I have had it up to here waiting for the Beatles catalogue to be remastered

but yeah you're right it takes the fckng p-ss doesn't it?

latest word is that magical mystery tour is coming out on dvd with all sorts of extra stuff. as if the actual movie isn't like 1 big 'extra' already.

What isn't, really?

OK, why is it Paul's fault?

maybe it's a question of who's up to the job, george martin sure as heck isn't. god don't let them get ELO=guy in again.

meanwhile, this ere beatles 10-dvd anthology unofficial bootleg edition can be yours for $150 :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Original-BEATLES-Anthology-Directors-Cut-Real-10-DVDs_W0QQitemZ6430061859QQcategoryZ617QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

must say i'm tempted

That said, Macca, Ono, the Harrison family, and Da Ringosta can take their time settling this. I plan to finally digitize and sell off the CDs while I can get 'em for at least $4+ each back.

http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,70658-0.html?tw=rss.index

But it's not wrong to continue to sell them on cd?

Agree re Past Masters/Anthology but they're such cash cows that they're not going to do it.

Ah yes, the Beatles. I say buy the albums.

It would be nice if they released the red and blue anthologies so that they were in modern slimline 2CD cases rather than the FUCKING MASSIVE and HORRIBLE ones that they are in now.

Are the people not interested in paying for pricey new editions of things really the target market for remastered versions of CDs that are available in droves in used CD stores the world over?

Seriously, I don't see what's so much better (and less cash-cow-ish) about retaining Past Masters and Anthology. OK, so it's kind of cool to have all the singles in one place, but it also robs them of context AND presents a somewhat confusing picture for buyers, who can't figure out which album it is that has "I Want To Hold Your Hand" on it. The PM sets are also really oddly-balanced, anyway - not quite a greatest hits, not quite an odds-and-sods. The Anthologies are just plain obnoxious, especially the first one with all the talky-talky bits.

I guess I'm just coming from a perspective where, if they just remaster the CDs I'll take a pass because I have the LPs already. But if they sweeten the deal I just might think it over, at least for a couple, assuming they went ahead and added more outtake/live stuff. Granted, they would still be kind of weirdly-sequenced albums with one or two singles at the front followed by a bunch of obscurities.... okay, maybe keep Past Masters after all. But I REALLY think it makes more sense to get the unreleased and live material wedded on to the appropriate albums - if nothing else, it means getting MORE of it, right?

What is an example where he has ever done this?

Secondly, Paul has little need to turn himself up anyway. He took a lot of care, recording his bass lines on a single track and spent ages getting the sound right. Why not? It's his friggin songs for fuxake!

anthology 2 is the best, what with the stoned cracking-up version of and your bird can sing and the gorgeous demos of strawberry fields. 3 is good for the white album stuff, and 1 is probably the only time any americans (me included) will ever hear any morecambe and wise.

Well, they are getting slightly more plentiful. In fact, I got most of my collection used. But, then again, I've been lucky. The worst thing about used Beatle cds is that stores priced higher than average (i.e. in the US 10-12 dollars vs. 7-9). Shopping around helps, and the prices have leveled off (and no doubt will continue)

I will concur regarding the Anthologies and the BBC, but--to cite my earlier post--alot of the people who bought them probably realized that they didn't listen to them as much as the regular LPs.

Neil Aspinall is probably the one to blame.

Anyway, seems like some good news is finally coming up.

While I agree that they need remastering, I don't neccessarily agree with your version of what they sounded like. The first four, sure, but the rest, particularly from "Sgt. Pepper" onwards, used state of the art remastering technology at the time, and sounded really impressive back then.

Only this is 20 years ago and a lot has happened since then.

I think the Anthologies are a pretty good distillation of the best stuff that makes up the two major bootleg series (ultra rare trax and, uh, whatever the other one is called; they have most of the same stuff on them). I could do w/out the talking on the first cd.

