Techno/House Bobbins of the past

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I felt ILM needed a place to freely discuss techno and house without limiting to just new releases. So it can date back to Edison's recitation of the alphabet for all I care, but if you hear a great record from 5 years ago and want to discuss, then heres a place for it.

Also, I personally feel really burned out after following as much new music as I have over however long, and need to cut down, take a break, or even stop, and start listening to music without the pressure of progress. Personally, I've been fairly nostalgic for a lot of early 00's microhouse, which my dance music self grew up on (no, I'm not very old), which probably just goes to show that I've become pretty jaded.

mehlt, Sunday, 2 March 2008 21:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

Oh for fuck's sake, Can a moderator move this to ILM.

mehlt, Sunday, 2 March 2008 17:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

Excellent idea. Both ideas are excellent.

Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 2 March 2008 20:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

i've recently picked up some 12"s on the old forcetracks label. this one in particular is pretty good. any recommendations for other forcetracks stuff (besides luomo)?

one time, Sunday, 2 March 2008 21:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm quite enjoying John Beltran lately, that very mid-90's Detroity ambient techno sound.

Also, Agaric - Virke (liebe Detail 10 from 2006) is killing me right now.

mehlt, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

which John Beltran are you listening too? Placid Angles is awesome.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:32 (nine years ago) Permalink

love 'Decembers Tragedy' by Beltran, mehlt's description being the reason

blueski, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think Decembers Tragedy was used in the HBO series Six Feet Under.. It was cool hearing as a soundtrack.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

Dub Taylor had a couple good/great LP's + 12"s on Force Tracks.

also check the label Raum...Musik for other pre-bobbins sounds.

Beltran's Ten Days of Blue LP on Peacefrog is classic from the first sound to the last.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

In terms of Force Tracks MRI's All That Glitters is one I come back to cos it's pure pop. "Tied to the 80's" is from a an 80's TV theme and the dub Aaliyah cover is soo cool.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 23:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.

I've been listening to the Beltran Stuff of Stryax Leaves, which is a really great label by the way, which are rereleases from older stuff. 'Anticipation' is wonderful, and "vienna" is beautiful little piece of classical string sampling.

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 00:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.

jesus.

or something, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 00:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

In my defense, I'm only 19.

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 01:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

All That Glitters, I still come back to that one too. Esp. side 1 and YEA the aaliyah tribute!

Speaking of Force, I want to rep for the Star You Star Me album (esp. "Perfect Day" and "Sweet Things", which are mighty swoonful).

winston, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 01:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

Akufen tunes on force tracks are belters.

straight, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 11:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

Akufen! That guy disappeared off the grid for the last couple years as far as releases have gone, right?

mh, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 13:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

He's apparently putting out an album this year!

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

I don't know why, but I found the MRI album to be really irritating with a few exceptions. I still need to hear the Mathias Schaffhäuser and Crank AK stuff on FT.

littlewhiteearbuds, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 15:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

In my defense, I'm only 19.

heh i wasn't zinging , you just made me feel old and useless. i have and love the 'all that glitters' double vinyl btw, esp the title track.

or something, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 17:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

Tied To The 80s is a gorgeous track - I heard it via gareth via spencer chow but I'm not sure I heard any other MRI.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 17:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

Crane A.K.'s Pink Eyed Pony seems fairly typical of the Force Tracks roster to me. Deep, dubby, bouncy, clicky. More minimal than Dub Taylor, a bit too polite?

mmmm, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 21:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

a couple of v old classics i recently encountered:

Jesse Saunders - On And On
good electro-boogie/house crossover but you could make a good case for this as first house track ever maybe (released in 84 but maybe first recorded in 83)

Farley Jackmaster Funk - Jackin The Trax
to hear it you'd believe hercules & love affair have been basing much of their sound on this one track. great house with that macabre synth hook seemingly taking its cue from italo and electro from a few years earlier.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 22:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

second one is m4a btw

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 22:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

i also put this on the prescription thread: http://www.sendspace.com/file/85v4yg

romanthony - the wanderer (journeyman thump)

elan, Thursday, 13 March 2008 00:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

I saw the Ladomat 100 compilation in a charity shop today, listening to it now the pre-Kompakt quirkyness seems so great. I think I should hunt down more of this stuff.

mmmm, Sunday, 16 March 2008 01:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

the only thing on Ladomat 2000 i've heard is this, which i like. what else is worth checking for?

