Defend The Indefensible: Rick Wakeman

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when i saw him it was the opposite - at one point he was almost inducing chest cavity resonance with slow-decay high-resonance filter-sweeps on 32'/sawtooth set minimoog oscillators...
god it was wonderful

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Thursday, 18 November 2004 11:22 (nineteen years ago) link

(i always thought moraz much more towards the high-pitched squealy end of things - i haven't listened to 'relayer' for about 28 years, but the tendency is also all over his semi-mentalist 'story of i' 1st solo album)

(which nonetheless has an amazing first couple of minutes....as if Propaganda/ZTT had appeared 10 yrs earlier as mid-70's south american prog-rockers !)

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Thursday, 18 November 2004 11:33 (nineteen years ago) link

The organ riff on "Starship Trooper"!

That's three chords — and Kaye didn't even write them.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 18 November 2004 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Wakeman still has tea & biscuits with his keyboard tech during Alan White's drum solo on "Ritual", I think. Its become a tradition.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:13 (nineteen years ago) link

no mention of his other 'classic' of the era - no earthly connection.

this along with Wives, and King Arthur are 3 wonderfully OTT albums for when your 14>16 and haven't discovered Foetus/ON-U Sound yet

.. then to be hidden deep in the archive forever after.

he was also one of the first Rock stars to ever respond to a sad fanboy letter ..

i'm revealing wayyyy too much here .. but hey ..

and live in 1984 Braford St Georges hall - he was quality (again, i was still within the predefined 14-16 years of age)

but damn - when the dude is bad he is seriously bad .. 'rock-n-roll prophet' album .. WTF ..

mark e (mark e), Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Three chords and the truth, man!

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 18 November 2004 18:27 (nineteen years ago) link

the keyb solo sounds like a harpsichord on "Sibertian Khatru" is indeed fine. That song is a masterpiece all around, actually. i actually found an old, scratchy copy of "Six Wives" yesterday in a box stored for years and it's...fun...

and while Tony Kaye was sort of neutral, I like that Hammond sound he got on "Yes Album," and "Yours is No Disgrace" does utilize the I-IV-VII progression (I think it's B-flat pedal tone with B-flat/E-flat-B-flat 7 sus 4 there) well.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:08 (nineteen years ago) link

A monkey could've played it.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link

i wish there were more monkeys playing music, actually.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link

And I'm surprised Ned doesn't even like "Long Distance Runaround".

It's sorta goofy.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link

it is goofy. I do like the beginning bit, though, that's kind of cool. It's funny to me, they way they try to funkify the backing tracks with that drum/bass interaction.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link

A monkey could've played it.

A MONKEY, eh. Apparently you've never heard Kaye on 9012Live: The Solos.

savetherobot, Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh but I have — but of course we're making the same point. Look, I'm fine w/ people saying Kaye didn't screw things up like Wakeman maybe did or didn't, depending on your taste. But to sit there and say, "Those three chords he played on organ there are truly the bee's knees"? I mean, seriously — give me a fucking break. That's like complimenting a session drummer for managing to keep time. Yay.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 18 November 2004 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link

NTI, you are unnecessarily harsh on Tony Kaye.

Give it up for the white-haired wonder!

http://www.dhc.net/~krobert/yes/a_rick_2.jpg

wetmink (wetmink), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I mean, look at that shirt!

wetmink (wetmink), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm w/Sundar & Eddie & all the other folks who rate The Yes Album uber alles and preferred Tony Kaye's minimal contributions because of the less-obtrusiveness factor. No question Wakeman was a better player and a major component of those twin '72 masterpieces, but he could be obnoxious at times: One of the best things about his "Close To The Edge" Hammond solo is the respite it provides after many minutes of "I Get Up I Get Down"'s near-painful sustained cathedral-organ chords.

I admit I haven't heard Rick's solo LPs, but only because I don't want to.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link

NTI, you are unnecessarily harsh on Tony Kaye.

I have nothing against Tony Kaye. I do, however, find the notion of praising his abilities to be patently ludicrous on its face. The guy stayed out of the way — that's it, folks.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I mean, seriously, that's true. Wakeman is a more skilled player and more entertaining to watch. But on the other hand, as generally agreed, to some people's tastes there's something to be said to Yes as a whole without Wakeman. I'm just sort of jokingly lionizing Tony Kaye as an anti-Wakeman.

wetmink (wetmink), Thursday, 18 November 2004 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link

The guy stayed out of the way — that's it, folks.

I should note, however, that Robert Fripp once gave Bill Bruford a writing credit for choosing not to interrupt an improvisation by playing. Perhaps he learned such restraint from his time spent in Yes with The Indomitable Tony Kaye!

