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sorry if there has already been a thread on this, i couldnt find one. ive had the 'tired sounds of' for a while, and think its very pretty, and deserty, and empty.

but this weekend, i went and got their first album, music for nitrous oxide, and, it feels somehow darker, and forested

with both, i have the sort of sensation of being in a porcelain bath, on the dry flats of the aral sea.

i havent heard anything in between these 2 records, so how does the rest of it pan out, and what do you think of these 2

and also, i think i might have dismissed them, subconsiously, for a long time without hearing them, as being 'another kranky band', which is fine and all, i guess. but, from what i've heard, these stand some way above that, and dont really seem particurlarly connected to the kranky sound?

charltonlido (gareth), Sunday, 6 June 2004 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link

the preacher samples on 'down' strike me as unneccessary, cheapening it somehow. having said that, i suppose its a tried and tested postrock trick to do that now, maybe less so in 94, and before all those boring gybe bands started doing it

charltonlido (gareth), Sunday, 6 June 2004 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link

They're a band who I enjoy very much without ever having them immediately leap to mind as obvious favorites. Like the good folks of Windy and Carl, who also made a move to Kranky after initial releases, there's beauty in the soothing minimalism but W&C are notably much more lush and, for lack of a better term, cascading, while Stars aim more for a continuous extension of mood. In that Kranky made its initial name with Labradford there's something of a connection to the label ethos as vaguely considered.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 6 June 2004 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link

I heart SotL big time.

For some reason Jessica Balliff comes to mind as a kindred soul on Kranky. Both are great choices for long lonely road trips, I think.

harshaw (jube), Sunday, 6 June 2004 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link

For me, everything I found affecting and great about W&C was rendered in a lifeless and pointless way by SOTL. I've grown to appreciate them a little more over time, but I could listen to CDs eight hours a day for the rest of my life and still not think to take anything by them off the shelf

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 7 June 2004 08:33 (fifteen years ago) link

The first album is probably still my favorite. I like the cheapness of it, the mixed in radio, etc. The albums in between the ones you have sound more like each other than the ones you have. That is, your two are the furtherest apart in terms of sound of any of their records. I say go for The Ballasted Orchestra next, which I believe is 4-track like the first one.

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 7 June 2004 12:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Both are great choices for long lonely road trips, I think.

stars of the lid on a road trip? i would fall asleep in 10 minutes.

cutty (mcutt), Monday, 7 June 2004 12:15 (fifteen years ago) link

no one ever talks about that labradford/stars of the lid split 12". and it's pretty nice.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 7 June 2004 12:22 (fifteen years ago) link

strangely, cutty, putting ambient on while driving focuses my mind and generates lots to think about, which keeps me awake.

i suggest you try it (with a passager in case you go under)

harshaw (jube), Monday, 7 June 2004 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
has there been anything since tired sounds?

what it like?

charltonlido (gareth), Sunday, 17 April 2005 23:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Hmmm...I'm not sure! *checks CDs* Tired is definitely the last of the four I have.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 17 April 2005 23:43 (fourteen years ago) link

The Dead Texan !! (beautiful stuff, also on cranky, i think)

pod thai, Monday, 18 April 2005 00:03 (fourteen years ago) link

one of the best live shows i've ever seen.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 18 April 2005 01:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Avec Laudenum came out after the Tired Sounds on Kranky, but was
released before it on some other label. I know they have a new
one coming out pretty soon. An upcoming track was included on Kranky's new "Kompilation". Dead Texan is good, as mentioned,
but I find myself going back to Tired Sounds and Ballasted Orchestra
more.

Zach S, Monday, 18 April 2005 02:37 (fourteen years ago) link

ahhh, i would love a new SOTL album.

fucking geniuses.

cutty (mcutt), Monday, 18 April 2005 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link

I have not come around on Ballasted Orchestra yet. Not as obviously gorgeous as Tired or Gravitational. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Is this a phase that everyone goes though on that album, like puberty?

Lukas (lukas), Monday, 18 April 2005 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link

what do you think of the dead texan record, should i get it? i like the one track ive heard, aegena airlines? its quite different, a little more, er, forceful is the wrong word, but it seems more focussed/traditional, less vague (this doesnt make it better or worse). how is the rest of the lp?

has mcbride done anything since tired sounds (other than playing upfront for fulham thati s. actually, isnt that mcbride a texan too?)

charltonlido (gareth), Sunday, 24 April 2005 10:57 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
ive been going back to music for nitrous oxide again recently, and its much more abrasive than i'd remembered, i love the live lid track!

charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 19 May 2005 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...
Brian McBride is releasing an album at the end of the month, "When the Details Lost Their Freedom". This page has mp3s and a little bit about his divorce.

http://www.brainwashed.com/common/htdocs/discog/krank088.html

Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 02:24 (fourteen years ago) link

wait sorry i think they're partial mp3s.

Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 02:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Was wondering about him! Dug Wiltzie's Dead Texan thing but was definitely curious about the other half

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 02:33 (fourteen years ago) link

new album plz.

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Revive, please. I saw Dead Texan on Tuesday, quite by accident, as they were supporting Final Fantasy. What incredible sounding music! I bought the CD/DVD afterwards, I was so impressed.

Are Stars of the Lid like that as well? If Gareth likes them, chances are I would, as well.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 07:45 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...
so good!

requiem for dying mothers part two is filling my room right now and sounds amazing

perhaps i am revealing my innocence, but i do not know what the name, "stars of the lid" refers to. do you?

terry lennox. (gareth), Sunday, 1 January 2006 10:11 (thirteen years ago) link

kate, yes stars of the lid are like dead texan, but less...resolved?

i love the aegena airlines track from that (http://www.brainwashed.com/common/video/mov/the_dead_texan-aegina_airlines.mov), rest is good, but not essential

terry lennox. (gareth), Sunday, 1 January 2006 10:20 (thirteen years ago) link

the brian mcbride album might be better than the dead texan.

cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 1 January 2006 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...
while waiting for new record:

adam pacione 'sisyphus' (elevator bath)

very similar vary good

andrewc, Friday, 3 February 2006 06:25 (thirteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
Any word on a new album? As I posted back in April 2005, they had a track on the Kranky Kompilation album that was listed as a song from their "forthcoming" album. Dead Texan, half of Stars of the Lid, put out an excellent solo album, as did Brian McBride, the other half. Where's the new album, dammit!?

I thought of them yesterday when I heard Harold Budd & Eno's "The Pearl" for the first time, and it struck me as Dead Texan-esque.

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Still no news... *taps fingers*

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Dead Texan is nice but not a solo album, it's a group (a duo).

sylvie and babs (sylvie and babs), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Dead Texan is nice but not a solo album, it's a group (a duo).

Oh, really? Whoops. I knew that someone else did the artwork and the videos for the accompanying DVD, but I didn't know there was a musical collaborator.

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay, I e-mailed Stars of the Lid to inquire about the new album, and received this in response:

"don't worry chief,
there is news and a new 2xcd 3xlp to come.


should be availible in march/april at the latest..."

I'm putting "Stars of the Lid Chief" on my business card, if I ever get one.

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Thursday, 12 October 2006 02:04 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

It's just plain odd, and quite possibly counterproductive, seeing SOTL at the top of the Metacritic list of albums of 2007. Kind of counter to their whole ethos.

Mister Craig, Sunday, 18 November 2007 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

it produces some pretty funny backlash comments though so i'm all for it

ciderpress, Sunday, 18 November 2007 23:13 (eleven years ago) link

Robin C. gave it a 2:
This is a joke,right? These critics have such a wacky sense of humour.

Chris C gave it a 3:
Indie kids decided that the new vogue was a bunch of random tones slowly fading in and out? Why didn't they send me a memo?!

Hehheh.

Mister Craig, Sunday, 18 November 2007 23:15 (eleven years ago) link

Best:

Matt A. gave it a1:
This album licks my balls. It's even worse than The Field and so I guess it makes sense in an ironic way that it beats out that atrocity of an album for best of the year on this web site. The critics need to get a clue that they aren't proving anything by raving about this crap. It's aimless electronic nonsense and anyone with ears and half-decent taste in music can tell you that.

Mister Craig, Sunday, 18 November 2007 23:15 (eleven years ago) link

Interesting that this was revived, I finally got around to hearing this today. It was pleasant enough. Good ambient music. But top of the list?

xpost
Those comments are hilarious indeed.

Bimble, Sunday, 18 November 2007 23:16 (eleven years ago) link

I don't understand why it would be counter to their ethos? Unless you mean it's odd to rate it competitively. But it's always fun to read idiot comments.

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 18 November 2007 23:17 (eleven years ago) link

ironically, this is probably their most "pop" record though in that there are clear melodies/passages in almost every track that stick out in my head and work as hooks, which didn't happen for me with most of tired sounds

it's a bit less minimal and more cinematic than any of their previous albums but i didn't really see anyone touch on this in any of the reviews linked from the metacritic page

ciderpress, Sunday, 18 November 2007 23:18 (eleven years ago) link

I noticed those comments earlier. And chuckled briefly.

