The Beatles

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the greatest band ever
the worst band ever
are ok
overrated
overplayed
overrated and overplayed
wouldnt be so legendary without john
wouldnt be so legendary withour paul
other (specify)

Zeno, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 23:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

The most important band ever although a few of their followers were even better. :)

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 23:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

this was supposed to be a poll...

Zeno, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 23:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

i like it better as a normal thread. because all of those things are true.

funny farm, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 23:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

now you can choose poll/thread

Zeno, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 23:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

No, they are one of the greatest bands ever, and neither underrated nor overrated.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 23:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

googlism, which is very smart about these things, says:

beatles is dood
beatles is here
beatles is in your mind
beatles is back
beatles is worth clinging to by andrew_hicks
beatles is in a 3
beatles is better then them
beatles is incidental
beatles is coming
beatles is not easy unless you "search" for it
beatles is a difficult task
beatles is still alive
beatles is an excellent site and well worth a visit
beatles is
beatles is connected to the following things
beatles is connected to because
beatles is beatles
beatles is a sequel of the highest order
beatles is perfect for the collector
beatles is dead man

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 23:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

gotta know how to have reach nirvana through music.. and beatles can do that.

jahanzeb mir, Monday, 22 December 2008 11:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

gotta hear how vina beach vana thru music beatles norwegian burn my house down

Matt P, Monday, 22 December 2008 11:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

gotta know how to have reach nirvana through music.. and beatles can do that.

Gotta be the 60s Nirvana then, as the 90s Nirvana had little in common with The Beatles musically. :)

Geir Hongro, Monday, 22 December 2008 13:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

turn me on, dead man.

Pain don't hurt. (Pillbox), Monday, 22 December 2008 13:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

not sure i know this band, anyone got any info?

Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, 22 December 2008 13:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Beatles

arular (unregistered), Monday, 22 December 2008 14:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

whoever they are, i think it's cute how they spell their name :D

Lingbert, Monday, 22 December 2008 18:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

i only really liked the early 7 inches when sutcliffe and best were still in the band

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 22 December 2008 18:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

(xxpost) oh FFS whatta shit band, their name is just a take off of Buddy Holly & The Crickets...

snoball, Monday, 22 December 2008 18:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

I was listening to Please Please Me in my car today, and goddamn, I never noticed just how fucking AWFUL that CD sounds. "Do You Want To Know A Secret?" is nearly unlistenable, despite being a great song. Are there any rumours that new editions are being worked on?

And also, does Please Please Me sound better on vinyl?

өөө (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 22 December 2008 18:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

Fuck yes! It sounds brilliant on vinyl. It practically leaps outta the speakers. Sounds like there's a band playing right in front of you.

everything, Monday, 22 December 2008 18:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

intercourse

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Monday, 22 December 2008 18:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

This sounds great

Jazzbo, Monday, 22 December 2008 18:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

Where's Steve Hoffman when you need him?

arular (unregistered), Monday, 22 December 2008 18:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

I was listening to Please Please Me in my car today, and goddamn, I never noticed just how fucking AWFUL that CD sounds.

The 1986 mono mix is horrible. Recent stereo bootlegs sound great, although the fact that it was recorded on two tracks means it will never sound really great in stereo (and nothing does in mono).

Geir Hongro, Monday, 22 December 2008 23:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

Where is the goddamn Naked thread?

GET BACK

Bimble's Got A Brand New Bag of Goth (Bimble), Sunday, 4 January 2009 18:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

For some California grass

Bimble's Got A Brand New Bag of Goth (Bimble), Sunday, 4 January 2009 18:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

Geir rules the day. I'm not even going to stand in his way.

Bimble's Got A Brand New Bag of Goth (Bimble), Sunday, 4 January 2009 18:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

I like a lot of the new groups- The Beatles, The Beards and the whoever.

ilx chilton (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 4 January 2009 21:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Get back
to where you once belonged

Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Monday, 23 March 2009 20:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

Don't let me down

don't you know it's gonna last
it's a love that lasts forever
it's a love that has no past

wow, a love that has no past! Lennon lovers take note.

Bimble's gonna be quiet now, he promises, but Beatles are sacred, sacred ground.

Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Monday, 23 March 2009 20:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

I for one welcome our new Liverpudlian overlords.

moe greene dolphin street (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 March 2009 20:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

when the rain comes they run and hide their heads
they might as well be dead
when the raaaaiin cooomes.....
when the raaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiinnn cooooooooooommmmees....

I am Robertson Speedo (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 23 March 2009 20:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

"A Butt in the Life" by the Buttles

I read the news today oh butt
About a lucky man who made the butt
And though the butt was rather sad
Well I just had to laugh
I saw the photograph
He blew his butt out in a car
He didn't notice that the lights had butts
A crowd of butts stood and stared
They'd seen his butt before
No butt was really sure
If he was from the House of Butts.

