Techno/House Bobbins of the past

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I felt ILM needed a place to freely discuss techno and house without limiting to just new releases. So it can date back to Edison's recitation of the alphabet for all I care, but if you hear a great record from 5 years ago and want to discuss, then heres a place for it.

Also, I personally feel really burned out after following as much new music as I have over however long, and need to cut down, take a break, or even stop, and start listening to music without the pressure of progress. Personally, I've been fairly nostalgic for a lot of early 00's microhouse, which my dance music self grew up on (no, I'm not very old), which probably just goes to show that I've become pretty jaded.

mehlt, Sunday, 2 March 2008 21:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

Oh for fuck's sake, Can a moderator move this to ILM.

mehlt, Sunday, 2 March 2008 17:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

Excellent idea. Both ideas are excellent.

Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 2 March 2008 20:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

i've recently picked up some 12"s on the old forcetracks label. this one in particular is pretty good. any recommendations for other forcetracks stuff (besides luomo)?

one time, Sunday, 2 March 2008 21:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm quite enjoying John Beltran lately, that very mid-90's Detroity ambient techno sound.

Also, Agaric - Virke (liebe Detail 10 from 2006) is killing me right now.

mehlt, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

which John Beltran are you listening too? Placid Angles is awesome.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:32 (nine years ago) Permalink

love 'Decembers Tragedy' by Beltran, mehlt's description being the reason

blueski, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think Decembers Tragedy was used in the HBO series Six Feet Under.. It was cool hearing as a soundtrack.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

Dub Taylor had a couple good/great LP's + 12"s on Force Tracks.

also check the label Raum...Musik for other pre-bobbins sounds.

Beltran's Ten Days of Blue LP on Peacefrog is classic from the first sound to the last.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

In terms of Force Tracks MRI's All That Glitters is one I come back to cos it's pure pop. "Tied to the 80's" is from a an 80's TV theme and the dub Aaliyah cover is soo cool.

mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 23:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.

I've been listening to the Beltran Stuff of Stryax Leaves, which is a really great label by the way, which are rereleases from older stuff. 'Anticipation' is wonderful, and "vienna" is beautiful little piece of classical string sampling.

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 00:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.

jesus.

or something, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 00:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

In my defense, I'm only 19.

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 01:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

All That Glitters, I still come back to that one too. Esp. side 1 and YEA the aaliyah tribute!

Speaking of Force, I want to rep for the Star You Star Me album (esp. "Perfect Day" and "Sweet Things", which are mighty swoonful).

winston, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 01:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

Akufen tunes on force tracks are belters.

straight, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 11:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

Akufen! That guy disappeared off the grid for the last couple years as far as releases have gone, right?

mh, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 13:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

He's apparently putting out an album this year!

mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

I don't know why, but I found the MRI album to be really irritating with a few exceptions. I still need to hear the Mathias Schaffhäuser and Crank AK stuff on FT.

littlewhiteearbuds, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 15:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

In my defense, I'm only 19.

heh i wasn't zinging , you just made me feel old and useless. i have and love the 'all that glitters' double vinyl btw, esp the title track.

or something, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 17:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

Tied To The 80s is a gorgeous track - I heard it via gareth via spencer chow but I'm not sure I heard any other MRI.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 17:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

Crane A.K.'s Pink Eyed Pony seems fairly typical of the Force Tracks roster to me. Deep, dubby, bouncy, clicky. More minimal than Dub Taylor, a bit too polite?

mmmm, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 21:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

a couple of v old classics i recently encountered:

Jesse Saunders - On And On
good electro-boogie/house crossover but you could make a good case for this as first house track ever maybe (released in 84 but maybe first recorded in 83)

Farley Jackmaster Funk - Jackin The Trax
to hear it you'd believe hercules & love affair have been basing much of their sound on this one track. great house with that macabre synth hook seemingly taking its cue from italo and electro from a few years earlier.