Just got offed, Sunday, 18 November 2007 23:19 (eleven years ago) link

ironically, this is probably their most "pop" record though in that there are clear melodies/passages in almost every track that stick out in my head and work as hooks, which didn't happen for me with most of tired sounds

it's a bit less minimal and more cinematic than any of their previous albums but i didn't really see anyone touch on this in any of the reviews linked from the metacritic page

-- ciderpress, Sunday, 18 November 2007 23:18

I'd partially agree with that.. certainly the occasional track like 'Even If You're Never Awake (Deuxieme)' is markedly hooky by their standards.

Mister Craig, Sunday, 18 November 2007 23:22 (eleven years ago) link

i think my favorite part of that metacritic page is
GENRE(S): Rock, Electronic

ciderpress, Sunday, 18 November 2007 23:28 (eleven years ago) link

So, it's become imperative that I buy either "Tired Sounds. . ." or "And Their Refinement of the Decline." Either way, Is there any consensus on which is better to get first? From what I gather the consensus says Tired sounds is more so, and I'm not too familiar with, and don't want to burden myself with the arduous task of actually deciding for myself. Or, is there not much difference?

mehlt, Sunday, 25 November 2007 00:33 (eleven years ago) link

start with tired sounds, yes.

cutty, Sunday, 25 November 2007 00:37 (eleven years ago) link

*Should say "Not too familiar with "And Their Refinement. . ." I have, in fact, made my own decisions before.

mehlt, Sunday, 25 November 2007 00:54 (eleven years ago) link

tired sounds is more singular in tone to atrotd; atrotd goes for full-on widescreen euphoria, where tired sounds culminates with a series of endless blissed out drones. kinda like the difference between inner and outer space. both are some of the best music ever recorded imo so you need both really. even if you only start with one you'll get the other eventually.

going to watch them live on monday. gonna be sick.

r1o natsume, Sunday, 25 November 2007 01:02 (eleven years ago) link

I agree with the post above re: the singular tone vs widesceen thing, and that if you like the one you'll want the other eventually. Still, I'd say start with Tired Sounds, as it contains perhaps the greatest consecutive 15 minutes of music they've ever made - Requiem for Dying Mothers, Pts 1 and 2, which somehow manages to evoke the feeling of drifting around in North Atlantic coastal waves, or some impossibly long descent from the top of a tree as a falling leaf, or maybe just peaceful last breaths before dying, all without sounding nearly as gay as I just made it sound. And the rest of the album is nearly as good. Refinement goes for a more varied blissed out feeling, and succeeds, mostly, but if you dig the melancholy mood of Tired Sounds, you'll be obsessed.

Z S, Sunday, 25 November 2007 01:18 (eleven years ago) link

i was really upset by those metacritic posts.

cutty, Sunday, 25 November 2007 01:29 (eleven years ago) link

Of the next 5-10 cd's I buy, there's a good chance both will be included. It's honestly sometimes hard to fathom how much of an affect they can get out of so little, it's some of the most viscerally captivating and straightforward music I've heard in so long.

mehlt, Sunday, 25 November 2007 02:29 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

woohoo, live in Seattle at the Triple Door 4/18!!!
(with Christopher Willits and Lusine)

Mackro Mackro, Friday, 29 February 2008 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

sotl are so good at naming things :D

calumy (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 03:57 (eight months ago) link

five months pass...

it has been 12 years, 3 months, 16 days
since you last released an album
i go out every night and stars of the lid all day
since you last released an album

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 02:55 (three months ago) link

karl otm

sknybrg, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 03:27 (three months ago) link

otm

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 03:55 (three months ago) link

i got the new kyle bobby dunn album in today and was able to listen to about half of it before it got too late to play loud. it's really good, highly recommended for sotl fans. but soon afterward i grabbed headphones and went back to the source.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 04:01 (three months ago) link

Karl otm, of course. Wiltzie still busy with soundtracks it seems, there's a new one out I didn't know about. But nothing compares, obv.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 07:00 (three months ago) link

otm otm otm

Mr Jolyon Posts Next Door (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 07:06 (three months ago) link

otm-est

pomenitul, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 08:51 (three months ago) link

I also want a new SotL record. nothing scratches the itch in the same way.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 11:57 (three months ago) link

kyle bobby dunn got cancelled btw. read into it. pretty bad stuff

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:55 (three months ago) link

kyle bobby dunn got cancelled

What a time to be alive.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 13:56 (three months ago) link

Global is not kidding btw. It is pretty bad stuff and unfortunate to see.

