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Notwist from Weilheim, Bavaria have just released their new album Neon Golden. I have heard two tracks and they were quite impressive. I had not heard of them before though they have been around for many years. Apparently they got bored of indie rock a couple of years ago and switched over to melodic slightly experimental more electronic music. Could this record end up in 2002's Top Ten as I read somewhere? It is a little bit early but who knows...

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, what's up with this band? I heard some electronic-oriented tracks from a compilation that I liked, and then I found 12 and I was like ??? It sounds like Sebadoh circa Bakesale. (I haven't listened to it enough to have an opinion.) Quite a transformation.

Mark, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Have the first album ('98?) - a somewhat jazzier Stereolab would be the fairest assessment. I know that they have had at least four other albums out since then (not including the new one) but haven't kept up as I sort of fell out of love of that whole genre.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The song on the Morr Music comp from 2000 ("Scoop") is awfully wonderful. Very clean along the lines of other Morr and City Centre stuff (Herrmann and Kleine* and Arovane and Solvent and the like). So, I guess this will remain a mystery until Melissa comes and sorts it all out. IIIRC, she's quite fond of these guys.

* should be a new album from them soon as well, no? If it's half as good as "Kickboard Girl"...

scott p., Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Most of the tracks on 12 have a copyright date of 1996, so that debut must have been from earlier.

Mark, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

12, if I have my rock music sundial pointed at the sun properly, was their "rock" album - "The Everpresent Change of My Alien" (sic?) rec'd a good amount of airtime up here in New England. (However, I believe that track comes from a previous album; the Zero Hour folks licensing the Notwist albums in the US included a bonus disc w/ that track, which "rocked" like a teutonic Helmet).

Their previous album, Shrink, sounds more like the Stereolab/jazz thing Marcello mentioned (I think that's the '98 one - Album #4, possibly) - there are bits of electronic hoohah on it as well. It's a fine disc, mixing the horns & the bleeps & the guitars to fine effect.

Of course, Mel can also set us curious folks straight on the various side-projects Notwist folks are involved w/. (I'd dig out that old Puncture article on this very topic, but it's not at my disposal at this time.)

David Raposa, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link lists an album Nook from 1992. Btw their new album is already #27 at This is not the same as being #27 in the charts!

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Their first two albums date back to the early 90s. Very rawking metal. They bear even less resemblance to "12" than it does to "Shrink", their swell 1998 album. Members also record IDM as Console, jazzy electronics as Tied & Tickled Trio, and with Lali Puna. All worth checking out.

Curt, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

"Neon Golden" is brilliant, blending (horrible word, sorry) old, acoustic instruments with bleeps and stuff from instruments I can't make out, but hell, it does the job for me. People who liked "Shrink" will love this one, as it is better, the ingredients are now put together in the right proportion (not being English, I have my doubts about that last sentence...) Listen to it, enjoy it!

WiLLeM, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Neon Golden is their fifth album, as stated somewhere above I believe. It's a continuation of what they began on Shrink, but Johannes Enders is much less involved than he was on that album. Notwist are a strange story, with roots in loud guitar-driven heavy metal. Somewhere around 12, things shifted as they added bits of electronic and experimented with the remix, including the remix EP with the American issue. Shrink is jazzier and also driven by a blend of electronic manipulations and instruments, particular the banjo, which some see as a gimmick. But they've used it since their days as a heavy metal outfit. Neon Golden I haven't made my mind up about yet. 12 and Shrink have been my favorites, but I've been listening to Neon Golden non-stop since I got it.

Other albums: S/T, Nook, 12 and Shrink with the last one being the only one remotely similar in sound and texture to Neon Golden.

Side-projects: Tied and Tickled Trio (mainly Johannes Enders' gig, but his role in Notwist seems to have diminished), Village of Savoonga, Lali Puna, Console, Potawatomi and a handful of other small projects, most of them originating mid-90s from the Hausmusik/Kollaps/Payola trio of labels.

Bofus, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, Bofus took up all my useful information, so I'll just say that Neon Golden is my favorite album of 2002 so far. It's a bit weak and repetitive in spots, but ultimately is quite enjoyable. It's fairly solid and polished and has some interesting combinations of styles. The strange, stilted command of English adds another interesting aspect; the lyrics are broken up oddly, and the words they chose to emphasize are all wrong.

