ECM: C/D, S&D

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Manfred Eicher's retirement home for clapped-out fusioneers, where ScandBland new-age is the only game in town and every bloody record somehow manages to sounds the same (whether its bandoneon, sax or 12-string acoustic) and every cover is an Athena knock-off.

Or a label with an admirably consistent aesthetic, constantly evolving and innovating, serenity served up in audiophilic nuggets, wrapped in beautiful sleeves.

Peaks? Troughs? Feel free to included ECM New Series and (if you're Mark S) tell us how ECM fell so far from favour with The Wire...

Judging by the listening list at the back of 'Nothing', Paul Morley's a bit of a fan.

Michael Jones, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm surprised they haven't signed Sigur Ros.

dave q, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

HUGE dud: Jan Garbarek (or "Janny G" as he's often nicknamed on the ECM list). Smooooth!

Classics: Jarrett's maniacal virtuoso piano-bashing, Charlie Haden (esp. the "Ornette's band without Ornette" Old and New Dreams), Puntin/Gunnarsdottir, Abercrombie (esp. Gateway), Rypdal, Surman. I can't say I have any ambition to investigate the whole catalogue (one Stephan Micus album is enough, thanks), but there's more to ECM than proto-new-age.

Andrew Norman, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

are you the same Andrew Norman that used to do reviews of Wurlitzer Jukebox 7"s?

gareth, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Taking sides - Keith Jarrett v. Keith Emerson

dave q, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Morley's always been a Jarrett fan. Search: my JanG wire review which kicked off w. a discussion of Noggin the Nog!!

Speaking as one who has now contributed for (tho not to) VERY NEARLY 200 ISSUES K- BLIMEY, I think Wire attitude to ECM has ALWAYS been very ambivalent. R.Cook was probably super-diplomatic — sometimes his genius, sometimes his crime — but the sense was that their success as a label actually somewhat occluded bettah-favoured Euro- indies like eg Black Saint or hat HUT...

mark s, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Just once I'd like to limit Eicher to using ONE ambient mic in the studio and see what would happen.

dave q, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't have that much on ECM. But the Keith Jarrett and Dave Holland albums I have are nice.

Josh, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

They put out Arvo Part recordings, that's good enough for me.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Classics: The Keith Jarrett, Dave Holland, and Art Ensemble of Chicago ('Nice Guys' especially, seems like a rather weird fit for ECM) records that they have put out. I wouldn't mind checking out some of their Jack deJohnette or old John Abercrombie stuff either.

Duds: Most of the mannered and Third Stream records that constitute the so-called "ECM sound" (not like I've listened extensively to them, though).

Jordan, Saturday, 25 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Conclusive case for the prosecution.

Compare and contrast "Song for Someone" by the Kenny Wheeler big band on Incus with "Music for Large and Small Ensembles" by more or less the same line-up on ECM. The latter sounds like all the life has been bled out of it.

Most atypical, and therefore best, ECM release: "Afternoon of a Georgia Fawn" by Marion Brown; the missing link between "Bitches Brew" and Braxton.

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Classic: As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls

Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 12 January 2003 23:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Jack DeJohnette Special Edition with Blythe and Murray. Just listened to it a couple of days ago. Fantastic album.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 12 January 2003 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link

anyone heard julian priester's 'love, love'? saw it kicking about in a rec shop, know it has a reputation, imagine it is hideous

zemko (bob), Sunday, 12 January 2003 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link

(i like sextant obv)

zemko (bob), Sunday, 12 January 2003 23:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I just saw a Meredith Monk record ("Dolemn music"?) on ECM used for three bucks. Should I run back and get it?