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 18 November 2004 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Speaking of Bruford, in The Music's All That Matters he does give Wakeman the credit for knowing how to write smooth transitions between the "movements" in Yes's songs.

wetmink (wetmink), Thursday, 18 November 2004 21:28 (nineteen years ago) link

... and implies Jon Anderson was not good at same...

wetmink (wetmink), Thursday, 18 November 2004 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey! This is a Wakeman thread? What's with all the Tony Kaye love?!

Listen to 90125. The man added practically nada to the situation.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 18 November 2004 21:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Thank you. Thank you.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 18 November 2004 23:05 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Listening to Close to the Edge today (after having found my cassette tape, yes cassette tape, again), it occurred to me that, perhaps, just perhaps, Rick Wakeman actually had a great sense of humor, even if he didn't realize it. I mean the harpsichord break on Siberian Khartu is effing hilarious. The prance-y electric rennaisance faire shit is a bit too much though.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 04:30 (nineteen years ago) link


Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000879J.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Greatest album cover ever.

Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I fear to ask, but what does the 'plus' mean?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 21:40 (nineteen years ago) link

he wears that gold cape in every picture from 75-78 it seems

chaki in charge (chaki), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh my.

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, the original album was called "Rock n Roll Prophet", and for the CD release he added on some tracks. Hence: "Rock n Roll Prophet Plus". This album, by the way, features the positively outstanding "I'm So Straight I'm a Weirdo" and "Do You Believe in Fairies?", with Wakeman himself taking lead vocals (ironically, he's better than 99% of the people he actually hired to sing lead vocals on his albums).

Back to the album cover,I particularly like the Snoopy doll hanging from the coat rack.

Joe (Joe), Thursday, 30 December 2004 01:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Or maybe it's the model with the lollipop and McCartney bass...

Joe (Joe), Thursday, 30 December 2004 01:21 (nineteen years ago) link

am i the only one who thinks that this album cover is almost momus-esque?

I fear to ask, but what does the 'plus' mean?

it's like the "32" on every bottle of rolling rock beer!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 30 December 2004 06:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, but "Perpetual Change" and "Yours Is No Disgrace" are both vastly superior on Yessongs
All Yours Is No Disgrace Are Belong To Yes!

Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 30 December 2004 07:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Que?

Joe (Joe), Thursday, 30 December 2004 12:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Isn't it Wakeman who turns up on Grumpy Old Men? He's pretty funny on that - better than J Clarkson anyway.

Charles Dexter (Holey), Thursday, 30 December 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link

it's like the "32" on every bottle of rolling rock beer!

What kind of drunk are you? It's 33

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 December 2004 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link

It's 32 PLUS 1.

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 30 December 2004 14:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Que?
Sorry. Was a lame joke on this already lame joke.

Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 30 December 2004 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

(But quite why I like Jon Lord a lot, say, is a mystery.)-- Ned Raggett (Ned), teisipäev, 16. November 2004 11:50 (3 years ago)

Oi, man. Had we met in, say, '75 or samthung, I woulda been ready & willing to talk away on JonLord-iana for days on end. :)

t**t, Thursday, 10 January 2008 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

er, lol?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IHVdG3rKqE

gershy, Monday, 26 May 2008 06:30 (fifteen years ago) link

http://home.maine.rr.com/abajoran/img/rw11.jpg

Reminds me of somebody but I can't put my finger on it.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 26 May 2008 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Rick Wakeman, per chance?

t**t, Monday, 26 May 2008 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Or Gandalf the Grey with a reddish Rick Wakeman mane photoshopped unto 'im?

t**t, Monday, 26 May 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

('m making them silly jokeses just to alleviate the strain of awaitin' my cd copy of six wiveses, which i orderered on teh cheap, to arrive...)

t**t, Monday, 26 May 2008 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link

there some super funky shit on journey to the centre of the earth and no earthly connection.

chaki, Monday, 26 May 2008 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link

one of my first threads *tear*
Taking Sides! Rick Wakemen vs. Keith Emerson!

chaki, Monday, 26 May 2008 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link

All I'll say is he plays an INSANE keyboard. In fact two at the same time. I'm just echoing the sentiments of various youtube viewers but Rick can play, he's adventurous musically but I feel that you really shouldn't ignore the fact that he destroyed Yes because he did it so spectacularly.

VeronaInTheClub, Monday, 26 May 2008 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link

(pace the thread header, i WOULD kinda want to hear mr. wakeman's take on dizzee rascal).

Eisbaer, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 05:04 (fifteen years ago) link

http://home.maine.rr.com/abajoran/img/rw11.jpg

Beck?

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 11:07 (fifteen years ago) link


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