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anyone know of some good funky prog rock break records?

Vitalski, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I've broken plenty of prog rock records.

Sasha (sgh), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

more along the lines of drum heavy stuff as opposed to the pastoral mellotron soaked epic gnome and wizard shit

Vitalski, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:52 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

there is no "gnome and wizard" shit in the genre to the best of my knowledge.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

But Pash, most people think prog = Rick Wakeman.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

for "gnome and wizard" shit, seek any record w/vocals by ronnie james dio.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yes ned, but I can't remember any of rick wakeman's rekkids featuing "gnome and wizard" shit. I mean they were pretty terrible, but pretty devoid of any s&s cack.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

not interested in gnome and wizard shit.. more funky hard drum stuff

Vitalski, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ALAN PARSONS HAS ROBOTS ROBOTS ARE COOL WITH THE DRUMMING

Sasha (sgh), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Dig :-)

Roger in Mokum (Roger T), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Check Magma's Attahk for lots of funky hard drum stuff.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Damnit, does anyone know what the name of the dude who does hip-hop instrumental albums with fantasy themes is? I think it's a LotR name. My joke has been foiled by my crappy memory.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Anyway, just buy Endtroducing and The Inner-Mounting Flame and you'll be fine.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

billy cobham - "spectrum"

not really prog, more jazz-fusion

steeve mcqueen (steeve mcqueen), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Cobham plays some samplable beats on the Mahavishnu albums too.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Speed up "Peel the Paint" from Gentle Giant's Three Friends albums -- works for me...

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Cobham plays some samplable beats on the Mahavishnu albums too.

He certainly plays a lot of beats on those albums, ha ha.

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, FUCKING sampleable. Why has there never been a Mahavishnu remix album? (answer: because it would probably be done by Bill Laswell)

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Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

well there are some ok ones to use for breaks too (I'm thinking now of his breaks in "Miles Ahead")

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dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:39 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

There is a tune on Lost Trident Sessions where he is playing straight-up jungle in like '74, for real. He already tuned his drums way up and was playing James Brown beats at over twice the speed, so there you go.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

See also the Italian band Area. They were known to spontaneously break into funk jams, like on the end of "La mela di Odessa".

I've always wished someone would sample Bill Bruford's china-boy extravaganza on "One More Red Nightmare".

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Atomic Rooster? Iron Butterfly?

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

dude who does hip-hop instrumental albums with fantasy themes = DJ Frane maybe?

superultramega (superultramarinated), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 15:29 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Nah, it was a one word name, starts with an E maybe? I just saw a few of them in the record store once and laughed.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 15:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

see also: gong (hands down the most 'fun' of all prog bands)

and the devi influenced tracks by brian auger's oblivian express.

mike bott, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 16:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Don't front on Wakeman. He OWNED when Yes played MSG last Thursday night. Their fans, however (myself not included), are the topic for another thread...

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 16:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the lotr breaks fella is:

http://www.suckadelic.com/main.html

I have the lotr one, which is only a little bit funny, unfortunately...

Conor (Conor), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

No, it wasn't that! Argh, this is going to kill me.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Btw, I have Mahavishnu Remixed playing in my head now, it's great.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, if you can find it, Igor Wakhevitch's "Materia Prima" starts out with the slowest, dirtiest beat ever - played by some French guy! Would have made early Funkadelic proud.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Jay Vee - tell us more! How was the show?

Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Weeeell: They played almost 3 hours. Steve Howe was on fire, Anderson sounded great and Wakeman was -- as I said -- OWNING. Squire was good for the first half of the set then played amazingly during the second and White, as always, did his job. The most amazing thing was at the very end of "And You And I" , during Howe's guitar line that leads into Anderson's closing verse, the entire place got up and gave Howe (+ the band) a 5 minute standing ovation. Howe seemed pissed he wasn't allowed to finish the song, though, which I thought was strange. The rest of the band seemed totally awed and teary eyed. It was incredible.
Then they did an "unplugged" set that included an acoustic version of "Owner Of A Lonely Heart'. They ended the evening with two encores: "Soon" and then -- past the MSG curfew of 11:00 and into hefty NY Union Workers' Overtime territory (I heard something like $25,000 an hour?!?) - they did "Starship Trooper".
Some of the songs I remember losing it over they sounded so luvverly:

