I have had it up to here waiting for the Beatles catalogue to be remastered

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What's the hold up? Does anybody have any information?

fizzcaraldo (Justin M), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 22:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

up to where?

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 22:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I still listen to old LPs. Are the currently in print CD versions that horrible (and, if so, why not just buy them on vinyl)?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 22:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

it's paul's fault. bless him.

but yeah you're right it takes the fckng p-ss doesn't it?

latest word is that magical mystery tour is coming out on dvd with all sorts of extra stuff. as if the actual movie isn't like 1 big 'extra' already.


piscesboy, Wednesday, 7 September 2005 22:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"it's paul's fault"

What isn't, really?

OK, why is it Paul's fault?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 22:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

well i mean it must be paul/ EMI's dithering and arsing around that's to blame, the other fabs are either
a) dead or b) couldnt *really* care less.

maybe it's a question of who's up to the job, george martin sure as heck isn't. god don't let them get ELO=guy in again.

meanwhile, this ere beatles 10-dvd anthology unofficial bootleg edition can be yours for $150 :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Original-BEATLES-Anthology-Directors-Cut-Real-10-DVDs_W0QQitemZ6430061859QQcategoryZ617QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

must say i'm tempted

piscesboy, Wednesday, 7 September 2005 23:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Well, there was that first-five-American-Beatles-albums-before-the-band-demanded-UK-US-consistency-in-the-tracklistings box set which was some sort of start...although the purist in me rather just have proper remasters/issues of the original British albums/track listings w/ the surrounding singles as bonus tracks.

That said, Macca, Ono, the Harrison family, and Da Ringosta can take their time settling this. I plan to finally digitize and sell off the CDs while I can get 'em for at least $4+ each back.

donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 23:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...
Looks like it's coming:

http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,70658-0.html?tw=rss.index

Brakhage (brakhage), Thursday, 13 April 2006 17:01 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Vague but sort of promising, I guess. The catalog does need CD remastering, badly, as the in-print CDs (except Let It Be Naked, and maybe that Yellow Submarine "songtrack" from a few years ago?) are all from that late-80s batch of early-generation CDs that gave CDs such a bad name. Mind you, I do think it's a wasted opportunity if they don't take the chance to delete Past Masters and Anthology, and just put all the singles and bonus stuff on second discs packed with the remasters...

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 13 April 2006 18:10 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"I think it would be wrong to offer downloads of the old masters when I am making new masters," he said in a written statement submitted to the High Court in London earlier this month.

But it's not wrong to continue to sell them on cd?

Agree re Past Masters/Anthology but they're such cash cows that they're not going to do it.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 13 April 2006 18:26 (twelve years ago) Permalink

god remember the whole "anthology" phenomenon? those were awful.

amateurist0, Thursday, 13 April 2006 18:28 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I like the Past Masters CDs. Don't like the idea of Beatle albums being treated as mere collections of electronic data stuffed onto a compact disc. The problem, of course, is that CDs are too expensive. (Solution: buy old LPs.)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 13 April 2006 18:31 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I kind of like the anthologies sets, too, especially the first one.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 13 April 2006 18:31 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the anthologies are great. Second one for me, though.

everything, Thursday, 13 April 2006 18:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

A good thing about the "anthologies" is they are a good depository for the alternate mixes/takes etc., which--let's be realistic here--most people really don't want to hear (or have piggy-backed onto pricey new editions).

Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Thursday, 13 April 2006 18:42 (twelve years ago) Permalink

George isn't around to veto the inclusion of 'Carnival of Light' this time round.

Bob Six (bobbysix), Thursday, 13 April 2006 18:45 (twelve years ago) Permalink

there is no reason to put the singles and alternate takes on the albums. if they just follow the capitol box model and do mono and stereo mixes of the albums (with better packaging of course) that will suffice.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 13 April 2006 18:48 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I vote for Badmotorscooter.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Thursday, 13 April 2006 19:36 (twelve years ago) Permalink

How in the hell...Am I wasted?

Ah yes, the Beatles. I say buy the albums.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Thursday, 13 April 2006 19:37 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The Past Masters comps on their own are fine - I think I'd rather listen to the first one than anything up to Revolver at least. If they are to re-issue the lot, The White Album is going to need a box set all to itself.

