i swear, seeing the photos on the internet actually caused my heart to skip a beat.
I've been over Jandek since he became Chusid fodder but, wow, what's next? A JD Salinger reality show? A Jimmy Hoffa book signing? Jesus walkin' on the water?
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 22:23 (twenty years ago) link
this is officially the fourth thread in the past 36 hours.
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 22:25 (twenty years ago) link
― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 22:26 (twenty years ago) link
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― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 22:29 (twenty years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 22:30 (twenty years ago) link
me too!
― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 22:34 (twenty years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 22:36 (twenty years ago) link
― adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 22:50 (twenty years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 22:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Mike Dixon, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 15:08 (twenty years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 15:11 (twenty years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Monday, 21 March 2005 12:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Monday, 21 March 2005 12:47 (nineteen years ago) link
If I wasn't old and lame I swear I'd run away from home to see this. The festval is rather called 'A Music Lover's Field Companion' which I think is a John Cage reference. Whatever, it sounds like three days of howling at the moon to me.
― NickB (NickB), Monday, 21 March 2005 13:58 (nineteen years ago) link
I wonder if the man will play some hits.. you know. that gig in scotland was all new material, or so it seemed. I want him to play Down In A Mirror, Naked In The Afternoon, Only Lover etc. etc.
― Ludo (Ludo), Monday, 21 March 2005 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Monday, 21 March 2005 15:42 (nineteen years ago) link
i think i read on the Jandek mailinglist that the Man from Corwood himself confirmed this on the phone, yes.. (i don't know if he confirmed a dvd though, definetely a cd) i guess it will be out AFTER his new album "When I Took That Train" finally hits the streets. (there have been delays, i think..)
― Ludo (Ludo), Monday, 21 March 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ludo (Ludo), Sunday, 27 March 2005 08:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 01:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 01:42 (nineteen years ago) link
but yeah, wierd. good for him tho.
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 01:56 (nineteen years ago) link
SO OTM!
― broken down (noisemeltdown), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 02:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― mike a, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 03:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 03:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 12:28 (nineteen years ago) link
"Ah yes, I remember it well. 'Twas a Glasgow Sunday ... "
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 16 May 2005 05:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ludo (Ludo), Monday, 16 May 2005 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sean M (Sean M), Sunday, 22 May 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 May 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link
Say hello to the old goth.
― Soukesian, Sunday, 22 May 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago) link
Apparently Jandek is going to do a new piece called (I think) "The Cell" and has warned the easily-offended to attend at their own risk.
― jed_ (jed), Monday, 23 May 2005 12:06 (nineteen years ago) link
Held a mostly cross-legged audience for around an hour in a hot and stuffy venue, but I'm afraid we bailed out for the bar after less than twenty minutes. (You can hate us now.)
― Soukesian, Tuesday, 24 May 2005 09:47 (nineteen years ago) link
He really seemed to be working through some stuff.
― Sean M (Sean M), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 10:41 (nineteen years ago) link
He looked old.
― Sean M (Sean M), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 10:42 (nineteen years ago) link
i thought it was incredible, one of the top 5 or so live experiences of my life. i wasn't the least bit depressed by it, it was very beautiful. Jandek looked very self contained, not nervous or shy or any of the things we would normally expect from a "recluse". i didn't think the venue was stuffy and and i wasn't bored at all. Also there was no viola played.
The percussionist did a sterling job, bowing just about everything on his drumkit, not playing it conventionally at any point. the highlight was the tibetan singing bowl, especially the smaller one. it's amazing how something that small can produce such a piercing sound. The sound in the venue is brilliant.
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link
I agree that the percussionist was really excellent. It was fascinating to hear the interplay between he and J, the shimmering/clanging/shrieking that echoed/contrasted the impressionistic piano-lines and the winsome/breathy questions of the piano-man.
― Sean M (Sean M), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 12:17 (nineteen years ago) link
Not unlike Elton John when he plays with Ray Cooper then?