South Side Of the Sky
Going For The One
Ritual (!!)
OOALH
Long Distance Runaround
Soon

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Did they play Heart of the Sunrise!?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I don't think they did. No, I would've remembered since it's one of my faves.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Wow, that sounds awesome. I guess they've been opening with "Going For the One", eh? I really should have went to the show here. One the only favorite bands of my youth that I still haven't seen.

Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, they opened with GFTO. Oh - and the Wakeman/Howe tradeoffs at the end of SSOTS were fire. I recommend catching these guys on this tour if you enjoy them. They're mainly staying away from the bulk of merde they put out in the early-mid '90s and sticking to lots of seldom-played classics. Including 1st and 2nd album stuff. Still no Drama material, though.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Starship Trooper encore! Favorite song ever.

57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Oh -- and Wakeman/Anderson did a lovely version of "The Meeting" from the otherwise terrible Anderson/Bruford/Wzzzzzzz... album

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I kind of regret missing the show.

Vitalski: It's an obvious answer but do you have Yes' Fragile? The second side is a goldmine. Side 2 opens with the first drum and bass track evah! Also check out the intro to "Heart of the Sunrise" and "The Fish" and the basslines to "Long Distance Runaround" and "Roundabout". Neil Peart is another obvious choice.

I find Inner Mounting Flame more or less unlistenable once I got past how virtuosic it is.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Ha, I have never gotten past it. Or more to the point, that's not why I like it...it just leaves all other fusion and prog the dust, hundreds of miles behind, in terms of screaming intensity.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I think it's the only record with which I've experienced the cliche that prog/fusion is technically dazzling but feels totally cold or dry on an emotional level. Where I actually do find the wailing guitar solos to sound cheesy and showy. I'm not totally sure why. It bugs me since I like McLaughlin with Miles.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

(Admittedly, I seem to generally prefer current fusion to 70 stuff, with exceptions.)

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

That's really interesting, since for me it's one of the only ones that manages to transcend all the tightly scripted runs and odd-times to sound like five guys playing their asses off, with fire to spare.

Return to Forever (w/diMeola), for ex., sounds more like emotionless showmanship to me. Fun in some ways, in no way deep like Mahavishnu.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Weeeell: They played almost 3 hours. Steve Howe was on fire, Anderson sounded great and Wakeman was -- as I said -- OWNING. Squire was good for the first half of the set then played amazingly during the second and White, as always, did his job. The most amazing thing was at the very end of "And You And I" , during Howe's guitar line that leads into Anderson's closing verse, the entire place got up and gave Howe (+ the band) a 5 minute standing ovation. Howe seemed pissed he wasn't allowed to finish the song, though, which I thought was strange. The rest of the band seemed totally awed and teary eyed. It was incredible.

I saw them in Lowell at the Paul Tsongas Arena last weekend (the last gig of this leg of their tour; I think the one right after MSG), which they were videotaping I believe for a PBS special and later a DVD release. They played The Beatles' "Every Little Thing" (an early cover of theirs, but very much revamped) as an encore instead of "Soon", plus "Starship Trooper" as the final closer. Great versions of "And You and I", "Ritual", "Turn of the Century"...

Minuses: They did a shuffle-blues acoustic version of "Roundabout" (like Clapton did for "Layla" on his Unplugged)--sounds too cheezy to me. Dean's inflatable set looked very (ahem) Stonehenge like.

That aside, I continue to be amazed at what a great show these guys still put on, since they're all like 55-60 years old. Plus, the a/c that night was non-existent, so it was like 85-90 degrees on stage the entire time for them.

Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Back to the original question, how about trying Herbie Hancock's Sextant or Can's Ege Bamyasi?

Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i want more music like magma too

chaki_burger (chaki), Friday, 21 May 2004 00:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I just listened to a few Gentle Giant songs that I thought might be good for this: "Knots" (Octopus) has some really crazy shit on it that might be good for sampling; "Nothing At All"'s (s/t) opening with a funky beat behind it would be nice; "Why Not?" (s/t) has a nice sample-able drum and bass bit (in the literal sense not drum 'n' bass) before the outro solo; "Alucard" (s/t) is pretty groovy and crazy; "Experience" (In A Glass House) has some nice bits; "Design" (Interview) is really cool an has a really cool drum break at about 4:27. I don't know what part of "Peel the Paint" has that one really cool bit before the guitar and sax part that leads into the chorus at about 2:04. You probably don't care about this anymore but whatever.

Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

remove the bit "I don't know what part of" before "Peel the Paint" for fuck's sake.

Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

and how could anyone forget Knots, the Gentle Giant remix album with Kid606, Blectum & Electric Company compiled by Phthalocyanine.

it actually exists. it's actually pretty good.

(Jon L), Monday, 24 May 2004 17:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Herbie Hancock's "Crossings", "Mwandishi" and "Sextant" will also satisfy some funky fusion music needs.

earlnash, Monday, 24 May 2004 17:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

A be-caped Keith Emerson:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pf3ywR5DERA/hqdefault.jpg

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Monday, 25 September 2017 15:08 (two months ago) Permalink

It's funny that Rick Wakeman got a reputation for wearing capes and his flamboyant keyboard style and for being a guy that is often held up as some sort of figurehead of prog excesses when of all the members of Yes circa Close to the Edge he was probably the most straight-ahead, no-bullshit, down to earth member who hated what he perceived to be the very indulgent nature of Topographic Oceans and Relayer...

― more Allegro-like (Turrican)

his "no-bullshit" nature didn't keep him from smothering "tales from topographic oceans" in indulgent birotron solos. and the dude can hate "relayer" all he likes. he wasn't on it.

bob lefse (rushomancy), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:10 (two months ago) Permalink

I thought Tormato was the one with the Birotron

frogbs, Monday, 25 September 2017 16:11 (two months ago) Permalink

OK, had to google Biroton.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:18 (two months ago) Permalink

ok, i guess it wasn't a birotron on tales and the album was really just smothered in plain ol' mellotron solos. if it had been a birotron i'm sure the album would've been yards better, as the birotron is to a mellotron what the vako orchestron is to the optigan.

from wikipedia: 'Wakeman played it backstage noting it sounded "more mellow than a Mellotron"' - but was it more chamber than a chamberlin?

bob lefse (rushomancy), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:36 (two months ago) Permalink

here's mellotron advocate mike dickson playing the beach boys' "prayer" on birotron samples. it sounds fucking awful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SqLl5fOokA

bob lefse (rushomancy), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:42 (two months ago) Permalink

I assume this is some Wiki vandalism in progress:

The Birotron (pronounced by-ro-tron) is a tape replay keyboard conceived by American musician and inventor Dave Biro of Yalesville, Connecticut, US, and funded by English keyboardist Rick Wakeman, Campbell Soup Company-Pepperidge Farm Foods in the 1970s.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 September 2017 16:44 (two months ago) Permalink

Last time I checked Wakeman loves Relayer.

I don't know what instrument he uses but some of the atmospheric washes in Topographic are gorgeous and among the highlights. Worthy of Tangerine Dream.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 25 September 2017 16:59 (two months ago) Permalink

for real, robert. those synth washes rule, especially in and around howe's acoustic picking and strumming in that 'second movement' / 'sidelong epic', up there imho with "close to the edge" and "the gates of delirium"

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 25 September 2017 17:49 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah the way the vocals are mixed in the washes is especially beautiful. One of the most spinetinglingly awesome Yes moments. I haven't heard all the 70s prog yet but so far I haven't heard much quite like it from that time.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 25 September 2017 18:00 (two months ago) Permalink

Have you guys heard the Bubblemath record (Edit Peptide)?