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 13 January 2003 03:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes you should.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 13 January 2003 04:45 (eighteen years ago) link

C: Marion Brown 'Afternoon of a Georgia Faun', Philipp Wachsmann/Paul Lytton 'Some Other Season', both Evan Parker Electro-Acoustic Ensemble dics, and Robin Williamson's 'The Seed-at-Zero'.

the first two are as beautiful as abstract music ever gets. the Parker discs are remarkable examples of e-a improv, provided that you can get past Eicher's inappropriately spacious production. and Williamson's tribute to Dylan Thomas is rather atypical, both for the musician and for ECM, with nary a hint of ISB's psychotropic excess (or Eicher's cathedral-ceiling echo) to be heard in its solemn, skeletal settings of Thomas' poems.

summerslastsound (summerslastsound), Monday, 13 January 2003 14:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Both Love, Love and Dolmen Music are urgent and key. Also the Paris Concert by Circle (Braxton, Corea, Holland, Altschul). And of course ECM distribute WattWorks in Europe, i.e. all the Carla Bley/Michael Mantler stuff.

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 13 January 2003 14:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd like to pick up a copy of Doleman Music myself. That sounds like a good buy. (I forgot that was on ECM.) There's also some Steve Reich on ECM, but some of it might be superseded by more current recordings. (I still haven't heard the new recording of Tehilim.

Rockist Scientist, Monday, 13 January 2003 16:09 (eighteen years ago) link

the legendary "first 30" releases (cat. nos. 1001-1030) which some jazzheads pontificated about on rec.music.jazz years ago. the aforementioned "georgia faun" by marion brown is part of this group, and there are some surprisingly dense, iconoclast euro-free titles by artists who later used ECM as a nice soft pillow to lay down upon.

the hal russell NRG ensemble "the hal russell story".

there are a few others but it's too early and I haven't cared enough about jazz lately to remember.

mosurock (mosurock), Monday, 13 January 2003 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link

have always been into keith jarrett "standards vol 1" (awsome cover of "god bless the child") and "koln concert".

other good stuff includes gateway, feat. john abercrombie (sp?) who is somewhat similar to bill frisell's at points. also the early, pre-lame, pre-midi pat metheney.

marcg (marcg), Monday, 13 January 2003 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I've enjoyed: Circle, Paris-Concert; Metheny, Bright Size Life and Watercolors; Dave Holland, Conference of the Birds and Extensions; Chick Corea and Gary Burton, Crystal Silence; Eberhard Weber, Silent Feet, Little Movements, Yellow Fields, and The Colours of Chloe; Art Ensemble of Chicago, Urban Bushmen; Carla Bley, Night-Glo; the Gateway album; Marc Johnson, Bass Desires; and lots of other stuff. I've been disappointed by: Dave Holland, Life Cycle; Carla Bley, Heavy Heart; Eberhard Weber, Fluid Rustle; most of Jan Garbarek's stuff, especially that wildly misconceived album with the Hilliard Ensemble.

Phil (phil), Monday, 13 January 2003 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link

One of these days I'll figure out why my line breaks keep disappearing.

Phil (phil), Monday, 13 January 2003 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I stopped buying Garbarek albums about ten years ago. But the late released live Personal Mountain with Keith Jarrett is a keeper. Nude Ants from the same time is another must. His tenor sax sound is something special. Very clear and fjordian. But thee ECM release to own is Keith Jarrett's Sun Bear Concerts. The summit of Jarrett's solo improvisations. Lots of ecstatic moaning, lots of free jazz, lots of climaxes, lots of incredible beauty. Ten records.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Monday, 13 January 2003 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Sorry, Personal Mountains was the name of the Jarrett/Garbarek album.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Monday, 13 January 2003 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...
Revive, if you please.

ECM: Found huddled outside a Starbucks beneath the much-maligned umbrella of "NPR Music," or a still-relevant home to transcendent, spacious music with a minimum of fuss? Are they only as good as their classic back-catalogue? Does the New Series wave of innocuous and "tasteful" artistry leave a bad taste in your mouth (or no taste whatsoever)?