one time, Sunday, 16 March 2008 02:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

this is all-time top 10 luv 4eva material: http://www.discogs.com/release/49178

r1o natsume, Sunday, 16 March 2008 19:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

This Ladomat 2000 is all-time top 10 too - http://www.discogs.com/release/17353

Kaliova, Sunday, 16 March 2008 19:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

Bobbins galore: http://www.youtube.com/user/HouseMasterz

Bodrick III, Sunday, 16 March 2008 22:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

hardwax appears to have copies of moodymann's ultra-classic 'dem young sconies' 12". a repress, perhaps?? in any case, can't rate this one highly enough.

haitch, Monday, 17 March 2008 01:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

I would be real surprised if Dem Young Sconies was an OP. That record makes you wonder what would have happened if KDJ had decided to concentrate on techno. That record hasn't left my crate in years.

Display Name, Monday, 17 March 2008 01:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

Model 500 'Starlight' is still a favorite of mine. Play doubles of that late at night. The recent Echospace/Deepchord remixes are alright, but the original holds up just fine. Others I still love, Ken Iishi 'Overlap (Mark Broom mix)', Joey Beltram 'Energy Flash', Burger/Ink 'Las Vegas', Axis' lp on Guidance, Moodyman 'Forevermore', Jay Dee 'Plastic Dreams' must still be making them money, i see new remixes of that every year. Then, play Irresistable Force's 'Flying High' over some djax to kick out the jams.

U-Haul, Monday, 17 March 2008 15:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.

matt2, Monday, 17 March 2008 17:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

hardwax sold the sharevari repress, which was rumored to be a bootleg, so who knows?

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 19:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

i'm all for bootlegs of shit that never gets repressed, though (like sharevari).

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 19:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

True and the "Sharevari" boot just feels very different from a bootleg of an active label that has even been re-pressing some of it's "Classics." No judgement in these statements (I got both the "Sharevari" and "U Can Dance If U Want 2" bootlegs) just wondering.

matt2, Monday, 17 March 2008 20:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

i didn't know there was a bootleg of "u can dance"

totally awesome

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 21:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

but i'm still waiting for the "moody trax" boot

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 21:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

"Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.

-- matt2"

a bunch of DYS 12" appeared at the Planet E booth at DEMF 06 (i think it was) along with the original Designer Music 4 track EP. DYS was $5, DM was $15. i got em both as each was amongst my most wanted Planet E's.....

pipecock, Monday, 17 March 2008 23:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 14:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

is this the right place to ask about forever sweet-- namely, is anything else they did as perfect as "bleed"? does other ladomat stuff sound similar?

W i l l, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 16:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

"All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.

-- matt2"

it is a great vacation. i bring my wife and my younger sister with me every year. at least 20 of my friends go up every year from pittsburgh as well, not even counting all the people i know from around the world who show up. its as good of a time as you can have if you like dance music.

pipecock, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 19:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:07 (nine years ago) Permalink

My bf and I went for the first time last year and hope to make it a tradition. He is not into dance music/music in general as much as I am, but he's willing to indulge me and has family in Michigan so it works out. It is our one chance each year to hear this music in its "proper" setting (i.e. not between a pair of headphones or blasting from my car).

lou, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm pretty much asked to keep the beats in my headphones.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

I really, really want to go to DEMF again this year but it overlaps with a 2 week Germany trip. I guess that balances out.

littlewhiteearbuds, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

Just got this one yesterday: http://www.discogs.com/release/4982

The locked groove on the A side is perfect. I let it play for 10 or 15 minutes yesterday.

matt2, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

"That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

-- matt2"

man, that sucks. get her some good drugs and take her there, maybe she'll have a religious experience and you can all live happily ever after ;)

on the other hand, you could just go by yourself! there are lots of friendly techno nerds there.....

pipecock, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 23:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

got a few things today. soul center III which is pretty cool, very unique sounding.

also got this psi performer remixes and am just listening to it now. has anyone heard the album?

one time, Friday, 21 March 2008 06:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

and should i go back to the shop and pick up Sten - Leaving The Frantic for $6?

one time, Friday, 21 March 2008 07:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

Underground Solution - Get Happy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmlgyW5uNRI

elan, Thursday, 13 July 2017 22:46 (one month ago) Permalink

Heard the mighty Gwenan playing this the other weekend. Blew my mind, partly because it's so great, and partly because I thought I'd "done my research" on Morgan Geist. Clearly not. Must try harder C-.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVoHjBHl6EA

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 13:43 (one month ago) Permalink

The same weekend I also heard Jane Fitz play this absolute pearl.