Lotta Continua (Damian), Thursday, 13 April 2006 20:09 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm sure Paul will get it out all again eventually so he can ramp the price up to another ridiculous extreme. And turn himself up in the remastering process.

It would be nice if they released the red and blue anthologies so that they were in modern slimline 2CD cases rather than the FUCKING MASSIVE and HORRIBLE ones that they are in now.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 13 April 2006 21:53 (twelve years ago) Permalink

And in the case of the Red album, compiled on to a single, less overpriced, CD - the total running time of the 2CD set is just over 60mins. The asking price of £20-£30 is a piss take.

Michael Lambert (Michael Lambert), Thursday, 13 April 2006 22:01 (twelve years ago) Permalink

which--let's be realistic here--most people really don't want to hear (or have piggy-backed onto pricey new editions)

Are the people not interested in paying for pricey new editions of things really the target market for remastered versions of CDs that are available in droves in used CD stores the world over?

Seriously, I don't see what's so much better (and less cash-cow-ish) about retaining Past Masters and Anthology. OK, so it's kind of cool to have all the singles in one place, but it also robs them of context AND presents a somewhat confusing picture for buyers, who can't figure out which album it is that has "I Want To Hold Your Hand" on it. The PM sets are also really oddly-balanced, anyway - not quite a greatest hits, not quite an odds-and-sods. The Anthologies are just plain obnoxious, especially the first one with all the talky-talky bits.

I guess I'm just coming from a perspective where, if they just remaster the CDs I'll take a pass because I have the LPs already. But if they sweeten the deal I just might think it over, at least for a couple, assuming they went ahead and added more outtake/live stuff. Granted, they would still be kind of weirdly-sequenced albums with one or two singles at the front followed by a bunch of obscurities.... okay, maybe keep Past Masters after all. But I REALLY think it makes more sense to get the unreleased and live material wedded on to the appropriate albums - if nothing else, it means getting MORE of it, right?

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 13 April 2006 22:13 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"turn himself up in the remastering process"

What is an example where he has ever done this?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 13 April 2006 22:19 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Firstly, as any fule kno, Beatles CDs are not very common 2nd hand, except for the Anthologies and the BBC thing.

Secondly, Paul has little need to turn himself up anyway. He took a lot of care, recording his bass lines on a single track and spent ages getting the sound right. Why not? It's his friggin songs for fuxake!

everything, Thursday, 13 April 2006 22:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

wow I had no idea the Anthologies were so hated. I only have the 2nd and 3rd ones and think they're fantastic - where else would I hear this stuff? Surely its the highest quality source for "What's the New Mary Jane" or "You Know My Name Look Up the Number" and a host of other rarities.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 April 2006 22:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I don't understand it either. Maybe it's just too much Beatles for some people? I've only got a couple of tiny quibbles with them and it's usually just those times when it gets a bit self-indulgent, like those different version of the Fool On The Hill. Paul is obviously so proud of them but I just can't take it.

everything, Thursday, 13 April 2006 22:31 (twelve years ago) Permalink

ppl just like to complain about the beatles, i guess.

anthology 2 is the best, what with the stoned cracking-up version of and your bird can sing and the gorgeous demos of strawberry fields. 3 is good for the white album stuff, and 1 is probably the only time any americans (me included) will ever hear any morecambe and wise.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 13 April 2006 22:38 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"as any fule kno, Beatles CDs are not very common 2nd hand, except for the Anthologies and the BBC thing."

Well, they are getting slightly more plentiful. In fact, I got most of my collection used. But, then again, I've been lucky. The worst thing about used Beatle cds is that stores priced higher than average (i.e. in the US 10-12 dollars vs. 7-9). Shopping around helps, and the prices have leveled off (and no doubt will continue)

I will concur regarding the Anthologies and the BBC, but--to cite my earlier post--alot of the people who bought them probably realized that they didn't listen to them as much as the regular LPs.

Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Thursday, 13 April 2006 22:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The live stuff at the end of disc 1 and the beginning of disc 2 of Anthology 1 is really cool.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 13 April 2006 22:41 (twelve years ago) Permalink

it's paul's fault. bless him.

Neil Aspinall is probably the one to blame.

Anyway, seems like some good news is finally coming up.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 13 April 2006 22:59 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Man, I'm not hating on any of the contents of the Anthologies (aside from, again, the talky stuff on Anth1) - I LOVE the music on those discs, the glimpses into the recording studio, etc. And when I was 16 me and my Beatle buddy developed a substantial secret language out of the miscellaneous bits of studio chatter. "Sugar plum fairy, sugar plum fairy..."

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 13 April 2006 23:03 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Vague but sort of promising, I guess. The catalog does need CD remastering, badly, as the in-print CDs (except Let It Be Naked, and maybe that Yellow Submarine "songtrack" from a few years ago?) are all from that late-80s batch of early-generation CDs that gave CDs such a bad name.

While I agree that they need remastering, I don't neccessarily agree with your version of what they sounded like. The first four, sure, but the rest, particularly from "Sgt. Pepper" onwards, used state of the art remastering technology at the time, and sounded really impressive back then.

Only this is 20 years ago and a lot has happened since then.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 13 April 2006 23:08 (twelve years ago) Permalink

the Pepper cd sounds horrible against the vinyl version. The White Album stacks up ok but I got the 30th anniversary reissue not the original cd.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Thursday, 13 April 2006 23:25 (twelve years ago) Permalink

abby road still sounds really good. I'm sure a remastering will make it sound better but I listened to it yesterday carefully with headphones and was pretty blown away by how good it sounded.

I think the Anthologies are a pretty good distillation of the best stuff that makes up the two major bootleg series (ultra rare trax and, uh, whatever the other one is called; they have most of the same stuff on them). I could do w/out the talking on the first cd.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:44 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The Beatles are really smart to make people wait for every new issue. Keeps the interest up. When they are finally remastered it'll probably be on the cover of Time.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:58 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I assumed it was just a question of having to sort out all manner of legalities before anything happened in the Beatle world.

Lotta Continua (Damian), Friday, 14 April 2006 20:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

What was interesting about the Anthology releases/phenomenon is that a lot of kids who were first getting into the band around that time all bought the Anthologies as if they were Greatest Hits Collections. I often see volumes of the Anthologies in people's collection as the only Beatles representation. "Just the b-sides, demos, and alternative takes for you eh?" They were hoodwinked!

ryan_w, Friday, 14 April 2006 20:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

coincidentally (or perhaps not), michael jackson is also giving up his ownership of the publishing rights to sony this week, I think, to deal with some of his debt.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 14 April 2006 20:52 (twelve years ago) Permalink

yeah i can imagine people getting suckered into the anthologies as some kind of definitive look at the beatles... that bluesy version of helter skelter is really wonderful. and the acoustic "across the universe".

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dave k, Friday, 14 April 2006 20:56 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm pretty sure The White Album will always sound best on vinyl.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:57 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Are there any Beatle albums that don't?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:58 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Okay, so in that case, why does there need to be such a rush to get them remastered?

billstevejim (billstevejim), Saturday, 15 April 2006 00:59 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I for one hear absolutely no difference.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Saturday, 15 April 2006 01:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

i mean it does take the piss doesn't it?

pisces, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 12:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

lo-lo-lo-looooots of piss, sir! :(

t**t, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 15:19 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I bought Help for £1 in a charity shop the other week. It was cheap because the cover was ripped (and taped up again) and the vinyl's a bit crackly, but it's not scratched at all. Even with the crackles it sounds great - a lot better than the CD versions, The Night Before especially gaining an awful lot of character and energy. I too am amazed there's no proper CD remaster, I guess because people are still buying the current shonky versions.

The Wayward Johnny B, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 17:54 (eleven years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

This footage
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=compleat+beatles
of 'The Compleat Beatles' (snappy 1984 cheaply-made proto-ANTHOLOGY movie, shot on film and narrated by Malcolm Mcdowell) is
making me anticipate this happening all the more.

pisces, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 13:02 (eleven years ago) Permalink

It will happen before or since, but apparently at still takes time.

