Techno/House Bobbins of the past

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I felt ILM needed a place to freely discuss techno and house without limiting to just new releases. So it can date back to Edison's recitation of the alphabet for all I care, but if you hear a great record from 5 years ago and want to discuss, then heres a place for it.

Also, I personally feel really burned out after following as much new music as I have over however long, and need to cut down, take a break, or even stop, and start listening to music without the pressure of progress. Personally, I've been fairly nostalgic for a lot of early 00's microhouse, which my dance music self grew up on (no, I'm not very old), which probably just goes to show that I've become pretty jaded.

mehlt, Sunday, 2 March 2008 21:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh for fuck's sake, Can a moderator move this to ILM.

mehlt, Sunday, 2 March 2008 17:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

Excellent idea. Both ideas are excellent.

Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 2 March 2008 20:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

i've recently picked up some 12"s on the old forcetracks label. this one in particular is pretty good. any recommendations for other forcetracks stuff (besides luomo)?

one time, Sunday, 2 March 2008 21:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm quite enjoying John Beltran lately, that very mid-90's Detroity ambient techno sound.

Also, Agaric - Virke (liebe Detail 10 from 2006) is killing me right now.

mehlt, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

which John Beltran are you listening too? Placid Angles is awesome.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

love 'Decembers Tragedy' by Beltran, mehlt's description being the reason

blueski, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

I think Decembers Tragedy was used in the HBO series Six Feet Under.. It was cool hearing as a soundtrack.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dub Taylor had a couple good/great LP's + 12"s on Force Tracks.

also check the label Raum...Musik for other pre-bobbins sounds.

Beltran's Ten Days of Blue LP on Peacefrog is classic from the first sound to the last.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

In terms of Force Tracks MRI's All That Glitters is one I come back to cos it's pure pop. "Tied to the 80's" is from a an 80's TV theme and the dub Aaliyah cover is soo cool.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 23:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.

I've been listening to the Beltran Stuff of Stryax Leaves, which is a really great label by the way, which are rereleases from older stuff. 'Anticipation' is wonderful, and "vienna" is beautiful little piece of classical string sampling.

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 00:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.

jesus.

or something, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 00:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

In my defense, I'm only 19.

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 01:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

All That Glitters, I still come back to that one too. Esp. side 1 and YEA the aaliyah tribute!

Speaking of Force, I want to rep for the Star You Star Me album (esp. "Perfect Day" and "Sweet Things", which are mighty swoonful).

winston, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 01:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

Akufen tunes on force tracks are belters.

straight, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 11:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

Akufen! That guy disappeared off the grid for the last couple years as far as releases have gone, right?

mh, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 13:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

He's apparently putting out an album this year!

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

I don't know why, but I found the MRI album to be really irritating with a few exceptions. I still need to hear the Mathias Schaffhäuser and Crank AK stuff on FT.

littlewhiteearbuds, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 15:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

In my defense, I'm only 19.

heh i wasn't zinging , you just made me feel old and useless. i have and love the 'all that glitters' double vinyl btw, esp the title track.

or something, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 17:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

Tied To The 80s is a gorgeous track - I heard it via gareth via spencer chow but I'm not sure I heard any other MRI.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 17:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

Crane A.K.'s Pink Eyed Pony seems fairly typical of the Force Tracks roster to me. Deep, dubby, bouncy, clicky. More minimal than Dub Taylor, a bit too polite?

mmmm, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 21:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

a couple of v old classics i recently encountered:

Jesse Saunders - On And On
good electro-boogie/house crossover but you could make a good case for this as first house track ever maybe (released in 84 but maybe first recorded in 83)

Farley Jackmaster Funk - Jackin The Trax
to hear it you'd believe hercules & love affair have been basing much of their sound on this one track. great house with that macabre synth hook seemingly taking its cue from italo and electro from a few years earlier.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 22:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

second one is m4a btw

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 22:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

i also put this on the prescription thread: http://www.sendspace.com/file/85v4yg

romanthony - the wanderer (journeyman thump)

elan, Thursday, 13 March 2008 00:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

I saw the Ladomat 100 compilation in a charity shop today, listening to it now the pre-Kompakt quirkyness seems so great. I think I should hunt down more of this stuff.

