Techno/House Bobbins of the past

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I felt ILM needed a place to freely discuss techno and house without limiting to just new releases. So it can date back to Edison's recitation of the alphabet for all I care, but if you hear a great record from 5 years ago and want to discuss, then heres a place for it.

Also, I personally feel really burned out after following as much new music as I have over however long, and need to cut down, take a break, or even stop, and start listening to music without the pressure of progress. Personally, I've been fairly nostalgic for a lot of early 00's microhouse, which my dance music self grew up on (no, I'm not very old), which probably just goes to show that I've become pretty jaded.

mehlt, Sunday, 2 March 2008 21:46 (twelve years ago) link

Oh for fuck's sake, Can a moderator move this to ILM.

mehlt, Sunday, 2 March 2008 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

Excellent idea. Both ideas are excellent.

Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 2 March 2008 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

i've recently picked up some 12"s on the old forcetracks label. this one in particular is pretty good. any recommendations for other forcetracks stuff (besides luomo)?

one time, Sunday, 2 March 2008 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

I'm quite enjoying John Beltran lately, that very mid-90's Detroity ambient techno sound.

Also, Agaric - Virke (liebe Detail 10 from 2006) is killing me right now.

mehlt, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:29 (twelve years ago) link

which John Beltran are you listening too? Placid Angles is awesome.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:32 (twelve years ago) link

love 'Decembers Tragedy' by Beltran, mehlt's description being the reason

blueski, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

I think Decembers Tragedy was used in the HBO series Six Feet Under.. It was cool hearing as a soundtrack.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

Dub Taylor had a couple good/great LP's + 12"s on Force Tracks.

also check the label Raum...Musik for other pre-bobbins sounds.

Beltran's Ten Days of Blue LP on Peacefrog is classic from the first sound to the last.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:53 (twelve years ago) link

In terms of Force Tracks MRI's All That Glitters is one I come back to cos it's pure pop. "Tied to the 80's" is from a an 80's TV theme and the dub Aaliyah cover is soo cool.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 23:08 (twelve years ago) link

Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.

I've been listening to the Beltran Stuff of Stryax Leaves, which is a really great label by the way, which are rereleases from older stuff. 'Anticipation' is wonderful, and "vienna" is beautiful little piece of classical string sampling.

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 00:43 (twelve years ago) link

Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.

jesus.

or something, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 00:45 (twelve years ago) link

In my defense, I'm only 19.

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 01:13 (twelve years ago) link

All That Glitters, I still come back to that one too. Esp. side 1 and YEA the aaliyah tribute!

Speaking of Force, I want to rep for the Star You Star Me album (esp. "Perfect Day" and "Sweet Things", which are mighty swoonful).

winston, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 01:29 (twelve years ago) link

Akufen tunes on force tracks are belters.

straight, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 11:21 (twelve years ago) link

Akufen! That guy disappeared off the grid for the last couple years as far as releases have gone, right?

mh, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 13:43 (twelve years ago) link

He's apparently putting out an album this year!

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:22 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know why, but I found the MRI album to be really irritating with a few exceptions. I still need to hear the Mathias Schaffhäuser and Crank AK stuff on FT.

littlewhiteearbuds, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

In my defense, I'm only 19.

heh i wasn't zinging , you just made me feel old and useless. i have and love the 'all that glitters' double vinyl btw, esp the title track.

or something, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

Tied To The 80s is a gorgeous track - I heard it via gareth via spencer chow but I'm not sure I heard any other MRI.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

Crane A.K.'s Pink Eyed Pony seems fairly typical of the Force Tracks roster to me. Deep, dubby, bouncy, clicky. More minimal than Dub Taylor, a bit too polite?

mmmm, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

a couple of v old classics i recently encountered:

Jesse Saunders - On And On
good electro-boogie/house crossover but you could make a good case for this as first house track ever maybe (released in 84 but maybe first recorded in 83)

Farley Jackmaster Funk - Jackin The Trax
to hear it you'd believe hercules & love affair have been basing much of their sound on this one track. great house with that macabre synth hook seemingly taking its cue from italo and electro from a few years earlier.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 22:40 (twelve years ago) link

second one is m4a btw

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 22:45 (twelve years ago) link

i also put this on the prescription thread: http://www.sendspace.com/file/85v4yg

romanthony - the wanderer (journeyman thump)

elan, Thursday, 13 March 2008 00:25 (twelve years ago) link

I saw the Ladomat 100 compilation in a charity shop today, listening to it now the pre-Kompakt quirkyness seems so great. I think I should hunt down more of this stuff.

