I have had it up to here waiting for the Beatles catalogue to be remastered

but yeah you're right it takes the fckng p-ss doesn't it?

latest word is that magical mystery tour is coming out on dvd with all sorts of extra stuff. as if the actual movie isn't like 1 big 'extra' already.

What isn't, really?

OK, why is it Paul's fault?

maybe it's a question of who's up to the job, george martin sure as heck isn't. god don't let them get ELO=guy in again.

meanwhile, this ere beatles 10-dvd anthology unofficial bootleg edition can be yours for $150 :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Original-BEATLES-Anthology-Directors-Cut-Real-10-DVDs_W0QQitemZ6430061859QQcategoryZ617QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

must say i'm tempted

That said, Macca, Ono, the Harrison family, and Da Ringosta can take their time settling this. I plan to finally digitize and sell off the CDs while I can get 'em for at least $4+ each back.

http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,70658-0.html?tw=rss.index

But it's not wrong to continue to sell them on cd?

Agree re Past Masters/Anthology but they're such cash cows that they're not going to do it.

Ah yes, the Beatles. I say buy the albums.

It would be nice if they released the red and blue anthologies so that they were in modern slimline 2CD cases rather than the FUCKING MASSIVE and HORRIBLE ones that they are in now.

Are the people not interested in paying for pricey new editions of things really the target market for remastered versions of CDs that are available in droves in used CD stores the world over?

Seriously, I don't see what's so much better (and less cash-cow-ish) about retaining Past Masters and Anthology. OK, so it's kind of cool to have all the singles in one place, but it also robs them of context AND presents a somewhat confusing picture for buyers, who can't figure out which album it is that has "I Want To Hold Your Hand" on it. The PM sets are also really oddly-balanced, anyway - not quite a greatest hits, not quite an odds-and-sods. The Anthologies are just plain obnoxious, especially the first one with all the talky-talky bits.

I guess I'm just coming from a perspective where, if they just remaster the CDs I'll take a pass because I have the LPs already. But if they sweeten the deal I just might think it over, at least for a couple, assuming they went ahead and added more outtake/live stuff. Granted, they would still be kind of weirdly-sequenced albums with one or two singles at the front followed by a bunch of obscurities.... okay, maybe keep Past Masters after all. But I REALLY think it makes more sense to get the unreleased and live material wedded on to the appropriate albums - if nothing else, it means getting MORE of it, right?

What is an example where he has ever done this?

Secondly, Paul has little need to turn himself up anyway. He took a lot of care, recording his bass lines on a single track and spent ages getting the sound right. Why not? It's his friggin songs for fuxake!

anthology 2 is the best, what with the stoned cracking-up version of and your bird can sing and the gorgeous demos of strawberry fields. 3 is good for the white album stuff, and 1 is probably the only time any americans (me included) will ever hear any morecambe and wise.

Well, they are getting slightly more plentiful. In fact, I got most of my collection used. But, then again, I've been lucky. The worst thing about used Beatle cds is that stores priced higher than average (i.e. in the US 10-12 dollars vs. 7-9). Shopping around helps, and the prices have leveled off (and no doubt will continue)

I will concur regarding the Anthologies and the BBC, but--to cite my earlier post--alot of the people who bought them probably realized that they didn't listen to them as much as the regular LPs.

Neil Aspinall is probably the one to blame.

Anyway, seems like some good news is finally coming up.

While I agree that they need remastering, I don't neccessarily agree with your version of what they sounded like. The first four, sure, but the rest, particularly from "Sgt. Pepper" onwards, used state of the art remastering technology at the time, and sounded really impressive back then.

Only this is 20 years ago and a lot has happened since then.

I think the Anthologies are a pretty good distillation of the best stuff that makes up the two major bootleg series (ultra rare trax and, uh, whatever the other one is called; they have most of the same stuff on them). I could do w/out the talking on the first cd.

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i mean it does take the piss doesn't it?

lo-lo-lo-looooots of piss, sir! :(

I bought Help for £1 in a charity shop the other week. It was cheap because the cover was ripped (and taped up again) and the vinyl's a bit crackly, but it's not scratched at all. Even with the crackles it sounds great - a lot better than the CD versions, The Night Before especially gaining an awful lot of character and energy. I too am amazed there's no proper CD remaster, I guess because people are still buying the current shonky versions.

This footage
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=compleat+beatles
of 'The Compleat Beatles' (snappy 1984 cheaply-made proto-ANTHOLOGY movie, shot on film and narrated by Malcolm Mcdowell) is
making me anticipate this happening all the more.

It will happen before or since, but apparently at still takes time.

I expected they'd at least do "Sgt. Pepper" in June this year to coincide with its 40th anniversary, but they did't.

But at least, with the current trend for remasters, the ultimate edition will be better. I hope they will do like The Bee Gees and Monkees remasters, and put out 2CDs with the stereo version + bonus tracks in stereo on one and the mono version + bonus tracks in mono on the other one.

Thought this doc was amazing!

why has there been no outrage at the audio of “Dehra Dun” being flown in at the start of the reminiscences of India segment? It was even treated to sound as if it came from the Get Back recordings.
(I’m joking. Kind of.)

uh I should have mentioned it was flown in from one of the 90s interviews in Anthology for that to make sense

I can't remember the version that was played in the doc but it definitely dates from the India trip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL0W1Y6ZDME

Oh for sure (and that's an outfake over Harrison's home demo) but the version with McCartney improvising an accompaniment is from the Anthology interviews at Friar Park - I dunno why there's so much echo on this clip, it must be to avoid copyright detection:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxXuvN8L5AI

oh - the timecode link got snipped off, go to 7:00 to see it

Timecode always gets snipped here.

what do you mean that's an outfake?

