Techno/House Bobbins of the past

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I felt ILM needed a place to freely discuss techno and house without limiting to just new releases. So it can date back to Edison's recitation of the alphabet for all I care, but if you hear a great record from 5 years ago and want to discuss, then heres a place for it.

Also, I personally feel really burned out after following as much new music as I have over however long, and need to cut down, take a break, or even stop, and start listening to music without the pressure of progress. Personally, I've been fairly nostalgic for a lot of early 00's microhouse, which my dance music self grew up on (no, I'm not very old), which probably just goes to show that I've become pretty jaded.

mehlt, Sunday, 2 March 2008 21:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

Oh for fuck's sake, Can a moderator move this to ILM.

mehlt, Sunday, 2 March 2008 17:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

Excellent idea. Both ideas are excellent.

Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 2 March 2008 20:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

i've recently picked up some 12"s on the old forcetracks label. this one in particular is pretty good. any recommendations for other forcetracks stuff (besides luomo)?

one time, Sunday, 2 March 2008 21:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm quite enjoying John Beltran lately, that very mid-90's Detroity ambient techno sound.

Also, Agaric - Virke (liebe Detail 10 from 2006) is killing me right now.

mehlt, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

which John Beltran are you listening too? Placid Angles is awesome.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:32 (nine years ago) Permalink

love 'Decembers Tragedy' by Beltran, mehlt's description being the reason

blueski, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think Decembers Tragedy was used in the HBO series Six Feet Under.. It was cool hearing as a soundtrack.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

Dub Taylor had a couple good/great LP's + 12"s on Force Tracks.

also check the label Raum...Musik for other pre-bobbins sounds.

Beltran's Ten Days of Blue LP on Peacefrog is classic from the first sound to the last.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

In terms of Force Tracks MRI's All That Glitters is one I come back to cos it's pure pop. "Tied to the 80's" is from a an 80's TV theme and the dub Aaliyah cover is soo cool.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 23:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.

I've been listening to the Beltran Stuff of Stryax Leaves, which is a really great label by the way, which are rereleases from older stuff. 'Anticipation' is wonderful, and "vienna" is beautiful little piece of classical string sampling.

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 00:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.

jesus.

or something, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 00:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

In my defense, I'm only 19.

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 01:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

All That Glitters, I still come back to that one too. Esp. side 1 and YEA the aaliyah tribute!

Speaking of Force, I want to rep for the Star You Star Me album (esp. "Perfect Day" and "Sweet Things", which are mighty swoonful).

winston, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 01:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

Akufen tunes on force tracks are belters.

straight, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 11:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

Akufen! That guy disappeared off the grid for the last couple years as far as releases have gone, right?

mh, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 13:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

He's apparently putting out an album this year!

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

I don't know why, but I found the MRI album to be really irritating with a few exceptions. I still need to hear the Mathias Schaffhäuser and Crank AK stuff on FT.

littlewhiteearbuds, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 15:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

In my defense, I'm only 19.

heh i wasn't zinging , you just made me feel old and useless. i have and love the 'all that glitters' double vinyl btw, esp the title track.

or something, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 17:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

Tied To The 80s is a gorgeous track - I heard it via gareth via spencer chow but I'm not sure I heard any other MRI.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 17:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

Crane A.K.'s Pink Eyed Pony seems fairly typical of the Force Tracks roster to me. Deep, dubby, bouncy, clicky. More minimal than Dub Taylor, a bit too polite?

mmmm, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 21:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

a couple of v old classics i recently encountered:

Jesse Saunders - On And On
good electro-boogie/house crossover but you could make a good case for this as first house track ever maybe (released in 84 but maybe first recorded in 83)

Farley Jackmaster Funk - Jackin The Trax
to hear it you'd believe hercules & love affair have been basing much of their sound on this one track. great house with that macabre synth hook seemingly taking its cue from italo and electro from a few years earlier.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 22:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

second one is m4a btw

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 22:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

i also put this on the prescription thread: http://www.sendspace.com/file/85v4yg

romanthony - the wanderer (journeyman thump)

elan, Thursday, 13 March 2008 00:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

I saw the Ladomat 100 compilation in a charity shop today, listening to it now the pre-Kompakt quirkyness seems so great. I think I should hunt down more of this stuff.

mmmm, Sunday, 16 March 2008 01:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

the only thing on Ladomat 2000 i've heard is this, which i like. what else is worth checking for?