mmmm, Sunday, 16 March 2008 01:05 (twelve years ago) link

the only thing on Ladomat 2000 i've heard is this, which i like. what else is worth checking for?

one time, Sunday, 16 March 2008 02:47 (twelve years ago) link

this is all-time top 10 luv 4eva material: http://www.discogs.com/release/49178

r1o natsume, Sunday, 16 March 2008 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

This Ladomat 2000 is all-time top 10 too - http://www.discogs.com/release/17353

Kaliova, Sunday, 16 March 2008 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

Bobbins galore: http://www.youtube.com/user/HouseMasterz

Bodrick III, Sunday, 16 March 2008 22:56 (twelve years ago) link

hardwax appears to have copies of moodymann's ultra-classic 'dem young sconies' 12". a repress, perhaps?? in any case, can't rate this one highly enough.

haitch, Monday, 17 March 2008 01:19 (twelve years ago) link

I would be real surprised if Dem Young Sconies was an OP. That record makes you wonder what would have happened if KDJ had decided to concentrate on techno. That record hasn't left my crate in years.

Display Name, Monday, 17 March 2008 01:25 (twelve years ago) link

Model 500 'Starlight' is still a favorite of mine. Play doubles of that late at night. The recent Echospace/Deepchord remixes are alright, but the original holds up just fine. Others I still love, Ken Iishi 'Overlap (Mark Broom mix)', Joey Beltram 'Energy Flash', Burger/Ink 'Las Vegas', Axis' lp on Guidance, Moodyman 'Forevermore', Jay Dee 'Plastic Dreams' must still be making them money, i see new remixes of that every year. Then, play Irresistable Force's 'Flying High' over some djax to kick out the jams.

U-Haul, Monday, 17 March 2008 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.

matt2, Monday, 17 March 2008 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

hardwax sold the sharevari repress, which was rumored to be a bootleg, so who knows?

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

i'm all for bootlegs of shit that never gets repressed, though (like sharevari).

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

True and the "Sharevari" boot just feels very different from a bootleg of an active label that has even been re-pressing some of it's "Classics." No judgement in these statements (I got both the "Sharevari" and "U Can Dance If U Want 2" bootlegs) just wondering.

matt2, Monday, 17 March 2008 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

i didn't know there was a bootleg of "u can dance"

totally awesome

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

but i'm still waiting for the "moody trax" boot

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

"Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.

-- matt2"

a bunch of DYS 12" appeared at the Planet E booth at DEMF 06 (i think it was) along with the original Designer Music 4 track EP. DYS was $5, DM was $15. i got em both as each was amongst my most wanted Planet E's.....

pipecock, Monday, 17 March 2008 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

is this the right place to ask about forever sweet-- namely, is anything else they did as perfect as "bleed"? does other ladomat stuff sound similar?

W i l l, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

"All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.

-- matt2"

it is a great vacation. i bring my wife and my younger sister with me every year. at least 20 of my friends go up every year from pittsburgh as well, not even counting all the people i know from around the world who show up. its as good of a time as you can have if you like dance music.

pipecock, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

My bf and I went for the first time last year and hope to make it a tradition. He is not into dance music/music in general as much as I am, but he's willing to indulge me and has family in Michigan so it works out. It is our one chance each year to hear this music in its "proper" setting (i.e. not between a pair of headphones or blasting from my car).

lou, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I'm pretty much asked to keep the beats in my headphones.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:33 (twelve years ago) link

I really, really want to go to DEMF again this year but it overlaps with a 2 week Germany trip. I guess that balances out.

littlewhiteearbuds, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

Just got this one yesterday: http://www.discogs.com/release/4982

The locked groove on the A side is perfect. I let it play for 10 or 15 minutes yesterday.

matt2, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

"That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

-- matt2"

man, that sucks. get her some good drugs and take her there, maybe she'll have a religious experience and you can all live happily ever after ;)

on the other hand, you could just go by yourself! there are lots of friendly techno nerds there.....

pipecock, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 23:12 (twelve years ago) link

got a few things today. soul center III which is pretty cool, very unique sounding.

also got this psi performer remixes and am just listening to it now. has anyone heard the album?

one time, Friday, 21 March 2008 06:57 (twelve years ago) link

and should i go back to the shop and pick up Sten - Leaving The Frantic for $6?

one time, Friday, 21 March 2008 07:33 (twelve years ago) link

Skudge - Convolution

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na0r13LEOT0

I'm not especially drawn to their stuff in general but I'm feeling this b*nger at the moment.

