the 5th dimension c/d

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CLASSIC obv

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

My mother-in-law went to church with Marilyn McCoo when they were growing up. Apparently Ms. McCoo was insufferable.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

I believe it. My friend's mom went to high school with Cybil Shepherd in Memphis and she said Cybil was a big slut!

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 20:28 (twelve years ago) link

this band has some good songs but i think mostly boring

deej, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

My sister-in-law went to that high school! (Many years after Cybil Shepherd.)

HI DERE, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

Way cool.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 20:33 (twelve years ago) link

dan didnt your dad go to my college

deej, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

I don't like them quite as much as I did in the early 70s, but I still like some of their songs.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

Aquarius as a whole wasn't so hot, but Greatest Hits On Earth is certainly worth owning. Strange, my copy vanished a coupla years ago. No doubt there's better anthologies available by now.

I think I might've hated them if it were 1970 and I had to hear their hits 17 times a day.

Myonga Vön Bontee, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

dan didnt your dad go to my college

My dad is on the Alumni Board of your college!

lol this thread is basically Six Degrees of HI DERE

HI DERE, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

Cheesy and delicious.

Davey D, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

so wonderful, esp. 'Love's Lines, Angles, and Rhymes'

derrrick, Thursday, 25 October 2007 06:07 (twelve years ago) link

Classic: "One Less Bell to Answer," "Working on a Groovy Thing," "Together Let's Find Love," "Save the Country," "Last Night I Didn't Get to Sleep at All," and of course "Aquarius/Let the Sun Shine In" and "Wedding Bell Blues"

Dud: "Go Where You Wanna Go" ("whomever"?!), "Puppet Man" (though not as bad as Tom Jones's)

So Corny They're Sublime: "California Soul," "Sweet Blindness"

Joseph McCombs, Thursday, 25 October 2007 06:30 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, I just don't see "California Soul" or "Sweet Blindness" as being corny at all. Just utterly sublime. The whole of "Stone Soul Picnic" is quite brilliant and their best album I think. Certainly it's more solid than "The Magic Garden" or "Portrait" which is great but dragged down by a long medley on side 2. Check out "It's A Great Life" or "The Eleventh Song (What A Groovy Day) if you want some feel-good pop.

everything, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

Magic Garden is GREAT!! Aside from a blaring cover of "Ticket To Ride," the record is a really unique psych-soul fusion written and assembled by Jimmy Webb. There's an argument to be made that it's his best work.

Everyone posting here should go and download "Requiem: 820 Latham" immediately.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

Not meaning to diminish The Magic Garden. It's great but not half as catchy as Stone Soul Picnic. Guess I'm not so much of a Webb fan (though the aforementioned "The Eleventh Song (What A Groovy Day)" is one of his).

everything, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

Also classic: their way with medleys and variety/award-show schmaltz:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QcYvoX17gNU

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4g9egPBKYK4

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hjOGLDdwIdk

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RU_s1WzpP-Y

I love how they dance like they're all wearing neck braces in that last one.

Joseph McCombs, Thursday, 25 October 2007 19:37 (twelve years ago) link

"Living Together, Growing Together" = best cover from a Peter Finch/Liv Ullmann musical.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 25 October 2007 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

That Grammys stuff is incredible. I guess I vote classic, but with the nagging feeling that there is still something a little watered down and evened out about their sound- I know I'd read rather hear Laura Nyro song her own songs with her trademark rubato and hear "Aquarius" with Idris Muhammad on drums.

If you sing a medley and one of the songs included is in itself a medley like "Aquarius/Let The Sunshine In," does that make it an uebermedley?

Where is the mention of the 6th Dimension, Bones Howe?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 26 October 2007 04:38 (twelve years ago) link

Perhaps I can interest some of you in this abbreviated thread, shorter even than Tracer Hand's Go-go thread: TS: Sweet Blindness vs. Sweet Cherry Wine

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 26 October 2007 04:42 (twelve years ago) link

The Association are a much better example of this genre at its best.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 26 October 2007 09:16 (twelve years ago) link

If you don't dig the 5th Dimension, you don't dig rock and roll, maaaan.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Friday, 26 October 2007 09:19 (twelve years ago) link

best interpreters of Jimmy Webb ever, California pop-soul rules, their hits were great radio fare thru the early 70s but yeah all those TV appearances got kinda lame after awhile (same w/Alice Cooper!)

m coleman, Friday, 26 October 2007 09:50 (twelve years ago) link

The Association are a much better example of this genre at its best.

Both have elements of sunshine pop -- but these bands are leagues apart, Geir.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 26 October 2007 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

"The Girls' Song" is lovely and not usually rated.

derrrick, Friday, 26 October 2007 19:37 (twelve years ago) link

Agreed. As is the sitar-laden "Dreams/Pax/Nepenthe"...

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 26 October 2007 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

The Association are a much better example of this genre at its best.

Both have elements of sunshine pop -- but these bands are leagues apart, Geir.