IMHO, their Steve Reich issues are some of the finest Reich extant, including the definitive renditions of Music for 18 Musicians, Violin Phase, Octet, etc. I love Anouar Brahem, enjoy Tomasz Stanko, and admire their volume of Silvestrov/Shevchenko's Silent Songs.

That said, I'm not sold on 100% (or even 75%) of what I hear on ECM, but it's one of the few labels that I routinely give the benefit of the doubt if I'm on the fence about wasting $20 from time to time. I'm entirely in favor of their leanings towards artsy European starkness, but I wish Manfred Eicher would learn to get by on less reverb.

Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 06:56 (fourteen years ago) link

wow, i've never seen an ecm record for more than 8$

team jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 07:18 (fourteen years ago) link

I've been really liking the four Gary Burton ECM albums that I have picked up in the past few months: "Passengers", "Dreams So Real", "The New Quartet" and "Ring".

I have also been suprised how much parts of Eberhardt Weber albums from the 70s sound like Tortoise.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 09:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Speaking as one who has now contributed for (tho not to) VERY NEARLY 200 ISSUES K- BLIMEY, I think Wire attitude to ECM has ALWAYS been very ambivalent. R.Cook was probably super-diplomatic — sometimes his genius, sometimes his crime — but the sense was that their success as a label actually somewhat occluded bettah-favoured Euro- indies like eg Black Saint or hat HUT...

I think that ECM's huge advertising budget may have been a contributory factor to that particular "ambivalence."

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 10:37 (fourteen years ago) link

five years pass...

The NY Times and a Seattle paper love the new ECM label album Arco Iris from Moroccan vocalist Amina Alaoui who performs old Andalusian compositions here. I haven't heard it but I am intrigued. Ilxer Sanpaku liked the Jon Balke & Amina Alaoui album Siwan that came out on ECM a year or 2 back.

I also just mentioned it here:
Arabic music (not elsewhere classified)

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 14:51 (nine years ago) link

the other ECM thread

ECM s/d.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 14:53 (nine years ago) link

Posted this on the Arabic music thread but its an ECM label album

Some of the Amina Alaoui album is a little too samey--melancholy nearly fado-like vocals and minimalist flamenco guitar strumming, but on other cuts her voice is exquisite and the instrumental work just lively enough.

― curmudgeon, Thursday, July 14, 2011 1:12 PM

curmudgeon, Friday, 15 July 2011 16:27 (nine years ago) link

six years pass...

Is there a comprehensive digital repository for 70s ECM gubbins? Preferably not streaming.

The label has a page on Bandcamp but it's barely a handful of relatively recent releases so far, AFAICT.

Noel Emits, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 15:10 (three years ago) link

Boringly I think iTunes/Amazon are the most reliable. Qobuz have some lossless stuff but it gets pretty pricey: http://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/search?q=ecm&i=boutique&f%5Blabel%5D=ECM+Records#results

ECM stuff rarely turns up on streaming services anyway, the old album shows up for a short while on Apple Music and then disappears again.

I'd definitely pay for some sort of digital ECM subscription, either via Bandcamp or Drip or something - all new releases + curated back catalogue selections.

bamboohouses, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:02 (three years ago) link

there's tons that never made it to digital in the first place, right?

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:28 (three years ago) link

Pandora, oddly enough, has a decent ECM catalog.

Eazy, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 18:59 (three years ago) link

So ECM appears to have popped up on Spotify. So that's nice. Can't find Julian Priester, but Benny Maupin is there, and AEOC.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 10 November 2017 16:47 (three years ago) link

Only one AEOC album so far - Tribute To Lester. None of their 80s stuff yet.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 10 November 2017 17:03 (three years ago) link

Urban Bushmen is there, too.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 10 November 2017 17:30 (three years ago) link

And Full Force!

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 10 November 2017 17:32 (three years ago) link

Not in the US, at least not yet.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 10 November 2017 17:33 (three years ago) link

Well whaddya know, loads of ECM stuff on Apple Music in the UK now too. Hooray!

bamboohouses, Friday, 10 November 2017 17:48 (three years ago) link

I said preferably NOT streaming damnit, Manfred.