By the way, Stars of the Lid were dicks to me when I opened for them once hah hah :)

Not a big deal, touring life is complicated, but still. Was not expecting it.

grandavis, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:54 (three months ago) link

I know, it's just such a strange sentence to read.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:58 (three months ago) link

They could be unpleasant to other bands and ppl putting them up etc, heard a story or two over the years.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 15:16 (three months ago) link

Yep

grandavis, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 15:27 (three months ago) link

Yeah, I heard of the Kyle Bobby Dunn stuff when it happened (it was discussed in another thread). His initial replies were dumb and not at all helpful, and he didn’t really deny anything. However, the accusations themselves were very vague - I’m not sure anyone outside that circle has any clue wtf happened or the nature of the transgressions. fwiw several people have mentioned his struggles with mental health (not that it’s an excuse for chronic bad behavior) and he also issued a blanket apology (very vaguely, to match the vague accusations) the other day.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 17:38 (three months ago) link

three months pass...

a new album by a winged victory for the sullen, the undivided five, came out a few days ago, for those who may be interested

dyl, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 01:26 (one week ago) link

On first listen The Undivided Five is pretty gorgeous. Not much of a jump from Atomos, but somehow a bit more intimate. If you liked Atomos, I can't imagine you not liking this.

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 05:22 (one week ago) link

Are Stars of the Lid a finished proposition?

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 09:41 (one week ago) link

nope, they're still going. they keep dropping hints that they're working on a new album, so we can expect it somewhere in the 2020-2027 timeframe

at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 16:28 (one week ago) link

At first pass I like The Undivided Five better than their first two albums – it feels less facile somehow.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 16:29 (one week ago) link

lol good song titles on the undivided five record ... "aqualung, motherfucker"

tylerw, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 16:33 (one week ago) link

It's no 'December Hunting for Vegetarian Fuckface' but I'll take it.

'Our Lord Debussy' is just a statement of fact.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 16:35 (one week ago) link

the Facebook post for the new AWVFTS album made it pretty clear we'll get a new SOTL album eventually; never feel like the former is an adequate substitute for the latter tbh

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 16:35 (one week ago) link

nice.
just listened to the tired sounds for the first time in a while a few weeks back — it remains miraculous.

tylerw, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 16:36 (one week ago) link

never feel like the former is an adequate substitute for the latter tbh

Correct. :(

Still, I had no idea a new SOTL album was even so much as hypothetically in the works. Gaudeamus igitur!

pomenitul, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 16:39 (one week ago) link

At first pass I like The Undivided Five better than their first two albums – it feels less facile somehow.

― pomenitul

i'm giving it another listen right now, but i felt similarly the first time through. i could be completely wrong, but it seems like wiltzie must handle a lot of the plaintive piano parts that form the skeleton of many of the songs. i say that because the piano resembles the piano from The Dead Texan (another wiltzie project, with christina vantzou). but i'm not in love with the layers surrounding the piano (often orchestral, or at least sampling orchestral instruments). i can't say why with any coherence. it's an odd thing to say about mostly slow music, but maybe the arrangements seem too busy?

at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 16:41 (one week ago) link

Pre-And Their Refinement of the Decline they struck just the right balance between cinematic classical and reverb-laden ambient. Everything that's come after (doubly so since they've temporarily parted ways) has leaned a little too heavily on the former aspect of their shtick imho.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 16:58 (one week ago) link

somehow i've never listened to their Maneuvering The Nocturnal Hum EP...*90s movie trailer guy*...until NOW

at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:01 (one week ago) link

yeah if anything "Requiem" is so affecting because it's an outlier at that point

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:01 (one week ago) link

xp Oh man, I love that record!

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:15 (one week ago) link

Great news about a possible new SotL, I too thought it unthinkable at this moment in time. Will give the new one a spin soon.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:16 (one week ago) link

Pre-And Their Refinement of the Decline they struck just the right balance between cinematic classical and reverb-laden ambient. Everything that's come after (doubly so since they've temporarily parted ways) has leaned a little too heavily on the former aspect of their shtick imho.

