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anyone know of some good funky prog rock break records?

Vitalski, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I've broken plenty of prog rock records.

Sasha (sgh), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

more along the lines of drum heavy stuff as opposed to the pastoral mellotron soaked epic gnome and wizard shit

Vitalski, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:52 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

there is no "gnome and wizard" shit in the genre to the best of my knowledge.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

But Pash, most people think prog = Rick Wakeman.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

for "gnome and wizard" shit, seek any record w/vocals by ronnie james dio.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yes ned, but I can't remember any of rick wakeman's rekkids featuing "gnome and wizard" shit. I mean they were pretty terrible, but pretty devoid of any s&s cack.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

not interested in gnome and wizard shit.. more funky hard drum stuff

Vitalski, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ALAN PARSONS HAS ROBOTS ROBOTS ARE COOL WITH THE DRUMMING

Sasha (sgh), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Dig :-)

Roger in Mokum (Roger T), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Check Magma's Attahk for lots of funky hard drum stuff.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Damnit, does anyone know what the name of the dude who does hip-hop instrumental albums with fantasy themes is? I think it's a LotR name. My joke has been foiled by my crappy memory.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Anyway, just buy Endtroducing and The Inner-Mounting Flame and you'll be fine.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

billy cobham - "spectrum"

not really prog, more jazz-fusion

steeve mcqueen (steeve mcqueen), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Cobham plays some samplable beats on the Mahavishnu albums too.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Speed up "Peel the Paint" from Gentle Giant's Three Friends albums -- works for me...

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Cobham plays some samplable beats on the Mahavishnu albums too.

He certainly plays a lot of beats on those albums, ha ha.

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, FUCKING sampleable. Why has there never been a Mahavishnu remix album? (answer: because it would probably be done by Bill Laswell)

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Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

well there are some ok ones to use for breaks too (I'm thinking now of his breaks in "Miles Ahead")

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dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:39 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

There is a tune on Lost Trident Sessions where he is playing straight-up jungle in like '74, for real. He already tuned his drums way up and was playing James Brown beats at over twice the speed, so there you go.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

See also the Italian band Area. They were known to spontaneously break into funk jams, like on the end of "La mela di Odessa".

I've always wished someone would sample Bill Bruford's china-boy extravaganza on "One More Red Nightmare".

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Atomic Rooster? Iron Butterfly?

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

dude who does hip-hop instrumental albums with fantasy themes = DJ Frane maybe?

superultramega (superultramarinated), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 15:29 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Nah, it was a one word name, starts with an E maybe? I just saw a few of them in the record store once and laughed.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 15:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

see also: gong (hands down the most 'fun' of all prog bands)

and the devi influenced tracks by brian auger's oblivian express.

mike bott, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 16:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Don't front on Wakeman. He OWNED when Yes played MSG last Thursday night. Their fans, however (myself not included), are the topic for another thread...

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 16:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the lotr breaks fella is:

http://www.suckadelic.com/main.html

I have the lotr one, which is only a little bit funny, unfortunately...

Conor (Conor), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

No, it wasn't that! Argh, this is going to kill me.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Btw, I have Mahavishnu Remixed playing in my head now, it's great.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, if you can find it, Igor Wakhevitch's "Materia Prima" starts out with the slowest, dirtiest beat ever - played by some French guy! Would have made early Funkadelic proud.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Jay Vee - tell us more! How was the show?

Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Weeeell: They played almost 3 hours. Steve Howe was on fire, Anderson sounded great and Wakeman was -- as I said -- OWNING. Squire was good for the first half of the set then played amazingly during the second and White, as always, did his job. The most amazing thing was at the very end of "And You And I" , during Howe's guitar line that leads into Anderson's closing verse, the entire place got up and gave Howe (+ the band) a 5 minute standing ovation. Howe seemed pissed he wasn't allowed to finish the song, though, which I thought was strange. The rest of the band seemed totally awed and teary eyed. It was incredible.
Then they did an "unplugged" set that included an acoustic version of "Owner Of A Lonely Heart'. They ended the evening with two encores: "Soon" and then -- past the MSG curfew of 11:00 and into hefty NY Union Workers' Overtime territory (I heard something like $25,000 an hour?!?) - they did "Starship Trooper".
Some of the songs I remember losing it over they sounded so luvverly:

South Side Of the Sky
Going For The One
Ritual (!!)
OOALH
Long Distance Runaround
Soon

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Did they play Heart of the Sunrise!?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I don't think they did. No, I would've remembered since it's one of my faves.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Wow, that sounds awesome. I guess they've been opening with "Going For the One", eh? I really should have went to the show here. One the only favorite bands of my youth that I still haven't seen.

Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, they opened with GFTO. Oh - and the Wakeman/Howe tradeoffs at the end of SSOTS were fire. I recommend catching these guys on this tour if you enjoy them. They're mainly staying away from the bulk of merde they put out in the early-mid '90s and sticking to lots of seldom-played classics. Including 1st and 2nd album stuff. Still no Drama material, though.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Starship Trooper encore! Favorite song ever.

57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Oh -- and Wakeman/Anderson did a lovely version of "The Meeting" from the otherwise terrible Anderson/Bruford/Wzzzzzzz... album

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I kind of regret missing the show.

Vitalski: It's an obvious answer but do you have Yes' Fragile? The second side is a goldmine. Side 2 opens with the first drum and bass track evah! Also check out the intro to "Heart of the Sunrise" and "The Fish" and the basslines to "Long Distance Runaround" and "Roundabout". Neil Peart is another obvious choice.

I find Inner Mounting Flame more or less unlistenable once I got past how virtuosic it is.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Ha, I have never gotten past it. Or more to the point, that's not why I like it...it just leaves all other fusion and prog the dust, hundreds of miles behind, in terms of screaming intensity.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I think it's the only record with which I've experienced the cliche that prog/fusion is technically dazzling but feels totally cold or dry on an emotional level. Where I actually do find the wailing guitar solos to sound cheesy and showy. I'm not totally sure why. It bugs me since I like McLaughlin with Miles.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

(Admittedly, I seem to generally prefer current fusion to 70 stuff, with exceptions.)

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

That's really interesting, since for me it's one of the only ones that manages to transcend all the tightly scripted runs and odd-times to sound like five guys playing their asses off, with fire to spare.

Return to Forever (w/diMeola), for ex., sounds more like emotionless showmanship to me. Fun in some ways, in no way deep like Mahavishnu.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Weeeell: They played almost 3 hours. Steve Howe was on fire, Anderson sounded great and Wakeman was -- as I said -- OWNING. Squire was good for the first half of the set then played amazingly during the second and White, as always, did his job. The most amazing thing was at the very end of "And You And I" , during Howe's guitar line that leads into Anderson's closing verse, the entire place got up and gave Howe (+ the band) a 5 minute standing ovation. Howe seemed pissed he wasn't allowed to finish the song, though, which I thought was strange. The rest of the band seemed totally awed and teary eyed. It was incredible.

I saw them in Lowell at the Paul Tsongas Arena last weekend (the last gig of this leg of their tour; I think the one right after MSG), which they were videotaping I believe for a PBS special and later a DVD release. They played The Beatles' "Every Little Thing" (an early cover of theirs, but very much revamped) as an encore instead of "Soon", plus "Starship Trooper" as the final closer. Great versions of "And You and I", "Ritual", "Turn of the Century"...

Minuses: They did a shuffle-blues acoustic version of "Roundabout" (like Clapton did for "Layla" on his Unplugged)--sounds too cheezy to me. Dean's inflatable set looked very (ahem) Stonehenge like.

That aside, I continue to be amazed at what a great show these guys still put on, since they're all like 55-60 years old. Plus, the a/c that night was non-existent, so it was like 85-90 degrees on stage the entire time for them.

Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Back to the original question, how about trying Herbie Hancock's Sextant or Can's Ege Bamyasi?

Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i want more music like magma too

chaki_burger (chaki), Friday, 21 May 2004 00:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I just listened to a few Gentle Giant songs that I thought might be good for this: "Knots" (Octopus) has some really crazy shit on it that might be good for sampling; "Nothing At All"'s (s/t) opening with a funky beat behind it would be nice; "Why Not?" (s/t) has a nice sample-able drum and bass bit (in the literal sense not drum 'n' bass) before the outro solo; "Alucard" (s/t) is pretty groovy and crazy; "Experience" (In A Glass House) has some nice bits; "Design" (Interview) is really cool an has a really cool drum break at about 4:27. I don't know what part of "Peel the Paint" has that one really cool bit before the guitar and sax part that leads into the chorus at about 2:04. You probably don't care about this anymore but whatever.

Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

remove the bit "I don't know what part of" before "Peel the Paint" for fuck's sake.

Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

and how could anyone forget Knots, the Gentle Giant remix album with Kid606, Blectum & Electric Company compiled by Phthalocyanine.

it actually exists. it's actually pretty good.

(Jon L), Monday, 24 May 2004 17:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Herbie Hancock's "Crossings", "Mwandishi" and "Sextant" will also satisfy some funky fusion music needs.

earlnash, Monday, 24 May 2004 17:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

d-longstreth had no taste for yes back then

http://www.avclub.com/article/dirty-projectors-david-longstreth-doesnt-think-the-35143?permalink=true

or so he claimed . . . but merriweather totally sounds like an homage to "lightning strikes" on the ladder (which starts out with a bite from the kinks ("phenomenal cat"))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R0vQryCqw0

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 26 June 2017 18:15 (two days ago) Permalink

is that really a Kinks sample or did they sample it from the Melltron? I never really thought of that particular soundbite as a Kinks thing.

frogbs, Monday, 26 June 2017 18:17 (two days ago) Permalink

all those people (fleet foxes, dirty projectors, animal collection) are fucking charlatan cunts

imago, Monday, 26 June 2017 18:25 (two days ago) Permalink

My fave prog at the moment is southern rock prog of barefoot jerry

Heez, Monday, 26 June 2017 18:28 (two days ago) Permalink

Mojo had at least one prog special that I have somewhere. Didn't they cover Patto recently too?

Stevolende, Monday, 26 June 2017 18:35 (two days ago) Permalink

i swear Mojo did an article on Van Der Graaf Generator once

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 June 2017 19:49 (two days ago) Permalink

"Pretty sure Mojo did a thing on Genesis too." Yes, they had Gabriel wearing a face stocking on the cover.

akm, Monday, 26 June 2017 21:52 (two days ago) Permalink

they've also done about 1000 paul weller covers. nothing against the jam or style council or anything

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 26 June 2017 22:06 (two days ago) Permalink

“I feel,” he wrote, “like 2009, Bitte Orca/Merriweather/Veckatimest, was the last time there was a fertile strain of ‘indie rock’ that also felt progressive w/o devolving into Yes-ish largesse.”

I suspect that Robin Pecknold was simply qualifying his use of "progressive" as being not of the symphonic type. Still, the roots of GAPDY had more to do with the efficiencies of art rock than the lofty ambitions of progressive rock. I guess comparisons to the former (e.g., Roxy, Bowie, etc) were too obvious and boring to use as comparisons.

doug watson, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 01:00 (yesterday) Permalink

Prog issue of Mojo (or Uncut)? All I remember was the free prog cd, which was not bad. But I stopped seeing those magazines maybe 7 years ago.

Been dipping into Supersister - Iskander, Saint Just - Saint Just, Shub Niggurath - Les Morts Vont Vite. Good times.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 11:17 (yesterday) Permalink

The actual prog magazine is such a mixed bag but it pleases me that there's a magazine in newsagents that even mentions Supersister, PFM and checks in on Jon Anderson to see how he's doing.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 11:24 (yesterday) Permalink

The prog issue of Mojo i have is pretty early, format of magazine is noticeably different to current.
Covered the main prog bands with an article each. may have had some more general overview.

There's a live set by Shub Niggurath around too. From June '86. I think it's pretty good but haven't listened in quite a while.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 11:26 (yesterday) Permalink

Just found out that last year Robert Jan Stips released a live dvd of him playing the first three Supersister albums on pianos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0gaKit6UjM
https://robertjanstips.bandcamp.com/merch/present-to-the-highest-pudding-dvd-100-minutes-cd-75-minutes-robert-jan-stips-plays-supersister

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 11:54 (yesterday) Permalink

... simultaneously?

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 12:01 (yesterday) Permalink

It says that in one of the descriptions but it probably varies

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 12:07 (yesterday) Permalink

I liked the second film but I totally missed this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romantic_Warriors_III:_Canterbury_Tales

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 12:52 (yesterday) Permalink

I listened to Gentle Giant's Acquiring the Taste for the first time in years today, and man it's fucking great.