Noel Emits, Friday, 10 November 2017 18:04 (three years ago) link

I wish someone would do an exploratory ECM back catalog blog like the Kranky one a from few years back.

MaresNest, Sunday, 12 November 2017 15:12 (three years ago) link

US Spotify now has Nice Guys, Urban Bushmen, and The Third Decade up, as well as Lester Bowie's All The Magic!/The One and Only and Works, and Roscoe Mitchell's Nine to Get Ready, Composition/Improvisation Nos. 1, 2 & 3, Far Side and Bells For the South Side.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 12 November 2017 15:20 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

God dammit, Eberhard Weber's early records are so beautiful, I've had a couple kicking around for years but never afforded them the proper attention, what a fool.

The Colours Of Chloë might just be the most ECM-y record of all.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 23:37 (three years ago) link

good call, I was just thinking of something to stream right now.

calzino, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 23:45 (three years ago) link

I wonder if Joni was paying attention, some of Don Juan's Reckless Daughter is very reminiscent of Weber's music.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 23:49 (three years ago) link

I started this rather unsuccessful topic some while back.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Wednesday, 29 November 2017 00:18 (three years ago) link

there are a lot of them, and I only own a tiny fraction

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 23 May 2020 15:06 (nine months ago) link

to help make up for this I just snapped up a Ralph Towner vinyl 4 pack of Solstice, Matchbook, Diary, and Sargasso Sea for $30 off ebay.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 23 May 2020 15:46 (nine months ago) link

Sargasso Sea is a really good one! I like Batik a lot, too. Never heard Diary or Matchbook.

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 23 May 2020 16:06 (nine months ago) link

I think I'm lapsing into full on WeberMania. In the last couple of days I've checked out 'Later That Evening', 'Little Movements', 'Passengers' & 'Fluid Rustle', all new to me, all of which have been good to great IMO. His sense of space and his overall tone really appeal to me.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 28 May 2020 03:51 (nine months ago) link

His tone is a mystery to me. Sounds so much like a fretless bass a lot of the time. Much louder and sharper than most upright basses. I suppose a lot of that comes from amplification, but it is very unusual.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 28 May 2020 04:23 (nine months ago) link

welcome to the club, sparkle. his music is wondrous and highly rewarding.

re: his tone — i've long suspected he used some subtle modulation effect of some sort. definitely not a flanger or phaser, but the jc-120 (the first instance of chorus that i know of) didn't get released until 1975. would be very curious to know, as well.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 29 May 2020 04:15 (nine months ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.ecmrecords.com/shop/1580224264

Accordionist Jean-Louis Matinier (who was in some ace Brahem bands) with classical guitarist Seddeki on a virtuosic but still retaining some sense of looseness and soulfulness sort of nice album!

calzino, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 14:10 (eight months ago) link

three weeks pass...

If I posted about every ECM discovery during Covid times, I’d need my own thread. And yet, a big thanks to those who mentioned Steve Tibbetts above. I managed to pick up a cheap copy of “Exploded View” and, wow, I wasn’t expecting that. Noisy, feedback-drenched guitar, tribal drums and tape experimentation. Another intriguing dimension of the label to explore.

cooldix, Friday, 17 July 2020 17:24 (seven months ago) link

cycled over to a 2nd hand record store yesterday... first vinyl purchase in months was a cheap copy of Ecotopia by Oregon.
it's a weird one... the two longest tracks are synth drenched and sort of messy... and i'm guessing the reasons why this LP has some bad reviews, everything that surrounds them is much much better. regardless of those 2 synth fests, as per usual everything is so beautifully recorded it doesn't really matter too much? for me, that element + amazing typography and design is the ECM trick for selling me even their shittier lps...

