Alice Cooper: Classic or Dud??

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Hi! Now I think Alice Cooper is great! And I would recommend "Goes to Hell" as an album you should own! So...classic or dud?

jel, Wednesday, 21 February 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Unquestionably classic with the original band, middling in the late seventies, fairly undistinguished since. He ended up working with Desmond Fucking Child, which is always A Bad Sign. Still, a worthy thing at the start, and from what friends who remember those days tell me, the sheer amount of fear and loathing he generated among Concerned Parents and Newly Christened Rock Scholars alike make anything Marilyn Manson and Eminem have done combined look utterly mild. I'd go for albums like _Killer_ and _Billion Dollar Babies_ in a heartbeat.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 February 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

"Goes To Hell", I dunno, that's kind of some proto-crypto-Meatloaf shit. The original band stuff tho', hell yeah. "Love It To Death" & "Killer" are 2 of the best hard rock albums of the '70s ( = ever).

Duane Zarakov, Wednesday, 21 February 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Dud.

Omar, Thursday, 22 February 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Early 70's stuff is pure rock'n'roll genius, up until Welcome to My Nightmare. Also put out fantastic concept album on music-making computers in 80's - Dada, which is absolutely fantastic. Lots of classic stuff and nearly an equal amount of dud.

will casper, Saturday, 24 February 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
welcome to my nightmare

saw him on 'constrictor' tour - great gig - dull album

geordie racer, Tuesday, 15 May 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
FZ discovered him, you know.

Tad (llamasfur), Sunday, 22 December 2002 08:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Pre/including-Welcome To My Nightmare = Classic, Post-Welcome To My Nightmare, horrible.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Sunday, 22 December 2002 09:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I was listening to Love It To Death when I noticed this thread. CLASSIC. First two albums (Pretties For You & Easy Action) - nicely weird. Next few (Love It To Death, Killers, School's Out) some of the best straight-up rock ever. Next couple (Billion Dollar Babies, Muscle of Love) damned good. After that, it gets a bit silly and contrived, with the occasion good song here and there. His 80s metal is obviously horrificly bad.

Dave Fischer, Sunday, 22 December 2002 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link

bloody hell, it's Missta Helltime Producto who's taken the words straight outta my mouth this time
yeah, "Welcome" was still good, the next one - "...Whisky", something? - wasn't worth 'possum shit

t\'\'t (t''t), Sunday, 22 December 2002 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Ummmm....hello, people:

Alice Cooper: Classic or Dud??

Alice Cooper: Classic or Dud

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 22 December 2002 20:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I must have responded to one of the olther Alice Cooper threads. Anyway, I don't care for "Nightmare". Even thought the concept and production are similar to say "Billion Dollar Babies", the band sounds like Hollywood's version of rock. Then again, I haven't played it in years. Post "Nightmare" does contain a ton of schlock, but do search "Flush the Fashion".

Sean (Sean), Monday, 23 December 2002 03:22 (eighteen years ago) link

FLUSH THE FASHION is fucking brilliant in an unintentionally hilarious manner!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 23 December 2002 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I owned FLUSH THE FASHION as a teenager. "Dance Yourself To Death" is an awful song with a Family Ties-type setup (the kid's embarrassed by his partying parents, one of whom flaunts a T-shirt that reads "Gimme Pot, Not Booze"). "Clones (We're All)" is a hilariously hamfisted take on Devo/Numan. Oh, and this LP marked the first time I ever heard "Talk Talk."

mike a (mike a), Monday, 23 December 2002 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
SO i finally got meself "Love it to Death", "Killer", "School's Out", "Billion Dollar Babies", "Muscle of Love", and some greatest hits. Me happy.

Are "Pretties For You" and "Easy Action" essential purchases? I'm waiting until "Welcome to my Nightmare" or the later ones. are the late 70s ones alright?

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 00:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I just remembered some Beat Club performance footage of Alice Cooper, and just thought.. "Damn, Sonic Youth totally just ripped off that rock sound, bare and clean." Anyone know what album/era of Alice Cooper this would have been?

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 00:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Exactly what Ned said. Billion Dollar Babies and Killer are his best.

"Telephone is ringing..."