Mirror Muse (Internal Inspiration) by Pirahnahead. Not on YouTube, so a Spotify link will need to do.

https://open.spotify.com/track/1bH0emy1HzRmiH0hW0sTut

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 13:47 (one month ago) Permalink

5 go mad at Baskerville Hall?

saer, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:02 (one month ago) Permalink

You got it!

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:57 (one month ago) Permalink

Who else did you hear play there?

saer, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 16:30 (one month ago) Permalink

Highlights for me apart from Gwenan and Jane Fitz were Hieroglyphic Being, Rick Nicholls, Patrice Scott, Leah Floyeurs and DJ Bus Replacement Service.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 20:45 (one month ago) Permalink

as good a place as any to put this friendly number

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEco6nwbum0

saer, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:12 (one month ago) Permalink

lovely one this. no its not *that* DFA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb1IjZhA8hU

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Saturday, 22 July 2017 10:20 (one month ago) Permalink

Great record, when I bought that I bought it from him directly and he mailed me 4 copies. I mentioned this to someone I knew, and the same thing happened to them too. He must have been sat on a garage full of them

saer, Saturday, 22 July 2017 11:29 (one month ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q34uOwfjT8

Someone put this on a cassette mix once for me and it blew my mind.

yesca, Saturday, 22 July 2017 11:35 (one month ago) Permalink

cheese & pickle from kalini bob!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoT8eMfuO-g

saer, Sunday, 23 July 2017 16:58 (one month ago) Permalink

That DFA sounds like Jean-Luc Ponty - Computer Incantations for World Peace:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9niluBPIro

elan, Sunday, 23 July 2017 18:03 (one month ago) Permalink

lovely one this. no its not *that* DFA

― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B)

have to ask - is *that* dfa the italian area knockoff from the '90s? cause that's the one i think of.

was listening to satoshi ikeda's 1992 album "a love supreme" and was surprised when track 7, "fall", turned out to be a 12 minute house number. i haven't heard a lot of what happened with city pop in the '90s and i hadn't heard it going blatantly house before. it's definitely crossover stuff, likely nothing that would impress a purist, but i liked it a lot.

The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Monday, 24 July 2017 01:22 (one month ago) Permalink

no its a guy from Detroit, that one is from 2001 but theres a couple of other releases since

saer, Monday, 24 July 2017 02:56 (one month ago) Permalink

One of the first releases on Cocoon (2003) - lots of nice stuff on this album!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvvYp-86Ft8

saer, Thursday, 27 July 2017 09:54 (four weeks ago) Permalink

from bondzio to ho, this one is a bit of a surprise, its great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwmsY3UT0TU

saer, Sunday, 30 July 2017 08:54 (three weeks ago) Permalink

There's another good version of that too. I think i had made the mistake of writing him off for some reason. Never write anyone off, even Andy Carroll you just never know

saer, Sunday, 30 July 2017 09:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

"you must follow to the end my friend, you must follow"

https://www.facebook.com/playedbyclub/videos/929198063895266/

what do you reckon, Chris Gray?

saer, Monday, 31 July 2017 16:35 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Or is it something more well known? It feels so familiar but maybe its because its just that good!

saer, Monday, 31 July 2017 17:31 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Look at this, its like on of those mini ginsters but when you open it up there is a little bit of the sun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL0P-ko8FTo

saer, Thursday, 3 August 2017 15:41 (three weeks ago) Permalink

getting lost in this nexus-21/altern-8 of paris grey (from 1990 bio rhythm comp on network)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrYQZUjLs3w

brimstead, Friday, 4 August 2017 00:48 (two weeks ago) Permalink

missing the work remix

brimstead, Friday, 4 August 2017 00:49 (two weeks ago) Permalink

new friend i've been mixing with turned me on to this one, stuck in my head all day now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z02huaBd-SY

the late great, Friday, 4 August 2017 00:53 (two weeks ago) Permalink

nice one brimstead, haven't listened to those bio rhythm comps for a while ...

the late great, Friday, 4 August 2017 00:55 (two weeks ago) Permalink

"you must follow to the end my friend, you must follow"

https://www.facebook.com/playedbyclub/videos/929198063895266/

what do you reckon, Chris Gray?

