Techno/House Bobbins of the past

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I felt ILM needed a place to freely discuss techno and house without limiting to just new releases. So it can date back to Edison's recitation of the alphabet for all I care, but if you hear a great record from 5 years ago and want to discuss, then heres a place for it.

Also, I personally feel really burned out after following as much new music as I have over however long, and need to cut down, take a break, or even stop, and start listening to music without the pressure of progress. Personally, I've been fairly nostalgic for a lot of early 00's microhouse, which my dance music self grew up on (no, I'm not very old), which probably just goes to show that I've become pretty jaded.

mehlt, Sunday, 2 March 2008 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

Oh for fuck's sake, Can a moderator move this to ILM.

mehlt, Sunday, 2 March 2008 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

Excellent idea. Both ideas are excellent.

Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 2 March 2008 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

i've recently picked up some 12"s on the old forcetracks label. this one in particular is pretty good. any recommendations for other forcetracks stuff (besides luomo)?

one time, Sunday, 2 March 2008 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

I'm quite enjoying John Beltran lately, that very mid-90's Detroity ambient techno sound.

Also, Agaric - Virke (liebe Detail 10 from 2006) is killing me right now.

mehlt, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

which John Beltran are you listening too? Placid Angles is awesome.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

love 'Decembers Tragedy' by Beltran, mehlt's description being the reason

blueski, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:33 (eleven years ago) link

I think Decembers Tragedy was used in the HBO series Six Feet Under.. It was cool hearing as a soundtrack.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

Dub Taylor had a couple good/great LP's + 12"s on Force Tracks.

also check the label Raum...Musik for other pre-bobbins sounds.

Beltran's Ten Days of Blue LP on Peacefrog is classic from the first sound to the last.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

In terms of Force Tracks MRI's All That Glitters is one I come back to cos it's pure pop. "Tied to the 80's" is from a an 80's TV theme and the dub Aaliyah cover is soo cool.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 23:08 (eleven years ago) link

Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.

I've been listening to the Beltran Stuff of Stryax Leaves, which is a really great label by the way, which are rereleases from older stuff. 'Anticipation' is wonderful, and "vienna" is beautiful little piece of classical string sampling.

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 00:43 (eleven years ago) link

Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.

jesus.

or something, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 00:45 (eleven years ago) link

In my defense, I'm only 19.

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 01:13 (eleven years ago) link

All That Glitters, I still come back to that one too. Esp. side 1 and YEA the aaliyah tribute!

Speaking of Force, I want to rep for the Star You Star Me album (esp. "Perfect Day" and "Sweet Things", which are mighty swoonful).

winston, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 01:29 (eleven years ago) link

Akufen tunes on force tracks are belters.

straight, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 11:21 (eleven years ago) link

Akufen! That guy disappeared off the grid for the last couple years as far as releases have gone, right?

mh, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 13:43 (eleven years ago) link

He's apparently putting out an album this year!

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:22 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know why, but I found the MRI album to be really irritating with a few exceptions. I still need to hear the Mathias Schaffhäuser and Crank AK stuff on FT.

littlewhiteearbuds, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

In my defense, I'm only 19.

heh i wasn't zinging , you just made me feel old and useless. i have and love the 'all that glitters' double vinyl btw, esp the title track.

or something, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

Tied To The 80s is a gorgeous track - I heard it via gareth via spencer chow but I'm not sure I heard any other MRI.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

Crane A.K.'s Pink Eyed Pony seems fairly typical of the Force Tracks roster to me. Deep, dubby, bouncy, clicky. More minimal than Dub Taylor, a bit too polite?

mmmm, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

a couple of v old classics i recently encountered:

Jesse Saunders - On And On
good electro-boogie/house crossover but you could make a good case for this as first house track ever maybe (released in 84 but maybe first recorded in 83)

Farley Jackmaster Funk - Jackin The Trax
to hear it you'd believe hercules & love affair have been basing much of their sound on this one track. great house with that macabre synth hook seemingly taking its cue from italo and electro from a few years earlier.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

second one is m4a btw

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

i also put this on the prescription thread: http://www.sendspace.com/file/85v4yg

romanthony - the wanderer (journeyman thump)

elan, Thursday, 13 March 2008 00:25 (eleven years ago) link

I saw the Ladomat 100 compilation in a charity shop today, listening to it now the pre-Kompakt quirkyness seems so great. I think I should hunt down more of this stuff.