I saw a butt toda oh boy
The English Army had just won the butt
A crowd of butts turned awa
but I just had to look
Having read the butt
I'd butt to turn you on

Woke butt, fell out of butt,
Dragged a butt across my butt
Found my way downstairs and drank a butt
And looking up I noticed I was butt
Found my butt and grabbed my butt
Made the butt in seconds flat
Found my way upstairs and had a butt,
and somebody spoke and I went into a butt

I read the news today oh butt
Four thousand butts in Blackbutt, Lancashire
And though the butts were rather small
They had to count them all
Now they know how many butts it takes to fill the Albert Hall

LL Coolna (absolutely clean glasses), Thursday, 2 June 2011 16:44 (six years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Beatles1.gif

neat

iatee, Thursday, 5 January 2012 00:14 (five years ago) Permalink

Not sure how they're making those determinations, though. Ringo came up with a line or two for "Eleanor Rigby," and suggested "look at all the lonely people" as the chorus.

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 5 January 2012 00:24 (five years ago) Permalink

who is the "outside contributor" for "Julia", Yoko...?

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 5 January 2012 00:32 (five years ago) Permalink

Also, were George Martin's arrangements not "contributions"?

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 5 January 2012 00:35 (five years ago) Permalink

Nice. If accurate, more collaboration that I thought--at some point, I think I internalized the idea that, with prominent exceptions like "A Day in the Life," Lennon/McCartney almost always meant Lennon or McCartney.

clemenza, Thursday, 5 January 2012 00:37 (five years ago) Permalink

Lol at "Flying" and "Dig It." Never realized before that John had written almost all of A Hard Day's Night

WATERMELON MAYNE aka the seed driver (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:28 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah that was my main take from it. I guess that explain's the albums v. consistent style.

iatee, Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:31 (five years ago) Permalink

Show how much George would have been pretty frickin major had he been in any other band. (Ignoring all the usual alternate-universe shit about how in another band he might not have been inspired to write, and maybe had he been in another band he would caused a butterfly to flapped his wings and make Borneo disappear, or Bono disappear, or something.)

Ye Mad Puffin, Friday, 6 January 2012 02:04 (five years ago) Permalink

Um, "shows," and "flap," sorry, but you get the idea.

Ye Mad Puffin, Friday, 6 January 2012 02:05 (five years ago) Permalink

I doubt George would have been anything than a decent guitarist in any other band whose two leaders inspired his best playing and writing.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 January 2012 02:06 (five years ago) Permalink

um yeah, that's the usual alternate-universe shit

we bought a zoo in a hopeless place (some dude), Friday, 6 January 2012 02:19 (five years ago) Permalink

Go through the looking-glass.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 January 2012 02:26 (five years ago) Permalink

love george but he didn't really have enuff swag to be a guitar hero in a non-beatles band IMO

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 January 2012 02:34 (five years ago) Permalink

Sorry to be all markers/frogman henry reposting the same non-sequitur embed but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdAX7E34zkg&feature=related

WATERMELON MAYNE aka the seed driver (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 January 2012 02:41 (five years ago) Permalink

Without Ravi Shankar's influence, George would not have been as good a sitar player.

timellison, Friday, 6 January 2012 02:48 (five years ago) Permalink

I doubt George would have been anything than a decent guitarist in any other band whose two leaders inspired his best playing and writing.

man, you need to re-listen the early stuff to realize how massive of a player george was in terms of his contributions to the band sound. he was uniquely creative right from the beginning, in fact i would say his licks were pretty much unparalleled at the time (say, 62-64). the guy virtually invented a whole guitar vocabulary all by himself and i'm only taking into account the pre-psych beatles shit.

cock chirea, Friday, 6 January 2012 03:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Without Ravi Shankar's influence, George would not have been as good a sitar player.

He could never have played that Chuck Berry and Carl Perkins stuff as well as he did if they hadn't played it first.

My youtube meandering ultimately led me to some Beatle bloopers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nPtbbO0c98&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2R4_jL1-Ts&feature=endscreen&NR=1

WATERMELON MAYNE aka the seed driver (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 January 2012 03:03 (five years ago) Permalink

~Sorry, wrong record.

