I felt ILM needed a place to freely discuss techno and house without limiting to just new releases. So it can date back to Edison's recitation of the alphabet for all I care, but if you hear a great record from 5 years ago and want to discuss, then heres a place for it.
Also, I personally feel really burned out after following as much new music as I have over however long, and need to cut down, take a break, or even stop, and start listening to music without the pressure of progress. Personally, I've been fairly nostalgic for a lot of early 00's microhouse, which my dance music self grew up on (no, I'm not very old), which probably just goes to show that I've become pretty jaded.
― mehlt, Sunday, 2 March 2008 21:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh for fuck's sake, Can a moderator move this to ILM.
― mehlt, Sunday, 2 March 2008 17:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Excellent idea. Both ideas are excellent.
― Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 2 March 2008 20:59 (sixteen years ago) link
i've recently picked up some 12"s on the old forcetracks label. this one in particular is pretty good. any recommendations for other forcetracks stuff (besides luomo)?
― one time, Sunday, 2 March 2008 21:59 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm quite enjoying John Beltran lately, that very mid-90's Detroity ambient techno sound.
Also, Agaric - Virke (liebe Detail 10 from 2006) is killing me right now.
― mehlt, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link
which John Beltran are you listening too? Placid Angles is awesome.
― mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:32 (sixteen years ago) link
love 'Decembers Tragedy' by Beltran, mehlt's description being the reason
― blueski, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:33 (sixteen years ago) link
I think Decembers Tragedy was used in the HBO series Six Feet Under.. It was cool hearing as a soundtrack.
― mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Dub Taylor had a couple good/great LP's + 12"s on Force Tracks.
also check the label Raum...Musik for other pre-bobbins sounds.
Beltran's Ten Days of Blue LP on Peacefrog is classic from the first sound to the last.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 22:53 (sixteen years ago) link
In terms of Force Tracks MRI's All That Glitters is one I come back to cos it's pure pop. "Tied to the 80's" is from a an 80's TV theme and the dub Aaliyah cover is soo cool.
― mmmm, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 23:08 (sixteen years ago) link
Heh, I was playing All That Glitters a moment ago - first Vinyl I ever owned.
I've been listening to the Beltran Stuff of Stryax Leaves, which is a really great label by the way, which are rereleases from older stuff. 'Anticipation' is wonderful, and "vienna" is beautiful little piece of classical string sampling.
― mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 00:43 (sixteen years ago) link
jesus.
― or something, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 00:45 (sixteen years ago) link
In my defense, I'm only 19.
― mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 01:13 (sixteen years ago) link
All That Glitters, I still come back to that one too. Esp. side 1 and YEA the aaliyah tribute!
Speaking of Force, I want to rep for the Star You Star Me album (esp. "Perfect Day" and "Sweet Things", which are mighty swoonful).
― winston, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 01:29 (sixteen years ago) link
Akufen tunes on force tracks are belters.
― straight, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 11:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Akufen! That guy disappeared off the grid for the last couple years as far as releases have gone, right?
― mh, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 13:43 (sixteen years ago) link
He's apparently putting out an album this year!
― mehlt, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 14:22 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't know why, but I found the MRI album to be really irritating with a few exceptions. I still need to hear the Mathias Schaffhäuser and Crank AK stuff on FT.
― littlewhiteearbuds, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link
heh i wasn't zinging , you just made me feel old and useless. i have and love the 'all that glitters' double vinyl btw, esp the title track.
― or something, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Tied To The 80s is a gorgeous track - I heard it via gareth via spencer chow but I'm not sure I heard any other MRI.
― blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Crane A.K.'s Pink Eyed Pony seems fairly typical of the Force Tracks roster to me. Deep, dubby, bouncy, clicky. More minimal than Dub Taylor, a bit too polite?
― mmmm, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 21:16 (sixteen years ago) link
a couple of v old classics i recently encountered:
Jesse Saunders - On And On good electro-boogie/house crossover but you could make a good case for this as first house track ever maybe (released in 84 but maybe first recorded in 83)
Farley Jackmaster Funk - Jackin The Trax to hear it you'd believe hercules & love affair have been basing much of their sound on this one track. great house with that macabre synth hook seemingly taking its cue from italo and electro from a few years earlier.
― blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link
second one is m4a btw
― blueski, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 22:45 (sixteen years ago) link
i also put this on the prescription thread: http://www.sendspace.com/file/85v4yg
romanthony - the wanderer (journeyman thump)
― elan, Thursday, 13 March 2008 00:25 (sixteen years ago) link
I saw the Ladomat 100 compilation in a charity shop today, listening to it now the pre-Kompakt quirkyness seems so great. I think I should hunt down more of this stuff.
― mmmm, Sunday, 16 March 2008 01:05 (sixteen years ago) link
the only thing on Ladomat 2000 i've heard is this, which i like. what else is worth checking for?