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 12:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sean M (Sean M), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 12:44 (nineteen years ago) link
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― stew, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:12 (nineteen years ago) link
Oh - I didn't recognize Alex from Lucky Luke; that makes a lot of sense!
― Sean M (Sean M), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 11:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 12:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 5 August 2005 23:50 (nineteen years ago) link
you don't believe it? your religion sucks. BELIEVE IT NOW BROTHER
ite, show @ 7pm, doors @6:30. The plan. follow it. the life of a night time, yeeeeaah!
meet at QFC on 1st and repub. get something really cheap and shitty from the deli. thats what its there for. lots of shitty cheap deli shit. youll need the energy and youll need the money for boozage.
head to easy street and scope out the honies going to jandek lookin through the used sections for all that funky shit like that. popol vuh, amon duul, think burning man wimmin. earthy, yes, but hotness exists in allness. dont be a hater. just dont burp or fart out the qfc crap you ate. baaad karma and bad smells.
go to pags to get some slicers. remember, cheaper food, more boozage later.
head to floyds to catch some tv and a game, and split some ribs. get drunk there.. not that preppy pub bullshit around the corner from rasha. floyds is the deal. worship the dancing pig and cow. nobody goes there = mecca for cheap drinks.
save the quality alky for mirabeau room. ok, babes? there. always. go there, prepare to have your card or some twennies, because theres always time to chat flirt spurt freak laugh hug and who knows what.
then on the way to the show, ozzie's. karaoke remember? and i cant stress this enough. youll only have time to do one karaoke number if yer lucky. so pick a good one. and heres my recommendation. whitesnake. "here i go again". yeah whitenakes sucks. everyone knows whitesnake sucks. but everyone knows that song and everyone can remember the chorus. thats all you need to know. just ape the verses. who gives a shit. but you GOTTA just put motherfuckin BALLS into the chorus. you know why? that coverdale dude never did. he fuckin phoned it in. even if he meant it, he never followed through. have you seen that shitty video? the man is a bored bonnie tyler with a dick. except without swagger. THE KEY, MY BRO. you cant just belt out "here i go again on my own". you gotta have swagger. no skills needed. you need heart. showing off your muscles, your hat, your belly, whatever. people love that shit. put your heart into it and you might as well hang a sign over your dick sayin "look just get on this already. good times guaranteed." you want proof? come check it out and dont chicken out. if you cant spend three minutes aping a shitty whitesnake song at ozzie's in order to get maybe the love of your life, you deserve to be a virginarian.
so you get to choose from the crowd of hotties who want all of you after "here i go again" and yer off to school them on some really freak shit. they love that you can do the cock rock and then be a witness to the freak rock. yer showing science.
ON THE BROADS. their putting on a show at 100 roy west just a block away or something. you can stumble there now. and guess what.. its 6:30 or 7 or something, and behold.
JANDEK.
motherfucking JAAAANDDEEEEEEKKK!!
texas roots. no protection necessary. no bullshit. this is like only eighth show in america or something. youll never see him and his rock in this town again. miss this if you have the chance and convenience and wanna but dont go and you a choad, ma man. just tattoo "me a choad" on you already. fuck.
i cant wait. i mean once the jams start to hit, im gonna blow up the floor with fuckin napolean dynamite like in pedros class president skit shit. VOTE FOR JANDEK. dont laugh. the real deal.
SEE YOU IN THE LOVE PIT, BRO!
(heh, ok seriously, I'm really excited about this. I'll be there by 7pm, probably earlier, and hope to see whoever of you is going there. :D)
― gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Friday, 27 October 2006 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jubalique (Jubalique), Friday, 27 October 2006 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link
if the man can afford a new cadillac based on his music and his day job, if he has one or not, then the world is a slightly better place.
would it be more comforting for my soul if he train-hobo'ed back to Houston instead?
― gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Friday, 27 October 2006 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― opalescent arcs (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 28 October 2006 07:18 (eighteen years ago) link
All these questions, musings, past show reviews, and stories were swirling in my head moments before he was to take the stage. Then the announcer came to introduce the band. The players, Emil Amos on drums, Sam Coones on bass, and Liz Harris & Jessica Dennison on additional vocals walked out to applause. Then Jandek strolled out to greater applause, completely unphased by the adoration. He was oddly deliberate as he strapped on his guitar, and plugged it into his amplifier, only intensifying the anticipation.
So, what does Jandek's music sound like?
The best answer I can offer is another question. What does insomnia sound like?
It feels slightly ill, yet one is firmly grounded. The fight to prevent the body's urge to shut itself down for the day is not sabotaged after all. There are side effects. An insomniac often finds oneself trying to put two and two together to form a coherent pattern only to have a third element come along to involuntarily derail the attempt to mentally bind the former two. Thoughts become verbal in neither a spoken nor sung voice. The brain has neither the energy to allow these words or thoughts to follow a speaking pattern nor cling to a single note without dropping down the pitch. There's a constant battle between frustration, angst, euphoria, and meditation -- all which serve to prevent oneself from realizing that "Goddamnit! I can't go to sleep! WHY??"
Jandek was in complete control over a backing band who were well trained soldiers that were seemingly sleep deprived, yet they fought hard and did their job. All Jandek had to do was turn his head slowly to the band to let them know when a song was going to end, and the song would end. Jandek, Harris, and Dennison took turns thoughout the set singing the lyrics on music stands purposely showing no emotion or drive, letting each his or her lack of struggle to hold onto a note falter.
This was a strange juxtaposition to Jandek's occasional slow paced knee strutter as he concentrated on playing jarring dissonant chords and singular notes in no set rhythm pattern. Guitar resonance was avoided as much as possible. Whenever Jandek made a "right" sound, it was clearly a mistake.
Coones and Amos were an excellent, dynamic rhythm section that provided the two elements of groove that occasionally blended, only to have Jandek turn around and fire off another round of guitar sickness to obfuscate the groove. Coones played blues-y bass lines that were the main rhythm foundation, whereas Amos followed both Coones and Jandek, erratically petting and exploding all over his drum set alternately. Harris and Dennison made for great still life vocal counterparts to Jandek's singing, all coming together on the long, loud, and disturbing song involving a repeating chorus with the lyric "You Belong To Me".
Jandek may not know or care about the early 80's days of Glenn Branca or Sonic Youth, however the louder songs of the set did bring these two artists to mind. There was no way to make other such comparisons with the slower songs. Amos got up during one such song only to lie on the floor in front of his rig as he softly tapped the front of his kick drum with his soft mallets. Amos could have been in a mild trance halfway through -- until, of course, Jandek turned around.
I wasn't sure if my amazement with the show was due to the band's ability to make me feel like I had mentally lost something I did not lose, or the fact that it took me ten minutes after the show to realize I had witnessed The Legendary Jandek as opposed to possibly one of the most unique live bands I've ever seen. Mysterious musicians are fun to talk about, but musicans who are extremely subtle masters of deliberation make one speechless.
― gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Saturday, 28 October 2006 07:25 (eighteen years ago) link
Stoic is too flamboyant an adjective to describe Jandek. His hollow cheeks somehow symbolize/embody his aesthetics, a gaunt version of rock, rock as void. Even when Jandek and his band "rocked out," you could sense the enervation and futility of their endeavor, and for some reason this deadpan nullity resonated to your core. Never have I been so numb yet so riveted at a show.
Most of his Seattle set was a flatline, grayscale trawl that had no particular place to go, not in this lifetime, and many of the songs sounded like defeated/deflated cover versions of Syd Barrett's "Maisie" or Low at their most lethargic and drained of whatever belief system they misguidedly cling to.
With Johnny Cash dead, Jandek is the man in black. He walked off the stage without acknowledging the crowd's desultorily rapturous applause and grabbed what looked like an old-fashioned doctor's bag before vanishing.