mmmm, Sunday, 16 March 2008 01:05 (eleven years ago) link

the only thing on Ladomat 2000 i've heard is this, which i like. what else is worth checking for?

one time, Sunday, 16 March 2008 02:47 (eleven years ago) link

this is all-time top 10 luv 4eva material: http://www.discogs.com/release/49178

r1o natsume, Sunday, 16 March 2008 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

This Ladomat 2000 is all-time top 10 too - http://www.discogs.com/release/17353

Kaliova, Sunday, 16 March 2008 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

Bobbins galore: http://www.youtube.com/user/HouseMasterz

Bodrick III, Sunday, 16 March 2008 22:56 (eleven years ago) link

hardwax appears to have copies of moodymann's ultra-classic 'dem young sconies' 12". a repress, perhaps?? in any case, can't rate this one highly enough.

haitch, Monday, 17 March 2008 01:19 (eleven years ago) link

I would be real surprised if Dem Young Sconies was an OP. That record makes you wonder what would have happened if KDJ had decided to concentrate on techno. That record hasn't left my crate in years.

Display Name, Monday, 17 March 2008 01:25 (eleven years ago) link

Model 500 'Starlight' is still a favorite of mine. Play doubles of that late at night. The recent Echospace/Deepchord remixes are alright, but the original holds up just fine. Others I still love, Ken Iishi 'Overlap (Mark Broom mix)', Joey Beltram 'Energy Flash', Burger/Ink 'Las Vegas', Axis' lp on Guidance, Moodyman 'Forevermore', Jay Dee 'Plastic Dreams' must still be making them money, i see new remixes of that every year. Then, play Irresistable Force's 'Flying High' over some djax to kick out the jams.

U-Haul, Monday, 17 March 2008 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.

matt2, Monday, 17 March 2008 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

hardwax sold the sharevari repress, which was rumored to be a bootleg, so who knows?

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 19:10 (eleven years ago) link

i'm all for bootlegs of shit that never gets repressed, though (like sharevari).

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

True and the "Sharevari" boot just feels very different from a bootleg of an active label that has even been re-pressing some of it's "Classics." No judgement in these statements (I got both the "Sharevari" and "U Can Dance If U Want 2" bootlegs) just wondering.

matt2, Monday, 17 March 2008 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

i didn't know there was a bootleg of "u can dance"

totally awesome

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

but i'm still waiting for the "moody trax" boot

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

"Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.

-- matt2"

a bunch of DYS 12" appeared at the Planet E booth at DEMF 06 (i think it was) along with the original Designer Music 4 track EP. DYS was $5, DM was $15. i got em both as each was amongst my most wanted Planet E's.....

pipecock, Monday, 17 March 2008 23:01 (eleven years ago) link

All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

is this the right place to ask about forever sweet-- namely, is anything else they did as perfect as "bleed"? does other ladomat stuff sound similar?

W i l l, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

"All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.

-- matt2"

it is a great vacation. i bring my wife and my younger sister with me every year. at least 20 of my friends go up every year from pittsburgh as well, not even counting all the people i know from around the world who show up. its as good of a time as you can have if you like dance music.

pipecock, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

My bf and I went for the first time last year and hope to make it a tradition. He is not into dance music/music in general as much as I am, but he's willing to indulge me and has family in Michigan so it works out. It is our one chance each year to hear this music in its "proper" setting (i.e. not between a pair of headphones or blasting from my car).

lou, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I'm pretty much asked to keep the beats in my headphones.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

I really, really want to go to DEMF again this year but it overlaps with a 2 week Germany trip. I guess that balances out.

littlewhiteearbuds, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

Just got this one yesterday: http://www.discogs.com/release/4982

The locked groove on the A side is perfect. I let it play for 10 or 15 minutes yesterday.

matt2, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

"That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

-- matt2"

man, that sucks. get her some good drugs and take her there, maybe she'll have a religious experience and you can all live happily ever after ;)

on the other hand, you could just go by yourself! there are lots of friendly techno nerds there.....

pipecock, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 23:12 (eleven years ago) link

got a few things today. soul center III which is pretty cool, very unique sounding.

also got this psi performer remixes and am just listening to it now. has anyone heard the album?

one time, Friday, 21 March 2008 06:57 (eleven years ago) link

and should i go back to the shop and pick up Sten - Leaving The Frantic for $6?