― one time, Sunday, 16 March 2008 02:47 (sixteen years ago) link
this is all-time top 10 luv 4eva material: http://www.discogs.com/release/49178
― r1o natsume, Sunday, 16 March 2008 19:13 (sixteen years ago) link
This Ladomat 2000 is all-time top 10 too - http://www.discogs.com/release/17353
― Kaliova, Sunday, 16 March 2008 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link
Bobbins galore: http://www.youtube.com/user/HouseMasterz
― Bodrick III, Sunday, 16 March 2008 22:56 (sixteen years ago) link
hardwax appears to have copies of moodymann's ultra-classic 'dem young sconies' 12". a repress, perhaps?? in any case, can't rate this one highly enough.
― haitch, Monday, 17 March 2008 01:19 (sixteen years ago) link
I would be real surprised if Dem Young Sconies was an OP. That record makes you wonder what would have happened if KDJ had decided to concentrate on techno. That record hasn't left my crate in years.
― Display Name, Monday, 17 March 2008 01:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Model 500 'Starlight' is still a favorite of mine. Play doubles of that late at night. The recent Echospace/Deepchord remixes are alright, but the original holds up just fine. Others I still love, Ken Iishi 'Overlap (Mark Broom mix)', Joey Beltram 'Energy Flash', Burger/Ink 'Las Vegas', Axis' lp on Guidance, Moodyman 'Forevermore', Jay Dee 'Plastic Dreams' must still be making them money, i see new remixes of that every year. Then, play Irresistable Force's 'Flying High' over some djax to kick out the jams.
― U-Haul, Monday, 17 March 2008 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.
― matt2, Monday, 17 March 2008 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link
hardwax sold the sharevari repress, which was rumored to be a bootleg, so who knows?
― elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link
i'm all for bootlegs of shit that never gets repressed, though (like sharevari).
― elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link
True and the "Sharevari" boot just feels very different from a bootleg of an active label that has even been re-pressing some of it's "Classics." No judgement in these statements (I got both the "Sharevari" and "U Can Dance If U Want 2" bootlegs) just wondering.
― matt2, Monday, 17 March 2008 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link
i didn't know there was a bootleg of "u can dance"
totally awesome
― elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link
but i'm still waiting for the "moody trax" boot
― elan, Monday, 17 March 2008 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link
"Yeah that's weird about "Dem Young Sconies" appearing at Hardwax. Do they sell bootleg stuff? I mean there is always the chance that Planet E re-pressed it I suppose, but I would think they would've used one of the Planet E Classics labels or something rather than the original label like they're showing on the Hardwax site.
-- matt2"
a bunch of DYS 12" appeared at the Planet E booth at DEMF 06 (i think it was) along with the original Designer Music 4 track EP. DYS was $5, DM was $15. i got em both as each was amongst my most wanted Planet E's.....
― pipecock, Monday, 17 March 2008 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link
All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.
― matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 14:21 (sixteen years ago) link
is this the right place to ask about forever sweet-- namely, is anything else they did as perfect as "bleed"? does other ladomat stuff sound similar?
― W i l l, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 16:08 (sixteen years ago) link
"All the more proof that it's really unacceptable that I've never made it to DEMF. I keep trying to convince my wife that it would be a great vacation.
it is a great vacation. i bring my wife and my younger sister with me every year. at least 20 of my friends go up every year from pittsburgh as well, not even counting all the people i know from around the world who show up. its as good of a time as you can have if you like dance music.
― pipecock, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 19:36 (sixteen years ago) link
That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.
― matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:07 (sixteen years ago) link
My bf and I went for the first time last year and hope to make it a tradition. He is not into dance music/music in general as much as I am, but he's willing to indulge me and has family in Michigan so it works out. It is our one chance each year to hear this music in its "proper" setting (i.e. not between a pair of headphones or blasting from my car).
― lou, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, I'm pretty much asked to keep the beats in my headphones.
― matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link
I really, really want to go to DEMF again this year but it overlaps with a 2 week Germany trip. I guess that balances out.
― littlewhiteearbuds, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Just got this one yesterday: http://www.discogs.com/release/4982
The locked groove on the A side is perfect. I let it play for 10 or 15 minutes yesterday.
― matt2, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:09 (sixteen years ago) link
"That'd be the problem. Wifey loves dancing but doesn't like "dance music." It only takes about 30 seconds of any synthetic beat of the thump-thump-thump-thump-this-is-going-to-be-a-dance-song variety and my wife gets extreme anxiety. She loves Depeche Mode and plenty of early 90's poppier house stuff but can't stomach a moment of "true" techno, even something as gorgeous as "R-Theme" or "Dominas." I know, it doesn't make sense to me either.
man, that sucks. get her some good drugs and take her there, maybe she'll have a religious experience and you can all live happily ever after ;)
on the other hand, you could just go by yourself! there are lots of friendly techno nerds there.....
