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I only have one disc on ECM. Arvo Part's Alina. It is magical.
I have heard that some of ECMs output comes dangerously close to NewAgey Fuzak. So I will be interested to hear what everyone has to say.

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Friday, 8 November 2002 15:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

Chick Corea's album Return To Forever (not to be confused with his later band Return To Forever) on ECM is amazing but kinda a latin-y and sounds a bit fusion-y but Flora Purim's vocals are amazing. Probably nothing liek Arvo Part though.

Nils Peter Molvaer is also great.

― tigerclawskank, Friday, 8 November 2002 15:49 (10 years ago) Permalink

I actually like "Light as a Feather".
Has anyone purchased any of the "selected REcordings" series?

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Friday, 8 November 2002 15:53 (10 years ago) Permalink

Similar enough - but I prefer return. Generally got a good response from others who don't normally like stuff like Chick (I'm not a major fan myself).

Keith Jarrett's Koln Concert is great too - probably the third ECM big seller along with NPM and Arvo.

― tigerclawskank, Friday, 8 November 2002 16:17 (10 years ago) Permalink

Arvo Part - tabula rasa. probably the closest anyone has come to musical perfection.

― simon 803 (simon 803), Friday, 8 November 2002 17:01 (10 years ago) Permalink

Tomasz Stanko's 'Litania" with Krzysztof Komeda's music. I'm not recommending this as a Pole :) It's simple great, really.

― luke (luke), Friday, 8 November 2002 17:07 (10 years ago) Permalink

I have heard that some of ECMs output comes dangerously close to NewAgey Fuzak
a LOT of it does. But the aforementioned 'Tabula Rasa' and Steve Reich's recordings for ECM are essential listening

― zebedee, Friday, 8 November 2002 17:15 (10 years ago) Permalink

there is a lot of junk on ECM, but there are such winners

there's a modern norwegian label called RuneGrammophon that ECM distributes that puts out amazing free jazz, improv, noise, ambient, electronic and experimental. The best bands are Supersilent (death jazz. fusion + electronics + drums falling down the stairs) and Scorch Trio (heavy modal fusion).

nearly everything with don cherry on it is great: CoDoNa I, II, & III; his solo albums with ed blackwell, Old and New Dreams (pretty much Ornette Coleman's old group playing old Ornette tracks)

Charlie Haden's "The Ballad of the Fallen" is just like his 60s album on impulse called "Liberation Music Orchestra". it's arranged by Carla Bley and mixes orchestrated jazz, Spanish sounds and free jazz. very beautiful (and don cherry's on it)

i guess Art Ensemble of Chicago have put out stuff on ECM, none of which i've actually heard, but hear it's good.

and as mentioned on the current jazz thread, Raoul Bjorkenheim's group Krakatau is amazing

― JasonD, Friday, 8 November 2002 19:28 (10 years ago) Permalink

Some nice classical work as well. There's a really nice "Lamentaions of Jeremiah," although I forget who gives the performance.

TMFTML
http://intonation.blogspot.com

― TMFTML (TMFTML), Friday, 8 November 2002 19:36 (10 years ago) Permalink

Chris Barrus to thread!!!!

Remeber that exstensive posting from Bob Bannister?? Drone-On about ECM? Aaron check it out if you can find them.

― brg30 (brg30), Friday, 8 November 2002 22:14 (10 years ago) Permalink

Nana Vasconcelos' percussion experiments are beautiful. His solo output is [almost] always rewarding. His work with Egberto Gismonti has its iffy moments, but I like Danca das Cabecas, which I think is on ECM.

― Daniel (dancity), Saturday, 9 November 2002 07:55 (10 years ago) Permalink

keith jarrett's sun bear concerts. if you like inspiring background music that is. heaven & hell & HEAVEN. In my late teens I wrote all my pseudo philosophical love letters to this.

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Monday, 11 November 2002 01:10 (10 years ago) Permalink

Just Music LP.
Music Improvisation Company LP.

but don't pay a lot for ANY ECM titles. Even the "rarer" ones are easy to find.

― hstencil, Monday, 11 November 2002 08:25 (10 years ago) Permalink

john surman's "the road to st ives" - maybe it's because i have a lot invested emotionally with cornwall and st ives especially, but that album is just one of the most beautiful things i own. just astonishing - really does express the stark beauty of cornwall to me... the rest of surman's output is wonderful as well

also a really big fan of tomasz stanko's "litania - the music of krzysztof komeda" which will do me fine until i find any komeda orginals...

― chris browning (commonswings), Monday, 11 November 2002 09:24 (10 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

All of Pat Metheny's early albums are on ECM.

His first one "Bright Size Life" is a stripped down guitar trio record that includes Jaco Pastorius on bass. There is some really good interplay on this one.