viborg, Thursday, 28 November 2019 06:41 (seven months ago) link

Ha I was listening on YouTube and iTunes at the same time and thought that beat went all wonky at the end.

viborg, Thursday, 28 November 2019 06:42 (seven months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKWXkT6TlW8

Stallos, from 2008, on Australian label Kindred Sounds, all new to me

saer, Thursday, 28 November 2019 07:58 (seven months ago) link

Nice to see that Guidance are putting out three compilations of Callisto (aka Dana Kelly) material. He produced some subterranean deep house records in the 90's. Sadly passed away in 2013.

https://bordelloaparigi.com/shop/upcoming/callisto-guidance-is-internal-part-1-2x12/

millmeister, Friday, 29 November 2019 22:33 (seven months ago) link

That’s fantastic news! I’ve almost considered paying the absurd prices his Nether World ep goes for, and have often hoped for a reissue - if only as a proper tribute.

ed.b, Saturday, 30 November 2019 01:05 (seven months ago) link

Love the Callisto records but don't miss out on DKMA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjt9etdGOb4

This is my fav Dana record but of course there are so many

saer, Saturday, 30 November 2019 03:33 (seven months ago) link

Repair, on Sub Static, from 2002. Textbook vibes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mshYxNN3eMQ

saer, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 12:24 (six months ago) link

Present your arguments for or against why this should be inducted into the deep house canon:

Jellybean feat Steven Dante - The Real Thing (Fun "House" Dub)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDnv6e7NLd0

The bassline is so solid, and the vocals ooze power as well. There seems to be a lack of 808 though.

'Jellybean' is one of those producers who disappoints me overall because I found his strongest production early on then later realized there wasn't much else like it. With 'Jellybean' I'm talking of course about his work on Madonna's 'Holiday' but C&C Music Factory would be another good example, their only real masterpiece that I've found is that one Grace Jones garage remix.

viborg, Monday, 9 December 2019 05:49 (six months ago) link

Full artist name is John 'Jellybean' Benitez.

viborg, Monday, 9 December 2019 05:51 (six months ago) link

IMO this is the C & C music factory masterpiece

https://youtu.be/HtmioubRtlc

I am using your worlds, Monday, 9 December 2019 14:01 (six months ago) link

(It’s their mix of a deeper love cos my link didn’t auto embed)

I am using your worlds, Monday, 9 December 2019 14:02 (six months ago) link

Right, that's not bad. A little flimsy for my deep house preferences but it's not bad. I prefer that vocal to the Aretha remake. Here's the Grace Jones garage remix (apologies if I've posted it here before, I'm kind of partial to it):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQmhjklXgu4

Just the intro alone is worthy of a full DJ mix built around it.

viborg, Monday, 9 December 2019 23:26 (six months ago) link

Full-on garage house from '89 no less.

viborg, Monday, 9 December 2019 23:26 (six months ago) link

Love that thanks. Not heard it before.

groovypanda, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 08:44 (six months ago) link

progressive breaks TIP! via andrew morgan

https://youtu.be/_eK_76hhCT8

djdirtbagstyle, Saturday, 14 December 2019 01:14 (six months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Only came across Tabu Ley this afternoon on the air balloon back from the football

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZSY7LcUyxI&feature=emb_title

saer, Wednesday, 1 January 2020 20:29 (six months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZSY7LcUyxI

saer, Wednesday, 1 January 2020 20:29 (six months ago) link

lost sounds from Portland Oregon, 2000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_r2cn0y0d8

saer, Friday, 3 January 2020 20:57 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

Big up shopping at the asda with dj assault, fruit and fibre for all shelf stackers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfdpHobejbE

saer, Monday, 10 February 2020 21:30 (four months ago) link

Came across this in a mix, it rules

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN2NXRLGKMU

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 19:19 (four months ago) link

Also this came up on twitter yesterday, it rules

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxcz83OFB1g

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 19:20 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

'Cause we're all bedroom DJs now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Eqmo7lL5mQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=273&v=O2g2_gTeP8M

ed.b, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 22:41 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2g2_gTeP8M

ed.b, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 22:42 (three months ago) link

Didn't know that Flux Mode record, Nick Holder?

saer, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 10:50 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vs90xc3N8U

Cheech - Chicago Wild, from 2003

saer, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 10:50 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R5X_M_7zZk

Koto from 1986. 1 million views but never heard of it before!