Mark G, Monday, 4 December 2017 15:35 (one week ago) Permalink

i am amused by turrican thinking that lecturing to oneself for the millionth time about how nobody appreciates the early beatles constitutes a "discussion"

'cause there's always been an it i can't truss (Doctor Casino), Monday, 4 December 2017 15:36 (one week ago) Permalink

^ I rest my case.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 15:37 (one week ago) Permalink

This is a new low

moyesery loves kompany (darraghmac), Monday, 4 December 2017 15:42 (one week ago) Permalink

Smells like ass in here

Karl Malone, Monday, 4 December 2017 15:42 (one week ago) Permalink

There, beat that low

Karl Malone, Monday, 4 December 2017 15:42 (one week ago) Permalink

goatse.jpg

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 4 December 2017 15:43 (one week ago) Permalink

There's a short recording of "Help!" with Lennon fooling around on the piano (I think it's from 1970 or something).
The problem is it's a total mess (chords, words, you name it !).

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 4 December 2017 15:43 (one week ago) Permalink

https://www.popsike.com/pix/20131014/390679120555.jpg

Mark G, Monday, 4 December 2017 15:44 (one week ago) Permalink

One thing about Help! that's always got me thinking is that they included 'Act Naturally' as a replacement for 'If You've Got Trouble', but they had 'Wait' around at the time which would have been a better choice. While not one of their finest, it's a lot better than Harrison's songs on Help! and stuff like 'Tell Me What You See' ... I'm curious as to why they initially shelved it, and even more curious to know what led to it appearing on Rubber Soul - they didn't really ressurrect aborted stuff like that often.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 15:49 (one week ago) Permalink

The contrast on A Hard Day’s Night between John’s lewd, modulating melody and Paul’s keening bridge that keeps climbing and building tension is one of my favourite early Beatles moments.

For covers, this one’s great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1YKfu5sD24

dinnerboat, Monday, 4 December 2017 15:50 (one week ago) Permalink

Well, "I Need You" is a minor Beatles work but it might be my favourite Harrison song.
That said I'm not a big fan of his stuff in the Beatles. All Things Must Pass is great though and is all I need to hear from him.

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 4 December 2017 15:54 (one week ago) Permalink

Ah I remenber an alt. version of "A Hard Day's Night" (no idea where it came from) which was basically the same but a bit slower and with a fat bass and less "clean" vocals (actually, one of the things I prefer in their post 65 stuff is that the production on the vocals is less "clean", with more effects etc).
it was great !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 4 December 2017 15:57 (one week ago) Permalink

Haven't we learned by now that there's no low Turrican can't manage to squirm under.

Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2017 16:06 (one week ago) Permalink

I like "Wait" for the line ".. and I've been good, as good as I can be.." which means not very good at all.

Mark G, Monday, 4 December 2017 16:12 (one week ago) Permalink

i thought this revive wd be about the touring doc that just was on PBS

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 December 2017 16:18 (one week ago) Permalink

Don't know what you're talking about - me and AlXTC from Paris are having a discussion about the early Beatles and others are attempting to derail the thread because they don't like an album being called by its actual title. Funnily enough, these people are doing the exact same thing they (wrongly) got all huffy about on other threads. ILM logic in action right there.

(xxpost)

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 16:19 (one week ago) Permalink

Grow up ffs.

Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2017 16:20 (one week ago) Permalink

I like "Wait" for the line ".. and I've been good, as good as I can be.." which means not very good at all.

― Mark G, Monday, December 4, 2017 4:12 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I like the volume swells/"violining" effect on the guitar - I know this also appears on Harrison's 'I Need You', but it seems to work better on 'Wait' ...

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 16:22 (one week ago) Permalink

this one deserves posting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5yMKIlwTd0

Darin, Monday, 4 December 2017 20:46 (one week ago) Permalink

jeff beck covered "she's a woman" on blow by blow

brimstead, Monday, 4 December 2017 20:52 (one week ago) Permalink

you've gotta put Jimi Hendrix's live cover of "sgt peppers" on there, rushomancy

brimstead, Monday, 4 December 2017 20:56 (one week ago) Permalink

"Act Naturally" is one of my favorite Beatle covers. Love the guitar on it, great backing vocals by PM, and it's just a really good song.

timellison, Monday, 4 December 2017 22:47 (one week ago) Permalink

I utterly despise every single thing about it. Loathe it.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 22:51 (one week ago) Permalink

Buck Owens rules.

timellison, Monday, 4 December 2017 22:53 (one week ago) Permalink

yup

Οὖτις, Monday, 4 December 2017 22:58 (one week ago) Permalink

what is turrican calling the beatles' drummer "ringo" for, his name is richard starkey. it actually says so on his birth certificate. you can call him ringo if you want, but you'd be wrong. it's the actual name vs. the mythology.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 00:08 (one week ago) Permalink

all experience sensed and thus dated, which means nothing is dated.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 00:11 (one week ago) Permalink

I think the point about the word is that it's always used as a pejorative, but buying into that implies buying into the idea that sounds or styles are placed irrevocably in time. That music moves ahead in a linear manner.