mmmm, Sunday, 16 March 2008 01:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

the only thing on Ladomat 2000 i've heard is this, which i like. what else is worth checking for?

one time, Sunday, 16 March 2008 02:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

this is all-time top 10 luv 4eva material: http://www.discogs.com/release/49178

r1o natsume, Sunday, 16 March 2008 19:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

This Ladomat 2000 is all-time top 10 too - http://www.discogs.com/release/17353

Kaliova, Sunday, 16 March 2008 19:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

Bobbins galore: http://www.youtube.com/user/HouseMasterz

Bodrick III, Sunday, 16 March 2008 22:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

hardwax appears to have copies of moodymann's ultra-classic 'dem young sconies' 12". a repress, perhaps?? in any case, can't rate this one highly enough.

haitch, Monday, 17 March 2008 01:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

I would be real surprised if Dem Young Sconies was an OP. That record makes you wonder what would have happened if KDJ had decided to concentrate on techno. That record hasn't left my crate in years.

Display Name, Monday, 17 March 2008 01:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

Model 500 'Starlight' is still a favorite of mine. Play doubles of that late at night. The recent Echospace/Deepchord remixes are alright, but the original holds up just fine. Others I still love, Ken Iishi 'Overlap (Mark Broom mix)', Joey Beltram 'Energy Flash', Burger/Ink 'Las Vegas', Axis' lp on Guidance, Moodyman 'Forevermore', Jay Dee 'Plastic Dreams' must still be making them money, i see new remixes of that every year. Then, play Irresistable Force's 'Flying High' over some djax to kick out the jams.

U-Haul, Monday, 17 March 2008 15:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.

matt2, Monday, 17 March 2008 17:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

hardwax sold the sharevari repress, which was rumored to be a bootleg, so who knows?

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 19:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

i'm all for bootlegs of shit that never gets repressed, though (like sharevari).

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 19:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

True and the "Sharevari" boot just feels very different from a bootleg of an active label that has even been re-pressing some of it's "Classics." No judgement in these statements (I got both the "Sharevari" and "U Can Dance If U Want 2" bootlegs) just wondering.

matt2, Monday, 17 March 2008 20:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

i didn't know there was a bootleg of "u can dance"

totally awesome

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 21:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

but i'm still waiting for the "moody trax" boot

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 21:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.

-- matt2"

a bunch of DYS 12" appeared at the Planet E booth at DEMF 06 (i think it was) along with the original Designer Music 4 track EP. DYS was $5, DM was $15. i got em both as each was amongst my most wanted Planet E's.....

pipecock, Monday, 17 March 2008 23:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 14:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

is this the right place to ask about forever sweet-- namely, is anything else they did as perfect as "bleed"? does other ladomat stuff sound similar?

W i l l, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 16:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

"All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.

-- matt2"

it is a great vacation. i bring my wife and my younger sister with me every year. at least 20 of my friends go up every year from pittsburgh as well, not even counting all the people i know from around the world who show up. its as good of a time as you can have if you like dance music.

pipecock, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 19:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

My bf and I went for the first time last year and hope to make it a tradition. He is not into dance music/music in general as much as I am, but he's willing to indulge me and has family in Michigan so it works out. It is our one chance each year to hear this music in its "proper" setting (i.e. not between a pair of headphones or blasting from my car).

lou, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm pretty much asked to keep the beats in my headphones.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

I really, really want to go to DEMF again this year but it overlaps with a 2 week Germany trip. I guess that balances out.

littlewhiteearbuds, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

Just got this one yesterday: http://www.discogs.com/release/4982

The locked groove on the A side is perfect. I let it play for 10 or 15 minutes yesterday.

matt2, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

"That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

-- matt2"

man, that sucks. get her some good drugs and take her there, maybe she'll have a religious experience and you can all live happily ever after ;)

on the other hand, you could just go by yourself! there are lots of friendly techno nerds there.....

pipecock, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 23:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

got a few things today. soul center III which is pretty cool, very unique sounding.

also got this psi performer remixes and am just listening to it now. has anyone heard the album?

one time, Friday, 21 March 2008 06:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

and should i go back to the shop and pick up Sten - Leaving The Frantic for $6?

one time, Friday, 21 March 2008 07:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah that's a good one! and reissued!

i should check out the one that got reissued on workshop ...

