Techno/House Bobbins of the past

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I felt ILM needed a place to freely discuss techno and house without limiting to just new releases. So it can date back to Edison's recitation of the alphabet for all I care, but if you hear a great record from 5 years ago and want to discuss, then heres a place for it.

Also, I personally feel really burned out after following as much new music as I have over however long, and need to cut down, take a break, or even stop, and start listening to music without the pressure of progress. Personally, I've been fairly nostalgic for a lot of early 00's microhouse, which my dance music self grew up on (no, I'm not very old), which probably just goes to show that I've become pretty jaded.

mehlt, Sunday, 2 March 2008 21:46 (twelve years ago) link

Oh for fuck's sake, Can a moderator move this to ILM.

mehlt, Sunday, 2 March 2008 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

Excellent idea. Both ideas are excellent.

Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 2 March 2008 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

i've recently picked up some 12"s on the old forcetracks label. this one in particular is pretty good. any recommendations for other forcetracks stuff (besides luomo)?

one time, Sunday, 2 March 2008 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

I'm quite enjoying John Beltran lately, that very mid-90's Detroity ambient techno sound.

Also, Agaric - Virke (liebe Detail 10 from 2006) is killing me right now.

mehlt, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:29 (twelve years ago) link

which John Beltran are you listening too? Placid Angles is awesome.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:32 (twelve years ago) link

love 'Decembers Tragedy' by Beltran, mehlt's description being the reason

blueski, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

I think Decembers Tragedy was used in the HBO series Six Feet Under.. It was cool hearing as a soundtrack.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

Dub Taylor had a couple good/great LP's + 12"s on Force Tracks.

also check the label Raum...Musik for other pre-bobbins sounds.

Beltran's Ten Days of Blue LP on Peacefrog is classic from the first sound to the last.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:53 (twelve years ago) link

In terms of Force Tracks MRI's All That Glitters is one I come back to cos it's pure pop. "Tied to the 80's" is from a an 80's TV theme and the dub Aaliyah cover is soo cool.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 23:08 (twelve years ago) link

Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.

I've been listening to the Beltran Stuff of Stryax Leaves, which is a really great label by the way, which are rereleases from older stuff. 'Anticipation' is wonderful, and "vienna" is beautiful little piece of classical string sampling.

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 00:43 (twelve years ago) link

Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.

jesus.

or something, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 00:45 (twelve years ago) link

In my defense, I'm only 19.

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 01:13 (twelve years ago) link

All That Glitters, I still come back to that one too. Esp. side 1 and YEA the aaliyah tribute!

Speaking of Force, I want to rep for the Star You Star Me album (esp. "Perfect Day" and "Sweet Things", which are mighty swoonful).

winston, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 01:29 (twelve years ago) link

Akufen tunes on force tracks are belters.

straight, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 11:21 (twelve years ago) link

Akufen! That guy disappeared off the grid for the last couple years as far as releases have gone, right?

mh, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 13:43 (twelve years ago) link

He's apparently putting out an album this year!

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:22 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know why, but I found the MRI album to be really irritating with a few exceptions. I still need to hear the Mathias Schaffhäuser and Crank AK stuff on FT.

littlewhiteearbuds, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

In my defense, I'm only 19.

heh i wasn't zinging , you just made me feel old and useless. i have and love the 'all that glitters' double vinyl btw, esp the title track.

or something, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

Tied To The 80s is a gorgeous track - I heard it via gareth via spencer chow but I'm not sure I heard any other MRI.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

Crane A.K.'s Pink Eyed Pony seems fairly typical of the Force Tracks roster to me. Deep, dubby, bouncy, clicky. More minimal than Dub Taylor, a bit too polite?

mmmm, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

a couple of v old classics i recently encountered:

Jesse Saunders - On And On
good electro-boogie/house crossover but you could make a good case for this as first house track ever maybe (released in 84 but maybe first recorded in 83)

Farley Jackmaster Funk - Jackin The Trax
to hear it you'd believe hercules & love affair have been basing much of their sound on this one track. great house with that macabre synth hook seemingly taking its cue from italo and electro from a few years earlier.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 22:40 (twelve years ago) link

second one is m4a btw

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 22:45 (twelve years ago) link

i also put this on the prescription thread: http://www.sendspace.com/file/85v4yg

romanthony - the wanderer (journeyman thump)

elan, Thursday, 13 March 2008 00:25 (twelve years ago) link

I saw the Ladomat 100 compilation in a charity shop today, listening to it now the pre-Kompakt quirkyness seems so great. I think I should hunt down more of this stuff.