saer, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 10:13 (two months ago) link

dang dude i suppose that means you've never seen the "live" video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwG5j9KdHWk

the late great, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 18:19 (two months ago) link

between dudes doing the robot in slo mo in the background and stefano bouncing up and down, the whole choreography of the thing just screams "low gravity"

the late great, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 18:22 (two months ago) link

whoops my bad that's actually ANFRANDO MAIOLA in the video

the late great, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 18:23 (two months ago) link

Great video! Those robot lads look worn out though

saer, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 18:46 (two months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHRktVVVUo0

Seafoam from 2001. The best track from this isn't on youtube, they're all messed up with the titles. This one's understated and I'm glad of its appearance now!

saer, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 19:18 (two months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6iVtygmsuI

Lady Penelope & Abstrac,

smokng behind the bikeshes w this one innit

saer, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 19:51 (two months ago) link

love that and all the Anthill Mob stuff!

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 21:50 (two months ago) link

Can't remember if I posted this a while ago, but when I try to load this thread it crashes the tab. Here are a couple of my favorite records ever that I couldn't find anywhere online, so I digitized them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El7Kety_uh0
Rough Diamond - Singles Bar
This is a shameless rip of an Air tune, but it bumps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_ebQCg8NFo
Ikko - Night in Blue
This song just builds and builds. I love the clanging piano chords and the silky drop in the middle.

DJI, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 21:52 (two months ago) link

these are wicked, thanks DJI

Papa Triste (Thee Macallan 18 Year), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 16:03 (two months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1-Q5SF3O0A

Jazzy track from Ray Bryant, big virtual deckchair vibes for the temporarily homesteaded peoples

saer, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:50 (two months ago) link

just got this bucolic banger in the mail

https://youtu.be/R5LPN165ws8

don't worry be happy 😎

the late great, Thursday, 9 April 2020 00:42 (two months ago) link

oops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5LPN165ws8&feature=youtu.be

the late great, Thursday, 9 April 2020 00:44 (two months ago) link

sheesh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5LPN165ws8

the late great, Thursday, 9 April 2020 00:45 (two months ago) link

four weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57P4RG87RSM

Apache Project from 94, on Nick Holder's label

textbook 1-0 inflatable bananas and pints in the red lion

saer, Thursday, 7 May 2020 20:01 (one month ago) link

I've got a couple of the Justin David records but hadn't heard his first release before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZNds_1MvqA

They're all so expensive now! But maybe just all records are expensive now

saer, Thursday, 7 May 2020 20:15 (one month ago) link

This has become my fav Justin David record now:)

saer, Thursday, 14 May 2020 09:52 (one month ago) link

found a youtube playlist of the CD that got me into big pants trance a lifetime ago. still gives me that feeling like i'm going to shit my pants when i hear it lolol so embarrassing.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZzyLD-2uDHnGMp42Co6NM8IFMjmpILsr

davey, Friday, 15 May 2020 08:51 (one month ago) link

Big up all saturday morning haircut crew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PvRmpdaSfQ

saer, Monday, 25 May 2020 19:46 (one month ago) link

oh yeeeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXGUAIa9bwo

Tom Churchill on the first Headspace record, wondered what this effervescent pedalo ride was for ever!

saer, Monday, 25 May 2020 19:51 (one month ago) link

This is very good news!

saer, Monday, 25 May 2020 19:55 (one month ago) link

Boosie Badazz Fuck The Police from 2016, missed this one at the time. No missing it now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nof5tK6Mtqw

saer, Friday, 5 June 2020 19:12 (three weeks ago) link

In July, Tom Ewing will be running a Twitter world cup of 1990 tracks and looking for nominations this week. Dance music is ridiculously underpresented at the moment, given how great it was in 1990. Here's the current list:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1nbefrL-HIkjF0KvPU0ziJddlnx-eEcgAwkliyiiYH8Y/edit?usp=sharing

DHS - House of God has just been added, thankfully, but there's currently no Cubik, no I Called U, no The Power even.

If any of you are into such things, bung @people_pop a tweet with a couple of nominations. Only one of them can be a UK Top 40 hit, but neither has to be.

Alba, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 14:02 (two weeks ago) link

Sorry, @peoples_pop, not @people_pop

Alba, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 14:10 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXMedECbjUM

Merrick Brown, from 2003. Looking at his discogs page surprised at how few records he made. I'd thought there would be many more but he didn't have many releases

saer, Saturday, 27 June 2020 09:13 (five days ago) link


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