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i mean it does take the piss doesn't it?

lo-lo-lo-looooots of piss, sir! :(

I bought Help for £1 in a charity shop the other week. It was cheap because the cover was ripped (and taped up again) and the vinyl's a bit crackly, but it's not scratched at all. Even with the crackles it sounds great - a lot better than the CD versions, The Night Before especially gaining an awful lot of character and energy. I too am amazed there's no proper CD remaster, I guess because people are still buying the current shonky versions.

This footage
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=compleat+beatles
of 'The Compleat Beatles' (snappy 1984 cheaply-made proto-ANTHOLOGY movie, shot on film and narrated by Malcolm Mcdowell) is
making me anticipate this happening all the more.

It will happen before or since, but apparently at still takes time.

I expected they'd at least do "Sgt. Pepper" in June this year to coincide with its 40th anniversary, but they did't.

But at least, with the current trend for remasters, the ultimate edition will be better. I hope they will do like The Bee Gees and Monkees remasters, and put out 2CDs with the stereo version + bonus tracks in stereo on one and the mono version + bonus tracks in mono on the other one.

Okay, just started poking around in this and found the the melody of “Jealous Guy” in something called “Child of Nature,” which I am sure somebody posted about way upthread but sorry, tl;dr.

Okay, did find mention of the song on this thread and mention of the similarity of the melody on various other threads now that I looked but it has um, passed me by, until now.

yeah it's an early version

jealous guy is an improvement

The "I'm one of nature's children" line is so awkward

Yeah. Still having to choose between « Mother nature’s child » and « Child of nature » to keep on an album is a tough choice !

Okay, started listening at the beginning and, while for the most part I don’t mind or actively like the new mixes so far, “I Will” was really bugging me with its overcooked jug band high jinks.

Are the backing vocals on “Helter Skelter” boosted? Almost sounds like the Edwin Hawkins Singers on “Lay Down (Candles in the Rain).”

Holy hell, “(You’re So Square) Baby I Don’t Care” sounds like Hüsker Dü.

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I thought the same thing, but didn't want to play to type here.

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yeah and there's one specific "da da da da" that is very loud : I wonder why (maybe it's also louder in the original mix ?) but it's kinda fun in the ott aspect of the song.

I'm liking most of this but the extreme foregrounding of the bass on some of these songs is terrible. Why it seemed like a good idea to do that at the expense of the sharp edges and sheer weirdness of Happiness is a Warm Gun e.g. is ???. It sounds like a YouTube bass tutorial.

For all his self consciousness it's like Paul still doesn't get that burnishing his legacy = dialing it down in general. Large swaths of this mix only put me in mind of the guy pleading with his band to dress up like candy shop soldiers on the record before it.

I don't really hear a massive bass boost; in some instances (like "Glass Onion"), the bass is quieter than on the original mix. And where it is loud, it doesn't overwhelm (unlike the "Dear Prudence" drums, which are needlessly loud).

The one serious disappointment to me is that Ringo's scream in "Helter Skelter," and the subsequent guitar clang, is much lower than on the original mix. Of all the elements on that album to tone down, why that?

I think on HIAWG and some other tracks it's just loud enough to have a newly distinct profile that isn't necessarily in service to the song. Felt this way abt a lot of the new Pepper tracks, too...sometimes there is something good in the smearing of sounds!

I felt Happiness Is A Warm Gun missed the smeariness too. It felt like a band performing a weird song rather than a crazy collage.

Hey, is the 4LP reissue limited at all? am jonesing for it but not sure when I'll be able to afford it in the near-ish future

DANG, the remix of "A Day in the Life" is good.

yea they did a great job on the pepper one imo

What I am assuming is the most recent remastering of the mono mix of Sgt. Pepper - from the recent set - is not on Spotify, but is, in fact, on Youtube (though not identified as such):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwwABrNLvFs&list=PL65eY6eS8rRz25y0p_Li96bhD8Fhaztgg

Abbey Road Deluxe out September 27.

