Techno/House Bobbins of the past

Oh for fuck's sake, Can a moderator move this to ILM.

Excellent idea. Both ideas are excellent.

i've recently picked up some 12"s on the old forcetracks label. this one in particular is pretty good. any recommendations for other forcetracks stuff (besides luomo)?

I'm quite enjoying John Beltran lately, that very mid-90's Detroity ambient techno sound.

Also, Agaric - Virke (liebe Detail 10 from 2006) is killing me right now.

which John Beltran are you listening too? Placid Angles is awesome.

love 'Decembers Tragedy' by Beltran, mehlt's description being the reason

I think Decembers Tragedy was used in the HBO series Six Feet Under.. It was cool hearing as a soundtrack.

Dub Taylor had a couple good/great LP's + 12"s on Force Tracks.

also check the label Raum...Musik for other pre-bobbins sounds.

Beltran's Ten Days of Blue LP on Peacefrog is classic from the first sound to the last.

In terms of Force Tracks MRI's All That Glitters is one I come back to cos it's pure pop. "Tied to the 80's" is from a an 80's TV theme and the dub Aaliyah cover is soo cool.

Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.

I've been listening to the Beltran Stuff of Stryax Leaves, which is a really great label by the way, which are rereleases from older stuff. 'Anticipation' is wonderful, and "vienna" is beautiful little piece of classical string sampling.

Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.

jesus.

In my defense, I'm only 19.

All That Glitters, I still come back to that one too. Esp. side 1 and YEA the aaliyah tribute!

Speaking of Force, I want to rep for the Star You Star Me album (esp. "Perfect Day" and "Sweet Things", which are mighty swoonful).

Akufen tunes on force tracks are belters.

Akufen! That guy disappeared off the grid for the last couple years as far as releases have gone, right?

He's apparently putting out an album this year!

I don't know why, but I found the MRI album to be really irritating with a few exceptions. I still need to hear the Mathias Schaffhäuser and Crank AK stuff on FT.

In my defense, I'm only 19.

heh i wasn't zinging , you just made me feel old and useless. i have and love the 'all that glitters' double vinyl btw, esp the title track.

Tied To The 80s is a gorgeous track - I heard it via gareth via spencer chow but I'm not sure I heard any other MRI.

Crane A.K.'s Pink Eyed Pony seems fairly typical of the Force Tracks roster to me. Deep, dubby, bouncy, clicky. More minimal than Dub Taylor, a bit too polite?

a couple of v old classics i recently encountered:

Jesse Saunders - On And On
good electro-boogie/house crossover but you could make a good case for this as first house track ever maybe (released in 84 but maybe first recorded in 83)

Farley Jackmaster Funk - Jackin The Trax
to hear it you'd believe hercules & love affair have been basing much of their sound on this one track. great house with that macabre synth hook seemingly taking its cue from italo and electro from a few years earlier.

second one is m4a btw

i also put this on the prescription thread: http://www.sendspace.com/file/85v4yg

romanthony - the wanderer (journeyman thump)

I saw the Ladomat 100 compilation in a charity shop today, listening to it now the pre-Kompakt quirkyness seems so great. I think I should hunt down more of this stuff.

the only thing on Ladomat 2000 i've heard is this, which i like. what else is worth checking for?

this is all-time top 10 luv 4eva material: http://www.discogs.com/release/49178

This Ladomat 2000 is all-time top 10 too - http://www.discogs.com/release/17353

Bobbins galore: http://www.youtube.com/user/HouseMasterz

hardwax appears to have copies of moodymann's ultra-classic 'dem young sconies' 12". a repress, perhaps?? in any case, can't rate this one highly enough.

I would be real surprised if Dem Young Sconies was an OP. That record makes you wonder what would have happened if KDJ had decided to concentrate on techno. That record hasn't left my crate in years.

Model 500 'Starlight' is still a favorite of mine. Play doubles of that late at night. The recent Echospace/Deepchord remixes are alright, but the original holds up just fine. Others I still love, Ken Iishi 'Overlap (Mark Broom mix)', Joey Beltram 'Energy Flash', Burger/Ink 'Las Vegas', Axis' lp on Guidance, Moodyman 'Forevermore', Jay Dee 'Plastic Dreams' must still be making them money, i see new remixes of that every year. Then, play Irresistable Force's 'Flying High' over some djax to kick out the jams.

Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.

hardwax sold the sharevari repress, which was rumored to be a bootleg, so who knows?

i'm all for bootlegs of shit that never gets repressed, though (like sharevari).

True and the "Sharevari" boot just feels very different from a bootleg of an active label that has even been re-pressing some of it's "Classics." No judgement in these statements (I got both the "Sharevari" and "U Can Dance If U Want 2" bootlegs) just wondering.

i didn't know there was a bootleg of "u can dance"

totally awesome

but i'm still waiting for the "moody trax" boot

"Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.

-- matt2"

a bunch of DYS 12" appeared at the Planet E booth at DEMF 06 (i think it was) along with the original Designer Music 4 track EP. DYS was $5, DM was $15. i got em both as each was amongst my most wanted Planet E's.....

All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.

is this the right place to ask about forever sweet-- namely, is anything else they did as perfect as "bleed"? does other ladomat stuff sound similar?

"All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.

-- matt2"

it is a great vacation. i bring my wife and my younger sister with me every year. at least 20 of my friends go up every year from pittsburgh as well, not even counting all the people i know from around the world who show up. its as good of a time as you can have if you like dance music.

That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

My bf and I went for the first time last year and hope to make it a tradition. He is not into dance music/music in general as much as I am, but he's willing to indulge me and has family in Michigan so it works out. It is our one chance each year to hear this music in its "proper" setting (i.e. not between a pair of headphones or blasting from my car).

Yeah, I'm pretty much asked to keep the beats in my headphones.

I really, really want to go to DEMF again this year but it overlaps with a 2 week Germany trip. I guess that balances out.

Just got this one yesterday: http://www.discogs.com/release/4982

The locked groove on the A side is perfect. I let it play for 10 or 15 minutes yesterday.

"That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

-- matt2"

man, that sucks. get her some good drugs and take her there, maybe she'll have a religious experience and you can all live happily ever after ;)

on the other hand, you could just go by yourself! there are lots of friendly techno nerds there.....

got a few things today. soul center III which is pretty cool, very unique sounding.

also got this psi performer remixes and am just listening to it now. has anyone heard the album?

and should i go back to the shop and pick up Sten - Leaving The Frantic for $6?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=732Fg-uS2qE

charming escapade by Boris Tihomirov from 1985, a cup of coffee and a swim!

1997 Eredivisie winners and box to box ball winners Rufuss Ruffcut & Saw Tooth flooding the midfield with boisterous praxis in UEFA cup drama

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxqzWZ1HMyQ

Reissue for this Justin Berkovi 12 from 2000

https://soundcloud.com/dbh-music/predx002-justin-berkovi-the-storm-predicaments

Never knew about this 12! Other than that one track off. the Crouton EP that everyone likes I didn't know he'd done anything else good, but this is stellar gear

South African house - this gorgeous track is from 2015 (but I only recently discovered it). I know Afro House is a thing in the international dance scene, but I have no idea if this particular kind of stuff gets any traction outside of SA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmzwDrbyA-w

DJ Clizo • Moment of Silence

Orginal Nutter! - Oi! Nutter!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UxRiyJwSqo

can't argue with that, like

Dj Assault - Livin the Good Life, from 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfdpHobejbE

I'm not living the good life just yet as I'm stuck in a traffic jam inside the Asda, but those trolleys are bouncing like Wesleyans on Stapleton St

In the same afternoon, at separate shops, I consecutively bought two unrelated reissues of 90s Australian dance music with orange and black covers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZjmSjCEabA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP4NrQCHs-U

Weird, I discovered. Jandy's youtube channel the other.day, she's an interesting character!

Just discovered Ray Castoldi!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xC2TUxYkCo

According to discogs he is the music director and organist at Madison Square Garden, and has performed during New York Rangers and New York Knicks games since 1989. He also appears on something called Jock Jams, doing "The Chicken Dance"

this is some well dreamy Sunday music, all the tracks (92-94) were reissued in 2017

Nice ^ !