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Friday, 17 July 2020 17:51 (seven months ago) link

After devouring a steady diet of Weber over the last few months, I've come upon several Pat Metheny LPs lately and have been nuts about them. I tried listening to this stuff 20+ years ago and it all sounded too squishy for me, but now that I'm more squishy it sounds perfect. I can't believe I slept on 'As Falls Wichita' for as long as I did. I think I listened to the title cut half a dozen times in a row. I picked up the first Group LP, along with Offramp and Watercolors as well, all of which I'm crazy about. The synth stuff is perfection imo. Funny that I'm just digging this at this late date but I am who I am.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 17 July 2020 18:04 (seven months ago) link

The ECM album I've been playing the most lately is Ralph Towner - Solstice. Especially love the track "Nimbus". Also a good album to check out for all you Weber heads.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 17 July 2020 18:21 (seven months ago) link

I realized I had that one in my Discogs store inventory and after a few spins, delisted it. It's really good.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 17 July 2020 18:43 (seven months ago) link

I managed to pick up a cheap copy of “Exploded View

nice. i highly recommend safe journey or northern song next. or yr.

or, you know, the entire catalogue. whatever.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 17 July 2020 19:18 (seven months ago) link

The ECM album I've been playing the most lately is Ralph Towner - Solstice

Towner is among the most underrated ECM mainstays imo. I love Batik too, especially 'Waterwheel'.

pomenitul, Friday, 17 July 2020 19:22 (seven months ago) link

The 4 Towner albums I picked up on Ebay are all front to back great

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 17 July 2020 19:52 (seven months ago) link

I got the '78 Metheny Group for next to nothing and it has been one of my 'jigsaw puzzle' soundtracks of lockdown. I don't doubt for a second, despite how fucked up things have been, that I'll look back at this - and the album - as a golden period.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 17 July 2020 20:35 (seven months ago) link

'78 Metheny Group

listening now and damn. also my friends would murder me if I played this for them.

lukas, Friday, 17 July 2020 21:09 (seven months ago) link

is this the "Phase Dance" one? It was really famous, but I've never been able to really get into this one.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 17 July 2020 22:49 (seven months ago) link

That's the one. Seemed really appealing on a first playthrough.

lukas, Friday, 17 July 2020 23:00 (seven months ago) link

Listening to Batik again and DeJohnette's solo on the title track is pure *chef's kiss*.

pomenitul, Friday, 17 July 2020 23:23 (seven months ago) link

As is Eddie Gómez's bowed double bass playing.

pomenitul, Friday, 17 July 2020 23:24 (seven months ago) link

xp It is the Phase Dance one! The whole album is gorgeous.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 18 July 2020 13:16 (seven months ago) link

This is specific and probably obsessive, but ever since the quarantining started, the first album I listen to every day has been Tibbetts' <i>Northern Songs</i> - sometimes just side two, sometimes the whole thing. I found this interview about the making of the album, where Tibbetts talks about having other loops and sounds that he wanted to add to the album and I'm personally glad it didn't work out for them:

<a href="https://www.allaboutjazz.com/steve-tibbetts-northern-song-and-the-sounds-of-silence-steve-tibbetts-by-rob-caldwell.php";>https://www.allaboutjazz.com/steve-tibbetts-northern-song-and-the-sounds-of-silence-steve-tibbetts-by-rob-caldwell.php<;/a>

I've been making a lot of other ECM discoveries but one thing that strikes me is how tight the albums from 60-69 are - I had heard about the legendary first 30 ECM albums or the first 50, but that run from <i>Solstice</i> to <i>Gnu High</i> is almost desert island stuff for me, I've always loved <i>Yellow Fields</i>, I had never even heard <i>Odyssey</i> - if anyone ever asked me where to start with ECM (a question that never comes up), that's where I'd point them.