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:09 (seventeen years ago) link

One of the greatest ever. The orginal line-up is awesome, and Alice-the-singer is practically my role model. Flush the Fashion is (still) great, btw.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:29 (seventeen years ago) link

classic, though whenever I'm in this kinda mood I end up putting on the NY Dolls Rock & Roll rather than Alice's Greatest Hits.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Donut: I never heard Easy Action, but Pretties is skipable. The hadn't really developed their songwriting or band sound at that point. Some of it is kinda psychedelic. From Nightmare onward the LPs were definately less raw, but not bad. You've got all the good ones. I think Lace and Whiskey was mostly outtakes from Nightmare, but in a way it's better because it's less theatrical and more rocking. Rocking in a pro forma kind of way though. From the Inside has Bernie Taupin lyrics but even more canned-sounding production. For a fan, it's listenable but not essential.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Yay DB! What a good person you are. But you didn't get the stuff I had on the box set when you were down here? SHAME. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 06:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I concur that the first 2 are non-essential. But they do have their moments.

nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 06:43 (seventeen years ago) link

No More Mr Nice Guy!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 06:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Up till "Welcome to My Nightmare" Classic

Afterwards, dud.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 06:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Micheal Bruce rooled.

Speedy Gonzalas (Speedy Gonzalas), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 08:33 (seventeen years ago) link

nine months pass...
Has anyone else seen this new Staples commercial with Alice Cooper? He's going back-to-school shopping with his 'daughter' (it could really be his daughter, but I have no idea, so I'm assuming it's an actress) and she looks sulky and says "I thought you said 'School's out forever.'" And Alice says, "No, what I actually said was 'School's out for SUMMER'" and continues picking up school supplies. Now, I'm no Alice Cooper expert, but don't the lyrics go "School's out for summer/School's out forever"? Is Alice Cooper willfully misquoting his own lyrics for a buck?

n.a. (Nick A.), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:49 (sixteen years ago) link

School has also been blown to pieces.

"No, I said 'no more Mr. Clean..."

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Indisputable *cluck* dud.

CHICKENS_EVERYWHERE (briania), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:36 (sixteen years ago) link

But seriously...

A co-worker of a certain age want to a show last week, and apparently the guillotine was nowhere in sight. Does this mean that "Good Alice" has finally won out?

briania (briania), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Alice has gone all revisionist of late. He now prefers to harkin back to his "garage" days (ala Pretties For You), pre-guillotine era.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I think I have around 11 AC albums now...

Flush the Fashion is great because Alice Cooper invented electroclash.

"From the Inside" is a favourite, Tauplin is the man!

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link

You know, I think that any artist who can be described as having a "pre-guillotine era" is classic any day of the week.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:56 (sixteen years ago) link

this recent quote is pretty classic: "If you're listening to a rock star in order to get your information on who to vote for, you're a bigger moron than they are."

dan (dan), Thursday, 26 August 2004 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Classic. I'm old enough to remember playing a brand-new eight-track of 'School's Out' at the breakfast table when I was 9 -- Xmas '72.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 26 August 2004 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
All the albums with the original line up are fantastic, muscle of love does have its not-so-good moments though.

Dennis Dunaway is without a doubt the greatest, individual sounding and [anti]-melodic bass player OF AAALLL TIIIIIME!!!!!!!!

p.s i urge anyone who rates alice cooper on the cheese rock hes been doing for the last 20-odd years to buy the alice cooper cd that you always see going for about £2.99 in record shops. its usually called Nobody Likes Me,Nobody Like Me,Snorting Anthrax or 1969 Toronto Rock N Roll Revival. its garagy trashy psycho-delia. (ignore the 'going to the river' and 'ain't that just like a woman' tracks though cos they've got nothing to do with alice cooper as far as i know. UNLESS they are Gene Vincent tracks as the Alice Cooper group played as GV's backing band at the very same festival. it WAS going to be The Doors but they didn't for some reason)

trust me it'll be the best bargain you've ever bargained on!

Mr Demeanor, Sunday, 5 June 2005 12:00 (sixteen years ago) link

That's Ronnie Hawkins on those two tracks, Mr. D. And yeah, I've seen that thing for sale under DOZENS of titles. All of which (as well as wrongly identifying those two Hawkins songs) even mistitle every ACTUAL Alice song! Not that most people would know, since those AC songs are (almost) entirely taken from their first two LPs, long out of print. And the actual titles are super-weird anyways and seemingly have nothing to do with the actual lyrics, when there are any.