For some reason I never noticed this delight on the other side of the Freaky Chakra record

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVosmBAZKYw

Not as obvious as the famous a side but still no idea how I missed this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLuuT1mNbhc

love that, map.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN8BFMEfr4w

pitched down, but that's me.

love it

oh I love Joy, pitched up though, but that's very much in character for me

Been playing General Base records in Greggs again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3vZQxz_0OE

From a 90s label geographically and sonically close, but distinctly separate, from Plus8+

https://youtu.be/JNvsptyE-zk

Ugh, embed codes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNvsptyE-zk

Monday morning and time for some Genetic Waste mates

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OAVcQxdvDQ

personal dictator by arnaud rebotini is still a slapper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXVcP1lifwE

Hot stuff from the Svek boys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBPfTFpYkHM

That one kinda reminds me of this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=268&v=YU-PYKXncTs&app=desktop&persist_app=1

just pulled this one out from my stacks tonight, got it for a buck in the mid-aughts. still really great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jGXFSgi010

Miro - Paradise (Red Jerry's Longdubbyvocal Mix)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRxyMKwaLto
the good cheese

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuuOR-SO3fk

Jumping Back Slash • Ibhithi Nine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcy5z5XGe8s

Joey Musaphia from 1994, watch y'sen

Kollage on Subwoofer, damn this one got expensive. magic tho innit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFZK3NwMNBU

Skudge - Convolution

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na0r13LEOT0

I'm not especially drawn to their stuff in general but I'm feeling this b*nger at the moment.

Ha I was listening on YouTube and iTunes at the same time and thought that beat went all wonky at the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKWXkT6TlW8

Stallos, from 2008, on Australian label Kindred Sounds, all new to me

Nice to see that Guidance are putting out three compilations of Callisto (aka Dana Kelly) material. He produced some subterranean deep house records in the 90's. Sadly passed away in 2013.

https://bordelloaparigi.com/shop/upcoming/callisto-guidance-is-internal-part-1-2x12/

That’s fantastic news! I’ve almost considered paying the absurd prices his Nether World ep goes for, and have often hoped for a reissue - if only as a proper tribute.

Love the Callisto records but don't miss out on DKMA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjt9etdGOb4

This is my fav Dana record but of course there are so many

Repair, on Sub Static, from 2002. Textbook vibes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mshYxNN3eMQ

Present your arguments for or against why this should be inducted into the deep house canon:

Jellybean feat Steven Dante - The Real Thing (Fun "House" Dub)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDnv6e7NLd0

The bassline is so solid, and the vocals ooze power as well. There seems to be a lack of 808 though.

'Jellybean' is one of those producers who disappoints me overall because I found his strongest production early on then later realized there wasn't much else like it. With 'Jellybean' I'm talking of course about his work on Madonna's 'Holiday' but C&C Music Factory would be another good example, their only real masterpiece that I've found is that one Grace Jones garage remix.

Full artist name is John 'Jellybean' Benitez.

IMO this is the C & C music factory masterpiece

https://youtu.be/HtmioubRtlc

(It’s their mix of a deeper love cos my link didn’t auto embed)

Right, that's not bad. A little flimsy for my deep house preferences but it's not bad. I prefer that vocal to the Aretha remake. Here's the Grace Jones garage remix (apologies if I've posted it here before, I'm kind of partial to it):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQmhjklXgu4

Just the intro alone is worthy of a full DJ mix built around it.

Full-on garage house from '89 no less.

Love that thanks. Not heard it before.

progressive breaks TIP! via andrew morgan

https://youtu.be/_eK_76hhCT8

Only came across Tabu Ley this afternoon on the air balloon back from the football

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZSY7LcUyxI&feature=emb_title

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZSY7LcUyxI

lost sounds from Portland Oregon, 2000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_r2cn0y0d8

Big up shopping at the asda with dj assault, fruit and fibre for all shelf stackers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfdpHobejbE

Came across this in a mix, it rules

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN2NXRLGKMU

Also this came up on twitter yesterday, it rules

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxcz83OFB1g