― pipecock, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 23:12 (sixteen years ago) link
got a few things today. soul center III which is pretty cool, very unique sounding.
also got this psi performer remixes and am just listening to it now. has anyone heard the album?
― one time, Friday, 21 March 2008 06:57 (sixteen years ago) link
and should i go back to the shop and pick up Sten - Leaving The Frantic for $6?
― one time, Friday, 21 March 2008 07:33 (sixteen years ago) link
that compilation is absolutely amazing
― calumerio, Friday, 9 June 2023 09:23 (one year ago) link
Speaking of early Goa party music, Finnish DJ Lupu has a couple mixes online of mid-to-late 80s-early 90s tracks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZiFY7rCjJM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2DGaT9DeeM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=did2EETaRdU
― jvc, Friday, 9 June 2023 22:18 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3auP_y6BA5Q
Take Six - Mr. Lucky (1980)
deckchairs out
― saer, Thursday, 15 June 2023 13:19 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYxZOTTHa_U
The Persuader - Sun Position (2013)
This is nice, very much his sound though I've not heard anything from this time before
― saer, Thursday, 15 June 2023 14:20 (one year ago) link
I enjoy all eras of The Persuader
This is one from around that time, and that sound, that I like:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrMp-lQSRb4
― ed.b, Thursday, 15 June 2023 14:49 (one year ago) link
A few I've had on repeat lately:
Tim Deluxe - Transformation (this was probably a real big tune? sounds familiar but I wasn't really paying attention at the time)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNgY-kTPY3Q
Audio Werner - Trusthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGOUmXb3oLA
― Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Thursday, 15 June 2023 15:15 (one year ago) link
love those drums
― corrs unplugged, Friday, 16 June 2023 11:47 (one year ago) link
lol @ me posting the wrong video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAA3lKNqZHU
― Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Friday, 16 June 2023 15:55 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9rg-ywhxwo
Jedeye - Dream House (1999)
I came across this unknown Auckland NZ gem recently, its so reminiscent of something but can't think what. There's an album but this one is the stand out
― saer, Saturday, 17 June 2023 05:08 (one year ago) link
i have this memory of starting a thread called "fake basic channel" or "best tracks not by maurizio" but i can't find it. if i could i would post this there
the otisbros - 4th of july (down mix)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C36MtidluU
― the late great, Friday, 23 June 2023 17:47 (one year ago) link
not this thread (iirc i posted yellow sox "flim flam" to it) but similar in intent: house tracks that owe a huge debt to basic channel
― the late great, Friday, 23 June 2023 17:50 (one year ago) link
i am sorry to report that my explorations into late pre millenial breaks music have taken me to dark places
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqAJ7CDEQi0
― the late great, Friday, 23 June 2023 17:57 (one year ago) link
song really does what it says on the tin, right? every time you think "wow that's a really shitty sample" dj who rolls up with an even shittier one
if he can stretch that bs to 7.5 mins should be easy for someone to do a similar job on zomby's "need ur lovin", still surprised nobody has done yet done a bootleg edit of that one, would think it would be a no brainer in our current era
― the late great, Friday, 23 June 2023 18:04 (one year ago) link
or get mike parker to do it, the other reason i've been checking out old defective records (a lot of them are bad!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w1dT8le2yw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BstZhHu-oIU
"resonator one" and his "give a little more" remix
― the late great, Friday, 23 June 2023 18:07 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UDcHANVvLM
Miguel Migs - Petalpushing(Ian Pooley Dub 1) (2005)
flying thru preseason with Kim Carnes
― saer, Friday, 7 July 2023 19:37 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PODOX0WDMLU
Ten City - All Loved Out Ilù 'Ife (Love Drum) (1997)
Joe Claussell mix I'd never heard before, softly playing to a completely deserted cafe's backyard
― saer, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 08:17 (one year ago) link
outstanding
― corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 10:46 (one year ago) link
aarhus sound represent, I love this labelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tv2fzzutkU
― brimstead, Friday, 11 August 2023 17:53 (eleven months ago) link
that’s lush as fuck
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 11 August 2023 18:03 (eleven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6mgqSP4pKU
not really the right tempo but I love this Hi Mount one from yesteryear, Erika De Casier on vocals too
― boxedjoy, Friday, 11 August 2023 22:33 (eleven months ago) link
aarhus sound represent, I love this label
That Club V-Bee 12 is top bins, best on the label or from that scene by far!