I expected they'd at least do "Sgt. Pepper" in June this year to coincide with its 40th anniversary, but they did't.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 13:06 (eleven years ago) Permalink

But at least, with the current trend for remasters, the ultimate edition will be better. I hope they will do like The Bee Gees and Monkees remasters, and put out 2CDs with the stereo version + bonus tracks in stereo on one and the mono version + bonus tracks in mono on the other one.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 13:07 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Well, a lot of '80s tropes are more fashionable now than they've been for a long time, so time has come around again for a lot of that stuff.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 18 August 2018 18:32 (two months ago) Permalink

Also, pre-internet, there used to be quite distinct differences between what was on the UK and US chart. America was a lot more kinder and more receptive to the '80s material of '60s/early-to-mid '70s artists.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 18 August 2018 18:38 (two months ago) Permalink

A great example of this would be the differences in all-star cast between 'Do They Know It's Christmas?' and 'We Are The World' ....

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 18 August 2018 18:39 (two months ago) Permalink

"We Are the World" may have been a popular record, but as an American born in 1968, I think young people here in the '80s had a very different perspective on how relatable artists who came up in the '60s (or even the '70s) were versus how young people today might view artists from the '80s or '90s. I think there's less of a generation gap now.

timellison, Saturday, 18 August 2018 18:48 (two months ago) Permalink

Well, a lot of '80s tropes are more fashionable now than they've been for a long time, so time has come around again for a lot of that stuff.

such as?

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Saturday, 18 August 2018 19:01 (two months ago) Permalink

You wouldn't have been able to get away with a production like the one on The 1975's 'This Must Be My Dream' back in the '90s. It just wouldn't have happened. All those reverbs and big snare sounds.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 18 August 2018 19:19 (two months ago) Permalink

'80s revival in indie really started as early as 1996 - https://www.discogs.com/Satisfact-The-Unwanted-Sounds-Of/master/188510

timellison, Saturday, 18 August 2018 19:23 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, Tim... I remember some newspapers here describing the Stones as "wrinkly rockers" circa Voodoo Lounge, by which point the Stones had been releasing records for roughly 31 years or something. U2 have been together for getting on roughly 40 years now and I don't see them being spoken about in terms of being "elderly rockers" or whatever.

In fact, when U2 were at roughly their 20 year mark, they had 'Beautiful Day' out and were as big as they'd ever been.

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Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 18 August 2018 19:30 (two months ago) Permalink

There were many ironic nods to '80s music trends in '90s music - Blur's 'Girls and Boys' is a good example - but it took a while before people got over that and began being sincere about it.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 18 August 2018 19:33 (two months ago) Permalink

Satisfact were super sincere!

timellison, Saturday, 18 August 2018 19:40 (two months ago) Permalink

They may well have been, but we're not really talking about music in niche indie music terms here!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 18 August 2018 19:53 (two months ago) Permalink

I see some elements of that kind of postmodern music in mainstream things from the '90s like Beck. Stereolab got signed to Elektra.

timellison, Saturday, 18 August 2018 20:08 (two months ago) Permalink

I don't recall any Stereolab that sounds like No Jacket Required or Songs from the Big Chair? They used synths, I'll give you that!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 18 August 2018 20:21 (two months ago) Permalink

U2 have been together for getting on roughly 40 years now and I don't see them being spoken about in terms of being "elderly rockers" or whatever.

More's the pity.

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Saturday, 18 August 2018 20:55 (two months ago) Permalink

A lot more old people are buying music now as well as playing it - it's harder to dismiss U2 as elderly rockers when you're 65 yourself.

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Saturday, 18 August 2018 20:57 (two months ago) Permalink

Jagger & Richards were both quite wrinkly by the late '80s tbf. Even Watts looked "distinguished" compared to the bronzed features of current Larry Mullen Jr.

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Saturday, 18 August 2018 21:16 (two months ago) Permalink

Well they'd had a hard life of it compared to the entirely uneventful existence of Larry Mullen Jr.

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Saturday, 18 August 2018 21:18 (two months ago) Permalink

Charlie had spent 25 years just waiting around iirc

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Saturday, 18 August 2018 21:56 (two months ago) Permalink

He (famously) didn’t even change his snare drum head for decades!