savetherobot, Saturday, 18 July 2020 14:31 (seven months ago) link

(Sorry about the formatting fail, I'm rusty)

savetherobot, Saturday, 18 July 2020 14:32 (seven months ago) link

Odyssey is incredible

Brad C., Saturday, 18 July 2020 14:44 (seven months ago) link

i've just put Northern Songs on and my cat has gone full force 100% CHILLED OUT TO THE MAX next to the stereo. magic calming tendencies pumping out of this lp.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Saturday, 18 July 2020 15:11 (seven months ago) link

i think, when it comes down to it, northern song is probably my favorite tibbetts. but screw picking just one.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Sunday, 19 July 2020 04:28 (seven months ago) link

I love that Tibbetts record so much. I'm going to need a second lockdown to crawl through the ECM catalogue! Everyone's guidance and remarks here are really helpful. This will be a special listening projects the coming months.

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 19 July 2020 10:43 (seven months ago) link

so, back to ralph towner for a sec—

i just checked out his joint venture with gary burton (matchbook) for the first time on the old internet jukebox today and realized i'm an idiot. i could've bought that record for a dollar probably a hundred times when i lived in reno. but oh well, if i had done that i would have spent a hundred dollars and inexplicably have a hundred copies of the album. i mean, it's a great record, but. . .

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 20 July 2020 03:29 (seven months ago) link

ECMs I've never heard that I've played in the last couple of days:
Pat Metheny, New Chautauqua & Bright Size Life - liked the really low key stuff the best, otherwise kind of reminded me of the guitar equivalent of a solo Jarrett record. I had heard Bright Size in passing a while ago and thought it was pretty nice sounding. After having gone deep on Pat recently, I wasn't as moved by it as I had expected to be, but it had some uncharacteristic, understated playing by Jaco which I got into.
Rypdal/Vitous/DeJohnette - loved this one
Dave Liebman, Lookout Farm & Drum Ode - I liked about half of each of these. Vocals undid Drum Ode, got a little lost on Lookout Farm, but will revisit both.
Julian Priester, Polarization - I know and adore Love, Love, but had never heard of this one at all. Some funk, some stately tone pieces. Pretty cool as well.
Oregon, Crossing & Ecotopia - the synths on Ecotopia were mentioned as a hazard upthread, but I was ready for them and got into this one. Crossing was better though. I think I need to get into more Oregon.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 23 July 2020 05:54 (seven months ago) link

i tried to get into oregon last year. picked up their first two albums (from the vanguard years, so very early 1970s) and just didn't really dig what i heard. wasn't put off by it, just didn't really stick out much.

i used to be one of those metheny haters, but i've since eased off on that after hearing some of his early work as a sideman. need to check out one of his proper albums.

also, after seeing it on the non-meme ecm instagram (linked earlier upthread), i checked out this bill connors album and whoa! it's really interesting and not very ecm-esque (not in the 'classic' sense anyway). almost seems like it would not be too out of place in the post-fahey thread. really searching, undefined music. p rad.

what i've heard of rypdal has been great. he does get a little riffy and showy in his playing sometimes, but it doesn't really feel out of place. side b of his descendre album is probably among the prettiest music that ecm ever did. definitely one for the "in a similarly silent way" crowd.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 30 July 2020 23:15 (seven months ago) link

Apple music has ECM's entire streaming output organized by decade, which is cool for deciding whether I want to check out some early classics I haven't had a chance to explore yet or go for the digital synth era. I've yet to make it past 1989 with any ECM release, save for listening to more recent Eberhard Weber over the last couple of days. I didn't realize his output dropped off because he'd had a stroke over a decade ago. Biographically, I know quite little about the ECM coterie. Would be a great topic for a documentary.