― saer, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 01:47 (eleven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FUZ75WqkU0
Fries & Bridges - It Dont Stop (2002)
back garden bonanza
― saer, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 01:51 (eleven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bC1DmOUufU
Sharon S - Wonderful (Instrumental Deep Dub) (1993)
Delightful Italian dream - seems to have been on quite a few "Best of Dance" type compilations but no mixes
― saer, Monday, 18 September 2023 22:28 (ten months ago) link
Robin's distant european cousing?
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 23:08 (ten months ago) link
Italo House project of Bini/Perniola (AKA Fathers Of Sound) with an uncredited Sharon May Linn performance on vocals. 'Sharon S' was apparently a blink to Robin S., very popular back then.
Apparently so! Although I am slightly confused how Sharon is uncredited when the record is in her name
― saer, Thursday, 21 September 2023 05:43 (ten months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qODwX1JmGv4
Moonchildren - Beyond Love (1998)
Chris Gray is often a touch understated for me but when it comes together like this one, untouchable
― saer, Thursday, 21 September 2023 13:11 (ten months ago) link
I have an affection for this sound, had never heard this track until today, at least consciously
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxTZB5i96oA
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 28 September 2023 00:42 (nine months ago) link
don’t really know what to say about this except it’s some very nice deep funky business, tom churchill - “personal interpretation”, from 1998 on headspacehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dr86kAStu8
― brimstead, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 05:06 (nine months ago) link
Tom Churchill really hit the heights on a number of occasions round that time period
Wide Open is another one, though not on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXGUAIa9bwo
Ascendant is though
― saer, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 07:25 (nine months ago) link
Dj Duke - Rock Da Techfunk (Techfunkers Remix) 1996https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35ww6AMzoP0
bought without knowing the tunes cuz i’ve enjoyed some dj duke over the years. this is breakier than what i usually go for, but it took me on a nice journey tonight.
― andrew m., Thursday, 30 November 2023 02:36 (seven months ago) link
Sounds more 88 than 96. Was going to say it should be on Cutting before I noticed all the Hashim samples. Smokin' Records too.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 30 November 2023 14:15 (seven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy5KTWDyKGw
Mental Cube - Q ( Original Mix ) 1991
― corrs unplugged, Monday, 26 February 2024 09:19 (five months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iykvtX_ptyg
Kurupt - C Walk (1998)
crisp and autumnal
― saer, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 18:05 (five months ago) link
I like this expansive definition of 'bobbins' that includes the C-Walk.
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 20:02 (four months ago) link
No expansive only core
― saer, Thursday, 29 February 2024 20:39 (four months ago) link
Psychedelic Research Lab - Taraneh (Spy's Sub Mix)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKoc38QTzvw
― ed.b, Friday, 22 March 2024 13:59 (four months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpEstBxLGcAmolinaro - "jtl" (2019)
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Thursday, 18 April 2024 23:59 (three months ago) link
― corrs unplugged, Monday, 22 April 2024 07:23 (three months ago) link
Merrick Brown - Stealth Crime (pretty sure the video is mislabelled)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcSW40mzT3U
― ed.b, Thursday, 16 May 2024 18:24 (two months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mklI8PwKmBc
Liebe Ist Cool - Hymn (2006)
― saer, Monday, 20 May 2024 18:08 (two months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ota60aWnXdM
Xen Mantra - All That Shakin'
Mark Archer of Altern 8 and might be his best one too
― saer, Saturday, 8 June 2024 11:19 (one month ago) link
Soul Parlor - Hearing Comfort
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRGHYlxzEU8
― ed.b, Sunday, 9 June 2024 15:32 (one month ago) link
that Soul Parlor is wonderful
― corrs unplugged, Monday, 10 June 2024 12:45 (one month ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34jrTJHUIGk
Junkie Sartre - Let's Take It Over
smooth sailing with Patti Smith on vocals
― saer, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 15:32 (one month ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX7FTygXSHU
DKMA - Can't Turn Around (DKMA Millennium Dub) (1999)
smooth sailing after Patti disembarks
― saer, Wednesday, 19 June 2024 06:41 (one month ago) link
Junkie Sartre is v intriguing - not surprised to learn it’s Richard Davis, always loved his work.
re: DKMA, Dana Kelly another deeply reliable producer (gonna take a moment to feel gratitude for those callisto represses for awhile back)
― ed.b, Thursday, 20 June 2024 14:06 (one month ago) link
Finn posted this on twitter, captured me instantly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwkVR3VeKas
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 14:25 (three weeks ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zChr_yZ5CYA
Willie Snickers - Set The Fire (1996)
― saer, Thursday, 18 July 2024 19:20 (one week ago) link
Turns out its Boo Williams
― saer, Thursday, 18 July 2024 19:44 (one week ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjLnP_XLW5c
Lynn Lockamie - Love So Strong (Metro Dub)
Textbook delivery
― saer, Friday, 26 July 2024 13:29 (yesterday) link