CLASSIC for the first four albums, including those bizarre & hard-to-find first two (which many people dislike but not me.) LESS CLASSIC but still fair-to-great for the next four. After that, mostly DUD, tho with the occasional great moment. ("Clones" aside, I've never heard Flush The Fashion myself, but lotsa people like it so I give it the benefit of the doubt.)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Sunday, 5 June 2005 12:55 (sixteen years ago) link

i got trash it's brilliant.
looks like dave gahan (depeche mode) on first album.

calice ooper, Sunday, 5 June 2005 13:30 (sixteen years ago) link

No one's mentioned "Poison"!!!!

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 5 June 2005 13:46 (sixteen years ago) link

No one's mentioned "Poison"!!!!

That's `cos it's CRAP, Alfred.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 5 June 2005 14:07 (sixteen years ago) link

There's a great live album recorded at the Whisky in '69 which is all songs from the first album. I love their early psycho-delic garage sound as Myonga called it. 30 Seconds Before the Worm, Today Mueller, BB on Mars... great stuff.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Sunday, 5 June 2005 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

OK, voice of dissent here. I think Pretties for You is utter crap - one of the worst psychedelic albums. Rather listen to Inna-Gadda-Da-Vida or 1st Vanilla Fudge just about any day.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 5 June 2005 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I've not heard much AC, but my older brother taught me to sing "Poison" when I was 5. 15 years later, I still remember every word despite not having heard it for said amount of time. This annoys me, I don't know why.

(Yes, I'm a very young person.)

Roz (Roz), Sunday, 5 June 2005 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Ha ha. But Tim, I like that stuff too!

walter kranz (walterkranz), Sunday, 5 June 2005 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Wow, no love for Pretties For You and Easy Action at all... I've long since gotten those CDs and I think they both might be two of my faves of the bunch...

Pretties For You sounds like a Beatles-cum-Zappa album but in mostly great ways. the recording quality is inconsistent, but the songs are quite solid.. the best one is "Levity Ball"..

Easy Action seers all the way through. "Lay Down And Die, Goodbye" is Alice's best song, period.

donut debonair (donut), Monday, 6 June 2005 00:24 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't actually own the first album and it's been a while since I heard it but from what I remember, the versions on that '69 live CD are way better in terms of both recording quality & performance. It reminds me a lot of the sound of the Deviants' #3.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 6 June 2005 01:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Killer, Billion Dollar Babies: CLASSIC!
Welcome to my Nightmare, Goes to Hell: Classic but not enough for all caps.
The rest: I can do without. Unless someone wants to suggest some must-have tracks that stand out from the rest....

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 6 June 2005 01:41 (sixteen years ago) link

No one's mentioned "Poison"!!!!
- Alfred Soto (sotoal...), June 5th, 2005.

hey i nearly mentioned it
i'm 35 and grew up with "school's out ", "elected "etc but didn't buy anything of alice until "trash" - -poison is his best single,other songs like "bed of nails","house on fire" are so good - i might buy trash tour dvd but can't find it in Australia.
i'm learning "bed of nails" on piano.who wants sheet music copy ?
i'm willing to pay for alice cooper trash songbook

trash tramps, Monday, 6 June 2005 02:09 (sixteen years ago) link

From the menu at his restaurant:
"No More Mr. Nice Guy" Chipotle Chicken Pasta
Grilled chicken, sliced hot link, sun-dried tomatoes and chipotle cream sauce. $9.99 With shrimp and slised hot link $13.99. With shrimp, link and chicken $14.99. Yummy!!!

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Monday, 6 June 2005 03:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Poison is awful 80 hair-metal sounding--it's so UN-Alice!

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 6 June 2005 04:26 (sixteen years ago) link

The rest: I can do without. Unless someone wants to suggest some must-have tracks that stand out from the rest....

At the very least, "I'm Eighteen" from Love it to Death is essential.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 6 June 2005 04:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Has there been an Alice Cooper artist poll on here yet?

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 16:11 (two years ago) link

Top tier: Love it to Death, Killer, Billion Dollar Babies
Second tier: Easy Action, School's Out
Third tier: Muscle of Love, Pretties For You

It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christ (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 16:43 (two years ago) link

man, its so peculiar to me that anyone after the fact thinks that this band was at any time "the best rock band in the world," or even particularly good. Neal Smith, Buxton…fuck, all of the four instrumentalists' shit is pretty weak. Grand Funk and this band got the payday and acclaim that I would rather the Stooges and MC5 received. I watch that footage upthread, and I'm forever waiting around for this band to be revealed as the American Sabbath. But I always end up thinking it was correct for him to leave those guys behind, and I don't believe there's any other circumstance where I agree with "you're the star, you're the one with talent, ditch those losers." I'm surely the only ILMnik who thinks KIss is a sesquidillion times better than the Alice Cooper band.

veronica moser, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 20:27 (two years ago) link

I hope you are! Neal Smith was a great drummer and Dunaway churned out great bassline after great bassline, Glen Buxton was no virtuoso admittedly.