the late great, Friday, 16 February 2018 22:34 (seven months ago) Permalink

do you mean Playtime? That's a very good album. the Move D + Benjamin Brunn album from the year before, songs from the beehive is also splendid.

brimstead, Friday, 16 February 2018 23:51 (seven months ago) Permalink

the pelantys mix has been lost to time but this survives

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZUIwgX9uI4

saer, Saturday, 17 February 2018 10:33 (seven months ago) Permalink

^^^ i would try running that in a set, it's funky!

also that Ben Brunn & Move D record is one of my all time favorites xp

davey, Sunday, 18 February 2018 12:54 (seven months ago) Permalink

it's probably too obvious for this thread and still kind of recent, but this tune that got the place dripping last night: https://soundcloud.com/futureboogie/its-you-ron-basejam-remix

davey, Sunday, 18 February 2018 12:55 (seven months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkBoZdlKN28

Federico Boswarlos, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 15:51 (seven months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

big dogs resting before bank holiday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLGQwK6hOEk

saer, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 18:02 (six months ago) Permalink

big dogs on bank holiday, put your hats on!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lulHoe_Om4c

saer, Thursday, 29 March 2018 18:56 (five months ago) Permalink

this one just got the reissue

juan at his most italo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xNJrc_w8i8

the late great, Friday, 30 March 2018 04:28 (five months ago) Permalink

With that bass riff, it could pass for a 1983 Arthur Baker/New Order track.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 30 March 2018 05:36 (five months ago) Permalink

Deckchair on the seabed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2aAcagx34A

saer, Sunday, 1 April 2018 17:27 (five months ago) Permalink

like the ghost of charnock richard past, this one was hiding away in plain sight!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqUEHaDPLWk

saer, Monday, 9 April 2018 20:09 (five months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

I didn't know this Cajmere one before!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJiGuoyrAQY

it might be my favourite Cajmere now

saer, Friday, 27 April 2018 11:04 (four months ago) Permalink

(if Dream States didn't exist that is

saer, Friday, 27 April 2018 11:05 (four months ago) Permalink

that is hot

i do love derrick carter's remix of "only 4 u"

brimstead, Friday, 27 April 2018 15:50 (four months ago) Permalink

When he's in the zone Fred P is a Riquelme of vibey music - missed this one before, clockwork bank holiday mates

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdu1PdrUcIs

saer, Monday, 30 April 2018 15:24 (four months ago) Permalink

Those last 2 for me as well - at least until today! Heard it in a mix and thoughtt it had to be Fred P, (not the worlds most exhausting detective work), found it pretty quick!

saer, Monday, 30 April 2018 16:54 (four months ago) Permalink

his fp-oner discs on Mule have some great stuff

brimstead, Monday, 30 April 2018 17:12 (four months ago) Permalink

Other side of this is one my all time favourites, and ludicrously expensive these days. So much so I couldn't remember any about any of the other tracks, and this has been there the whole time, up to no good I imagine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg6Zov6YLes

saer, Monday, 30 April 2018 17:30 (four months ago) Permalink

i love saying "borft borft borft"

reminds me of swedish chef

the late great, Monday, 30 April 2018 17:31 (four months ago) Permalink

i bought dis NM- for $5 dis weekend

http://www.discogs.com/Various-House-Hallucinates-Pump-Up-London-Volume-One/master/7922

it has some mixes and tracks i never heard before

particularly good one is sleezy d lost control

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHNJ-fKNDGw

and i was much impressed w this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeDTR006DKI

and now i finally have a good pressing of acid tracks :)

the late great, Monday, 30 April 2018 17:39 (four months ago) Permalink

these are probably old hat to you all

but there are so many trax tracks

i lose trax of them all

the late great, Monday, 30 April 2018 17:41 (four months ago) Permalink

I'm pretty bad with names, can never remember what things are, but I hadnt heard the William S track on that before, it sounds like crime ridden streets I like it!

saer, Monday, 30 April 2018 17:52 (four months ago) Permalink

I had that House Hallucinates CD, one of my first techno CDs I think. I remember feeling like the stuff on that comp was way weirder and more psychedelic than most "acid" from that era. Maybe the title influenced me.

dan selzer, Thursday, 3 May 2018 02:57 (four months ago) Permalink

This is definitely familiar and so good!

two different clips of it from same event, played by Alexandra - I presume its a bobbins of the past, going on the sound!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7b6fd3iQsk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVsHycGB7qQ

saer, Thursday, 3 May 2018 04:34 (four months ago) Permalink

Sounds great. What is it though?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 3 May 2018 05:27 (four months ago) Permalink

I dont know!