I also really like the self titled Pat Metheny Group album, "Off Ramp", and the odd near ambient Metheny/Lyle Mays album "As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls" which also includes Nana Vasconcelos.
There are also a couple of really good acoustic guitar pieces on the "Watercolors" album.

― earlnash, Monday, 26 January 2004 04:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

Eberhard Weber's late '70s albums are classic. He's the bass player on some of Kate Bush's greatest stuff, too ("Mother Stands For Comfort", "Houdini").

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Monday, 26 January 2004 04:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

Destroy most free improv, which doesn't benefit from the signature ECM acoustics. I have an Evan Parker/Barre Philips ECM album that would have sounded much better on e.g. low-fi Incus.

What was said above about Don Cherry is spot-on. El Corazon!

― 4kflka, Monday, 26 January 2004 09:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

'Bright Size Life' seconded. Some great moody winter music. Reminds me somehow of Joni Mitchell's 'Hejira'

― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Monday, 26 January 2004 09:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

4kflka- have you got that Music improvisation album on ECM? and what did you think?

I'd say its pretty good.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 26 January 2004 10:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

The MIC ECM album is interesting because Christine Jeffrey does vocals on it (she isn't on the equivalent Incus album) so the music is slightly airier, but in a good way.

However, the Kenny Wheeler big band album on ECM (Music For Large and Small Ensembles) isn't even in the same league as the one he did for Incus (Song For Someone) - partly because of the Eicher ambience (works better for the small groups, but not for the big band) and partly because in the 1974 big band Wheeler had Derek Bailey and Tony Oxley in the line-up, whereas in the ECM big band he had John Abercrombie and Peter Erskine. Parker and Rutherford also sound a lot more muted. Song For Someone urgently needs a CD reissue - Parker's tenor exploding at the climax of "The Good Doctor" is a classic improv moment of p*nct*m.

― Phoebe Dinsmore, Monday, 26 January 2004 10:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

Don't forget David Holland's "Conference of the Birds" -- one of the best records of the seventies.

― Not That Chuck, Monday, 26 January 2004 15:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

I would say it's still the best record Holland has made as a leader. And a word as well for Marion Brown's Afternoon Of A Georgia Faun - the exact midpoint between '60s New Thing (Brown, Jeanne Lee, Andrew Cyrille, Braxton) and the '70s Miles thing (Corea, Maupin). Although side two seems to owe an awful lot to Brit improv (specifically SME's Oliv).

― Phoebe Dinsmore, Monday, 26 January 2004 15:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

The Keith Jarrett trio's last-but-one live album, Inside Out, is sublime -- it's all improvisation, no standards, but you'd never tell.

― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Monday, 26 January 2004 15:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

My favourite ECM Jarrett record is the Survivor's Suite album - Redman, Haden and Motian all at the top of their game.

― Phoebe Dinsmore, Monday, 26 January 2004 15:43 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'm a big fan of the '70s Keith Jarrett recordings like Belonging, whirligig, acoustic-but-almost-fusion, European in style (Jan Garbarek), big-headed, near-cheezy,but afterall, great tunes. "The Wind-up" is classic.

― scott m (mcd), Monday, 26 January 2004 16:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

These are both good:

― o. nate (onate), Monday, 26 January 2004 20:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

These are both good:

― o. nate (onate), Monday, 26 January 2004 20:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

someone do a Rough Guide!

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 26 January 2004 20:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

The three Codona albums are absolutely lovely.

Most of my favorite records on the label are just good ensembles which just happened to release records on ECM, not necessarily sterling examples of the ECM aesthetic. So, yeah the Circle record, the Marion Brown record, all the Art Ensemble stuff, the Music Improvisation Company record, the Bailey/Holland duet, the Hal Russell NRG Ensemble records + Hal's Bells, the Evan Parker Electro-Acoustic Ensemble records, etc. Didn't really care for Leo Smith's record on the label, though. Oh, the Nouvelle Vague soundtrack is fun too.

― Broheems (diamond), Monday, 26 January 2004 20:43 (9 years ago) Permalink

Oh yeaah, the Circle record. I love that record, especially "No Greater Love." Also there's Corea and Burton's beautiful duet album "Crystal Silence."

― Not That Chuck, Monday, 26 January 2004 20:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

Question: I was in the record store and saw a trio album by a European piano player who apparently is getting some hype this year. I got home and couldn't remember the name, even a little, anyone know?

Also, search: Art Ensemble of Chicago's great 'Nice Guys' record, and of course the last few Dave Holland Quintet records which are both incredibly classic and non-ECMish.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 January 2004 20:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

I've never been able to find a copy of 'Improvisations for Cello and Guitar' by Holland and Bailey, one of the v. earliest ECM releases (Eicher produced half of 'Nipples' too - a long way from the ECM aesthetic.)