Melissa W, Wednesday, 23 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Neon Golden was my first Notwist album. It sounds like a complicated mix of New Order, Beloved and Pet Shop Boys. At times it is glorious pop and at others it is morbidly brooding and dense. the more you listen, the more it reveals.

Never heard any of their other stuff, but it sounds like I have found them at the right time

Sonicred, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I got the album last week. The 15 months production period can be heard in the complex 72 track recordings. The singer's voice is a little thin but just ok. At least he has not too much of a German accent in his English. The lyrics are a little forced and pseudo- philosophical in places, but funny, e.g.: "Fail with consequence, lose with eloquence and smile". The record is a grower. The combination of strange electronic sounds and acoustic instruments is quite successful. The golden middle between experimental and pop music. I like "Pilot", "Pick up the Phone", the banjo dominated "Trashing Days" and "This Room" the most.

alex in mainhattan, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
@Alex: The Album did unexpectedly well in the German charts, it entered at #13, after several weeks it slowly went down to #98 where it was last week.

Julian, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
has anyone the notwist lyrics from Neon Golden?? - please answer!

cloud#7, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
The strange, stilted command of English adds another interesting aspect; the lyrics are broken up oddly, and the words they chose to emphasize are all wrong.

I always appreciate the contributions that non-native speakers make to the English language--I don't mean that in any condescending sense either. Some review noted, with prejudice, that "One with the Freaks" was not a title any native English speaker would come up with. But I appreciate it for that very reason. It has a directness, a poetic right-ness, that a native speaker might pass up.

Amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 17 January 2003 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I wouldn't put it past, say, Robert Pollard to come up with EXACTLY that title!

matt riedl (veal), Friday, 17 January 2003 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Black Box rules non-native english lyrics.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 17 January 2003 22:43 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
i loved this album once but's hardly ever played

s.r.w. (s.r.w.), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link

me too. It was such a great discovery at the time but now it sits up there with the Sigur Ros's debut in the "ooh, must play that again one day" pile. I still get a funny feeling from hearing "Pilot" though - one of the best tracks of last year.

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
"Pilot" is a classic, classic track. The rest I never really got into.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 8 August 2004 01:23 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...

oh yes !

the notwist - - a blog about: the notwist - Blog Archive - new record, release date, track list and more…

some news are public now. last week berlin-pop-journalist walter wacht had the chance to listen to notwist’s new record, which is still untitled and will be released on cityslang on Mai 2, 2008. the new record was mastered at the famous abbey road studios in london, uk (notwist’s 2002 record “neon golden” got also it’s mastering there). the record has 11 tracks, a total playtime of only 42 minutes and the to be confirmed tracklist is looking like that:

The Notwist - “untitled“:

01. Good Lies
02. Where In This World
03. Gloomy Planets
04. Alphabet
05. The Devil, You & Me
06. Gravity
07. Sleep
08. On Planet Off
09. Boneless
10. Hands On Us
11. Gone Gone Gone

djmartian, Thursday, 28 February 2008 11:34 (thirteen years ago) link

finally! (thx!)

StanM, Thursday, 28 February 2008 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow, cool! Notwist completely dropped off my radar a few years ago when I finally got sick of Neon Golden. It would be nice if they came out of nowhere to be a highlight of 2008 like they did in 2002.

Z S, Thursday, 28 February 2008 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link

cool. i lost my copy of neon golden soon after i got it, but love the dudes that are in tied + tickled trio.

Jordan, Thursday, 28 February 2008 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link

neon golden's still sounds pretty solid, listened to it a couple weeks ago. i'll be checking out the new one...

stephen, Thursday, 28 February 2008 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I like this new song:

St3ve Go1db3rg, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

i hope the rest of the album is less indie pop and more banjos + beats.

Jordan, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

i can't believe neon golden came out six years ago

akm, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah! It's still awesome. Off The Rails + Consequence is such an ultra combo.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link

four months pass...

I love this record.

Scik Mouthy, Sunday, 6 July 2008 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link

The new one, that is. But I love Neon Golden too.

Scik Mouthy, Sunday, 6 July 2008 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link

The Notwist - The Devil, You + Me

i just bought this album from Amoeba, still think it's really good.