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 22:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

second one is m4a btw

blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 22:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

i also put this on the prescription thread: http://www.sendspace.com/file/85v4yg

romanthony - the wanderer (journeyman thump)

elan, Thursday, 13 March 2008 00:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

I saw the Ladomat 100 compilation in a charity shop today, listening to it now the pre-Kompakt quirkyness seems so great. I think I should hunt down more of this stuff.

mmmm, Sunday, 16 March 2008 01:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

the only thing on Ladomat 2000 i've heard is this, which i like. what else is worth checking for?

one time, Sunday, 16 March 2008 02:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

this is all-time top 10 luv 4eva material: http://www.discogs.com/release/49178

r1o natsume, Sunday, 16 March 2008 19:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

This Ladomat 2000 is all-time top 10 too - http://www.discogs.com/release/17353

Kaliova, Sunday, 16 March 2008 19:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

Bobbins galore: http://www.youtube.com/user/HouseMasterz

Bodrick III, Sunday, 16 March 2008 22:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

hardwax appears to have copies of moodymann's ultra-classic 'dem young sconies' 12". a repress, perhaps?? in any case, can't rate this one highly enough.

haitch, Monday, 17 March 2008 01:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

I would be real surprised if Dem Young Sconies was an OP. That record makes you wonder what would have happened if KDJ had decided to concentrate on techno. That record hasn't left my crate in years.

Display Name, Monday, 17 March 2008 01:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

Model 500 'Starlight' is still a favorite of mine. Play doubles of that late at night. The recent Echospace/Deepchord remixes are alright, but the original holds up just fine. Others I still love, Ken Iishi 'Overlap (Mark Broom mix)', Joey Beltram 'Energy Flash', Burger/Ink 'Las Vegas', Axis' lp on Guidance, Moodyman 'Forevermore', Jay Dee 'Plastic Dreams' must still be making them money, i see new remixes of that every year. Then, play Irresistable Force's 'Flying High' over some djax to kick out the jams.

U-Haul, Monday, 17 March 2008 15:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.

matt2, Monday, 17 March 2008 17:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

hardwax sold the sharevari repress, which was rumored to be a bootleg, so who knows?

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 19:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

i'm all for bootlegs of shit that never gets repressed, though (like sharevari).

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 19:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

True and the "Sharevari" boot just feels very different from a bootleg of an active label that has even been re-pressing some of it's "Classics." No judgement in these statements (I got both the "Sharevari" and "U Can Dance If U Want 2" bootlegs) just wondering.

matt2, Monday, 17 March 2008 20:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

i didn't know there was a bootleg of "u can dance"

totally awesome

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 21:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

but i'm still waiting for the "moody trax" boot

elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 21:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

"Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.

-- matt2"

a bunch of DYS 12" appeared at the Planet E booth at DEMF 06 (i think it was) along with the original Designer Music 4 track EP. DYS was $5, DM was $15. i got em both as each was amongst my most wanted Planet E's.....

pipecock, Monday, 17 March 2008 23:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 14:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

is this the right place to ask about forever sweet-- namely, is anything else they did as perfect as "bleed"? does other ladomat stuff sound similar?

W i l l, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 16:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

"All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.

-- matt2"

it is a great vacation. i bring my wife and my younger sister with me every year. at least 20 of my friends go up every year from pittsburgh as well, not even counting all the people i know from around the world who show up. its as good of a time as you can have if you like dance music.

pipecock, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 19:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:07 (nine years ago) Permalink

My bf and I went for the first time last year and hope to make it a tradition. He is not into dance music/music in general as much as I am, but he's willing to indulge me and has family in Michigan so it works out. It is our one chance each year to hear this music in its "proper" setting (i.e. not between a pair of headphones or blasting from my car).

lou, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm pretty much asked to keep the beats in my headphones.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

I really, really want to go to DEMF again this year but it overlaps with a 2 week Germany trip. I guess that balances out.

littlewhiteearbuds, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

Just got this one yesterday: http://www.discogs.com/release/4982

The locked groove on the A side is perfect. I let it play for 10 or 15 minutes yesterday.

matt2, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

"That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.

-- matt2"

man, that sucks. get her some good drugs and take her there, maybe she'll have a religious experience and you can all live happily ever after ;)

on the other hand, you could just go by yourself! there are lots of friendly techno nerds there.....

pipecock, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 23:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

got a few things today. soul center III which is pretty cool, very unique sounding.

also got this psi performer remixes and am just listening to it now. has anyone heard the album?

one time, Friday, 21 March 2008 06:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

and should i go back to the shop and pick up Sten - Leaving The Frantic for $6?

one time, Friday, 21 March 2008 07:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

No idea - most stuff seems to be vinyl only though I actually found this on CD, which I dont usually buy but it was cheap and I gave it a shot!

saer, Saturday, 30 September 2017 13:45 (one month ago) Permalink

Care to share?