I think I'm more kindly disposed to the ECM 'sound' (and think that's too often overstated, anyway) 'cos I cld list TONS of great mainstreamish jazz albs they've released: just last year, 'Rosslyn' by John Taylor, 'Extended Play' by Dave Holland, 'Changing Places' by Tord Gustavson and 'Universal Syncopations' by Miroslav Vitous were all really solid ECM recs.

(X-post w/ Jordan -yeah I think that might be the Gustavson rec I just mentioned. And the AEOC 'rarum' collection usefully collects together the best things from the mostly rather patchy 70s/80s ECM albs...)

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 26 January 2004 20:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

Thanks Andrew, that's the one. So what's it like? Does it swing (or does it sound European, har)? Is it ECM-y?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 26 January 2004 21:03 (9 years ago) Permalink

Oh you Americans and yr swing! It's a v. pretty/minimal/glacial/slow-moving piano trio rec - more to my taste than the Bad Plus or EST, but less 'innovative' or flashy. It's the Satie-esque side of Bill Evans (think 'Peace Piece') basically, with typically lush ECM sound - I'd rate it an 8 for ECMness.

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 26 January 2004 22:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

Per Matos' post: actually I was thinking of doing an album-by-album ECM guide on Naked Maja which is obviously going to be of inordinate length, but only if enough people are up for it (though it will have to wait 'til I get back from San Fran).

― Phoebe Dinsmore, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 09:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

I have this record from 1970 by Wolfgang Dauner called "Output" on what i always presumed was ECMs "experimental" subsidiary JAPO label that's fun and yet still quite ridiculous.. and also Globe Unity Orchestra "Intergalactic Blow" (which sounds nothing like Jefferson Airplane) from 1983.

did JAPO come first ? anyone know what JAPO is and where it fits in ?

― george gosset (gegoss), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 09:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

No JAPO was a subsequent subsidiary, started up about 1975, specifically to channel the "experimental" stuff from the ECM "mainstream" (the Dauner record was recorded in 1970 but not I think released until '75). Globe Unity's other two JAPO records "Improvisations" and "Compositions" also highly recommended, if you can find them.

― Phoebe Dinsmore, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 10:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

Funny, but I was back home last year and pulled out that MIC album to bring back to London, then later that day I read in Wire that it was one of the "greatest albums that's never been issued on CD" or some such - somewhat hyperbolic methinks. I remember looking at "World of Echo" and thinking, "Can I be bothered listening to this?" and deciding I couldn't (be bothered listening to it, that is) and now I find out that Arthur Russell is the greatest human being who ever drew breath.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 12:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

Thanks Andrew, that sounds worth checking out. I need more slow and pretty jazz in my life.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

it is great to see so little "destroy" on this thread... though i will suggest one. destroy: keith jarret "ruta and daitya". it's like herbie hancock doing don cherry, very poorly. kill that noise.

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 16:35 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'm sure there are tons of overly polite, classically influenced Eurojazz that are ECMlicious and that I would hate, but the great stuff is really great and I'm glad that ECM exists.

I remembered another one that I have to go back and listen to...this John Abercrombie organ trio record called Tactics that I remember being overly blurry and atmospheric (in playing and sound) except for a couple tracks, but I might like it a lot more now.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 16:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

The Art Ensemble of Chicago's Urban Bushmen is great. One hard-to-find, but definitely worthwhile, ECM title is the Jazz Composers Orchestra's Communications (it's available through ECM in Europe, but I've never seen a copy in the US).

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 16:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

I think it's great that ECM has managed to keep up this aesthetic for so long, I mean there are records that I don't associate with ECM (Conference of the Birds, Communications) but for the most part you know what you're getting. The definition of a good label. And those album covers!

― scott m (mcd), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 17:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

I forgot I also have this one that I picked up for a few bucks on used vinyl. It's more in the vein of Jarrett's classical recordings than his jazz stuff. He sticks to the written music, which is sort of Eastern sounding music for the piano written by the early 20th-century mystic G.I. Gurdjieff.

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 17:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

I picked up Bright Size LIfe yesterday thanks to the recommendation herein. I was looking for some relaxing wintery mood music, and that's pretty much what I got. Thanks!

― Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 17:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

Ah, Bright Size Life is great. Bob Moses!

Also, those 80s Jack DeJohnette Special Edition records are mostly pretty great, I always mean to check out more of them. I just looked at the ECM website, some of those 'selected recordings' comps look pretty tempting.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 17:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

destroy: egberto gismonte and charlie haden. its great music! the best parts are so angular and fragmented that it ends up sounding like "strings of life" played live, or bizarre fractal cut-ups of wyndham hill records (alex degrassi?). okay i'm spazzing a bit but i like their style that much. too bad the recording sucks. way too much dynamic range, thank you ecm! i'll be waiting until i've saved up for my linn before i put this one on again.