ABBEY ROAD REVISITED WITH SPECIAL ANNIVERSARY RELEASES! New mixes in stereo, 5.1 surround, and Dolby Atmos + previously unreleased session recordings and demos. Available everywhere 27th September 2019. Pre-order: https://t.co/qWXolZuh0w #AbbeyRoad pic.twitter.com/A1xilvQzOy

— The Beatles (@thebeatles) August 8, 2019

Looking forward to it while bracing myself. It's near-perfect, recorded on an 8-track transistor board with mono never even an option. What're they going to do, make the anvil hits louder?

oh shit

« Something » is on Spotify

I've had it up to here with the Beatles catalogue being remastered

ha ha ha

HOW ABOUT A NEW MIX OF RUBBER SOUL, GODDAMMIT!

**** stereo mix, I mean

Increasingly, I'm down on the idea. Rubber Soul was remixed in 1987 and if another mix is not going to do something new with the tracks - as was the case with Yellow Submarine Songtrack now twenty years ago - I don't find the project to be exciting.

Although I did like the Sgt. Pepper one. I'll keep an open mind and will listen to the White Album one again sometime.

Damn, this remastering of Something sounds really good to me.

Really ? I don’t find it very different. That said I’m not a big fan of Abbey Road so not really excited by this.
Rubber Soul and Revolver, on the other hand...

I liked both the Pepper and white album projects a lot (white album more than pepper). Abby Road is an almost perfect sounding album already, so interested to see what this does. More interested in the outtakes as usual.

gave all three a listen, all three sound amazing.

Don't remember the cymbal action on the bridge being that upfront.

I don’t even care about how it sounds, I just want the damn outtakes!

^^^

why with all the PR is there no actual tracklisting

It's basically gonna be all the Maxwell's takes, right?

here's the tracklisting of all the various versions

SUPER DELUXE [3CD+1Blu-ray set; digital audio collection]

CD ONE: 2019 Stereo Mix

1. Come Together

2. Something

3. Maxwell’s Silver Hammer

4. Oh! Darling

5. Octopus’s Garden

6. I Want You (She’s So Heavy)

7. Here Comes The Sun

8. Because

9. You Never Give Me Your Money

10. Sun King

11. Mean Mr Mustard

12. Polythene Pam

13. She Came In Through The Bathroom Window

14. Golden Slumbers

15. Carry That Weight

16. The End

17. Her Majesty

CD TWO: Sessions

1. I Want You (She’s So Heavy) (Trident Recording Session & Reduction Mix)

2. Goodbye (Home Demo)

3. Something (Studio Demo)

4. The Ballad Of John And Yoko (Take 7)

5. Old Brown Shoe (Take 2)

6. Oh! Darling (Take 4)

7. Octopus’s Garden (Take 9)

8. You Never Give Me Your Money (Take 36)

9. Her Majesty (Takes 1–3)

10. Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight (Takes 1–3 / Medley)

11. Here Comes The Sun (Take 9)

12. Maxwell’s Silver Hammer (Take 12)

CD THREE: Sessions

1. Come Together (Take 5)

2. The End (Take 3)

3. Come And Get It (Studio Demo)

4. Sun King (Take 20)

5. Mean Mr Mustard (Take 20)

6. Polythene Pam (Take 27)

7. She Came In Through The Bathroom Window (Take 27)

8. Because (Take 1 – Instrumental)

9. The Long One (Trial Edit & Mix – 30 July 1969)

(Medley: You Never Give Me Your Money, Sun King, Mean Mr Mustard, Her Majesty, Polythene Pam, She Came In Through The Bathroom Window, Golden Slumbers, Carry That Weight, The End)

10. Something (Take 39 – Instrumental – Strings Only)

11. Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight (Take 17 – Instrumental – Strings & Brass Only)

BLU-RAY: Abbey Road

Audio Features:

- Dolby Atmos

- 96kHz/24 bit DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1

- 96kHz/24 bit High Res Stereo (2019 Stereo Mix)

DELUXE 3LP VINYL BOX SET (limited edition)

LP ONE: Side 1 (2019 Stereo Mix)

1. Come Together

2. Something

3. Maxwell’s Silver Hammer

4. Oh! Darling

5. Octopus’s Garden

6. I Want You (She’s So Heavy)

LP ONE: Side 2 (2019 Stereo Mix)