― opalescent arcs (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 28 October 2006 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link
seeing him tomorrow in easthampton. word on the street is he requested "a country band" to back him up. yeeeeeha!
― scott seward, Friday, 30 September 2011 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link
how was this? who backed him? tell me tell me tell me.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Sunday, 2 October 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link
ian if i am understanding you right there's this
Country & Western Jandek Was Unreal Tonight. The Image Of Him Jumping Up And Down And Playing His Harmonica...
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link
jandek is going to be live on WFMU today! is this his first radio bcast? omg. http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/BT
― tylerw, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
oh no there have been quite a few.
he was on East Village Radio a couple of weeks ago.
http://www.eastvillageradio.com/content/content.php?id=3430
pretty great performance, i thought, with a nice harmonica ending
― Ludo, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.eastvillageradio.com/upload/images/Jandek440.jpg
― Ludo, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
cool...this one seems to be with a "a full acoustic/voice ensemble".
― tylerw, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
maybe the Boss inspired him and the Rep gathered a gospel choir, to chant about shepherds and flocks and what have you. we'll see :)
― Ludo, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
don't hear any choir, this sound pretty classic jandek voice & guitar
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
haha oops that a track from later on lol
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, set hasn't started yet... seems to be about to kick off.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
sort of sounding like free jazz mazzy star currently
― tylerw, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
haha totally....some of the quieter parts remind me of ECM records type stuff but more random sounding
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
yeahhh, jandek garbarek. the man is playing piano i take it?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
oh lol, he was playing drums.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
jandek garbarek
^^haha display name alert!
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
hee hee. ok, now i'm going to listen to that Train album. What a world!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link
saw Jandek in Austin tonight with a 5 piece backing band -- clarinet, xylophone, viola, bass, and random percusson.... very droning, sleepy and zoned waaaayy out there style performance, i loved it and almost nodded off, it was so hypnotizing!
― ilxor, Saturday, 16 June 2012 06:09 (twelve years ago) link
http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Susan_Alcorn/Jandek_Live_at_ISSUE_Project_Room
― tylerw, Saturday, 16 June 2012 15:42 (twelve years ago) link
http://vimeo.com/40774310
i am starting to think Jandek could be in the people who have figured out how to live thread
― Ludo, Friday, 15 March 2013 07:56 (eleven years ago) link
anybody else at the cafe oto show last night?
no guitar, he played electric keyboard all night with a dodgy electric piano preset. joined by john edwards and alex nielson who both stayed in rattling extended technique crescendo/diminuendo free improv mode. byron wallan on horns who kept sneaking in coltrane-esque phrases in between articulating jandek’s words with v descriptive playing (which i found quite distracting and a bit cheesy) right at the end wallan was blowing air through the horn and mutated it into a kind of jokey cackle. jandek closed his song book and that was it.
i’d guess about 1/3 of the crowd left during the show. nobody i was with enjoyed it at all. lots of chatter in the background from people who obv had no idea who jandek was / what to expect.
so jandek mostly stuck to the extremes of the keyboard, the real low notes and real high notes. pentatonic modes. his approach was often to execute an idea over a very long period of time, you’d get a pattern slowly crawling across the keyboard from the high notes to the low notes, very little harmony, just lots of twinkling keys, always avoiding repetition and logical motion- so no melody or cadences. spent a lot of time playing in F# pentatonic (all the black notes) so he could his swipe his hand up and down the keys while staying relatively consonant.
his vocal delivery/phrasing was remarkable. edwards/nielson were totally with him in that respect- the brief silences were great. although because his voice varies v little in mood/tonality I found it a bit jarring when they’d do their firey ~let’s get intense~ build-ups every time he said something ‘aggressive’ or w/e and kind of distracted from the jandekness
definitely enjoyed the evening. had me thinking a lot, never got bored. i think most people were disappointed with the lack of guitar. heard lots of grumbling around me. the electric piano thing was weird, because he’s such an intimate player and the fake electric piano is such a, uh, binary on/off type instrument, it made it less about the millisecond-millisecond inflections and accidental sounds and more about his phrasing, which while interesting, didn’t quite give off the same vibe as what you hear him do with a piano/guitar/chair/voice.
anyway, interesting night, glad I finally got to see him, i spent a *lot* of time with his music at one point in my life, find it fascinating.
he was stood next to us looking desperate to escape at the end. was gonna attempt conversation but he was hiding in his hat looking at the looking at the floor.