dan selzer, Saturday, 30 September 2017 15:53 (one month ago) Permalink

I'll have a go next week!

saer, Saturday, 30 September 2017 16:34 (one month ago) Permalink

Out in a economically depressed industrial town, best known for its latter day synthpop (no, not that town) an old 2LS record appeared without a listening booth or reliable phone reception. A decent gamble.

https://youtu.be/TYkQ1LkPu7o

ed.b, Sunday, 1 October 2017 16:59 (one month ago) Permalink

Good choice, forgotten about this record - listening now and I prefer to the original

I don't know anything about latter day synthpop though I'm so rarely in Accrington these days

saer, Sunday, 1 October 2017 18:54 (one month ago) Permalink

I didn't realize this was Austin Bascom - its very nice! Had a quick scan through of the album and there's the instrumental version of black thanx on there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQMc2Ly9AI8

saer, Monday, 2 October 2017 01:48 (one month ago) Permalink

anyone know the tune at 1 hour 6 mins in this?

https://soundcloud.com/orpheuthewizard/tako-orpheu-b2b-lente-kabinet-2015/comment-365790900

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Friday, 6 October 2017 14:20 (one month ago) Permalink

That just got me kicked out of the library!

saer, Friday, 6 October 2017 14:59 (one month ago) Permalink

I snuck back into the library but the librarian that knew the answer was long gone to sunnier climes. here is a record by trans mania instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqpmhE7DkL8

saer, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 10:41 (one month ago) Permalink

Mr Jeremy Sylvester on the top deck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sdxVt4zhlg

saer, Thursday, 12 October 2017 05:19 (one month ago) Permalink

"boing boom jack" is pretty clever

the late great, Thursday, 12 October 2017 05:56 (one month ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIdGDmwCcQo

bought the comp this is on years ago but never played it all until today.
yeah, straight up basic 4*4, but damn its hitting the spot today.

mark e, Thursday, 12 October 2017 15:28 (one month ago) Permalink

luke slater always dope but especially his planetary assault systems stuff

the late great, Thursday, 12 October 2017 17:51 (one month ago) Permalink

angel street definitely a highlight of that comp

the late great, Thursday, 12 October 2017 17:54 (one month ago) Permalink

for my money the real dope is archives 1 - it's got "gated", "booster" and "starway ritual"

the late great, Thursday, 12 October 2017 17:55 (one month ago) Permalink

veggi grooves - denver 1993

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf_24BR1RTA

saer, Friday, 13 October 2017 12:16 (one month ago) Permalink

a ton of mixes of this but this is the one with the skulluggery, used to play this one at sea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz9DVElQ3tM

saer, Sunday, 15 October 2017 02:30 (one month ago) Permalink

stuck in my head today

https://youtu.be/z02huaBd-SY

the late great, Sunday, 15 October 2017 03:36 (one month ago) Permalink

did luke slater build "angel street" around a snippet of this voorn + baxter track?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO0U2R7x7Ao

the late great, Sunday, 15 October 2017 04:53 (one month ago) Permalink

xps that "Sexitivity" is great!

boxedjoy, Sunday, 15 October 2017 10:44 (one month ago) Permalink

i clearly need to get more luke slater stuff.
i only have 'alright on top' (still not overly into it - the vocals don't work for me), and the second volume of his 'fear and loathing' mix which is brilliant.

mark e, Sunday, 15 October 2017 10:57 (one month ago) Permalink

Freek Funk was a great album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk_NcZDFxUc

groovypanda, Friday, 20 October 2017 10:56 (one month ago) Permalink

two years old, just repressed

not so impressed with the other tracks so i passed on it, but this one is great acid breaks revival stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u57zcpoZYfU

the late great, Saturday, 21 October 2017 20:07 (four weeks ago) Permalink

that slater track is great, very carl craig

the late great, Saturday, 21 October 2017 20:13 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Jalal Ouissal's only ever release, from 2002. Not a pseudonym, looks like he just turned away from music after this:(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQvGSzL4w54

saer, Saturday, 21 October 2017 20:43 (four weeks ago) Permalink

I never knew this was a Photek record until half past ten this morning!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQE7jQPDrtc

saer, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 20:01 (two weeks ago) Permalink

you know they reissued that?