mmmm, Sunday, 16 March 2008 01:05 (twelve years ago) link

the only thing on Ladomat 2000 i've heard is this, which i like. what else is worth checking for?

one time, Sunday, 16 March 2008 02:47 (twelve years ago) link

this is all-time top 10 luv 4eva material: http://www.discogs.com/release/49178

r1o natsume, Sunday, 16 March 2008 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

This Ladomat 2000 is all-time top 10 too - http://www.discogs.com/release/17353

Kaliova, Sunday, 16 March 2008 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

Bobbins galore: http://www.youtube.com/user/HouseMasterz

Bodrick III, Sunday, 16 March 2008 22:56 (twelve years ago) link

hardwax appears to have copies of moodymann's ultra-classic 'dem young sconies' 12". a repress, perhaps?? in any case, can't rate this one highly enough.

haitch, Monday, 17 March 2008 01:19 (twelve years ago) link

I would be real surprised if Dem Young Sconies was an OP. That record makes you wonder what would have happened if KDJ had decided to concentrate on techno. That record hasn't left my crate in years.

Display Name, Monday, 17 March 2008 01:25 (twelve years ago) link

Model 500 'Starlight' is still a favorite of mine. Play doubles of that late at night. The recent Echospace/Deepchord remixes are alright, but the original holds up just fine. Others I still love, Ken Iishi 'Overlap (Mark Broom mix)', Joey Beltram 'Energy Flash', Burger/Ink 'Las Vegas', Axis' lp on Guidance, Moodyman 'Forevermore', Jay Dee 'Plastic Dreams' must still be making them money, i see new remixes of that every year. Then, play Irresistable Force's 'Flying High' over some djax to kick out the jams.

U-Haul, Monday, 17 March 2008 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.

matt2, Monday, 17 March 2008 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

hardwax sold the sharevari repress, which was rumored to be a bootleg, so who knows?

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

i'm all for bootlegs of shit that never gets repressed, though (like sharevari).

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

True and the "Sharevari" boot just feels very different from a bootleg of an active label that has even been re-pressing some of it's "Classics." No judgement in these statements (I got both the "Sharevari" and "U Can Dance If U Want 2" bootlegs) just wondering.

matt2, Monday, 17 March 2008 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

i didn't know there was a bootleg of "u can dance"

totally awesome

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

but i'm still waiting for the "moody trax" boot

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

"Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.

-- matt2"

a bunch of DYS 12" appeared at the Planet E booth at DEMF 06 (i think it was) along with the original Designer Music 4 track EP. DYS was $5, DM was $15. i got em both as each was amongst my most wanted Planet E's.....

pipecock, Monday, 17 March 2008 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

is this the right place to ask about forever sweet-- namely, is anything else they did as perfect as "bleed"? does other ladomat stuff sound similar?

W i l l, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

"All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.

-- matt2"

it is a great vacation. i bring my wife and my younger sister with me every year. at least 20 of my friends go up every year from pittsburgh as well, not even counting all the people i know from around the world who show up. its as good of a time as you can have if you like dance music.

pipecock, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

My bf and I went for the first time last year and hope to make it a tradition. He is not into dance music/music in general as much as I am, but he's willing to indulge me and has family in Michigan so it works out. It is our one chance each year to hear this music in its "proper" setting (i.e. not between a pair of headphones or blasting from my car).

lou, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I'm pretty much asked to keep the beats in my headphones.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:33 (twelve years ago) link

I really, really want to go to DEMF again this year but it overlaps with a 2 week Germany trip. I guess that balances out.

littlewhiteearbuds, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

Just got this one yesterday: http://www.discogs.com/release/4982

The locked groove on the A side is perfect. I let it play for 10 or 15 minutes yesterday.

matt2, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

"That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

-- matt2"

man, that sucks. get her some good drugs and take her there, maybe she'll have a religious experience and you can all live happily ever after ;)

on the other hand, you could just go by yourself! there are lots of friendly techno nerds there.....

pipecock, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 23:12 (twelve years ago) link

got a few things today. soul center III which is pretty cool, very unique sounding.

also got this psi performer remixes and am just listening to it now. has anyone heard the album?

one time, Friday, 21 March 2008 06:57 (twelve years ago) link

and should i go back to the shop and pick up Sten - Leaving The Frantic for $6?

one time, Friday, 21 March 2008 07:33 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijrTRHL2rYI

Jamie J Morgan's Why...there's a few good versions of this, think this mix is Tenaglia.