― Crackle Box, Friday, 5 April 2013 12:30 (eleven years ago) link
I was there. Really enjoyed it. Thought it was very 70's Miles. As for the leaving, bear in mind that Cafe Oto isn't the easiest place to get back from for a lot of people, so some people might have been forced to leave by reasons other than the music. I had to leave 90mins in, otherwise would've been a lengthy Night Bus trek home on a 'school night'.
― Wandering Boy Poet, Friday, 5 April 2013 12:45 (eleven years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdZRIt-CIAAUYJQ.jpg
― tench and pike, scaup and snipe (NickB), Tuesday, 7 January 2014 17:56 (ten years ago) link
whoa wait what
interview?!?!?
― sleeve, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link
David Keenan interview I think, or at least as far as I could decipher via a Marc Masters post somewhere (but that would be a likely candidate).
― grandavis, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 18:13 (ten years ago) link
And yes, apparently real.
aw, I was hoping Cosmo would get his first interview.
Anyone going to the Cafe Oto shows in February? No better way to spend Valentine's Day
― Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 18:33 (ten years ago) link
If I lived in the UK I would perhaps. Cafe Oto sure gets a lot of good shows. If only teleportation was real.
― grandavis, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 18:37 (ten years ago) link
can someone link to the source of that image??
― Mmm yes hello (crüt), Tuesday, 7 January 2014 18:44 (ten years ago) link
interview w/Jandek about Loren Conners from June: http://the-out-door.tumblr.com/post/53438923538/full-transcript-of-our-interview-with-jandek
― Mmm yes hello (crüt), Tuesday, 7 January 2014 19:14 (ten years ago) link
That's a great interview, just re-read it (though not sure if I read the full transcript before today).
― grandavis, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 19:24 (ten years ago) link
very interesting, did not know about that. He has quite a way with words.
― sleeve, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 19:25 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, I am psyched for that Wire interview. David Keenan can irk me sometimes, mostly just in his reviews at times, but his interviews are generally good to great.
― grandavis, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 19:37 (ten years ago) link
I just finished reading a stolen pdf of England's Hidden Reverse (because Keenan refuses to put it out in PB), and I hate him even more now than before, he is consistently wrong in his quasi-record-reviews in that book.
― sleeve, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 19:54 (ten years ago) link
Hah his reviews are really heavy-handed, and I completely stopped buying stuff according to his recommendation or taking his slams very seriously. I was pretty "disappointed" at his takedown of Lonnie Holley in a recent Wire. I mean, I get that he isn't for everybody, but Lonnie deserves a little more respect than he got, especially considering the fawning that some other "hippieish" music has gotten by him.
― grandavis, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 20:24 (ten years ago) link
um, he is putting out a revised edition later this year
xp
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 7 January 2014 20:27 (ten years ago) link
he's been saying that for a decade, I'll believe it when I see it
― sleeve, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 20:35 (ten years ago) link
believe, you of little faith
http://strangeattractor.co.uk/further/sap-summer-update/
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 7 January 2014 20:40 (ten years ago) link
This seems to be the most recently updated thread, so:
The Corwood Industries website is a real thing. You can now order Jandek CDs and DVDs (no vinyl) online. And not only does the website list both a phone number and an email address (someone call and post the resulting audio, please), but...Jandek takes Paypal.