President Keyes, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 13:06 (yesterday) Permalink

yeah I'm astounded how pretty that record gets at times - "Edge of Twilight" and "The Moon is Down" in particular

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 13:37 (yesterday) Permalink

http://www.mojo4music.com/3110/mojo-issue-222-may-2012/

they did a thing w/Hammill here but I swear they did a VDGG thing once (like I remember learning the band was super popular in Italy? does that sound familiar?)

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 16:22 (yesterday) Permalink

that is true

imago, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 16:27 (yesterday) Permalink

I knew they were popular in Italy but it wasn't Mojo that told me that. Having said that, I'd be surprised if they hadn't been featured before.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 16:29 (yesterday) Permalink

One of the five main features and not even mentioned on the cover.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 16:53 (yesterday) Permalink

When was the major remastering? Would probably tie in with taht.
I'm remembering that Pawn Hearts gatefold image of three of them on a plinth heiling presumably Hamill as being a lead image for an article. Thought that was Mojo but could be Uncut.
I presumably still have it somewhere, not been through my old copies in a while.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 18:04 (yesterday) Permalink

"Prog rock should get an additional pass because it spawned nothing. It came and then it went. Subsequent generations weren’t saddled with nutty synthesizer solos and odes to each and every one of King Henry’s wives. Prog rock remains a curio, eminently easy to avoid, to disregard.

...Kelefa Sanneh does not, wisely, make the case that prog rock is deserving of critical gravitas."

That Counterpunch piece is bs, such astounding ignorance. Prog's influence can be found everywhere, from post-punk to Janelle Monae to tons of metal bands.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/06/19/the-persistence-of-prog-rock

This piece isn't as bad. The book referenced, The Show That Never Ends: The Rise and Fall of Prog Rock by Dave Weigel is pretty good -- I'm almost finished with it. Despite going into a lot of detail on lots of key albums, for some reason he skips over King Crimson's Starless and Bible Black and Red albums.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 18:54 (yesterday) Permalink

Any surprise bands/albums in there?

I love Six Wives Of Henry VIII

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 19:01 (yesterday) Permalink

The book covers most of the biggies, plus mentions in passing a bunch of obscure Italian and other European bands. Do you mean bands that are questionable whether they're prog? I guess it spends more pages than I expected on Voivod. It excluded Henry Cow for some reason.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 20:08 (yesterday) Permalink

xxp

“We want our albums to last,” Robert Fripp, the austere guitar scientist behind King Crimson, said. In a literal sense, he got his wish: although the progressive-rock boom was effectively over by the end of the seventies, it left behind a vast quantity of surplus LPs, which filled the bins in used-record stores for decades.

lol that's p assholish

sleepingbag, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 20:11 (yesterday) Permalink

Also isn't true?

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 20:14 (yesterday) Permalink

Also there was a lot more about Hawkwind and Magma than I'd expected.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 20:15 (yesterday) Permalink

In the sense there weren't vast quantities of surplus LPs, which filled the bins in used-record stores for decades. (xp)

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 20:15 (yesterday) Permalink

you could say that about any rock records that sold in large quantities

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 20:18 (yesterday) Permalink

crimson albums are not cheap used anymore, but they certainly were throughout the 80's and 90's.

akm, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 20:42 (yesterday) Permalink

you could say that about any rock records that sold in large quantities

Yeah, it was equally true of Born to Run or Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:06 (yesterday) Permalink

The era of prog rock was a much, much smaller world. Ignorance—denotatively—abounded.

Yeah, this Counterpunch piece sucks.

jmm, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:11 (yesterday) Permalink

crimson albums are not cheap used anymore, but they certainly were throughout the 80's and 90's.

― akm, Tuesday, June 27, 2017 3:42 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is also true of any rock records that sold in large quantities!

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:11 (yesterday) Permalink

hell i pulled out my OG press of Love's Forever Changes (NM condition) and it cost me $8 back in the day!! the sticker was on the polybag

what a world. you could have beat the stock market buying records 20 years ago

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:13 (yesterday) Permalink

Yeah, I got those Springsteen and Dylan records for a buck or two at most; no more than a few bucks for the first Clash, Jam, Joy Division/New Order, etc.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:17 (yesterday) Permalink

when I collected vinyl in college a lot of those prog records outside of Yes and ELP were really quite difficult to find. KC records were fairly rare (outside of In the Court and Discipline), only saw one Gentle Giant LP, never a single VdGG or Magma. then again this is in Green Bay. but still.