one time, Sunday, 16 March 2008 02:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

this is all-time top 10 luv 4eva material: http://www.discogs.com/release/49178

r1o natsume, Sunday, 16 March 2008 19:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

This Ladomat 2000 is all-time top 10 too - http://www.discogs.com/release/17353

Kaliova, Sunday, 16 March 2008 19:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

Bobbins galore: http://www.youtube.com/user/HouseMasterz

Bodrick III, Sunday, 16 March 2008 22:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

hardwax appears to have copies of moodymann's ultra-classic 'dem young sconies' 12". a repress, perhaps?? in any case, can't rate this one highly enough.

haitch, Monday, 17 March 2008 01:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

I would be real surprised if Dem Young Sconies was an OP. That record makes you wonder what would have happened if KDJ had decided to concentrate on techno. That record hasn't left my crate in years.

Display Name, Monday, 17 March 2008 01:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

Model 500 'Starlight' is still a favorite of mine. Play doubles of that late at night. The recent Echospace/Deepchord remixes are alright, but the original holds up just fine. Others I still love, Ken Iishi 'Overlap (Mark Broom mix)', Joey Beltram 'Energy Flash', Burger/Ink 'Las Vegas', Axis' lp on Guidance, Moodyman 'Forevermore', Jay Dee 'Plastic Dreams' must still be making them money, i see new remixes of that every year. Then, play Irresistable Force's 'Flying High' over some djax to kick out the jams.

U-Haul, Monday, 17 March 2008 15:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.

matt2, Monday, 17 March 2008 17:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

hardwax sold the sharevari repress, which was rumored to be a bootleg, so who knows?

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 19:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

i'm all for bootlegs of shit that never gets repressed, though (like sharevari).

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 19:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

True and the "Sharevari" boot just feels very different from a bootleg of an active label that has even been re-pressing some of it's "Classics." No judgement in these statements (I got both the "Sharevari" and "U Can Dance If U Want 2" bootlegs) just wondering.

matt2, Monday, 17 March 2008 20:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

i didn't know there was a bootleg of "u can dance"

totally awesome

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 21:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

but i'm still waiting for the "moody trax" boot

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 21:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

"Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.

-- matt2"

a bunch of DYS 12" appeared at the Planet E booth at DEMF 06 (i think it was) along with the original Designer Music 4 track EP. DYS was $5, DM was $15. i got em both as each was amongst my most wanted Planet E's.....

pipecock, Monday, 17 March 2008 23:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 14:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

is this the right place to ask about forever sweet-- namely, is anything else they did as perfect as "bleed"? does other ladomat stuff sound similar?

W i l l, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 16:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

"All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.

-- matt2"

it is a great vacation. i bring my wife and my younger sister with me every year. at least 20 of my friends go up every year from pittsburgh as well, not even counting all the people i know from around the world who show up. its as good of a time as you can have if you like dance music.

pipecock, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 19:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:07 (nine years ago) Permalink

My bf and I went for the first time last year and hope to make it a tradition. He is not into dance music/music in general as much as I am, but he's willing to indulge me and has family in Michigan so it works out. It is our one chance each year to hear this music in its "proper" setting (i.e. not between a pair of headphones or blasting from my car).

lou, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm pretty much asked to keep the beats in my headphones.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

I really, really want to go to DEMF again this year but it overlaps with a 2 week Germany trip. I guess that balances out.

littlewhiteearbuds, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

Just got this one yesterday: http://www.discogs.com/release/4982

The locked groove on the A side is perfect. I let it play for 10 or 15 minutes yesterday.

matt2, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

"That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

-- matt2"

man, that sucks. get her some good drugs and take her there, maybe she'll have a religious experience and you can all live happily ever after ;)

on the other hand, you could just go by yourself! there are lots of friendly techno nerds there.....

pipecock, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 23:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

got a few things today. soul center III which is pretty cool, very unique sounding.

also got this psi performer remixes and am just listening to it now. has anyone heard the album?

one time, Friday, 21 March 2008 06:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

and should i go back to the shop and pick up Sten - Leaving The Frantic for $6?

one time, Friday, 21 March 2008 07:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

Mustafa - Circles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YthuuGO1dng

Great track, Big sam was one of the first to cane this back in the reebok days

saer, Friday, 3 November 2017 20:20 (two months ago) Permalink

Demarkus Lewis from 2004

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta0eQgU9VKM

He was really on form around that period but this is the one I always return to, still cheap on discogs too!

saer, Friday, 3 November 2017 23:13 (two months ago) Permalink

i’ve always been torn abt demarkus - like kerri or derrick he puts out a ton of stuff, some of it amazing, some of it too commercial for my taste

this is the one i keep coming back to

https://youtu.be/crOAcMAXPsg

the late great, Friday, 3 November 2017 23:21 (two months ago) Permalink

I figure with people like that when they put out a ton of stuff it doesn't really matter some of it isn't very good! I don't have to own or like all of their records.