― saer, Monday, 31 July 2017 16:35 (four days ago) Permalink

it was!

https://www.discogs.com/Utterance-Grant-Me-Utterance/master/841792

saer, Friday, 4 August 2017 08:33 (two weeks ago) Permalink

8 For Sale from £49.49

saer, Friday, 4 August 2017 08:34 (two weeks ago) Permalink

re: DFA & Jean Luc Ponty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hamT4XESYG0

Basement Boys Prod.

KitevsPill, Friday, 4 August 2017 11:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink

another track from the Praslesh set

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl0pkm76s-8

damn, this is familiar!

saer, Friday, 4 August 2017 14:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Liaisons Dangereuses with the jackin style

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzAOlaITnWk

saer, Saturday, 12 August 2017 10:05 (one week ago) Permalink

I swear they play this in B&Q all the time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3LWMnp0Ocs

saer, Sunday, 13 August 2017 09:37 (one week ago) Permalink

I walk past B&Q on the way home and I can just about make it out thats how I know. I don't have a thing for shelving or drills

saer, Sunday, 13 August 2017 09:39 (one week ago) Permalink

there's always time for Liaisons Dangereuses

this is my sunday morning soundtrack for arguing w nazis on facebook

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUivaNwz9XM

the late great, Sunday, 13 August 2017 18:12 (one week ago) Permalink

that's a yello sample, right?

didn't carl craig do a liaisons dangereuses edit too? which pcp track is that?

the late great, Sunday, 13 August 2017 18:15 (one week ago) Permalink

didn't carl craig do a liaisons dangereuses edit too?

Galaxy, good spot! I hadn't realized (had to google)

saer, Sunday, 13 August 2017 18:23 (one week ago) Permalink

the Praslesh track ALMOST came to me and then it left again. That feeling when you're sort of in the right area but then its back to well it could be anything

saer, Sunday, 13 August 2017 18:27 (one week ago) Permalink

oh yeah not a pcp track. that's why i couldn't find it!

the late great, Sunday, 13 August 2017 18:30 (one week ago) Permalink

genial times at spaced - another obvious one thats i cant recall right now! Thats the break 4 love...break...I think?

https://www.facebook.com/spacedlondon/videos/343621986066663/

saer, Sunday, 13 August 2017 18:51 (one week ago) Permalink

wow that party looks fun!!

the late great, Sunday, 13 August 2017 18:53 (one week ago) Permalink

why am i arguing w nazis on the internet instead of being at a party like that

need to reevaluate my life choices

the late great, Sunday, 13 August 2017 18:54 (one week ago) Permalink

Spaced is genuinely brilliant, relatively infrequent so it keeps a fresh feeling. I miss it!

good mixes too

https://soundcloud.com/spacedlondon

saer, Sunday, 13 August 2017 19:06 (one week ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fz0osjUR0c

sat in a deckchair by the canal and what should waft across the astral plane but this friendly gift to serenity. good day to you friendly record whatever your name is

saer, Monday, 14 August 2017 14:26 (one week ago) Permalink

Ahh, I got that metamatics record upthread for a dollar nearly 10 years ago and never had the ill-sense to sell it : D

I made note of this the last time I went out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcu4jBi6dV8

ed.b, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:36 (one week ago) Permalink

clear records stuff still sounds amazing! though like a lot of 90s stuff some of it is too speedy to work with modern stuff

you can still get it for cheap too

the late great, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:44 (one week ago) Permalink

Great record, love Pure Science particularly this period. Theres a real breezyness to his records. Who played that or where?

saer, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 05:24 (one week ago) Permalink

drive safely acid rozzers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8TTL8e_YjM

saer, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 11:19 (one week ago) Permalink

Xpost: I can't remember if it was Powder or the DJ opening for her that played but.. I'm pretty sure it was Powder, actually.

ed.b, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 18:50 (one week ago) Permalink

Thanks, i never heard of Powder before!

saer, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 19:06 (one week ago) Permalink

drive safely american rozzers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoLedJAXFqQ

saer, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 13:18 (one week ago) Permalink

sail safely captain!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly-iK4yuA1g

saer, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 05:39 (two days ago) Permalink


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