https://www.discogs.com/Photek-TRaenon/release/10330691

the late great, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 20:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

the a1 starts off one of my all-time favorite mix sets

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Checkone-Applied-Rhythmic-Technology/release/9793

https://www.mixcloud.com/mmcm19/check-one-kirk-degirogio-1/

https://www.mixcloud.com/mmcm19/check-one-kirk-degiorgio-2/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxtLS93bSt0&feature=youtu.be

the b1 also seems to have gotten a lot of attention over the past few years (talked up by efdemin among others)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1zdbEW-104

all this talk reminds me of the other pre-solaris 4/4 photek track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBNoyTJ9JLU

the late great, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 20:18 (two weeks ago) Permalink

is that first youtube busted? i'll try again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxtLS93bSt0

the late great, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 20:19 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Stone cold classic ^^ xp

Don't think I ever heard his last album, Ku:Palm. Is it any good?

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 20:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

discogs metadata not promising

Style:
Techno, Breaks, Deep House, Dubstep, Progressive House, Experimental

the late great, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 20:23 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i have not heard it but his dj kicks from the same time was ... not good

imo he totally lost the magic after "modus operandi"

the late great, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 20:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I saw it was reissued once I realized what it was. I've heard it different times in different contexts but none that I can place specifically. Not so keen on the other side! its ok but not in same league!

saer, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 20:50 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Scott Edward(s)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq2nmD9BI44

I haven't heard this track before but its very reminiscent of a couple of things I'd like to find. Its not as expensive as I thought it might be but it will have to wait a little

saer, Thursday, 2 November 2017 19:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Mustafa - Circles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YthuuGO1dng

Great track, Big sam was one of the first to cane this back in the reebok days

saer, Friday, 3 November 2017 20:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Demarkus Lewis from 2004

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta0eQgU9VKM

He was really on form around that period but this is the one I always return to, still cheap on discogs too!

saer, Friday, 3 November 2017 23:13 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i’ve always been torn abt demarkus - like kerri or derrick he puts out a ton of stuff, some of it amazing, some of it too commercial for my taste

this is the one i keep coming back to

https://youtu.be/crOAcMAXPsg

the late great, Friday, 3 November 2017 23:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I figure with people like that when they put out a ton of stuff it doesn't really matter some of it isn't very good! I don't have to own or like all of their records.

Its like being a striker, if they have a bad game all is forgiven when they score a goal! I agree though he has a lot of bad records, but I don't mind as there are great ones in there too

saer, Friday, 3 November 2017 23:34 (two weeks ago) Permalink

This is reminding me of one of my favourite albums, I only like one track on it! in fact i think this is the only good track they ever did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6nSXqzogB4

Pitched up a little though!

saer, Friday, 3 November 2017 23:38 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I picked up a bunch of unpromising looking records from a friend earlier this year and didn't bother going through them other than cursory listen till just now and gave them away, and it turns out this was on one of them. I should know by now not to skip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqsesNDDntg

saer, Friday, 3 November 2017 23:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yeah that’s a good way to think abt it

the late great, Saturday, 4 November 2017 00:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The unpromising sounding Will Dobson, sounds like someone who plays for Lincoln City

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBefDZR60uM

saer, Saturday, 4 November 2017 06:41 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Wow, whoever thought this fellow would come out of hiding!! Colin McGraw, whoever that is

I don't have the money because ive bought too many records:(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_vN1YliJfU

saer, Saturday, 4 November 2017 12:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Techno and balearic mates! Any ideas what Onur is playing here. The party is 2014 but the record is obviously much older (I think!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvRuoDzZ3bg

saer, Saturday, 4 November 2017 12:49 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I think this one should be guessable, certainly the producer!

saer, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 14:12 (one week ago) Permalink

but in the meantime here is a mark archer record

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5skO1nhJxw

saer, Friday, 10 November 2017 22:04 (one week ago) Permalink

Mr trever t on firm handed, the other version of this is very expensive but prefer this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=164&v=V3Omqm563gM

saer, Friday, 17 November 2017 08:08 (three days ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3Omqm563gM

saer, Friday, 17 November 2017 08:09 (three days ago) Permalink

and in a different mood and back into affordable territory, Peter F Speiss from 2002

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NXu5tdFbWk

Theres a really great Speiss track but it not on here and I can't seem to find it

saer, Friday, 17 November 2017 08:12 (three days ago) Permalink

Might be time to do a new mix!

saer, Friday, 17 November 2017 08:13 (three days ago) Permalink


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