Its like being a striker, if they have a bad game all is forgiven when they score a goal! I agree though he has a lot of bad records, but I don't mind as there are great ones in there too

saer, Friday, 3 November 2017 23:34 (two months ago) Permalink

This is reminding me of one of my favourite albums, I only like one track on it! in fact i think this is the only good track they ever did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6nSXqzogB4

Pitched up a little though!

saer, Friday, 3 November 2017 23:38 (two months ago) Permalink

I picked up a bunch of unpromising looking records from a friend earlier this year and didn't bother going through them other than cursory listen till just now and gave them away, and it turns out this was on one of them. I should know by now not to skip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqsesNDDntg

saer, Friday, 3 November 2017 23:46 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah that’s a good way to think abt it

the late great, Saturday, 4 November 2017 00:05 (two months ago) Permalink

The unpromising sounding Will Dobson, sounds like someone who plays for Lincoln City

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBefDZR60uM

saer, Saturday, 4 November 2017 06:41 (two months ago) Permalink

Wow, whoever thought this fellow would come out of hiding!! Colin McGraw, whoever that is

I don't have the money because ive bought too many records:(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_vN1YliJfU

saer, Saturday, 4 November 2017 12:11 (two months ago) Permalink

Techno and balearic mates! Any ideas what Onur is playing here. The party is 2014 but the record is obviously much older (I think!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvRuoDzZ3bg

saer, Saturday, 4 November 2017 12:49 (two months ago) Permalink

I think this one should be guessable, certainly the producer!

saer, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 14:12 (two months ago) Permalink

but in the meantime here is a mark archer record

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5skO1nhJxw

saer, Friday, 10 November 2017 22:04 (two months ago) Permalink

Mr trever t on firm handed, the other version of this is very expensive but prefer this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=164&v=V3Omqm563gM

saer, Friday, 17 November 2017 08:08 (two months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3Omqm563gM

saer, Friday, 17 November 2017 08:09 (two months ago) Permalink

and in a different mood and back into affordable territory, Peter F Speiss from 2002

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NXu5tdFbWk

Theres a really great Speiss track but it not on here and I can't seem to find it

saer, Friday, 17 November 2017 08:12 (two months ago) Permalink

Might be time to do a new mix!

saer, Friday, 17 November 2017 08:13 (two months ago) Permalink

I always loved Icarus Wings the best on that first Envoy album, but then I heard this in Seaworld last tuesday, its been bugging me all week what it is - and of course its something I already had any never played any of the other tracks off it, how could I have missed this dream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pswFhRAT5A

saer, Friday, 1 December 2017 00:36 (one month ago) Permalink

That is niiiiice.

DJI, Friday, 1 December 2017 00:59 (one month ago) Permalink

Ive been looking for this wonder for long amount of weeks and months and here it is and its John Tejada

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StG6gSxL-x0

Real music like they used to make in the war, puts vibes in your brain, a spring in your step, and a hole in your wallet

saer, Sunday, 3 December 2017 20:25 (one month ago) Permalink

this one is making the afternoon winter sun a little warmer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrfIF8SB5a8

the late great, Sunday, 3 December 2017 23:22 (one month ago) Permalink

Funny how those happy trax records have ended up being his most sought after stuff now!

saer, Monday, 4 December 2017 17:43 (one month ago) Permalink

"you must follow him to the end my friend you must follow him to the end my friend"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCMJDFFKmIc

Sure I've put this here multiple times but its such a staple yet always fresh. proper goose bumps an that la

saer, Monday, 4 December 2017 17:45 (one month ago) Permalink

ah no i memember now it was a vid of praslesh playing it in barcelona before i think

saer, Monday, 4 December 2017 17:46 (one month ago) Permalink

Funny how those happy trax records have ended up being his most sought after stuff now!

yes, see also the soul city label! though i imagine part of it is due to the fact that it was pressed in smaller quantities and unlike UR stuff never repressed ...