But Ive definitely heard it before, it feels like something well known, but that doesn't mean it is

saer, Thursday, 3 May 2018 05:32 (four months ago) Permalink

synth lead sounds a bit like drexciya but i'm sure it's not them

the late great, Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:34 (four months ago) Permalink

too proggy

the late great, Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:35 (four months ago) Permalink

I'm horrible at guessing things but it sounds like its from UK

saer, Thursday, 3 May 2018 17:47 (four months ago) Permalink

and the Arpiar lads with something else familiar sounding!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0m7He4ovXs

saer, Thursday, 3 May 2018 17:48 (four months ago) Permalink

The vocal on this seems a bit of an afterthought, but great record nonetheless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6dJklWE934

saer, Saturday, 5 May 2018 02:42 (four months ago) Permalink

and another one from Constanta!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz_BeKd8ins

Love this first track!! In a way, it almost feels like it could be Chris Gray!

saer, Saturday, 5 May 2018 03:21 (four months ago) Permalink

rip autechre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pSJmnxCdjo

the late great, Saturday, 5 May 2018 05:38 (four months ago) Permalink

Sounds great. What is it though?

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, May 3, 2018 6:27 AM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was wrong, its not a UK record - its Norwegian, and also a recent release (2017), by EOD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yMR6lDabxE

saer, Sunday, 6 May 2018 08:21 (four months ago) Permalink

Alright, so thats the Alexandra track, I'll get on to the lads in local government and see if we can get some names for the Arpiar and Sedee tracks

saer, Sunday, 6 May 2018 08:24 (four months ago) Permalink

The lads at the council wouldn't release any information, but one of them sold me this for a fiver, cheers mate!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9TQpkQdRm8

saer, Friday, 11 May 2018 19:47 (four months ago) Permalink

I asked around some more about the Sedee and Arpiar tracks, but the only answer I got back was "am no a grass, pal'

got any m-dubs mate yes right here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMB5ppxStRA

saer, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 19:53 (four months ago) Permalink

DJ Sakin - Protect Your Mind (Van Bellen Mix)
https://ruclip.com/video/3ibHNUtKnXc/dj-sakin-protect-your-mind-van-bellen-mix.html

helping me outpace the depression tonight

davey, Thursday, 24 May 2018 06:11 (three months ago) Permalink

wait, fuck that last link. this is the one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ibHNUtKnXc

davey, Thursday, 24 May 2018 06:12 (three months ago) Permalink

that M Dubs is classic, love the Sugar Shack mix of it too

boxedjoy, Thursday, 24 May 2018 12:02 (three months ago) Permalink

Whenever I hear this I can never remember what it is! good lad tezza

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXK0ItV-jwU

saer, Monday, 4 June 2018 05:30 (three months ago) Permalink

I wandered into St. Kentigerns in Rhyl and saw a record by someone called Ricky the Dragon. I'll have some of that I said, and slapped a pound coin down just in front of the till, and the next thing I knew, the deal was done

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILJkjBqiUHI

saer, Thursday, 7 June 2018 16:40 (three months ago) Permalink

first one in the Sedee is a federico molinari track but theres also something else mixing out, so thats only the half of it

saer, Thursday, 7 June 2018 16:43 (three months ago) Permalink

Iteration X on Evasive, from 2003. Artist and label both new to me, these Rhyl chazza shops coming up top trumps for the early morning diggers, onto cash converters next before the easyjet stick it on the map

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRqwXmuNAl4

saer, Friday, 8 June 2018 10:50 (three months ago) Permalink

Coco Da Silva

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNxoxlyk564

and its on discogs for less than a price of a sausage roll from Greggs

saer, Saturday, 9 June 2018 04:48 (three months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0SlwwaZu2s

recently reissued on Mysticisms

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 21:03 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Love me some sentimental space techno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dcl8vcir-Y

ed.b, Friday, 17 August 2018 13:42 (one month ago) Permalink


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