It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christ (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 23:21 (two years ago) link

... Michael Bruce, good songwriter.

It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christ (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 23:21 (two years ago) link

Yeah, Cooper's rhythm section was truly great and Michael Bruce was largely responsible for a lot of the evergreen Cooper classics that the solo Alice would never dream of leaving out of his live set.

Also, when listening to 'Halo of Flies', the band that I'm hearing doesn't square up with what veronica moser is saying/describing at all.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 01:14 (two years ago) link

Ok so you're calling the Cooper band weak instrumentalists then stumping for KISS who were completely horseshit musicians except maybe sober Ace

No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 03:46 (two years ago) link

he do scales

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 04:37 (two years ago) link

KISS are the single most overrated American hard rock band of all time.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 10:58 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

Listening a really nice 1st press Love It To Death I got for a song rn. Having never really gone post the hits until recently, I'm amazed how garage-y they still were. Perhaps the most Nuggets-ish of all the big early Hard Rock/Metal bands? "Black Juju" could pass for the Chocolate Watchband!

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 21:38 (two years ago) link

Absolutely! Garage-y while still having a decent degree of musicianship, I think, particularly the rhythm section of Dunaway and Smith. Bob Ezrin really worked wonders in keeping this band focused - apparently, he helped to tighten up 'I'm Eighteen' a great deal for one. I like Welcome to My Nightmare and - much later - DaDa a lot as "solo" Cooper collaborations with Ezrin and Dick Wagner, but I wish the band would have just taken a year off and realised that the theatrics were as much a part of the bands identity as the music.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 21:46 (two years ago) link

Bob Ezrin fingerprints are on the mixing board when the classic lineups of Alice Cooper, Kiss and Pink Floyd came apart (at least for the first time).

earlnash, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 23:09 (two years ago) link

You mean, Bob "Yoko" Ezrin.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 23:14 (two years ago) link

Vince?

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 June 2019 00:44 (two years ago) link

Vince Before Alice.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 16 June 2019 01:46 (two years ago) link

looking like a member of Wall of Voodoo

With an Extreme Burning (aka The Tormentor) (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 17 June 2019 21:46 (two years ago) link

Ha!

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 17 June 2019 21:55 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Lots of jams imo.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 August 2019 03:05 (one year ago) link

good list

I just checked Wiki and goddamn does Alice Cooper have a lot of albums I never knew about

Coop might be a great candidate for a listening thread actually

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 August 2019 21:28 (one year ago) link

listening to Dirty Diamonds from 2003, this is kinda...awesome?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 August 2019 21:36 (one year ago) link

I just checked it out on Youtube (it's a bit spotty w/some "you can't watch this in your country" omissions) and you're right! Rough production that doesn't sound like 256 overdubbed guitars with the treble rolled off and a few really strong tracks.

With an Extreme Burning (aka The Tormentor) (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 19 August 2019 12:46 (one year ago) link

yeah I mean not like an early 70s record but I was pretty impressed

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 August 2019 12:50 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

New single: "Don't Give Up"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__YxWnRACxI

Brad C., Friday, 15 May 2020 22:29 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKO6zKPfb8A

The Alice Cooper Band in Diary of A Mad Housewife

“Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 16 July 2021 05:56 (two weeks ago) link

oh wow the end of that clip rules

Dennis Dunaway wrote about this in his book. Apparently that's olive oil that Alice is hosing down the crowd with, so that the feathers would stick to their clothes.

henry s, Friday, 16 July 2021 12:30 (two weeks ago) link

Kinda hard to imagine Richard Benjamin as an Alice Cooper fan.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Friday, 16 July 2021 12:38 (two weeks ago) link

Definitely more of a Leo Sayer guy.

henry s, Friday, 16 July 2021 13:45 (two weeks ago) link

We know Neil Young watched this movie at the time, wonder what he made of that scene?

