Killing Joke is going to get creamed.
― Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 15 November 2007 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link
one confident vote for Killing Joke
― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 15 November 2007 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link
The Clash is better them both of them.
― Jazzbo, Thursday, 15 November 2007 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link
people like to razz alex but early killing joke shit is bomb
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 15 November 2007 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link
M@tt, voice of truth as always
― gff, Thursday, 15 November 2007 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link
the first killing joke album is easily one of my favorites ever
― latebloomer, Thursday, 15 November 2007 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link
i have no opinion on steely dan whatsoever
― latebloomer, Thursday, 15 November 2007 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link
everything by killing joke up to and including fire dances rules the world.
― scott seward, Thursday, 15 November 2007 21:54 (sixteen years ago) link
still voting for steely dan though.
Killing Joke hardly needs my defending in this case. Yes, Jaz looks like shit these days (tho' so does Scott Seward, I'd wager), but their music takes a planet-engulfing dump on Steely Dan's weedy, jazzbo piffle every day of the apocalypse.
― Alex in NYC, Thursday, 15 November 2007 22:33 (sixteen years ago) link
no contest.
joke by a knockout four seconds into round one.
― m the g, Thursday, 15 November 2007 22:34 (sixteen years ago) link
steely dan from yokohama spurt buckets of hot jizz all over, extinguishing the fire
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 15 November 2007 22:41 (sixteen years ago) link
"es, Jaz looks like shit these days (tho' so does Scott Seward, I'd wager)"
SHEESH
― chaki, Thursday, 15 November 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link
no no it's yeesh
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 15 November 2007 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Scott can take it
― Alex in NYC, Thursday, 15 November 2007 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah, i can take it. i mean, have you SEEN a picture of alex? like roadkill in sunglasses.
fyi, alex, just in case you haven't heard that new October File album yet, it's really good. Fierce Killing Joke metal with Jazzy Jaz on guest vox.
― scott seward, Thursday, 15 November 2007 23:36 (sixteen years ago) link
thompson twins are better than both of them
― chaki, Thursday, 15 November 2007 23:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Hold Chaki now.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 November 2007 23:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, I've heard it. S'alright.
― Alex in NYC, Friday, 16 November 2007 02:06 (sixteen years ago) link
that new October File album yet, it's really good. Fierce Killing Joke metal
This is true! Really good album. Alex, you should check out the Alchemist album too -- also very KJ.
I like the first three Killing Joke albums and their first live EP myself; after that, zzzzzzzzzzzzz.
So Steely Dan gets my vote.
― xhuxk, Friday, 16 November 2007 13:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Shocker.
― Alex in NYC, Friday, 16 November 2007 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link
I prefer Steely Dan but I'm voting for the Joke, 'cuz I'm fed up reading about Steely Dan on ILM
― Tom D., Friday, 16 November 2007 13:37 (sixteen years ago) link
YEAH!
http://www.anirrationaldomain.net/images/jaz/jaz243.jpg
― Alex in NYC, Friday, 16 November 2007 13:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Are we voting for which band is uglier, or what?
'Cause that would be a truly tough call to make indeed!
― JN$OT, Friday, 16 November 2007 13:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Geordie wasn't ugly. Youth Martin certainly wasn't.
― Tom D., Friday, 16 November 2007 13:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Don't know about now tho!
― Tom D., Friday, 16 November 2007 13:48 (sixteen years ago) link
after that, zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Though, come to think of it, SD have been equally zzzzzz since Gaucho (and probably including most of Gaucho) at least. Which means they've been boring even longer than Killing Joke have! (Last SD album I care about: 1977. Last KJ album I care about: 1982) So maybe I should have taken that into consideration. (Oh wait, I kind of like The Nightfly -- that's 1982 too, right? But I don't think that counts any more than October File does.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 16 November 2007 13:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― ILX System, Saturday, 24 November 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Going off of the two Steely Dan records I have (Aja and Gaucho) and the two Killing Joke records I have (S/T and What's THIS For...!), Killing Joke easily gets the vote for me.
― Z S, Saturday, 24 November 2007 01:31 (sixteen years ago) link
OMG Killing Joke vs. Steely Dan LOLZ wow I mean that's a REAL tough decision there. Anyone with half a brain would go with KJ, I am SORRY.
― Bimble, Saturday, 24 November 2007 07:23 (sixteen years ago) link
and those with a full brain?
― Frogman Henry, Saturday, 24 November 2007 07:27 (sixteen years ago) link
Full-brained folks tend not to waste their time here on ILM.