-- Naive Teen Idol, Friday, October 26, 2007 7:00 PM

I was gonna say, on what planet are these two bands in the same genre?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 26 October 2007 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

Magic Garden is GREAT!! Aside from a blaring cover of "Ticket To Ride,"

OTM!! I love this album and it's very nearly ruined by having a SHITTY Beatles cover slap bang in the middle of it!!!

Tom D., Thursday, 1 November 2007 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

What's the 5th Dimension song with the funky drum break in it?

Lolpez, Thursday, 1 November 2007 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

Sure you're not thinking of Friends of Distinction's "Grazing in the Grass"?

Joseph McCombs, Thursday, 1 November 2007 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I love this group
so much that I named myself
for its weirdest song.

Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 1 November 2007 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

Their setting of the Declaration of Independence to music is worth hearing once but ultimately a dud. I have it on 45, b/w "A Change Is Gonna Come/People Got to Be Free" medley.

Joseph McCombs, Friday, 2 November 2007 01:07 (twelve years ago) link

Joseph McCombs, you are wrong. That song is hilariously great.

Dimension 5ive, Friday, 2 November 2007 01:25 (twelve years ago) link

I also have that 45!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 2 November 2007 01:38 (twelve years ago) link

three years pass...

Just downloaded their last record with the original group, Earthbound -- Jimmy Webb back at the helm, synths and funked up covers of songs like "I've Got a Feelin'." Kinda like it so far.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 13 February 2011 04:12 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

Get "The Magic Garden" first. "Aquarius" still gives me chills.

Deremiah Was a Bullfrog (u s steel), Thursday, 26 May 2011 12:19 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Happy 4th from the Dimension:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQP563gKwIU

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 4 July 2011 17:57 (eight years ago) link

I had forgotten about Dimension 5ive! When I was a kid my cousin's house had a bar in the basement (unused, since his parents were teetotallers) that we pretended was our nightclub, and the soundtrack was Dimension 5ive and Cafe Regio (the flipside of Isaac Hayes' Shaft 45.) We were the OG cratediggers.

Have not gotten over my dancing phase (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 16:53 (eight years ago) link

six years pass...
one month passes...

james redd otm

one year passes...

The Association are a much better example of this genre at its best.
― Geir Hongro

Both have elements of sunshine pop -- but these bands are leagues apart, Geir.
― Naive Teen Idol

I was gonna say, on what planet are these two bands in the same genre?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver

"Wedding Bell Blues" is one of my favourite songs ever, and "One Less Bell to Answer" isn't far behind; also love lots of sunshine pop. I don't think it's a crazy comparison (or an insult) to group the 5th Dimension and the Association together, in sound or in how they were perceived at the time--chart pop music to the core, somewhere apart from rock's ongoing transition towards art and seriousness and all that. (Or to approach it from a different angle, the 5th Dimension are closer in my mind to the Association than they are to Sly & Family Stone or Aretha Franklin or the best late-'60s Motown hits.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 02:14 (two weeks ago) link

Those Grammy Award videos where they would sing medleys of the nominated songs seem to have gone off of YouTube *sigh*

Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 02:27 (two weeks ago) link

Hmm. Never even heard of this tune "Flashback" until just now.

Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 02:32 (two weeks ago) link

I have always adored 'Love's Lines Angles & Rhymes.' The lyrics are completely bonkers. It tickles me to imagine Marilyn McCoo memorizing the lyrics- "Cylinders of hope turning and yearning into pendulums of weary hesitation - what the fuck?" It was a pretty big hit in Scranton in 1971.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMF5eIyMsEc

Migdalia Amygdala (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 03:51 (two weeks ago) link

i love "aquarius/let the sunshine in"

dyl, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 03:55 (two weeks ago) link

And another thing: Joni Mitchell basically wrote new lyrics to Love's Lines Angles & Rhymes and called it "The Hissing of Summer Lawns." Fight me.

Migdalia Amygdala (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 03:56 (two weeks ago) link

Where is the mention of the 6th Dimension, Bones Howe?

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, October 26, 2007 12:38 AM (twelve years ago)

I've been listening to his production oeuvre recently, and am increasingly considering him one of the all-time greats, the sunniest of sunshine-pop producers. Also, another link between the 5th Dimension and the Association

Lee626, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 04:47 (two weeks ago) link

Not to mention it was pretty much the same group of session musicians laying down the instrumental tracks for both of those groups from '67 to '69 at least (not sure about after that). It would be interesting to strip the vocals from 5D and Association records and see how similar the rest sounds.

Josefa, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 14:13 (two weeks ago) link

Lots of secret drug messages, too: "Up, Up and Away," "Along Comes Mary."

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 15:22 (two weeks ago) link

5D recorded Jimmy Webb, the Association turned down Jimmy Webb.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 15:29 (two weeks ago) link

They still ended up recording PF Sloan.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 28 May 2020 06:53 (one week ago) link

tho it’s pretty terrible

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 28 May 2020 06:54 (one week ago) link


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