― pomenitul, Tuesday, November 5, 2019 11:58 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 18:25 (one week ago) link

I, too, agree. I've zero evidence to back this up, but my theory is that 'Refinement' was made - in part - with the following tour in mind. They came out - relatively, of course - guns blazing, with the string quartet and the whole shebang on stage. And it was beautiful! But they lost something with/after that album. I'm sure Pom will concur 'reverb-laden ambient' is a flawed description but it's close to the truth. Something of the profundity was lost, though.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 18:47 (one week ago) link

I caught them during their Refinement tour (on the top floor of a Masonic Temple, no less) and it was absolutely wonderful, but I remember thinking that it put the album the shame. So your theory makes sense to me.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 19:07 (one week ago) link

So AWVFTS are playing here in SF in April at Grace Cathedral, which, yes.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 19:37 (one week ago) link

i wouldn't be surprised that guys who make a living selling minimalism aren't the nicest. patience wears thin when the grasping classes contend

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 19:40 (one week ago) link

I get the impression that Wiltzie and Brian McBride are barely collaborating these days, but don't want to say anything definitive about the end of SOTL as a recording project. There was talk last year of a McBride solo album but it never materialized. My best guess is that SOTL will reappear periodically to tour, but that's about it, unfortunately.

JonR345, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 19:45 (one week ago) link

together we stand. divided we fall. trance syndicate. windsor for the derby. labradford

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 19:55 (one week ago) link

Aix Em Klemm, the Dead Texan

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 19:58 (one week ago) link

^^ both up there with the very best SotL ever did.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 19:59 (one week ago) link

I caught them during their Refinement tour (on the top floor of a Masonic Temple, no less) and it was absolutely wonderful, but I remember thinking that it put the album the shame. So your theory makes sense to me.

― pomenitul, Tuesday, November 5, 2019 11:07 AM (fifty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

my ex-wife was at that show if it's 2008, mtl

ت (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 20:01 (one week ago) link

Indeed it was!

pomenitul, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 20:06 (one week ago) link

I, too, agree. I've zero evidence to back this up, but my theory is that 'Refinement' was made - in part - with the following tour in mind. They came out - relatively, of course - guns blazing, with the string quartet and the whole shebang on stage. And it was beautiful! But they lost something with/after that album. I'm sure Pom will concur 'reverb-laden ambient' is a flawed description but it's close to the truth. Something of the profundity was lost, though.

― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, November 5, 2019 bookmarkflaglink

I don't understand what you mean that they lost something post-Refinement. That was their last album... what have they released that tells you they've lost something?

SOTL toured just a couple of years ago, and there are photos of them in the studio at that time. I get the impression that they work on it when they can but they just don't live in the same city and they have other lives. So it will come whenever it comes.

I saw Brian McBride perform at a Kranky anniversary show a few months back and he was terrific. I would LOVE a new solo album from him. "When the Detail Lost Its Freedom" is right up there with the best SOTL stuff.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 20:53 (one week ago) link

With 'with/after' 'Refinement', I meant 'with' the album, and 'after' the tour. Apologies for being unclear.

"When The Detail Lost Its Freedom" is indeed a huge album. Based on their solo/non-SotL efforts, a new McBride and Wiltzie collaboration would be so interesting. You can kind of hear the both of them branching out in different directions though.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 20:59 (one week ago) link

tired sounds is beautiful but impossibly remote

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 21:05 (one week ago) link

I get most of my new music from two sources - a podcast called Low Light Mixes, and an internet radio station called Sleepbot. As with Aquarius Records I always feel sad when I think about Sleepbot because one day it's going to end. Aquarius Records actually did end. I always used to imagine popping half-way across the world to San Francisco and going to Aquarius Records and looking cool but not buying anything, but now I can't even do that.

Anyway, Sleepbot plays a load of old Pete Namlook side projects, and also Stars of the Lid, almost exclusively from Tired Sounds and Refinement. I know almost nothing about them but was I surprised. From the name and song titles I was expecting something along the lines of Thee Silver Mount Zion, but they're a lot subtler. Tired Sounds stands out more and is sad even without the song titles. "The Lonely People (Are Getting Lonelier)" was written in 2001 but it makes me think of Facebook, Occupy Wall Street etc, a general failure to connect and incessant bot-driven imitations of interaction.

Ashley Pomeroy, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 23:01 (one week ago) link

I have some Low Light mixes from way back, glad he's still going

Only Blob Can Judge Me (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 23:14 (one week ago) link

Slow & Sleepy and I Fell Asleep At My Desk... are my go to mixes at bedtime

groovypanda, Thursday, 7 November 2019 09:49 (five days ago) link

I met Wiltzie once, he was...not especially nice. My gf and I went to see WVFtS on one of their first tours, and a very close friend in common suggested we "definitely" say hello for her, which is something I'm typically loath to do. I introduced myself after they played and I don't think his eyes ever left his cell phone. Maybe he was having a bad day.

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:23 (five days ago) link


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