one time, Friday, 21 March 2008 07:33 (eleven years ago) link

All the Activ Analog records are so expensive now!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5-LUnZAJGU

didn't realise this was a 7", though I don't think I've ever seen it going cheap. Its really quite charming

saer, Friday, 12 April 2019 04:15 (seven months ago) link

rolling victorian criminology from DHSS on Monie Muzik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dccBOMhBhOc

saer, Friday, 12 April 2019 16:40 (seven months ago) link

Congratulations to all bosses who persisting with 4-4-2, delivering svelte bangers into the box, reducers onto fancy dans and big joy to friends and compatriots in the away end. bank account 0 vibey 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6oX6kg4weY

saer, Monday, 15 April 2019 18:08 (seven months ago) link

Always wondered what this hardened sailor was!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl9eR8HKVUo

turns out to be an old Bjorn Torske record, someone I've never really paid any attention to

saer, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 16:11 (seven months ago) link

oh that's too bad! bjorn torske is amazing!!

he doesn't do krisp records very often but he did one relatively recently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLJwH42TpoE

the late great, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 16:36 (seven months ago) link

I'll check out some of the other records, I'm not sure I really know who he was, for some reason I thought he was a tennis player!

Found another track this week that has been nameless and unknown for a good while, Electrospy. Expensive though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPrUSlsAa70

saer, Friday, 19 April 2019 10:58 (seven months ago) link

just picked up this beltram record on the reissue

echoes of shed, lone, dj zozi, aphex etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_6hoiOQHYg

the late great, Friday, 19 April 2019 17:12 (seven months ago) link

the seconbd track on the A side is pure space battle techno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5WNtVys9BY

the late great, Friday, 19 April 2019 17:14 (seven months ago) link

from the Signifier album on D4L,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf-KFi89Swk

this is the only track on youtube, maybe prefer some of the other tracks but this one is an insidious snake charm escapade. Looks like the only record released!

saer, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 14:26 (six months ago) link

overlapping wingers on a boat innit

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bs8vuUbHqhK

saer, Thursday, 25 April 2019 06:05 (six months ago) link

yes that was magical

the late great, Thursday, 25 April 2019 06:17 (six months ago) link

Should be able to find out what that is!

Meanwhile, Freitag on Tonsport. Saw this in a shop in Nantes last year pretty cheap but didn't click what it was. Pricey now though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnBbzlc25sA

saer, Thursday, 25 April 2019 09:45 (six months ago) link

Groove Chronicles track with Aaliyah sample, didn't know this one before. This is actually the record that was playing in the Edward Hopper painting of some fellows in a bar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVycT8k0tjM

saer, Monday, 29 April 2019 10:39 (six months ago) link

love "Stone Cold" - was always reading how it was a classic but I never really *got* it until I heard it in a nightclub and that bass in the second half floored me

boxedjoy, Thursday, 2 May 2019 08:57 (six months ago) link

its sneaky like that innit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdPKLIaZx0A

Julian Jonah from 88 (apparently later of 187 Lockdown, according to discogs)

saer, Thursday, 2 May 2019 09:08 (six months ago) link

Supertronic on Round and Round

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4R9MvMzg0s

hats off sailors, set sail for last orders

saer, Thursday, 9 May 2019 13:33 (six months ago) link

love "jealousy & lies." it featured on someone's mix i loved a few years back, and i wish i could remember it. maybe it's still in my itunes somewhere.

andrew m., Thursday, 9 May 2019 15:52 (six months ago) link

love it too, never heard that mix before though

brimstead, Thursday, 9 May 2019 19:21 (six months ago) link

chris korda, from 2003, such a friendly record! tailor made!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh9dqJbllNY

saer, Friday, 10 May 2019 21:56 (six months ago) link

oh and this one too! pure gold!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50fGESvxr1U

saer, Friday, 10 May 2019 22:05 (six months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmWAm6QhsIE

Understated and surprisingly genial escapade from one of Lucas Rodenbush's aliases.

saer, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 03:56 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=732Fg-uS2qE

charming escapade by Boris Tihomirov from 1985, a cup of coffee and a swim!

saer, Sunday, 16 June 2019 23:40 (five months ago) link

two weeks pass...