Bee OK, Sunday, 6 July 2008 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

still can't believe the singer's a dude

kamerad, Sunday, 6 July 2008 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I found this odd Notwist soundtrack on emusic that apparently came out last year. Its called "Sturm". Dont know anything at all about it (ie what movie/show/thing is it for?) but it is utterly lovely! Completely ambient with calm little glitchy fiddles, reminds me of a more serene Ryuchi Sakamoto. No singing.

demiurge overkill (Trayce), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 06:42 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

i listened to this for the first time in 10 years today. it's instantly likable, having good tunes and inventive arrangements, but strangely, it's not very compelling and it will probably be another 10 years before I return to it.

Poliopolice, Sunday, 2 September 2012 17:44 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...
one year passes...

A few days ago, Sub Pop posted an intriguing teaser on its website: In a “glorious and career-justifying event,” they’d signed a mysterious new artist, an artist they’d been “HUGE fans of for years.” They also posted a 15-second clip of new music and held a contest asking fans to guess the artist. Most of the serious guesses were some variation on Thom Yorke or Panda Bear, but it turns out to be the Notwist, the German electronic-prog band who hasn’t released an album since 2008.
Depending on where you’re sitting, the news of a new Notwist album on Sub Pop is either a tremendous anticlimax or a badass piece of news — or maybe it’s both. Either way, the label will release Close To The Glass, the first new Notwist album in nearly six years, early in 2014. And below, you can hear the skittery, minimal title track and check out the album’s tracklist.

ArchCarrier, Friday, 13 December 2013 14:17 (seven years ago) link

badass piece of news imo. that console solo album from a couple of years ago was really great.

a beef supreme (dog latin), Friday, 13 December 2013 14:20 (seven years ago) link

wow. the new one is really good. much, much better than their last one. "Into Another Tune" is especially nice.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 03:19 (seven years ago) link

oops, by "their last one" i meant the devil, you+me. i haven't heard Sturm (apparently for the best)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 03:21 (seven years ago) link

Great, cause I loved The Devil, You + Me!

Evan, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 03:52 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Has anyone heard the new album?

crowhurst, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 06:09 (seven years ago) link

Only once, but at least half of the record is really solid.

Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 06:11 (seven years ago) link

I've heard it a few times. I think it's pretty damn good, and the tracks released so far are some of the weakest on it.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 06:16 (seven years ago) link

Oh this is just great. Really good.

the drummer is a monster (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 20:52 (seven years ago) link

Oh, man, this is good!

Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 23:29 (seven years ago) link

Love it!

Evan, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 00:08 (seven years ago) link

I like some of it but not all...Can't decide whether I like that one song with a real heavy shoegaze MBV feel to it; but others nicely blend motorik and German '80s and Velvets and electronic accents

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:13 (seven years ago) link

I liked that song a lot (though I didn't listen too closely). But I don't have any problems with heavy shoegazey vibes.

Evan, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 15:27 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, 7-Hour-Drive is straight-up Loveless-pastiche. But they get that sound much more than people normally do, normally people just put on a layer of noise and calls it shoegaze, but this has all the weird bended sounds pat down. I like it.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 16:14 (seven years ago) link

I only know Neon Golden, but xhchuckxx eddy wants them to go back to their even earlier album approach that he says had more metal

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 16:30 (seven years ago) link

I LOVE that early metal stuff too.

Evan, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 16:36 (seven years ago) link

That song is probably not the best representation of their metal roots but it's incredible.

Evan, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 16:37 (seven years ago) link

Xchuckxx says check the intricate distorto-chug thrashing on 1992's Nook and 1995's 12 if you're skeptical. Those are still their most exciting albums.

Will have to check those out

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 17:24 (seven years ago) link

_Shrink_ was my first, and loved that so much, went online to go back catalog. Found a German fanpage, and a hilarious lofty disavowal of the band, having changed their style from their heavier earlier sound to his dismay. For me, one of those bands that has a quality core, so have enjoyed their evolving style.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 17:38 (seven years ago) link

I listened to this on my morning commute and I went from "eh okay this is p good" to like "holy shit this is fantastic" over the course of the album. It reminded me of how much I used to listen to Neon Golden when it came out and how important it was to me at that time, and made me consider how skillfully they blended these sounds that are both very organic folksy type stuff and very synthetic IDM type stuff but in a really unified way that doesn't at all feel stark or contrived, and how they kinda pioneered this whole "indietronica" thing but in a way that was not at all precious or cutesy, and how if Neon Golden had come out like 3 years later it probably would have been much, much bigger than it was.