― Alex in NYC, Saturday, 24 November 2007 18:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― ILX System, Sunday, 25 November 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link
pwnt
― jhøshea, Sunday, 25 November 2007 00:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Steely Dan voters apparently scared to post here though
― Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 25 November 2007 00:04 (sixteen years ago) link
killing joke fans so angry and scary
― jhøshea, Sunday, 25 November 2007 00:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Those aware of the world around them SHOULD be angry and scared.
― Alex in NYC, Sunday, 25 November 2007 00:20 (sixteen years ago) link
That could quite possibly be the most pretentious retort I've ever posted. Time to open a beer, then!
PS: Steely Dan is boring.
― Alex in NYC, Sunday, 25 November 2007 00:35 (sixteen years ago) link
just listened to killing joke for the first time - i didnt realize it was a goth thing
― jhøshea, Sunday, 25 November 2007 00:41 (sixteen years ago) link
It's not.
― Alex in NYC, Sunday, 25 November 2007 00:50 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.lifeishell.de/oldcontent/goths2.jpg
― jhøshea, Sunday, 25 November 2007 01:00 (sixteen years ago) link
Yes, those are goths. Lollipops for you, then.
― Alex in NYC, Sunday, 25 November 2007 01:24 (sixteen years ago) link
that is a photo of killing joke
― jhøshea, Sunday, 25 November 2007 01:33 (sixteen years ago) link
No, it's a family of your family Thanksgiving party, cocksmoker.
― Alex in NYC, Sunday, 25 November 2007 01:46 (sixteen years ago) link
photo. argh. Go die.
― Alex in NYC, Sunday, 25 November 2007 01:47 (sixteen years ago) link
lol
― jhøshea, Sunday, 25 November 2007 01:47 (sixteen years ago) link
jhøshea ur family seems great!!!
― max, Sunday, 25 November 2007 01:48 (sixteen years ago) link
yah tooo much drama tho
― jhøshea, Sunday, 25 November 2007 01:50 (sixteen years ago) link
The "silent majority" at work, eh.
I voted for Killing Joke.
― Pashmina, Sunday, 25 November 2007 02:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Not that I agree with the analogies, but why is a band that's an analogous to a power tool better than a band that's analogous to a rice cake? Rice cakes may be bland, but power tools just make me think of blunt masculine energy, which I rarely find appealing.
― jaymc, Monday, 26 November 2007 19:41 (sixteen years ago) link
power tools go right to my hips : (
― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 26 November 2007 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Let's take the transcripts of arguments between 6th grade boys on the back of school buses, parse them, and judge the insults. I am sure this will bear fruit!
― filthy dylan, Monday, 26 November 2007 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link
If you fell into a cave, and it was full of power tools and rice cakes, I bet you'd be way more into the rice cakes.
― filthy dylan, Monday, 26 November 2007 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link
Or you could use the power tools to drill through the walls and get out.
― Pleasant Plains, Monday, 26 November 2007 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link
well if the cave has free utilities then you might as well just live there
― bernard snowy, Monday, 26 November 2007 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link
rice cakes are good w/cream cheese
― jhøshea, Monday, 26 November 2007 20:36 (sixteen years ago) link
im going to add some rice cakes and cream cheese to my fresh direct order
― jhøshea, Monday, 26 November 2007 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Turning into a TITTWWS thread.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 26 November 2007 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link
J0hnD. is capt. save-a-controversy. p.s. u madddd
― am0n, Monday, 26 November 2007 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link
can't wait 4 his willfully naive rebutt-al!!! XD
― am0n, Monday, 26 November 2007 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Power tools are mostly battery operated now, ya know.
And if you fall on a big pile of them, you can just use another one when the previous one's battery runs out.
Look, I got this "escape from a fucking cave" thing all worked out in my head.
― Pleasant Plains, Monday, 26 November 2007 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link
maybe you could fashion the rice cakes into a ladder using the power tools
― jhøshea, Monday, 26 November 2007 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link
I think I once read a Walker Percy novel based on a famous philosophical conundrum similar to this one.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 26 November 2007 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Ricecakes In the Ruins
― Pleasant Plains, Monday, 26 November 2007 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, that was it.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 26 November 2007 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link
I have zero history with Alex (I'm still very new here), but his comment made me laugh out loud at the end of a long day. He's ok by me. :)
― Nate Carson, Monday, 26 November 2007 22:52 (sixteen years ago) link
WHY I DISLIKE ALEX IN NYC, A LESSON IN THREE PARTS.
It's well beyond mutual, ass monkey!
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 00:54 (sixteen years ago) link
So the more ds, the maddddddder u r?
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 00:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Why must people be so utterly humorless?
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 02:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Killing jokes.
― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 02:53 (sixteen years ago) link
I laughed.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 03:24 (sixteen years ago) link
you're so vain you probably think this thread is about you
― sanskrit, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 05:03 (sixteen years ago) link
This thread was composed as a retort to this thread, so yes -- it might as well be about me.
PS: Up yours.
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 12:29 (sixteen years ago) link
this looks like a cool cd:
2000 VA- Gothic Club Classics audio A double-CD collection of true gothic club classics! Not any Bauhaus, Nephilim, Xymox or Mission song, but their absolute best, most recognized, and most essential tracks for the newly converted: The Mission UK's Wasteland, Bauhaus' Bela Lugosi, The Clan's Louise, X-mal's Incubus Succubus II , Killing Joke's Love Like Blood, Nick Cave's Weeping Song, Fields of the Nephilim's MoonChild, and several other leading gothic bands like Dreadful Shadows, Love Like Blood, Inkubus Sukkubus, Theatre of Tragedy and many more. 28 songs.
so does this one:
2006: VA - A Life Less Lived: The Gothic Boxaudio "A 4-disc box (3 CDs + DVD), with 53 songs and 12 videos originally released between 1978 and 1998, this boxed set provides a uniquely comprehensive listen into the largest underground scene in the world. Long before its black velvet and pale skin fashions crept into American malls, Goth music represented an underground movement led by fans who favored songs that tapped into the antisocial energy of punk but celebrated dark introspection, tempestuous atmospherics and visual panache. Rhino brings together influential bands that rarely or never participate in Gothic music compilations to create a fascinating cross-section of all matters pertaining to Goth. The box set includes essential classic hits from the founders of the gothic rock movement including Bauhaus, Joy Division, The Sisters of Mercy, The Cure, The Jesus And Mary Chain, The Mission UK, Echo & The Bunnymen, Siouxsie & The Banshees, Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds, Love And Rockets, Fields Of The Nephilim, Ghost Dance, Peter Murphy, The Danse Society, Clan Of Xymox, Xmal Deutschland, Cocteau Twins, Dead Can Dance, The Damned, Killing Joke and many more."
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 12:56 (sixteen years ago) link
qft
― J0hn D., Tuesday, 27 November 2007 13:08 (sixteen years ago) link
What the fuck do they know? I don't consider Joy Division or the J&MC goths either, for what it's worth.
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link
..and nor should anyone.
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link
See, that last post is where I just start laughing at you.
― Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link
joy division are the precursors to minimal house, everyone knows that
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link
i bet steely dan has the highest percentage of fans who used to loath them of any band.
― jhøshea, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link
How long will the new Alex'n'Nate comedy team last?
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 16:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Never loathed them, just considered them a guilty pleasure. Have since dropped the guilty part.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Funnily enough, I've been laughing at you since before I can remember.
Joy Division aren't goths. Inspiration to the Goths? Sure. But to call Joy Division goths does them a profound disservice.
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 17:27 (sixteen years ago) link
Alex has forgotten all of us, Rock Hardy. Maybe he should have revived the Alzheimer's thread last week.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/WilliamCrump63/crumblaughing.jpg
― Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 17:42 (sixteen years ago) link
http://walkerart.org/archive/D/AB737183A1BE364D6168.jpg
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC, Thursday, November 15, 2007 2:33 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark
LOL
― Eisbaer, Monday, 10 November 2008 07:08 (fifteen years ago) link
i like killing joke tbh (i bought their first record at a store a few years ago and the guy loled and said, "i've been waiting for that one to move every since i opened the store...four years ago") but i think the comparison between their impish goth new wave punk thing and steely dan's carefully constructed, literate hard rock is a little weird?
― omar little, Monday, 7 December 2009 23:56 (fourteen years ago) link
planet-engulfing dump
― what fun it is to reign & sing a Slayer song tonight (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Said it once & I'll assuredly say it again: FUCK Steely Dan.
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 04:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Steely Dan is almost perfect but that is for another thread.
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 05:50 (fourteen years ago) link
went into this thread wishing i'd been around to vote for killing joke...
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 09:34 (fourteen years ago) link
jazz-rock beats goth every time.
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 15:05 (fourteen years ago) link
not every time.
― what fun it is to reign & sing a Slayer song tonight (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link
there are absolutely no circumstances in which steely dan are preferable to killing joke.
― m the g, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link
i can totally understand this POV if you're into goth
― omar little, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm into goth and the answer to this is still Steely Dan
― Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link
i think "the royal scam" is the most goth steely dan album
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Very classy homophobia upthread, et al.
― really senile old crap shit (Eric H.), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link