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Saturday, 18 August 2018 21:57 (two months ago) Permalink

Pop’s recording/release was delayed at least in part due to the back surgery Mullen had to undergo due to 16+ years sitting uncomfortably/unnaturally hunched over a drum kit.

Meanwhile, Watts sat straight up and continues to play through his 70s, without ever having needed surgery.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 August 2018 22:27 (two months ago) Permalink

Re. Stereolab, was talking more about postmodernism in general but I did think they maybe had some '80s pop influences in there.

timellison, Sunday, 19 August 2018 05:56 (one month ago) Permalink

one month passes...

but the legendary 27-minute version of “Helter Skelter” will NOT be included.

why do they do this kind of thing

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 September 2018 15:23 (three weeks ago) Permalink

gotta have something left over for the 75th anniversary edition, right?

tylerw, Friday, 21 September 2018 15:52 (three weeks ago) Permalink

No mono version either?

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Friday, 21 September 2018 16:26 (three weeks ago) Permalink

"new remix" - bleah

sleeve, Friday, 21 September 2018 16:40 (three weeks ago) Permalink

yeah I'm not particularly interested in a new remix. the old mix is idiosyncratic enough

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 September 2018 16:41 (three weeks ago) Permalink

We’re told that the new remix of the album by Giles Martin has “incredible clarity and more bass and drums present.”

drum & bass remix album

calamity gammon (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 21 September 2018 20:49 (three weeks ago) Permalink

No mono version either?

― Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Friday, September 21, 2018 12:26 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Even though I prefer the stereo mix (particularly on "Revolution 9" -- the mono of this is just a fold-down), it's weird/stupid/annoying that they're including a completely unnecessary remix instead of the mono.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 21 September 2018 20:56 (three weeks ago) Permalink

fuck "clarity"!!!

brimstead, Friday, 21 September 2018 20:57 (three weeks ago) Permalink

why do they do this kind of thing

― Οὖτις, Friday, September 21, 2018 11:23 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

At this point, it's like the express purpose of these reissues is to exclude the one most-sought-after unreleased track.

Can't wait for the Let It Be set that omits the Yoko/John/Paul/Ringo feedback freakout.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 21 September 2018 20:58 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i never actually checked out the stereo remix of sgt peppers ... was it terrible?

tylerw, Friday, 21 September 2018 21:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I thought the sgt pepper remix was great. they used the mono as a reference then placed everything around it in a more contemporary style. the compressed drums especially stand out, ringo rages on good morning good morning. way better than the OG stereo mix, and better for headphones than the mono mix imo. looking forward to hearing back in the ussr done in that fashion.

closed beta (NotEnough), Friday, 21 September 2018 21:46 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Friend noticed the other day that, based on the first take on the Pepper set, there is a mysterious *third* guitar part buried in the mix. It's this really weird cluster of notes played mostly on the low strings that sounds almost like an electric piano. You can barely even hear it in takes with the bass, but it's there!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 September 2018 22:03 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Pepper remix is great. And « Good morning », which I never particularly liked, is banging on it !

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 21 September 2018 22:41 (three weeks ago) Permalink

"Good Morning" was the winner, yes.

I did think "Within you without you" would also stretch out, but I guess if its not there then you can't bring it out.

Mark G, Friday, 21 September 2018 22:47 (three weeks ago) Permalink

why do they do this kind of thing

― Οὖτις, Friday, September 21, 2018 11:23 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Seriously! These are compiled as if they don't want to put-off casual fans, but surely it's mostly Beatles nerds who are buying super deluxe editions of these albums? Instead, it comes off as a weird middle-ground that seems to not fully satisfy either faction. (Not too mention the hardcore fan base for the Beatles is probably larger than many other bands' entire fan base!) I'm sure Apple could put out complete session sets similar to Dylan's Cutting Edge and make enough back, even if they just do it digitally.