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 00:51 (ten years ago) link
That...is weird.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 06:00 (ten years ago) link
One of the members of Jandek's band at the Echo show speaks: http://dalenickey.wordpress.com/2014/06/02/corwood-goes-to-hollywood-jandek-live-at-the-echoplex-may-24th-2014-concert-review/
(TMP) When you told Corwood that you had no musical experience, it didn’t matter?(KB) “I think that was their preference.”(TMP): What do you do?(KB) “I used to do web design, and now I’m project manager at a tech company.”(TMP): As far as preparation, was there any rehearsal at all?(KB): “No. I had anticipated there would be. We met at The Echo at 2:00 p.m. We waited a long time for the sound guys to get set up. Finally the sound guy went like, ‘do you guys want to try some of your instruments?’, At that point The Representative from Corwood said, ‘yeah, why not?’ Like it hadn’t been thought of before, But, because the sound guy suggested it, they’re like ‘OK, sure let’s do that’. So I picked up the electric violin and I just kinda started hacking away at that. And it sounded really rough. But that (sound-check) was basically the only thing we had other than a prepared set list which was not about songs, but just, ‘at this point you’ll work on this instrument, and at this point you’ll work on that one.’(TMP): No keys or riffs or anything like that?(KB) “No, not at all (laughs).”.....(KB): “Can I tell you something he said before the show that I will probably have with me for the rest of my life?”(TMP): Absolutely.(KB): “One thing the representative said to all of us was…‘there are no mistakes, if you think you made a mistake, go further into that mistake, and then it’s not a mistake.’
(KB) “I think that was their preference.”
(TMP): What do you do?
(KB) “I used to do web design, and now I’m project manager at a tech company.”
(TMP): As far as preparation, was there any rehearsal at all?
(KB): “No. I had anticipated there would be. We met at The Echo at 2:00 p.m. We waited a long time for the sound guys to get set up. Finally the sound guy went like, ‘do you guys want to try some of your instruments?’, At that point The Representative from Corwood said, ‘yeah, why not?’ Like it hadn’t been thought of before, But, because the sound guy suggested it, they’re like ‘OK, sure let’s do that’. So I picked up the electric violin and I just kinda started hacking away at that. And it sounded really rough. But that (sound-check) was basically the only thing we had other than a prepared set list which was not about songs, but just, ‘at this point you’ll work on this instrument, and at this point you’ll work on that one.’
(TMP): No keys or riffs or anything like that?
(KB) “No, not at all (laughs).”
.....
(KB): “Can I tell you something he said before the show that I will probably have with me for the rest of my life?”
(TMP): Absolutely.
(KB): “One thing the representative said to all of us was…‘there are no mistakes, if you think you made a mistake, go further into that mistake, and then it’s not a mistake.’
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 06:13 (ten years ago) link
awesome.
jandek must be as old as the rolling stones now
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 08:25 (ten years ago) link
I've seen him twice now and OK. It's cool hearing That Voice and That Guitar, but I was TKO'ed when The Representative got on the drums and started playing That Sound - one very large elephant trying to woozily tramp through a deserted cargo ship in a gale. So weird hearing it come out of a bog-standard indie rock club PA.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 09:12 (ten years ago) link
I was at the show documented on Manhattan Tuesday, and I didn't like it much at the time but I think I'd like to see him again.
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 10:20 (ten years ago) link
‘there are no mistakes, if you think you made a mistake, go further into that mistake, and then it’s not a mistake.’
Another musician is known for saying something very much along these lines, but I can't recall who now... anyone able remind me? Sounds like an Oblique Strategy too.
― NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 22:32 (ten years ago) link
Charlie Parker?
― Yarli Simon (rattled), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 22:45 (ten years ago) link
Jimmy Gilmer, of "Sugar Shack" fame.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 22:48 (ten years ago) link
I keep thinking Derek Bailey or Fred Frith, but apparently not. Maybe I'm just mis-remembering.
― NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 22:55 (ten years ago) link
Isn't that kind of a paraphrase of Eno's "honor your mistake as hidden intention"?
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 22:59 (ten years ago) link
I passed a marquee for the Star Theater in Portland, and…he’s playing tonight.
― bratwurst autumn (Eazy), Thursday, 24 October 2024 14:06 (one week ago) link