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anyone know of some good funky prog rock break records?

Vitalski, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I've broken plenty of prog rock records.

Sasha (sgh), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

more along the lines of drum heavy stuff as opposed to the pastoral mellotron soaked epic gnome and wizard shit

Vitalski, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:52 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

there is no "gnome and wizard" shit in the genre to the best of my knowledge.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

But Pash, most people think prog = Rick Wakeman.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

for "gnome and wizard" shit, seek any record w/vocals by ronnie james dio.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yes ned, but I can't remember any of rick wakeman's rekkids featuing "gnome and wizard" shit. I mean they were pretty terrible, but pretty devoid of any s&s cack.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

not interested in gnome and wizard shit.. more funky hard drum stuff

Vitalski, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ALAN PARSONS HAS ROBOTS ROBOTS ARE COOL WITH THE DRUMMING

Sasha (sgh), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Dig :-)

Roger in Mokum (Roger T), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Check Magma's Attahk for lots of funky hard drum stuff.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Damnit, does anyone know what the name of the dude who does hip-hop instrumental albums with fantasy themes is? I think it's a LotR name. My joke has been foiled by my crappy memory.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Anyway, just buy Endtroducing and The Inner-Mounting Flame and you'll be fine.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

billy cobham - "spectrum"

not really prog, more jazz-fusion

steeve mcqueen (steeve mcqueen), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Cobham plays some samplable beats on the Mahavishnu albums too.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Speed up "Peel the Paint" from Gentle Giant's Three Friends albums -- works for me...

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Cobham plays some samplable beats on the Mahavishnu albums too.

He certainly plays a lot of beats on those albums, ha ha.

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, FUCKING sampleable. Why has there never been a Mahavishnu remix album? (answer: because it would probably be done by Bill Laswell)

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Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

well there are some ok ones to use for breaks too (I'm thinking now of his breaks in "Miles Ahead")

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dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:39 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

There is a tune on Lost Trident Sessions where he is playing straight-up jungle in like '74, for real. He already tuned his drums way up and was playing James Brown beats at over twice the speed, so there you go.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

See also the Italian band Area. They were known to spontaneously break into funk jams, like on the end of "La mela di Odessa".

I've always wished someone would sample Bill Bruford's china-boy extravaganza on "One More Red Nightmare".

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Atomic Rooster? Iron Butterfly?

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

dude who does hip-hop instrumental albums with fantasy themes = DJ Frane maybe?

superultramega (superultramarinated), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 15:29 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Nah, it was a one word name, starts with an E maybe? I just saw a few of them in the record store once and laughed.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 15:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

see also: gong (hands down the most 'fun' of all prog bands)

and the devi influenced tracks by brian auger's oblivian express.

mike bott, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 16:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Don't front on Wakeman. He OWNED when Yes played MSG last Thursday night. Their fans, however (myself not included), are the topic for another thread...

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 16:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the lotr breaks fella is:

http://www.suckadelic.com/main.html

I have the lotr one, which is only a little bit funny, unfortunately...

Conor (Conor), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

No, it wasn't that! Argh, this is going to kill me.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Btw, I have Mahavishnu Remixed playing in my head now, it's great.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, if you can find it, Igor Wakhevitch's "Materia Prima" starts out with the slowest, dirtiest beat ever - played by some French guy! Would have made early Funkadelic proud.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Jay Vee - tell us more! How was the show?

Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Weeeell: They played almost 3 hours. Steve Howe was on fire, Anderson sounded great and Wakeman was -- as I said -- OWNING. Squire was good for the first half of the set then played amazingly during the second and White, as always, did his job. The most amazing thing was at the very end of "And You And I" , during Howe's guitar line that leads into Anderson's closing verse, the entire place got up and gave Howe (+ the band) a 5 minute standing ovation. Howe seemed pissed he wasn't allowed to finish the song, though, which I thought was strange. The rest of the band seemed totally awed and teary eyed. It was incredible.
Then they did an "unplugged" set that included an acoustic version of "Owner Of A Lonely Heart'. They ended the evening with two encores: "Soon" and then -- past the MSG curfew of 11:00 and into hefty NY Union Workers' Overtime territory (I heard something like $25,000 an hour?!?) - they did "Starship Trooper".
Some of the songs I remember losing it over they sounded so luvverly:

South Side Of the Sky
Going For The One
Ritual (!!)
OOALH
Long Distance Runaround
Soon

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Did they play Heart of the Sunrise!?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I don't think they did. No, I would've remembered since it's one of my faves.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Wow, that sounds awesome. I guess they've been opening with "Going For the One", eh? I really should have went to the show here. One the only favorite bands of my youth that I still haven't seen.

Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, they opened with GFTO. Oh - and the Wakeman/Howe tradeoffs at the end of SSOTS were fire. I recommend catching these guys on this tour if you enjoy them. They're mainly staying away from the bulk of merde they put out in the early-mid '90s and sticking to lots of seldom-played classics. Including 1st and 2nd album stuff. Still no Drama material, though.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Starship Trooper encore! Favorite song ever.

57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Oh -- and Wakeman/Anderson did a lovely version of "The Meeting" from the otherwise terrible Anderson/Bruford/Wzzzzzzz... album

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I kind of regret missing the show.

Vitalski: It's an obvious answer but do you have Yes' Fragile? The second side is a goldmine. Side 2 opens with the first drum and bass track evah! Also check out the intro to "Heart of the Sunrise" and "The Fish" and the basslines to "Long Distance Runaround" and "Roundabout". Neil Peart is another obvious choice.

I find Inner Mounting Flame more or less unlistenable once I got past how virtuosic it is.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Ha, I have never gotten past it. Or more to the point, that's not why I like it...it just leaves all other fusion and prog the dust, hundreds of miles behind, in terms of screaming intensity.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I think it's the only record with which I've experienced the cliche that prog/fusion is technically dazzling but feels totally cold or dry on an emotional level. Where I actually do find the wailing guitar solos to sound cheesy and showy. I'm not totally sure why. It bugs me since I like McLaughlin with Miles.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

(Admittedly, I seem to generally prefer current fusion to 70 stuff, with exceptions.)

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

That's really interesting, since for me it's one of the only ones that manages to transcend all the tightly scripted runs and odd-times to sound like five guys playing their asses off, with fire to spare.

Return to Forever (w/diMeola), for ex., sounds more like emotionless showmanship to me. Fun in some ways, in no way deep like Mahavishnu.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Weeeell: They played almost 3 hours. Steve Howe was on fire, Anderson sounded great and Wakeman was -- as I said -- OWNING. Squire was good for the first half of the set then played amazingly during the second and White, as always, did his job. The most amazing thing was at the very end of "And You And I" , during Howe's guitar line that leads into Anderson's closing verse, the entire place got up and gave Howe (+ the band) a 5 minute standing ovation. Howe seemed pissed he wasn't allowed to finish the song, though, which I thought was strange. The rest of the band seemed totally awed and teary eyed. It was incredible.

I saw them in Lowell at the Paul Tsongas Arena last weekend (the last gig of this leg of their tour; I think the one right after MSG), which they were videotaping I believe for a PBS special and later a DVD release. They played The Beatles' "Every Little Thing" (an early cover of theirs, but very much revamped) as an encore instead of "Soon", plus "Starship Trooper" as the final closer. Great versions of "And You and I", "Ritual", "Turn of the Century"...

Minuses: They did a shuffle-blues acoustic version of "Roundabout" (like Clapton did for "Layla" on his Unplugged)--sounds too cheezy to me. Dean's inflatable set looked very (ahem) Stonehenge like.

That aside, I continue to be amazed at what a great show these guys still put on, since they're all like 55-60 years old. Plus, the a/c that night was non-existent, so it was like 85-90 degrees on stage the entire time for them.

Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Back to the original question, how about trying Herbie Hancock's Sextant or Can's Ege Bamyasi?

Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i want more music like magma too

chaki_burger (chaki), Friday, 21 May 2004 00:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I just listened to a few Gentle Giant songs that I thought might be good for this: "Knots" (Octopus) has some really crazy shit on it that might be good for sampling; "Nothing At All"'s (s/t) opening with a funky beat behind it would be nice; "Why Not?" (s/t) has a nice sample-able drum and bass bit (in the literal sense not drum 'n' bass) before the outro solo; "Alucard" (s/t) is pretty groovy and crazy; "Experience" (In A Glass House) has some nice bits; "Design" (Interview) is really cool an has a really cool drum break at about 4:27. I don't know what part of "Peel the Paint" has that one really cool bit before the guitar and sax part that leads into the chorus at about 2:04. You probably don't care about this anymore but whatever.

Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

remove the bit "I don't know what part of" before "Peel the Paint" for fuck's sake.

Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

and how could anyone forget Knots, the Gentle Giant remix album with Kid606, Blectum & Electric Company compiled by Phthalocyanine.

it actually exists. it's actually pretty good.

(Jon L), Monday, 24 May 2004 17:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Herbie Hancock's "Crossings", "Mwandishi" and "Sextant" will also satisfy some funky fusion music needs.

earlnash, Monday, 24 May 2004 17:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

listening to Genesis today

Fucking "Supper's Ready"...really blows my mind how human beings could sit in a room and come out with this piece of music

another thing I love about old Genesis is you can always hear little bits of the canny pop band they would become, the little minute-and-a-half McCartney-eque bits in Supper's Ready really stand out among their peers

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 June 2017 16:50 (six days ago) Permalink

lol, I listened to that this morning too, after mentioning it on the Relayer thread,and the Beatlisms stuck out to me too.

smug dinner-jazz atrocity (Dan Peterson), Monday, 19 June 2017 17:22 (six days ago) Permalink

tt made me listen to Foxtrot in its entirety yesterday, there is definitely something to her claim that it is one of the greats

imago, Monday, 19 June 2017 18:02 (six days ago) Permalink

I'd rather unfairly overlooked it beforehand

imago, Monday, 19 June 2017 18:02 (six days ago) Permalink

Watcher of the Skies always struck me as a Beatles-y melody.

dinnerboat, Monday, 19 June 2017 18:03 (six days ago) Permalink

"watcher of the skies" has "hello goodbye" vibes

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 19 June 2017 18:16 (six days ago) Permalink

I love "Watcher" and "Supper's Ready" but never quite got into the rest of it, "Horizons" excepted of course

frogbs, Monday, 19 June 2017 18:18 (six days ago) Permalink

Watcher of the Skies is let down by the lyrics -- not the content of them, but they just don't scan and aren't very singable. Otherwise, it's a brilliant song.

Three Word Username, Monday, 19 June 2017 18:40 (six days ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgLB_t2DcfU

i was checking an algiers vid earlier and this was the sequel, and i'm..."what is this proggy wibbling"? is this nu-prog?

popcorn michael awaits trumptweet (Hunt3r), Monday, 19 June 2017 18:54 (six days ago) Permalink

that is dope

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 21:53 (five days ago) Permalink

Foxtrot is the best Genesis LP.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 22:12 (five days ago) Permalink

supper's ready is a fucking mess. thank god they never did a "side-long" (*not actually a side-long) number again.

Frank Ocean is the Ultimate Solution (rushomancy), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 01:14 (four days ago) Permalink

sorry you are wrong, it must be lonely in your supper's ready hating bubble.

akm, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:20 (four days ago) Permalink

i can forgive them willow farm or i can forgive them the greengrocer's apostrophe, but not both

Frank Ocean is the Ultimate Solution (rushomancy), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 04:10 (four days ago) Permalink

"greengrocer's apostrophe" I have no idea what that means but ok?

akm, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 13:12 (four days ago) Permalink

Idg that either. "Supper's Ready" = "supper is ready", surely?

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 13:20 (four days ago) Permalink

"Horizon's"

early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 13:23 (four days ago) Permalink

oh, "lover's leap" presumably, which I believe is how it's written out on the jacket.

akm, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 13:27 (four days ago) Permalink

Supper's Ready really does sound like a compilation of castoffs or various sections that didn't fit into other songs (similar to the middle section on The Battle of Epping Forest). Still one of the best sidelongs of the 70s.

frogbs, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 13:33 (four days ago) Permalink

Gross apostrophe abuses unlikely among the crymes of these poshos.