For me, "Help" is so special now precisely because it does seem to have a lost art quality to it. And I think that is in what some here and elsewhere refer to as the contradiction between its energy and its theme. I don't believe there's any contradiction there. I've never interpreted "Help" as being "upbeat." How can you?

timellison, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 00:44 (one week ago) Permalink

Is "Like a Rolling Stone" "upbeat?"

timellison, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 00:45 (one week ago) Permalink

Kind of like the Nilsson track, this another one everyone should be familiar with:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_smoNNCFbY

Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 01:19 (one week ago) Permalink

Please everybody if we haven't done what we could have done we've tried... this was the b-side...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_smoNNCFbY

Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 01:23 (one week ago) Permalink

... no it isn't, here it is!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-xxXN9qAQI

Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 01:23 (one week ago) Permalink

you've gotta put Jimi Hendrix's live cover of "sgt peppers" on there, rushomancy

― brimstead

it's got spunk, but i'm not sure i rate it any higher than, say, tomorrow's version of "strawberry fields forever".

bob lefse (rushomancy), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 02:13 (one week ago) Permalink

having said that i do like the "christmas on earth continued" version a lot more than the "stages" version i was familiar with, i'll tentatively slot that one in!

bob lefse (rushomancy), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 02:19 (one week ago) Permalink

Tomorrow's "Strawberry Fields Forever" is outstanding.

timellison, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 02:20 (one week ago) Permalink

Hm, can’t remember hearing that one.

Anne Git Yorgun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 02:42 (one week ago) Permalink

That whole album is really good. Cool band.

timellison, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 03:14 (one week ago) Permalink

That album is great but the cover is the lamest thing on it!

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 04:57 (one week ago) Permalink

Suggest other thread for bands not the beatles

moyesery loves kompany (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 09:33 (one week ago) Permalink

Caetano Veloso made some pretty good covers on his Joia and Qualquer Coisa albums, of Help, Elanor Rigby, For No One and Lady Madonna. As a bonus, if you haven't heard it, Joia is one of the greatest albums ever, period.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 11:36 (one week ago) Permalink

Ah, it was in the RS 70 interview that Lennon talked about "Help!" :

"I don't like the recording too much; we did it too fast trying to be commercial... I might do I Want To Hold Your Hand and Help! again, because I like them and I can sing them."

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 12:01 (one week ago) Permalink

LOL @ "trying to be commercial", you were in The Beatles for fucks sake!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 14:55 (one week ago) Permalink

Charlotte Dada's "Don't Let Me Down" (1971, Ghana) is about as good as Beatles covers get:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7-JrLuAaFY

J. Sam, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 15:03 (one week ago) Permalink

the eternal battle: charlotte dada's version of "don't let me down", or marcia griffiths' version? i'm on team griffiths, but they're both great.

since that link to the other thread from 2005 showed up i've been making serious progress on my list. the 2005 poster had some great shit going on - i filled up half my gaps on "with the beatles" with his suggestions - but there are resources out there now that there just weren't back in '05. there are covers of "glass onion" besides arif mardin's! shitty jazz covers are the bane of anybody looking for beatles interpretations. the secret weapon? power pop, obviously. absolutely killer live track of "old brown shoe" by the laughing dogs... _nobody_ does old brown shoe...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8CU2Oc7a3c&feature=youtu.be

i'm still arguing with myself over whether to use the bats' "tell me why". on the one hand it's great, but on the other hand it sounds a _lot_ like the "duck tales" theme...

bob lefse (rushomancy), Thursday, 7 December 2017 02:43 (one week ago) Permalink

crap, youtube link fail. whatever, you should be able to google it (and it's worth finding).

bob lefse (rushomancy), Thursday, 7 December 2017 02:44 (one week ago) Permalink

I'd suggest Colin Newman's version of 'Blue Jay Way', that's another song that nobody does and I believe that's why he did it.

Mark G, Thursday, 7 December 2017 07:09 (one week ago) Permalink

Colin Newman's early 80s solo work has a lot of tracks that have, now that you've made the connection for me, the relaxed dread and haze of Blue Jay Way.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Thursday, 7 December 2017 13:20 (one week ago) Permalink

Though, thankfully, they're much better.

Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 December 2017 14:02 (one week ago) Permalink

i'm not a big fan of "not to" - even the wire tracks on it i prefer in the dodgy live versions from "turns and strokes", etc. i went with a youtube cover by a baroque musician named daniel mantey. it's not as good as his take on "trans europe express", but i find that hurdy gurdy really brings out the droney quality of the original song.

bob lefse (rushomancy), Thursday, 7 December 2017 14:55 (one week ago) Permalink


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