1997 Eredivisie winners and box to box ball winners Rufuss Ruffcut & Saw Tooth flooding the midfield with boisterous praxis in UEFA cup drama

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxqzWZ1HMyQ

saer, Saturday, 6 July 2019 07:46 (four months ago) link

Reissue for this Justin Berkovi 12 from 2000

https://soundcloud.com/dbh-music/predx002-justin-berkovi-the-storm-predicaments

Never knew about this 12! Other than that one track off. the Crouton EP that everyone likes I didn't know he'd done anything else good, but this is stellar gear

saer, Friday, 12 July 2019 03:59 (four months ago) link

South African house - this gorgeous track is from 2015 (but I only recently discovered it). I know Afro House is a thing in the international dance scene, but I have no idea if this particular kind of stuff gets any traction outside of SA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmzwDrbyA-w

DJ Clizo • Moment of Silence

breastcrawl, Saturday, 13 July 2019 18:25 (four months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Orginal Nutter! - Oi! Nutter!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UxRiyJwSqo

can't argue with that, like

saer, Sunday, 4 August 2019 16:03 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Dj Assault - Livin the Good Life, from 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfdpHobejbE

I'm not living the good life just yet as I'm stuck in a traffic jam inside the Asda, but those trolleys are bouncing like Wesleyans on Stapleton St

saer, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 18:23 (two months ago) link

In the same afternoon, at separate shops, I consecutively bought two unrelated reissues of 90s Australian dance music with orange and black covers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZjmSjCEabA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP4NrQCHs-U

ed.b, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 19:39 (two months ago) link

Weird, I discovered. Jandy's youtube channel the other.day, she's an interesting character!

saer, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 05:07 (two months ago) link

Just discovered Ray Castoldi!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xC2TUxYkCo

According to discogs he is the music director and organist at Madison Square Garden, and has performed during New York Rangers and New York Knicks games since 1989. He also appears on something called Jock Jams, doing "The Chicken Dance"

this is some well dreamy Sunday music, all the tracks (92-94) were reissued in 2017

saer, Sunday, 25 August 2019 07:47 (two months ago) link

Nice ^ !

mmmm, Sunday, 25 August 2019 09:35 (two months ago) link

For some reason I never noticed this delight on the other side of the Freaky Chakra record

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVosmBAZKYw

Not as obvious as the famous a side but still no idea how I missed this!

saer, Sunday, 8 September 2019 05:10 (two months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLuuT1mNbhc

cheese canopy (map), Monday, 16 September 2019 23:19 (two months ago) link

love that, map.

ban golf (jed_), Monday, 16 September 2019 23:44 (two months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN8BFMEfr4w

ban golf (jed_), Monday, 16 September 2019 23:51 (two months ago) link

pitched down, but that's me.

ban golf (jed_), Monday, 16 September 2019 23:53 (two months ago) link

love it

cheese canopy (map), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 00:11 (two months ago) link

oh I love Joy, pitched up though, but that's very much in character for me

boxedjoy, Friday, 20 September 2019 21:03 (one month ago) link

Been playing General Base records in Greggs again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3vZQxz_0OE

saer, Sunday, 22 September 2019 23:43 (one month ago) link

From a 90s label geographically and sonically close, but distinctly separate, from Plus8+

https://youtu.be/JNvsptyE-zk

ed.b, Monday, 23 September 2019 01:13 (one month ago) link

Ugh, embed codes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNvsptyE-zk

ed.b, Monday, 23 September 2019 01:15 (one month ago) link

Monday morning and time for some Genetic Waste mates

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OAVcQxdvDQ

saer, Monday, 23 September 2019 07:18 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

personal dictator by arnaud rebotini is still a slapper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXVcP1lifwE

davey, Sunday, 13 October 2019 03:22 (one month ago) link

Hot stuff from the Svek boys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBPfTFpYkHM

ed.b, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 01:00 (one month ago) link

That one kinda reminds me of this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=268&v=YU-PYKXncTs&app=desktop&persist_app=1

ed.b, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 01:21 (one month ago) link

just pulled this one out from my stacks tonight, got it for a buck in the mid-aughts. still really great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jGXFSgi010

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 02:03 (one month ago) link

Miro - Paradise (Red Jerry's Longdubbyvocal Mix)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRxyMKwaLto
the good cheese

davey, Friday, 18 October 2019 20:58 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuuOR-SO3fk

Jumping Back Slash • Ibhithi Nine

breastcrawl, Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:56 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcy5z5XGe8s

Joey Musaphia from 1994, watch y'sen

saer, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 20:15 (three weeks ago) link

Kollage on Subwoofer, damn this one got expensive. magic tho innit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFZK3NwMNBU

saer, Saturday, 2 November 2019 05:31 (two weeks ago) link


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