Noel Emits, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:15 (four days ago) Permalink

The return of the opening motif after the tense 9/8 standoff and Gabriel straining his high register is massive and cathartic.

dinnerboat, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:26 (four days ago) Permalink

yes, i meant "horizon's". both "supper's ready" and "lover's leap" are perfectly grammatically correct.

my loathing of "supper's ready" really does come down to "willow farm", which was, i'm told, inserted in there just so people wouldn't think it was another "stagnation" (really? how deaf would you have to be to confuse it with "stagnation"? we're not exactly dealing with an "in the wake of poseidon" situation here, guys).

the older i get the more i come around to it - though damn near every "side-long epic" could stand to have at least six minutes cut from it (probably including even "a plague of lighthouse keepers", which i love and all but i can't remember anything between "presence of the night" and "where is the god that guides my hand?"), and though "willow farm" is very much the musical equivalent of the magical underpant gnomes' "????", it's not _quite_ as compositionally incoherent as all that. it sure as hell isn't close to being as well-constructed as "close to the edge", but very little prog is, and at least genesis could always write a good tune.

the other thing, and this is snobby, but genesis before "selling england by the pound" come off as cheap and underrehearsed, which to be fair they were. for a genre as chop-heavy as prog they sure did sound sloppy - phil collins, who i know for damn sure is an excellent drummer, manages to make 9/8 sound as leaden as pink floyd. it's really odd how much more apocalyptic the "evil jam" (usually dismissed as second-rate wankery) is than "apocalypse in 9/8".

Frank Ocean is the Ultimate Solution (rushomancy), Thursday, 22 June 2017 02:20 (three days ago) Permalink

Huh, was it spelled that way on the original vinyl? It's "Horizons" on my digital version and in anything Google turns up for me.

I really enjoy "Supper's Ready", even though I don't think it's in the same class as "Close to the Edge" in composition or performance.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 22 June 2017 02:26 (three days ago) Permalink

Tbh, if anything offends me on Foxtrot, it's probably the mess they made of Bach's G major cello prelude in "Horizons".

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 22 June 2017 02:27 (three days ago) Permalink

i like willow farm. nothing wrong with a touch of whimsey.

akm, Thursday, 22 June 2017 04:25 (three days ago) Permalink

the most offensive thing about foxtrot is that it's not very well produced.

akm, Thursday, 22 June 2017 04:26 (three days ago) Permalink

Prog rock should get an additional pass because it spawned nothing. It came and then it went. Subsequent generations weren’t saddled with nutty synthesizer solos and odes to each and every one of King Henry’s wives. Prog rock remains a curio, eminently easy to avoid, to disregard.

what I learned from this paragraph, towards the end, is that the author is unaware of metal

El Tomboto, Sunday, 25 June 2017 16:14 (six hours ago) Permalink

this is the only decent sentence in the whole thing: "Prog rock was stoner music, pure and simple."

posted the article because i'm still shocked to see any attention paid to prog

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 25 June 2017 16:44 (five hours ago) Permalink

It's definitely true that you never hear Pink Floyd or Rush anymore.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 25 June 2017 16:56 (five hours ago) Permalink

Yeah, you know with Pitchfork's recent best songs of the `70's list, there was zero representation of prog (maybe a single Pink Floyd tune?). If a person had no prior knowledge of `70's popular music and used that list as an accurate representation of the landscape back then, they would just assume that prog had next to significance.

Austin, Sunday, 25 June 2017 17:01 (five hours ago) Permalink

*next to no significance

Have another cup of coffee, Austin. Don't mind if I do.

Austin, Sunday, 25 June 2017 17:02 (five hours ago) Permalink

thank you, austin! personal confession: my favorite music magazine is 'mojo'. prog rock (besides floyd) may as well never have existed according to them

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 25 June 2017 17:03 (five hours ago) Permalink

If a person had no prior knowledge of `70's popular music and used that list as an accurate representation of the landscape back then,

Huh, people use Pitchfork this way?

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 25 June 2017 17:18 (five hours ago) Permalink

pitchfork kids, you know, they use it as a primary source on all music.

Rodney Stooksbury for President (rushomancy), Sunday, 25 June 2017 17:50 (four hours ago) Permalink

Yeah, you know with Pitchfork's recent best songs of the `70's list, there was zero representation of prog

gonna say that there's a real obvious reason for this as prof is a zero-sum albums game, much as i voted for "roundabout"

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 25 June 2017 17:53 (four hours ago) Permalink

er prof = prog

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 25 June 2017 17:53 (four hours ago) Permalink

I still don't understand how 'Roundabout' didn't make a best songs of the `70's list.