1. Here Comes The Sun

2. Because

3. You Never Give Me Your Money

4. Sun King

5. Mean Mr Mustard

6. Polythene Pam

7. She Came In Through The Bathroom Window

8. Golden Slumbers

9. Carry That Weight

10. The End

11. Her Majesty

LP TWO: Side 1 (Sessions)

1. I Want You (She’s So Heavy) (Trident Recording Session and Reduction Mix)

2. Goodbye (Home Demo)

3. Something (Studio Demo)

4. The Ballad Of John And Yoko (Take 7)

5. Old Brown Shoe (Take 2)

LP TWO: Side 2 (Sessions)

1. Oh! Darling (Take 4)

2. Octopus’s Garden (Take 9)

3. You Never Give Me Your Money (Take 36)

4. Her Majesty (Takes 1–3)

5. Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight (Takes 1–3) / Medley)

6. Here Comes The Sun (Take 9)

7. Maxwell’s Silver Hammer (Take 12)

LP THREE: Side 1 (Sessions)

1. Come Together (Take 5)

2. The End (Take 3)

3. Come and Get It (Studio Demo)

4. Sun King (Take 20)

5. Mean Mr Mustard (Take 20)

6. Polythene Pam (Take 27)

7. She Came In Through The Bathroom Window (Take 27)

8. Because (Take 1 Instrumental)

LP THREE: Side 2 (Sessions)

1. The Long One (Trial Edit & Mix – 30 July 1969)

2. Something (Take 39 – Instrumental – Strings Only)

3. Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight (Take 17 – Instrumental – Strings & Brass Only)

DELUXE 2CD

CD ONE: 2019 Stereo Mix

CD TWO: Sessions

1. Come Together (Take 5)

2. Something (Studio Demo)

3. Maxwell’s Silver Hammer (Take 12)

4. Oh! Darling (Take 4)

5. Octopus’s Garden (Take 9)

6. I Want You (She’s So Heavy) (Trident Recording Session & Reduction Mix)

7. Here Comes The Sun (Take 9)

8. Because (Take 1 Instrumental)

9. You Never Give Me Your Money (Take 36)

10. Sun King (Take 20)

11. Mean Mr Mustard (Take 20)

12. Polythene Pam (Take 27)

13. She Came In Through The Bathroom Window (Take 27)

14. Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight (Takes 1–3 / Medley)

15. The End (Take 3)

16. Her Majesty (Takes 1–3)

STANDARD [1CD; digital; 1LP vinyl; limited edition 1LP picture disc vinyl]

2019 Stereo Mix

huh, so just one officially unreleased song eh ("Goodbye")

It's near-perfect, recorded on an 8-track transistor board with mono never even an option. What're they going to do, make the anvil hits louder?

Listening to the album rn, and judging by the new "Something", I think alot of work is going to be done on pushing up the drums and cymbals.

Also: Never thought about it before, but the original mix sounds like concessions were made to accommodate playback on mono devices, which be removed in the new version.

huh, so just one officially unreleased song eh ("Goodbye")
were there any other things rumored? i don't think they did stuff during these sessions that would end up on their various solo albums ... might be wrong though.

Madman, Watching Rainbows...? some of George's ATMP songs? Maybe those were Let It Be sessions.

the original mix sounds like concessions were made to accommodate playback on mono devices

I remember hearing the orchestra on “The End” for the first time on Anthology 3.

Didn’t “Something” originally have a long coda, cut from the released version, that Lennon later repurposed for “Remember”?

(I’ve never heard it, just remember reading about it.)

That's definitely mentioned in Revolution In The Head and I'm pretty sure it shows up on a bootleg but the second part I might just have imagined.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceNvbYZ2p8o

Is it just me or is the bass playing on this way sloppier than you'd expect? Also, Paul's trying too hard on Something

LOL wow, yeah never really noticed that on the song before but yeesh, dial it back a notch bud

Harrison said rhe same thing iirc

Yeah, George said he wished he’d gotten Willie Weeks to play on it.

The strings are more prominent on this new Something. That and all the string/instrumental outtakes make me wonder if Giles saw this project as a kind of tribute to his dad.

That's a bit of a reach at this stage.