blatherskite, Saturday, 22 September 2018 00:15 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Absolutely fascinating stuff in this seriously. Drop everything for an hour or so, it's in 3 parts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=240&v=bDKPPRyoUdQ

piscesx, Sunday, 23 September 2018 16:11 (three weeks ago) Permalink

bummed epic helter skelter won't be on it but would be happy to own the esher demos in full and on vinyl

canary christ (stevie), Sunday, 23 September 2018 16:56 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah the Esher demos in decent quality for sure, it's crazy there's never been a full set of those available before. When you look back on the Anthology CD set, it's a right mess. Should have been either more comprehensive like the Dylan series of bootlegs or just a 10-track album like the one they were planning; 'Sessions' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sessions_(album) instead it's some cockeyed triple-set-of-double-CDs thing.

piscesx, Sunday, 23 September 2018 17:09 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I don't get that. You either want more or you want less?

timellison, Sunday, 23 September 2018 17:54 (three weeks ago) Permalink

MUCH more, ideally everything basically. I mean the man in the street didn't want/need 3 double out-take CDs and 6 hour-long parts of a tv show; a 100 minute film and a 45 minute long 'New Beatles Album' would've suited just fine. And hardcore fans weren't happy either not getting the full thwack (Esher demos, Cranival Of Light, 12 minute Helter Skelter, whatever..). It's why no one speaks particularly highly of it these days.

piscesx, Sunday, 23 September 2018 18:03 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I mean the man in the street didn't want/need 3 double out-take CDs


Evidently they did (want, maybe not need), because those things sold millions.

But that’s the problem with archival releases for a band with probably hundreds of millions of casual fans: from the perspective of the Beatles camp, the notion of an all-encompassing warts-and-all Beatles release that wouldn’t appeal to all potential purchasers is a non-starter. And the one time they did release such a set — the iTunes-only 1963 Bootleg Recordings — there was no promotion for it (and barely any confirmation of its existence) whatsoever.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 23 September 2018 18:35 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I'll speak relatively highly of it. I like the way it's sequenced. Bootleg Recordings was interesting in part because there weren't twelve takes of everything.

timellison, Sunday, 23 September 2018 18:54 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Full White Album tracklist

http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/the-beatles-the-white-album-50th-anniversary-super-deluxe-edition/

Intrigued by Good Night's additional takes. Shame that Lennon's original guide vocal/demo was (apparently) wiped.

piscesx, Monday, 24 September 2018 14:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

And an early version of "Let It Be"

Mark G, Monday, 24 September 2018 14:42 (three weeks ago) Permalink

xp OK, according to that link, the audio Blu-Ray does contain "a direct transfer of the original mono mix." So no mono remix, but you at least get the original, but I don't know if that means the remaster from the mono CD box set or not.

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Monday, 24 September 2018 14:58 (three weeks ago) Permalink

From that tracklist, it seems I know all the Esher demos and many of the studio sessions.
I'm not sure I need to hear all the other studio takes (I was never fond of the ones on Anthology).

Were the studio sessions for the Pepper 50th anniversary good ?

Most of the times, I find Beatles' sessions not very interesting (compared to the Pet Sounds sessions which is the ultimate sessions boxset).

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 24 September 2018 15:05 (three weeks ago) Permalink

The Sgt. Pepper remix was surprisingly good. It brought in the good stuff from 'Love' without tearing apart the album's flow.

Only thing I wasn't crazy about – and this isn't easy for me to describe – was Giles ratcheting up the whole Beatleness of the tracks. "Boosting the Beatles on a Sgt. Pepper remix, the very nerve..." yes, I hear you. What I mean are things like lifting Mal Evans up above the din of "A Day in the Life" - a resource that wasn't really intended to ever be heard, much less as loud as one of the background vocals. The studio banter that might seem endearing to Yellow Submarine fans but marred Let It Be as an album sneaks in here and there.

It wasn't a big deal at all, but it was noticeable. I'm almost anticipating the "paul is dead miss him miss him miss him" or whatever it says before "Blackbird" to be cranked up to 11.

pplains, Monday, 24 September 2018 17:58 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Thing is, the original "blend" still exists, whereas the remix means you can pick out the facets.

It all started with that remix of "Yellow Submarine"

Mark G, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 10:07 (three weeks ago) Permalink


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