Austin, Sunday, 25 June 2017 18:07 (four hours ago) Permalink

The tone of these articles seems so weird to me (although, interestingly, I think their basic premise about rock history and canonization stands in contradiction to Amanda Marcotte's). I mean, Yes was just inducted into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. A lot of these bands still get airplay and fill large venues. There are plenty of people, especially musicians, who take the music seriously, even if they don't generally overlap with the set of people who write for Pitchfork or Mojo (or The New Yorker), which is fine; music journalists can write about whatever they want.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 25 June 2017 18:30 (four hours ago) Permalink

qualmsley I'm listening to the magic city and I like it but it's like...new wave? can you bear out the progginess of this record?

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 25 June 2017 18:33 (four hours ago) Permalink

You can hear it a little in "Revolution of Hearts pts I&II" and "Clementine".

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 25 June 2017 18:37 (four hours ago) Permalink

what sund4r said. plus in the interest of contradicting myself and calling out attention paid to prog, here's stereogum ~

As epic pop-prog moves go, The Magic City remains an unparalleled marvel, 50 gamma-ray soaked minutes of Medieval chords, rampaging keyboards, pedal steel, and Timony finding a greater confidence in her vocals. Veteran hand Mitch Easter engineered City at North Carolina studio Fidelitorium, but these tunes may as well have been cut to tape somewhere in California; there’s a lightness and buoyancy to them that’s light years removed from Pirate Prude, albeit the sound remains quintessentially Helium. From the cosmic country lilt of “Aging Astronauts” to fantastical caper “Devil’s Tear” to “Vibrations”‘ Ren Faire word salad-cum-scale-climbing confection to the syrup-flow transcendence of “Ocean Of Wine,” this was Helium at their most distinctive and their most accessible.

http://www.stereogum.com/1942561/from-helium-to-ex-hex-a-guide-to-the-music-of-mary-timony/franchises/sounding-board/

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 25 June 2017 18:51 (three hours ago) Permalink

my favorite music magazine is 'mojo'. prog rock (besides floyd) may as well never have existed according to them

― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 25 June 2017 18:03

Wasn't it them who did a big Jethro Tull feature? Uncut and Mojo mix in my memory.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 25 June 2017 20:19 (two hours ago) Permalink

Didn't they do a Jethro Tull feature and get Nick Cave to contribute?

Stevolende, Sunday, 25 June 2017 20:31 (two hours ago) Permalink

their coverage of jethro tull over the years has been overwhelming

http://www.mojo4music.com/search/jethro+tull

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 25 June 2017 21:07 (one hour ago) Permalink

uncut seems to me at least to be operating in the 'let's use YES as a slam' vein. for instance, the review of the new fleet foxes album prioritizes this r. pecknold quote bit at the beginning ~

“I feel,” he wrote, “like 2009, Bitte Orca/Merriweather/Veckatimest, was the last time there was a fertile strain of ‘indie rock’ that also felt progressive w/o devolving into Yes-ish largesse.”

http://www.uncut.co.uk/blog/fleet-foxes-crack-reviewed-100543

kudos to uncut though for putting out that GENESIS special edition a few months back. i was shocked when i saw it

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 25 June 2017 21:15 (one hour ago) Permalink

Didn't they do a Jethro Tull feature and get Nick Cave to contribute?

― Stevolende, Sunday, 25 June 2017 21:31

Yeah, which resulted in Ian Anderson presenting Cave an award at a Mojo ceremony. Cave was praising Tull's lyrics and it was suggested that he named his second son after the band, though he never said that himself.
He had a funny story about Fripp being one of the weirder people he'd collaborated with in another issue of Mojo or Uncut.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 25 June 2017 21:24 (one hour ago) Permalink

Pretty sure Mojo did a thing on Genesis too.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Sunday, 25 June 2017 21:33 (one hour ago) Permalink

“I feel,” he wrote, “like 2009, Bitte Orca/Merriweather/Veckatimest, was the last time there was a fertile strain of ‘indie rock’ that also felt progressive w/o devolving into Yes-ish largesse.”

what does that even mean? that yes used to give away too much free shit?

Rodney Stooksbury for President (rushomancy), Sunday, 25 June 2017 22:02 (thirty-five minutes ago) Permalink


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