I think it means someone else has added extra instrumentation over the top of the original demo but I listened to the officially released demo on the deluxe ATMP and it sounded similar to me so idk

I'd heard another outfake and didn't know there was one on the ATMP, so that's my bad. Beatles outfakes are rife tho.

*the deluxe ATMP

Beatles outfakes are rife tho

Including on official releases, you could argue, but I'll always love this, regardless:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFDyXBU2fq8

equizolls
2 weeks ago
the lyrics of Maxwell's Silver Hammer are about the forensic and autopsy of paul mccartney, and Maxwell is the name of the doctor couldnt save mccartney after the accident> Maxwell Edison, majoring in medicine Maxwell stands alone
Painting testimonial pictures,
Rose and Valerie, screaming from the gallery

Say he must go free (Maxwell must go free)
The judge does not agree, and he tells them so

Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that both Get Back and McCartney 3,2,1 are nominated in the ILX TV poll, with voting ending this weekend:

ILX's Best Television of 2021 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends After January 31, 2022

If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (3 minimum, 25 maximum, ranked by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail. It'll take five minutes; get to it!

Good piece on "Get Back":

https://ianleslie.substack.com/p/the-banality-of-genius-notes-on-peter

that was great

Amazing article. Links to another one

https://theymaybeparted.com/2013/08/14/jan-7-on-their-own-at-the-holiday-camp/

Paul (talking over George): See nowadays, you’ve grown up and you don’t have to do that anymore. You don’t have to put the pancake on and go out in front and sweat and shake our heads because we’re not that anymore. We’ve grown up a bit.

George: And we’ve done that anyway.

Paul:What I mean is, we did it, the but it doesn’t mean to do it again means to do all that. For him (John) to do it, he has to do a thing in a black bag with Yoko. And you’re doing it.

Several voices correct Paul.

“White bag,” he says.

What's the bag here? Heroin?

chocolate cake, iirc

wait really?

ah ok, so the Ballad of John and Yoko

Bagism?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagism

woah never heard of that. wild.

They moved only twice in 45 minutes, hunkering further down. This was a strong challenge to the audience.

this is beautiful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qfv7AewNVc

I do not think this was a good idea at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZTIVgazJ6Y

WT…?

Surprisingly not as bad as “Free As A Bird”

Surprisingly not as bad as “Free As A Bird”

Sorry for the double post, have no idea why my phone did that

Not as good as "Real Love."

Don't be alarmed, they'll both be holograms soon.

the 1960s were actually over 400 "real-time" years ago. this will become later on

400 years…and it’s your bloody Yellow Submarine all over again

xxp two down, two to go

Let me know when he starts doing "The Girl Is Mine".

Let me know when he starts doing "The Girl Is Mine".

Don't be alarmed, they'll *both* be holograms soon.

Don’t see the harm in this one, frankly. They’re just playing along to IMAX footage, it doesn’t strike me as tacky as a hologram.

yeah this doesn't bother me, aside from how rough mccartney is sounding on the first show of this tour. Seeing him next week, will report back.

Better he should've invited Yoko along on tour to sit on his amp throughout

that would be something
― AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, April 30, 2022 5:32 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Meet ya in the falling rain, momma?

I finished this last week and thoroughly enjoyed myself. I thought I'd reached 'the end' of the Beatles but this dragged me into a whole other layer of immersion - much in the same way this thread has. A great read and damn you lot know a lot about the Beatles.

There was a discussion about a Sylvia Townsend Warner novel on the books thread. It's a novel set in the 14th century and sort of meanders through the lives of a bunch of nuns in a monastery. Someone described the experience of reading as 'needing to check in with the nuns' and that's what Get Back became for me - like there was a separate reality running alongside my own and I could access it through this portal whenever I wanted or needed to. The banality became part of the point but, equally, sections of it were incredibly moving. And goddamn, pipe the euphoria of the rooftop gig straight into my veins.

Dude is 80 and his mate died 42 years ago and, like us, he probably spent all of Xmas watching Get Back, so I'm absolutely fine with this. You think he doesn't realise these are his sunset years, that this is his farewell jaunt? Let him do what he wants. Frog Chorus the fuck out of this shit. He's Paul McCartney, he was a Beatle, let him reside within his excellence.

Insane to think this guy has been gigging for 65+ years.

He gets away with it because he can legit look at the footage and say ‘Heh, that was all my idea’.

Saw this happen live last week and it was great, really. Very well synched up, Paul stood with his back to the audience for most of that Lennon clip watching it, and it was only for the second half of the one song. I'm a pretty big Macca defender, I'll say again: he wouldn't be doing this stuff if it wasn't giving him some kind of spiritual lift and adding joy to his life. He doesn't need to tour, he doesn't need any money, he very clearly thoroughly loves what he's doing.

Very true. Though that would be crazy af if he needed to tour. Like he blew all his money on the finest, rarest marijuana or something.

Picturing ne'er-do-well Paul hitting up Stella to float him on a loan--"Ringo said he'll 'ave me knees broken!"

There's a video of Dana Carvey's stand-up somewhere (pre-SNL) where he does a hilarious McCartney impression:

"Linda, I lost me wallet! It had a million dollars in it...I'd hate to back to the bank to get another million."