Features recent Bernie convert Peter Daou on keyboards!

saer, Sunday, 13 September 2020 15:18 (two months ago) link

It appears Morgan co-write Neneh Cherry's Buffalo Stance!

saer, Monday, 14 September 2020 09:03 (two months ago) link

everyone knows this one i'm sure but just picked up the reissue so rather pleased today

lord sabre bringing epic vibes per usual

https://youtube.com/7yGjN-pNy0s

the flip meanwhile is very funky and should play nice with current post dubstep breaks like overmono or annunaku or whatever

https://youtube.com/xU6V_1Q114o

https://www.discogs.com/The-Future-Sound-Of-London-Papua-New-Guinea-Stolen-Documents-In-Tribute-To-Andrew-Weatherall-/release/15836064

the late great, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:52 (two months ago) link

damn fucked that up

the late great, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:52 (two months ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/7yGjN-pNy0s

http://www.youtube.com/xU6V_1Q114o

better??

the late great, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:54 (two months ago) link

youtube hates me =(

the late great, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:54 (two months ago) link

Good stuff. Did you see FSOL released some new versions of Cascade a couple weeks ago?

DJI, Thursday, 24 September 2020 16:42 (two months ago) link

yeah i did!! my local shop got the 7" and cascade 2020 and the new amorphous androgynous direct from them in the same batch. but because of budget i was only able to grab the 7"

the late great, Thursday, 24 September 2020 17:11 (two months ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=silK7frRxnY

Da Kick Squad with the back garden saluts. Salut!

saer, Monday, 28 September 2020 19:14 (one month ago) link

these CIA lads are getting boisterous, you can follow da link

saer, Monday, 28 September 2020 19:15 (one month ago) link

Fish and chips twice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnYYhxtPdoc

Laid on Fiji, didn't know this one, skipped past it in a store in Montpellier a few years ago but missed this one. The sound of a tinny cracked open can't argue with physics

saer, Monday, 28 September 2020 19:45 (one month ago) link

oh weird i was just listening to punch up, this is maybe even punchier

the late great, Monday, 28 September 2020 19:46 (one month ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=jR57-i2fskc

I keep meaning to check out more of the Fiji stuff, but this one from Journeyman is a perennial. Geniality distilled!

saer, Monday, 28 September 2020 20:04 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR57-i2fskc

saer, Monday, 28 September 2020 20:05 (one month ago) link

This one came on shuffle in the car today, only from 2015 I think, but I love this shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpGvUp4kf3w

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 19:16 (one month ago) link

This whole EP from 91 wow:

https://www.discogs.com/Maarten-van-der-Vleuten-TZ-2/release/61882

brimstead, Friday, 2 October 2020 02:10 (one month ago) link

Duketown / Duketech is great, heard that fairly recently but didn't know what it was, Thanks to you brimstead!

saer, Friday, 2 October 2020 05:47 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

smith n hack - falling stars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6F-MNLf3T0

davey, Monday, 26 October 2020 05:48 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqg9fxtd1Do

Audaleyz Boyz on Labello Blanco, with a pretty big lift from Frankie Paul

saer, Friday, 30 October 2020 11:20 (three weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9RsRic8KTg

And if we're talking liberal lifts, this from The Sureshot Project. But its escaping me right now

saer, Friday, 30 October 2020 11:37 (three weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLLQMBexCbQ

LPGV & H ‎- On E, from 1999. Get the kettle on, la

saer, Sunday, 1 November 2020 13:33 (three weeks ago) link

scooped this up unheard out of a dollar bin today ... not really that into heiko laux, always associated him with boring trackiness ... but i've had my eyes peeled for hidden gems on yoshitoshi since i got turned on to "gak trak" by deep dish ... imagine my surprise when i got home and put it on ... it's like the balearic basic channel ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVFv_F7kc14

the late great, Sunday, 1 November 2020 21:23 (three weeks ago) link

think i've already posted the aforementioned gak trak but there's never a bad time to repost it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTi6s4-W_R0

the late great, Sunday, 1 November 2020 21:25 (three weeks ago) link

apparently it's like a $5 record?!? ridiculous!!