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:17 (yesterday) Permalink

VdGG and Magma were always pretty rare, at least in Mpls

maybe in nyc or something? i dunno

records are weird, you can always tell certain bands sold strongly in certain regions

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:23 (yesterday) Permalink

Ha, Montreal was a good place for prog records in the early 00s. I picked up Pawn Hearts for a few bucks iirc.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:57 (yesterday) Permalink

I think I got a portion of one old proggers collection out of a bookstore in Bloomington back in the 90s. I got most of Tangerine Dreams' Virgin records, a Gentle Giant, Babe Ruth and three VdGG vinyl for probably $25 bucks.

earlnash, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 22:02 (yesterday) Permalink

Ha, Montreal was a good place for prog records in the early 00s. I picked up Pawn Hearts for a few bucks iirc.

― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r)

when i went to quebec in the late '90s (gatineau, not montreal) my friend took me to a record store called "the musical box". still got some stuff i picked up there. "pawn hearts" as well, soft machine's "triple echo" (at a time when finding that first single was utterly impossible). lost my copy of "in the court of the crimson king" though. :( also managed to pick up both "happy the man" albums in dc, where they were fucking everywhere used back in the day.

magma albums were hens' teeth - i don't know that there were ever any us pressings of them on vinyl. back when i was a major proghead i knew some folks who had magma lps, but it was super rare. they were a lot more accessible once they came out on cd, though again it wasn't until the late '90s when your average person had a chance of actually _hearing_ _mekanik destruktiw kommandoh_. so it was a little surprising to walk into a local record store a couple weeks back and find out they had multiple copies of most of magma's '70s albums (no mdk) on 180g vinyl. not as surprising as it was to find out that harvey mandel was still alive and had a new record out, but close.

Rodney Stooksbury for President (rushomancy), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 01:21 (twenty-one hours ago) Permalink

I finished the prog book last night, and then remembered that King Crimson are playing tonight down the street from where I work at the Chicago Theatre. Is it fate? The question is, do I want to pay $50 for a last-minute ticket to set in nosebleeds seats in the balcony. The setlist from the Mpls show has a pretty nice mix:

1 In The Court of the Crimson King
1 In The Wake of Poseidon
2 Lizard
3 Islands
2 Larks' Tongue
2 Red
1 Discipline
1 Beat
1 The Power To Believe

5 Unknown Newer Songs

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/king-crimson/2017/state-theatre-minneapolis-mn-53e4e75d.html

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 17:40 (five hours ago) Permalink

it's totally fate

in will romano's prog FAQ from a few years back, explaining the ongoing charm of these guys

http://www.themusicalbox.net/

and the still strong french-canadian prog scene, the real peter "rael" gabriel says that quebec may as well be a european country, and without early success in montreal, genesis maybe never would've been able to tour the states and blow up

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 17:50 (four hours ago) Permalink

Huh, Discipline and Beat? Curious about what they will do to those belew era songs.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 17:52 (four hours ago) Permalink

crimson albums are not cheap used anymore, but they certainly were throughout the 80's and 90's.

Pink label Island copies?

timellison, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 18:04 (four hours ago) Permalink

they are playing 'neurotica' but instrumental except for the 'arrive in neurotica' chorus; the only song from discipline they've been playing is 'indiscipline'. I still haven't heard it but it's the one song people haven't been enamoured with. they also do 'construkction of light' but with no vocals.

someone tipped belew off to this on his FB recently andhe didn't sound pleased, and stated they'd had an agreement they wouldn't play anything he'd written. But they've been doing Construkction of Light since 2014 or 2015 or whenever they came back.

akm, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 19:07 (three hours ago) Permalink

Just saw that, interesting. But not as interesting as seeing that he formed some sort of new band with Stewart Copeland and Mark King from Level 42.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygZyuB21gMU&feature=youtu.be

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 20:05 (two hours ago) Permalink

That Gizmodrome track sounds pretty good - never would've guessed it was made by such old-timers. Copeland sounds great, what the hell

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 20:33 (two hours ago) Permalink


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