It's like Gentle Giant (minus the medievalisms) through a Rundgren New Wave/AOR hyperprism. Or something. The songs take off on some fairly dazzling mathy instrumental diversions but it's catchy and fun with lots of cynical wordplay.

Noel Emits, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 08:10 (one month ago) Permalink

I could be way off with those reference points, but I mention it because prog and new.

Noel Emits, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 08:25 (one month ago) Permalink

From the samples I heard I was looking forward to the KOYO self-titled debut (88 Watts). Press quotes mention Pompeii-era Floyd, Ozric Tentacles, MBV, Tame Impala. I'd add Radiohead. Having heard the whole album a few times, perhaps a bit too much sticky melodic sweetness, but parts do stand up to repeated listens.

The Adrian Belew/Stewart Copeland collab Gizmodrome is interesting and wacky, very squirm inducing. The sound of eccentric old rockers wagging their willies in their sick beds? Probably a curiosity to be lost and then found.

Caligula's Horse and Leprous are great but I'm really feeling the promo of the upcoming Wobbler. Leads off with a 21:49 title track "From Silence To Somewhere" that is as satisfying a journey as any chunk that large from the prog giants.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 13:19 (one month ago) Permalink

yea Wobbler are top-notch, I think they're one of the few bands (along with Glass Hammer, sometimes) that actually can nail that era of Yes without sounding out of sorts or totally derivative.

I dug the Gizmodrome album - I think it comes off better when you think of it as a Copeland-oriented project, almost like a direct sequel to his Klark Kent stuff. The "supergroup" aspect of the band doesn't really come through here, though I'm sure they're excellent live (Oysterhead were the same way, doing all sorts of 10-minute jams and oddball excursions, but none of that was on the record).

new Deluge Grander album appears to be on the horizon. I love everything they've done so far so I'm sure it'll be excellent.

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 16:54 (one month ago) Permalink

I know I saw Oysterhead live and I remember leaving early, because I fucking hate that Phish guy's playing.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 17:15 (one month ago) Permalink

Anyway, Belew is in the band but it sounds like a Copeland project? Is Belew singing and/or writing? I assume his guitar is as much a feature as Copeland's drums.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 17:17 (one month ago) Permalink

knowing Copeland's style, the songs are clearly his (plus, two are old Klark Kent songs). he does some background vocals I think. Belew's guitar is there and sounds pretty good (as always)

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 18:47 (one month ago) Permalink

fastnbulous, what does that Caligula's Horse album sound like?

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 20:19 (one month ago) Permalink

I haven't given the latest enough focused listens to write well about it, but it's their fourth album, and a step forward in songwriting from Bloom (2011). Comparisons to a harder rocking Fragile-era Yes are not completely out of bounds (they could do a great cover of "South Side of the Sky"), with a polished production not hugely different from Norway's Leprous, that I kind of wish were roughed up more. Some shredding metal guitar solos from Sam Wallen that make me half expect to hear death growls like mid 00s Opeth. Jim Grey's vocals are technically very good, but I had a hard time getting into it. The band has grown on me.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 28 September 2017 13:27 (one month ago) Permalink

I definitely thought of Opeth a few times. The first couple tracks on that album are immense.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 28 September 2017 13:37 (one month ago) Permalink

Sorry, Bloom was 2015. Their first album is 2011.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 28 September 2017 13:55 (one month ago) Permalink

Kaipa - Children Of The Sounds
Swedish symphonic proggers have been around since 1973. It's a good balance of accessible melodies and stretched out epics with guitar solos, pretty great!

Bubblemath - Edit Peptide
Checked it our per Noel's recommendation above. Kind of like an updated eccentric blend of socialist prog fusion like Henry Cow, Gong, Soft Machine. Not sure if it's going to exhaust me or grow on me.

The Contortionist - Clairvoyant
I'm not big into the Djent and deathcore stuff, but people are really into their previous album, Language (2014). I'll need to revisit that and give this some more listening time. It's definitely their smoothest sounding production.