https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/29691?ev=rb¤cy=USD

the late great, Sunday, 1 November 2020 21:26 (three weeks ago) link

that sounds like heiko laux got his suitcase mixed up with william orbit

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Sunday, 1 November 2020 22:33 (three weeks ago) link

I like some Heiko Laux, but for me, he will always be associated with this really excellent Surgeon remix that I got in a dollar bin in 2006.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXJWPb97FSI

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 2 November 2020 02:05 (three weeks ago) link

surgeon is a really fascinating artist, everything he does is either meaningless loops devoid of all feeling or he creates something epic out of like three ingredients, like a barbecue pitmaster.

sadly I must categorize the above post as part of the first genus

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 2 November 2020 02:24 (three weeks ago) link

idk i feel like that surgeon remix is pretty decent

the late great, Monday, 2 November 2020 02:38 (three weeks ago) link

To each their own! Not doing anything for me.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 2 November 2020 02:40 (three weeks ago) link

has anybody taken “pitmaster” as their nom de bobbins?

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 2 November 2020 02:54 (three weeks ago) link

El Tomboto, that track has a lot going on if you listen past the first minute or two.

I dunno, I really love Surgeon and think he's a masterful artist and DJ, but I guess I hold controversial opinions everywhere on this board lol

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 2 November 2020 03:20 (three weeks ago) link

i thought surgeon was pretty popular around here? i really like his work from 97-01, especially the tresor albums and early counterbalance 12s. i love love love the counterbalance collection mix cd from 2001, probably the greatest drum loop techno statement of purpose from someone not named jeff mills that exists. british murder boys was aight but honestly i cooled off on him alot when he got very eclectic and laptoppy around 2007.

the late great, Monday, 2 November 2020 03:47 (three weeks ago) link

i think the fabric mix was when i pretty much gave up - now i hear he's doing like modular ambient music? lol

the late great, Monday, 2 November 2020 03:48 (three weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjgYwoKwUP0

Another Frankie Paul vocal lift on Labello Blanco, this time from Macka Brown

saer, Monday, 2 November 2020 05:37 (three weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEnHqZF--20

Unexpected 2004 classic from from Dark Nites on otherwise unmemorable Aquamelon label. All time record, didn't realize it was on youtube!

saer, Monday, 2 November 2020 06:00 (three weeks ago) link

surgeon’s great! would def take any random surgeon track over any random autechre track imho. but some of his stuff is just flavorless. Yes I know how to use the ffwd button to get to the good parts of techno songs. Thanks for the tip.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 2 November 2020 06:38 (three weeks ago) link

Tombot, then how could you call that remix 'soulless loops'? It's nowhere near peak Surgeon!

And no need to get tetchy.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 2 November 2020 12:28 (three weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdFUddpd7Lw

Erasure - Stay With Me (NY mix). Francois Kevorkian mix from 1995. It was hiding in plain sight all along!

saer, Monday, 2 November 2020 17:21 (three weeks ago) link

That is the shit.

DJI, Monday, 2 November 2020 18:28 (three weeks ago) link

Surgeon probably peaked with the Counterbalance EPs c. 2000. From his recent albums, "Breaking the Frame" was excellent, and albums (as Anthony Child) for Editions Mego were really good too.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 2 November 2020 21:08 (three weeks ago) link

scored some fresh early 90s dream house today for $5 + shipping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrL2kPYdIAk

the late great, Monday, 2 November 2020 22:14 (three weeks ago) link

I have that on vinyl, too!

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 2 November 2020 23:49 (three weeks ago) link

😎

the late great, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 00:42 (three weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvUJXdmFOLA

Stonecold GX Crew - Absolutely Weighty (2002)

saer, Friday, 20 November 2020 19:39 (six days ago) link

Top bins once again there la

saer, Friday, 20 November 2020 19:45 (six days ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISluofTFlFs

Bounty Killer Can't Believe Mi Eye (Raw Uncut Version), 1998

saer, Sunday, 22 November 2020 07:37 (four days ago) link

Flagged for violent homophobia.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Sunday, 22 November 2020 16:49 (four days ago) link

Oops, good point!

saer, Monday, 23 November 2020 08:26 (three days ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZZ_e17nIas

back on high ground with Sly Paul - My Mind, 1997

saer, Monday, 23 November 2020 16:24 (three days ago) link


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