i love this mix so much

https://www.discogs.com/DJ-Rolando-Sweat-Volume-One/release/131961

the late great, Monday, 4 December 2017 19:17 (one month ago) Permalink

Not heard that mix, don't know all that many off it either I don't think, will investigate

saer, Monday, 4 December 2017 21:20 (one month ago) Permalink

I passed up on this a while ago, somehow missed out on realising this track is on it, its pretty expensive now, too late!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cof8CFfbTiY

saer, Monday, 4 December 2017 21:22 (one month ago) Permalink

Never heard this Kraftwerk track before, I like it a lot. Assumed anything they were doing this late in their career would be a bit thin but this is good!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p15PBeFyP-s

saer, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 23:09 (one month ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

so i first heard this track on this comp

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Nuphonic-02/release/129539

when it first came out (all of 18 years ago!)

and i promptly forgot about it until a few days ago when it popped up in itunes shuffle.

man, what a track! moves through broken beat and larry heard styles before settling on a crispy drum loop from which you can trace a neat line to today's lo-fi producers of note

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gkirn4k7E4

the late great, Monday, 25 December 2017 20:54 (three weeks ago) Permalink

marginally better encoding here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8wlb8ZpCjg

anyway worth your while to seek out a HQ copy

the late great, Monday, 25 December 2017 21:06 (three weeks ago) Permalink

wow and apparently there's a chaser remix!

https://www.discogs.com/Marcel-On-The-Beach/master/122809

the late great, Monday, 25 December 2017 21:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink

crispy drum loop basically Set it Off?

dan selzer, Thursday, 28 December 2017 21:35 (three weeks ago) Permalink

!!!

the late great, Thursday, 28 December 2017 22:49 (three weeks ago) Permalink

This is very good!

saer, Friday, 29 December 2017 10:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnTgTNRg0hg

flopson, Saturday, 30 December 2017 04:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink

https://clone.nl/item48241.html
Bought this yesterday, "Destiny" is a fantastic slice of machine funk

Having never heard of the good man, I'm currently listening to Moments in Dub, & wow...

willem, Sunday, 31 December 2017 10:08 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yes, moments in dub is incredible. one of mo’wax’s best moments.

the late great, Sunday, 31 December 2017 10:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink

that marcel track is great, thanks for posting.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 31 December 2017 10:49 (two weeks ago) Permalink

dreamy filter house, uk 1996, freaks + darren house..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixqR6euJ5NQ

brimstead, Friday, 5 January 2018 00:47 (one week ago) Permalink

oh damn, darren house also = yellow sox?? "flim flam" is hot!

brimstead, Friday, 5 January 2018 00:48 (one week ago) Permalink

the thing i posted is "road trip" by fifth edition

brimstead, Friday, 5 January 2018 00:49 (one week ago) Permalink

nuphonic threadmindmeld

brimstead, Friday, 5 January 2018 00:50 (one week ago) Permalink

i also have an mp3 of a dub mix of "road trip" that has a wicked "rude movements" type synth solo

brimstead, Friday, 5 January 2018 00:53 (one week ago) Permalink

yes i have waxed rhapsodic about "flim flam" on here many times

several years ago i posted that "flim flam" was perfect and eternal and better than any given maurizio or basic channel side (still stand by this) but i can't find it

:-(

the late great, Friday, 5 January 2018 02:10 (one week ago) Permalink

Hell yeah. The guitar riff in "film flam" is like a massive glittering comet or something... I've never heard anything like it... totally classic future disco

brimstead, Friday, 5 January 2018 23:28 (one week ago) Permalink

This is a trip:) A very expensive trip:(

Never come across the artist or label before. the hoodrats - whack messiah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SLiDGuKTDU

saer, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 21:30 (one week ago) Permalink

Other side is good too!

saer, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 21:36 (one week ago) Permalink

Came across this minimal acid gem from late-90s Playhouse for the first time via Nick Hoppner's latest mix for NTS.

https://www.discogs.com/Bodo-Elsel-Discount-Baby/release/62564

Federico Boswarlos, Monday, 15 January 2018 17:52 (three days ago) Permalink

He also played this deeeeeeeeep one.

https://youtu.be/ykOCriwIatc

Federico Boswarlos, Monday, 15 January 2018 18:25 (three days ago) Permalink

Oops, tried to embed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykOCriwIatc

Federico Boswarlos, Monday, 15 January 2018 18:26 (three days ago) Permalink

nice one

the late great, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:27 (two days ago) Permalink


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