Agusa - Agusa
Third self-titled album will be out Oct 27. Good ol JJ has a track preview here: http://theobelisk.net/obelisk/2017/09/28/agusa-self-titled-bertom-hemom-premiere/

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 28 September 2017 20:23 (one month ago) Permalink

Bubblemath sounds like it would be my kind of thing, I'll have to check them out.

nickn, Thursday, 28 September 2017 22:30 (one month ago) Permalink

Lör - In Forgotten Sleep
Folk prog with some power metal!
https://halloflor.bandcamp.com/album/in-forgotten-sleep

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 29 September 2017 17:23 (one month ago) Permalink

^^^great album

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 29 September 2017 17:26 (one month ago) Permalink

The Bubblemath (it's their 2nd album - the first was 12 years ago or something!) might seem very dense at first but it's addictive. Close to the top of my favourites this year, really fun and impressive.

Noel Emits, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 08:26 (one month ago) Permalink

Saint Just album is great, an odd little thing (you heard it Reggie?) Finished it and looking forward to the second one, some say the vocals are way more annoying, which is promising for me. Hipster kisses to Jenny Sorrenti.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 00:25 (one month ago) Permalink

both saint just albums are great. the second one is more straight-up "prog rock" but is still bad-ass. love the song on the first lp where jenny's brother alan guests on vocals. heard the first couple alan sorrenti discs? great stuff, wild "starsailor" type shit with jean-luc ponty all over the first one. i also have a bootleg of this band with david jackson on sax, totally badass.

any love for invisible here? i have been getting into some of their bootlegs; prog-rock spinetta is just so badass.

bob lefse (rushomancy), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 01:18 (one month ago) Permalink

Haven't heard Alan Sorrenti. Saint Just's third album is called "Prog Explosion".

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 01:23 (one month ago) Permalink

New Toby Driver thing was pleasant this morning: https://kayodot.bandcamp.com/album/live-at-roulette-march-2017

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 15:13 (one month ago) Permalink

As ILM's biggest Driver stan (probably) I'm embarassed I didn't know that even existed. Thanks sund4r!

ultros ultros-ghali, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 15:47 (one month ago) Permalink

Finished listening to Supersister - Iskander. It's a concept album about Alexander The Great. There was a line-up change, more jazz instrumentals and less songs than previous albums. It's definitely straighter than previous albums but people exaggerate how serious it is, a couple of tracks sound quite playful to me.

It's a bit of a disappointment but it has about four great tracks. "Alexander" and "Bagaos" are particularly great. "Bagaos" has Pierre Moerlen from Gong playing a brilliant marimba part. It's like an awesome bad guy song from a musical.

Booklet says Elton Dean from Soft Machine toured with them around this time.

Studio version of "Wow" is a bonus track. I much prefer the live version.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 00:23 (one month ago) Permalink

robert, those SAINT JUST albums rule. might i suggest a little franco based on what you've been digging lately?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpXIGlA2fwI

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 20:27 (one month ago) Permalink

Thanks, but I'll need to get to a device that can play all youtube videos to hear that.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 12 October 2017 15:55 (one month ago) Permalink

it's a testament to my high opinion of you all that I'm listening to a band called "Bubblemath"

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 October 2017 17:06 (one month ago) Permalink

has anyone heard the new ENSLAVED album?

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 12 October 2017 18:45 (one month ago) Permalink

Are they doing an Opeth and getting less metal?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 12 October 2017 18:49 (one month ago) Permalink

bubblemath was okay until i got to "she's a vegetarian" and the zappa thread got me so anti-zappa again i had to tap out

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 October 2017 18:58 (one month ago) Permalink

Oh that's their first album. I remember there being some deliberately gross lyrics in that track. The newer one isn't like that.

Noel Emits, Thursday, 12 October 2017 19:04 (one month ago) Permalink

robert, their prog freak flag is flying high, but they're still way more metal than opeth is at this point

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 12 October 2017 23:25 (one month ago) Permalink

The metal parts of Enslaved are like a vestigial tail they refuse to just chop off - every time one of their songs seems to be going well, in comes Grutle doing death metal vocals and wrecks it. I wish they'd go full-on prog.