"Jiggle It" - 2 in a Zoo (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 28 February 2014 15:38 (seven years ago) link

i love u Notwist

"Jiggle It" - 2 in a Zoo (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 28 February 2014 15:38 (seven years ago) link

I'm still puzzling over this and need to listen to it some more (plus finally discover their catalogue). I continue to like some but not all. Am also curious what those folks disecting the St. Vincent production approach and criticing the rhythm section there, think of this one. I haven't made up my mind on that one either.

curmudgeon, Friday, 28 February 2014 16:13 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Yes, I love the new Notwist. I used to listen to them a lot a really long time ago, so if memory serves, their production seems to be pretty consistent with the rest of their stuff. It has this DIY-electronic sound with more organic vocals, with just some being processed/filtered. It has a small-studio/home-studio production quality to it that I really loved mainly because I was trying to do the same thing at one point.

I've not read everything everyone has said on that St Vincent thread, but re-listening to the new SV album, like someone said on that thread, this has a much more polished, large studio sound to it. Very loud. The drums, the synths. Vocals are a lot more filtered.

To be honest, they sound different to me. The treated sounds on the Notwist album sound like they were mixed with smaller monitors and just to be a quieter album, while the SV album sounds really expansive and big. Notwist sounds 'introverted', while St Vincent is more bombastic, large, extroverted, and forcibly eccentric. SV's album sounds melodramatic/theatrical to be, with a wider vocal dynamic.

But that's just to my ears :)

, Saturday, 22 March 2014 16:32 (seven years ago) link

to be = to me*

, Saturday, 22 March 2014 16:34 (seven years ago) link

love and light

love and light (Karl Malone), Saturday, 22 March 2014 16:35 (seven years ago) link

Oh, I should mention I used my Klipsch Image X10s to listen to both of those albums.

, Saturday, 22 March 2014 16:39 (seven years ago) link

When the new album, "Close To The Glass", begins, i'm very engaged and interested; by the end i can't wait for it to end. While not quite in the same vein, the remind me of Miike Snow, which i like quite a bit more.

bodacious ignoramus, Saturday, 22 March 2014 17:16 (seven years ago) link

I still need to listen to this more (if only to more completely decide which cuts I like and which ones I don't), plus 1992's Nook and 1995's 12

curmudgeon, Saturday, 22 March 2014 17:21 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

The remixes on the Run Run Run E.P. are far superior than those on "Close to the Glass"; especially the Nuel remix of Into Another Tune which turns the base material into an 8+ minute hypnotic groove.

bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 30 May 2014 01:04 (seven years ago) link

four years pass...

it's weird to say so, but the live album from a couple years ago is actually great

mookieproof, Saturday, 11 August 2018 01:17 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

New EP

djh, Friday, 21 August 2020 08:09 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

New album in January. Like this a lot:

djh, Monday, 16 November 2020 20:43 (eleven months ago) link

I've been playing this a lot:

... while wondering if they make a living as musicians or if they work in graphic design or similar?

(It's a very good live show).

djh, Sunday, 22 November 2020 21:59 (eleven months ago) link

two months pass...

New one out today!

black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Friday, 29 January 2021 08:32 (eight months ago) link

First impression is that it lacks the poppy punch of Neon Golden, less hooks, more atmosphere.

black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Friday, 29 January 2021 09:12 (eight months ago) link

Barely listened to them since the '00s, but will give this a whirl. Just saw 'Neon Golden' is not streaming on Apple Music - huh?!

cooldix, Friday, 29 January 2021 09:27 (eight months ago) link

It's sounding good, to me.

djh, Friday, 29 January 2021 13:58 (eight months ago) link

This is very nice, feels like a good update on their post-Neon Golden sound with the tasteful collabs and transitions. Some of it feels really familiar - actually, thanks to 'Where You Find Me' I was ambushed with unexpected emotion on the back of my motorcycle taxi home from work. Suddenly it was 2002 again.

The album made me dig up a few songs I loved from previous records, and the comments above re. stilted English hit me in ways I hadn't thought about before. Take the use of 'hell' from 'Boneless' and 'Men of Station':

This town is all in hell

We are men of station
We are troubled men just the same
But we're not as hell as you

cooldix, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 13:54 (eight months ago) link

six months pass...

'sans soleil' is their prettiest song since neon golden. this is all i want from them

ciderpress, Saturday, 28 August 2021 00:13 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

I've gone back to that Pop Kultur show posted above and am enjoying immensely with a bottle of red. It's awesome.

djh, Friday, 8 October 2021 18:16 (two weeks ago) link

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