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 16 July 2021 14:16 (two weeks ago) link

I think the Cooper group lived in Topanga Canyon at this time, so Neil was probably well aware of their antics.

henry s, Friday, 16 July 2021 14:31 (two weeks ago) link

He tried to persuade Crosby to tear up a pillow onstage.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 16 July 2021 14:52 (two weeks ago) link

XP...and David Briggs produced their second album.

Drummer Neal Smith later said of the record producer David Briggs, "David hated our music and us. I recall the term that he used, referring to our music, was 'Psychedelic Shit'. I think Easy Action sounded too dry, more like a TV or radio commercial and he did not help with song arrangement or positive input in any way."

“Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 16 July 2021 14:54 (two weeks ago) link

Pretty amazing, the progress they made going from Briggs to Ezrin.

henry s, Friday, 16 July 2021 15:54 (two weeks ago) link

The same year, Briggs worked well with Spirit on Twelve Dreams of Doctor Sardonicus, which was pretty psychedelic, although I'm sure they were more instrumentally competent than the Alice Cooper band at that point.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 16 July 2021 16:05 (two weeks ago) link

Just watched that “Super duper Alice Cooper”

The first half was quite interesting, up to the ‘band’ splitting. The descent and recovery of his solo years managed to gloss over all his ‘solo’stuff in favour of pics with Sinatra and Dali and his eventual “nightmare 2” show, but hey..

Mark G, Friday, 16 July 2021 18:39 (two weeks ago) link

Alice Cooper on The Snoop Sisters (one of the revolving programs that fell under the NBC Mystery Movie umbrella alongside Columbo and Quincy):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubIQeWtmK9o

Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Friday, 16 July 2021 18:49 (two weeks ago) link

The descent and recovery of his solo years managed to gloss over all his ‘solo’stuff in favour of pics with Sinatra and Dali and his eventual “nightmare 2” show, but hey..

It can be a challenge to talk about albums when the artist doesn't remember making them...

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 16 July 2021 19:28 (two weeks ago) link

I saw him on that Special Forces tour and man, what a wreck he was in those days. At least on the From The Inside tour he had that just-out-of-rehab energy. Just a couple years later he was a virtually unrecognizable wraith.

henry s, Friday, 16 July 2021 20:32 (two weeks ago) link

I've read a few online reviewers who admire those early 80s records (which I haven't heard), is that a defensible position?

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 16 July 2021 20:51 (two weeks ago) link

I quite liked Flush The Fashion, but had and have no use for Special Forces. I don't think I've ever heard Dada.

henry s, Friday, 16 July 2021 21:15 (two weeks ago) link

Flush The Fashion was easily better than the (3?) studio albums that preceded it - From The Inside, Lace And Whiskey, Goes To Hell.

henry s, Friday, 16 July 2021 21:17 (two weeks ago) link

Classic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJpqK8ZZbaA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDgNNbyoWdk

This changed my life trajectory when I saw it as a nine year old.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 16 July 2021 21:21 (two weeks ago) link

I've read a few online reviewers who admire those early 80s records (which I haven't heard), is that a defensible position?

I like them. DaDa is a weird, dark fuckin' album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7rnFIsoYbM

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 16 July 2021 22:04 (two weeks ago) link

Yes, Dada's pretty good.

Wouldn't disgrace a Michael Jackson (Tom D.), Friday, 16 July 2021 22:16 (two weeks ago) link

Flush The Fashion is one of my favourite Alice Cooper albums, but Special Forces is weak. Haven't heard Dada actually.

bovarism, Friday, 16 July 2021 22:19 (two weeks ago) link

Cooper reportedly has no recollection of recording DaDa, or the preceding albums Special Forces and Zipper Catches Skin, due to substance abuse. Cooper stated "I wrote them, recorded them and toured them and I don't remember much of any of that",[8] though he toured only Special Forces.[9] In 1996 Cooper said that DaDa was the scariest album he ever made,[10] and that he never had any idea what it was about. There was no tour to promote DaDa, and none of its songs have ever been played live.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 18 July 2021 03:45 (two weeks ago) link

Dick Wagner and Bob Ezrin really held DaDa together, and they created one hell of a creepy album. As far as theatrical "shock rock" goes, I'd list this LP right up there with Coop's best. "Pass the Gun Around" is particularly unsettling.

A. Begrand, Sunday, 18 July 2021 18:08 (two weeks ago) link


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