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 12 October 2017 23:50 (one month ago) Permalink

the saxophone is pretty shocking to hear

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 13 October 2017 13:25 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah I kind of thought leading up to this one that they were going full prog, but it still is quite metal. Pretty good, but I never end up listening to them that often.

Dreadnought - A Wake In Sacred Waves - Denver band with roots in jazz and classical, past albums deal with avant prog as much as doom and sludge. The new one is probably their best and darkest, along the lines of SubRosa.
https://dreadnoughtdenver.bandcamp.com/album/a-wake-in-sacred-waves

The Quartet Of Woah! - Second album from Portuguese band, graduated from stoner rock to psych prog.
https://thequartetofwoah.bandcamp.com/album/the-quartet-of-woah

Ne Obliviscaris - Urn - Australian prog metal, am going over their older albums again, very interested in hearing this one in full when it's out 10/27.
https://neobliviscarissom.bandcamp.com/album/urn

Himmellegeme - Myth Of Earth - On Karisma label with Wobbler and Tusmørke. Smooth, Norwegian Floydian psych prog.
https://himmellegeme.bandcamp.com/releases

Centipede - Septober Energy (1971) - Just read about this in the new issue of Prog (am now subscribed on Kindle, and it has nice features on Motorpsycho, Opeth, Enslaved and Ne Obliviscaris). 50 person supergroup that includes members of King Crimson, Nucleus, Soft Machine and Patto.
https://youtu.be/PgrDxr4EbaI

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 13 October 2017 13:34 (one month ago) Permalink

lol at the hype text on that first link. a mythical connection exists between dave gilmour's personal houseboat and music!

bob lefse (rushomancy), Friday, 13 October 2017 15:22 (one month ago) Permalink

They're a good band though

ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 13 October 2017 17:53 (one month ago) Permalink

as much as i try to move on, on the grounds that there's so much good music out there that isn't prog, i keep coming back to it. most if this is probably ashratom. my tastes don't entirely overlap with his, but he keeps digging up these obscure prog records and writing about them in an interesting enough way that i listen to them. some of them i like. today i'm listening to pentwater's "out of the abyss", which gets compared to yezda urfa - that gentle giant style us prog that went nowhere in america. it is, but what hooks me on music isn't the composition or the performance but the attitude. typically i decide within five seconds whether i like a record or not. this one's just ok, i think. still, it's better than epidermis.

bob lefse (rushomancy), Sunday, 22 October 2017 18:39 (one month ago) Permalink

that PENTWATER album is pretty good. the american prog ashratom reps is a revelation; it's like he's reporting from an alternate 1970s. the silver lining in prog getting negged so long is there is vintage shit waiting to be heard for the first time stoned to the gills

and the well hasn't run dry, either. the new WOBBLER album rules

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 22 October 2017 19:39 (one month ago) Permalink

I've brought up Alexander Gradsky on the prog threads before. He does all sorts, singer-songwriter, composer, opera singer and quite a bunch of his work fits quite nicely in prog.
Been meaning to buy some albums someday but last time I checked there's very little written about him in English despite him being a fairly big deal in Russia.

I love the song that starts around 6:15 and really wish I could get a soundtrack of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8aItG4HYjM
A lot of the still images are by the great Anatoly Fomenko.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 23 October 2017 15:13 (one month ago) Permalink

i am enjoying this:

<q>The Quartet Of Woah! - Second album from Portuguese band, graduated from stoner rock to psych prog.
https://thequartetofwoah.bandcamp.com/album/the-quartet-of-woah<;/q>

but they have *got* to change that spelling to Whoa...i'm not sure i can recommend them to ppl as long as it's Woah

alpine static, Monday, 23 October 2017 17:06 (one month ago) Permalink

crap, sorry for the bad formatting. was trying to quote Fastnbulbous

alpine static, Monday, 23 October 2017 17:06 (one month ago) Permalink


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