That Connors is on my list to check out for sure.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 31 July 2020 03:25 (seven months ago) link

Swimming with a Hole in My Body (such an oddly mysterious title) is my fave Connors release for ECM.

pomenitul, Friday, 31 July 2020 16:05 (seven months ago) link

Just picked up a lovely pristine copy of Scales by the Manfred Schoof Quintet (on Japo). I already had and appreciated the ECM 2CD collecting most of their material for the label but listening to it with the original sequencing is a much better experience. Some wonderful delicate keyboard work from Jasper Van’T Hof. I’m not aware of these records being much talked about - possibly because Schoof moved away from jazz? But really strong work IMO.

umsworth (emsworth), Saturday, 8 August 2020 22:53 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

https://shop.new-art.nl/assets/image.php?width=800&image=/content/img/new_products_queue/1443426047.jpg

I simply cannot articulate what a stunning piece of music this is.

calzino, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 19:52 (five months ago) link

A perfect disc, yes, and I'm not even that big a Satie/Cage/Feldman stan.

sock solipsist (pomenitul), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 19:54 (five months ago) link

It is perfect, such a beautiful compilation. There's about a hundred years between Satie and Cage's 'Four', but they sit together like they're meant to.

Monte Scampino (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 24 September 2020 08:56 (five months ago) link

three weeks pass...

In the past I've found some of the material François Couturier released under his own name to be a little light on content, but his second album with Anja Lechner, featuring mostly original compositions this time, is really hitting the autumnal spot right now. These two have more chemistry as a duo than as half of a quartet.

pomenitul, Monday, 19 October 2020 14:35 (four months ago) link

jean-louis matinier & kevin seddiki - rivages

^^^
this is another quite beautiful and captivating duo album imo

not sure if Terje Rypdal hits that autumnal spot for everybody but he released his first new album for years last month, sounded p good on my first listen

calzino, Monday, 19 October 2020 16:35 (four months ago) link

Yeah, the Rypdal album is fantastic. Reviewed it for The Wire.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 19 October 2020 17:23 (four months ago) link

Thought this was a cool little piece - Manfred Eicher picks five favourite Blue Note albs:

https://www.wbgo.org/post/field-studies-manfred-eicher-founder-ecm-records-picks-his-top-five-blue-note-albums#stream/0

Ward Fowler, Monday, 19 October 2020 17:35 (four months ago) link

That's really cool. Thanks for the heads up.

pomenitul, Monday, 19 October 2020 18:01 (four months ago) link

That's a great looking list. The Pete La Roca album is fantastic.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 19 October 2020 18:17 (four months ago) link

I'm sure I read about it here but can find no mention on the thread. Either way, the live Ghazal album, The Rain makes my hair stand on end.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/The_Rain_%28Ghazal_album%29.jpg

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 17:36 (four months ago) link

Fantastic cover- I'll look this up.

My two most recent discoveries from the 80s back catalogue are Paul Motian's 'It Should've Happened A Long Time Ago' & Marc Johnson's 'Bass Desires', both from 86-87, both featuring Bill Frisell doing a ton of guitar synth stuff, which I can't get enough of these days.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 22:30 (four months ago) link

Ooh, gotta check that out

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 23:19 (four months ago) link

three months pass...

the live Ghazal album, The Rain makes my hair stand on end

Just listened, fucking awesome, thanks. Have you ever heard Ravi Shankar's live thing from the Concert for Bangladesh? Similar vibe to Eternity.

lukas, Sunday, 14 February 2021 01:09 (two weeks ago) link

so the Ezra Feinberg album Recumbent Speech from last year is hitting a lot of ECM notes for me. ECM and tubular bells and tortoise and jim o'rourke. All that good stuff.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Monday, 22 February 2021 17:45 (one week ago) link

That Ezra Feinberg album is great.

Just listened, fucking awesome, thanks. Have you ever heard Ravi Shankar's live thing from the Concert for Bangladesh? Similar vibe to Eternity.

God, this album is so good. Not heard that particular Shankar - will check it out for sure.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 09:52 (one week ago) link

Wow, thanks for that Jamie (and Chinaski), the Feinberg album really is great!

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 09:59 (one week ago) link


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