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 17:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

Saved up for your Linn what? (LP12/Lingo/Ittok/Rega Exact here! And Kabers! Woohoo!)

― Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 17:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

ooh, I forgot about Jack DeJohnette! Good call, Jordan. I only have the self-titled special edition record from 1979, but it's been a big favorite of mine for a while. Blythe and Murray on reeds. "Zoot Suite" is the killer tune; that one often pops in my head unexpectedly.

― Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 18:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

i saw it in a magazine. i forget what it was called. stackable mono amplifiers, i think. klimax solo, maybe? (they sure have funny names for a scottish company!) that is of course, pie in the sky. i'll be lucky to save up enough to replace my secondhand NAD system when it finally goes ...

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 18:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

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i dunno if you listen to rekkerds jon, but i see the marion brown LP around a lot and it's cheap if it's the US pressing--and still affordable as a german pressing.

― ian, Thursday, 12 November 2009 21:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

― Mr. Big STFU (ojo), Thursday, 12 November 2009 22:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

xpost Pretty much all my listening is at my desk at work on headphones, so i pretty much only listen to vinyl if it's been digitized. I can probably google up a link for that LP if I put my mind to it.

Someday, if I'm ever a fancy-schmancy work-at-home writer type again, I'll get back in the vinyl game...

― Durian Durian (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 12 November 2009 22:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

listening now to:

dreamy proto-new age stuff. pretty. would pair well with a mellow sativa high. possibly a korean skunk or afghani blend.

― scott seward, Friday, 13 November 2009 16:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

on another point, i gotta say this label's cover art is better than ever imo.

― jØrdån (omar little), Friday, 13 November 2009 16:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

finally heard a d/load of that dave holland/derek bailey duo that i mentioned in my January 2004 post (christ) - it's absolutely stunning, holland kinda mirrors bailey's sounds and moves so that at times it's nearly impossible to distinguish the instruments - def. one of the albs most deserving of a cd reish

and of course pl add my name to list of the conference of the birds lovers, love sam rivers as much as brax

― Ward Fowler, Friday, 13 November 2009 16:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

now playing:

great nervous energy on this. would pair well with a heady indica strain. perhaps a hong kong kush.

― scott seward, Friday, 13 November 2009 16:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

Great underrated trio record:

― Bay-L.A. Bar Talk (Hurting 2), Friday, 13 November 2009 17:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

There's a new book out about ECM cover art...

Windfall Light

― krakow, Saturday, 14 November 2009 00:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

Saw this thread the other day and it made me think, "I should check out my local shop's used ECM vinyl section." There are a lot of records in it. So I picked up this, one side of which I really like.

― Mark, Saturday, 14 November 2009 04:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

this record is crazy. don preston on synthesizers and drum machines and michael mantler on trumpet. half of the time the drum machine sounds broken with really dark washes of synth. sometimes the synth is doing more standard arpegios and stuff. it almost sounds like a mix of a goblin soundtrack and supersilent.

― jaxon, Saturday, 14 November 2009 06:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

speaking of Gary Burton , saw some Gary Burton thing on Vanguard at the rekkid store tonight ... A recording of a Carla Bley libretto? with like Gary Peacock and Coryell ... and also I think Steve Lacy? wait, why didn;t I buy this again?? oh well, sure it will be there tomorrow should I choose to go back

― Stormy Davis, Saturday, 14 November 2009 06:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

was it this? if so, it's really good.

― jaxon, Saturday, 14 November 2009 07:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

that's "a genuine tong funeral"

― jaxon, Saturday, 14 November 2009 07:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

yup, that's the one.

VG+ copy, 8.99

suppose I should grab it

― Stormy Davis, Saturday, 14 November 2009 07:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

never seen it before, also Reckless does grade really conservatively, I'll head back and take a look ... as i don't see any cat scratch stuff i will probably just grab it

― Stormy Davis, Saturday, 14 November 2009 07:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

i'm gonna have to light up an old fusion thread soon. bought a ton of records and got lots of 70's fusion stuff i've never heard.

― scott seward, Saturday, 14 November 2009 17:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

got in a copy of the enrico rava quartet album with roswell rudd from 1978 and was gonna price it and put it out in the store, but i really like it! so i think i'll just keep it. very cool mix of trad and less trad sounds. already played it three times today.

― scott seward, Saturday, 12 December 2009 18:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

i've been obsessing over certain strains of ECM over the past couple weeks. just went digging through a roommate's bag full of old jazz CDs, among which were the following ECM cd's. needless to say I'm very excited.

John Abercrombie - Cat'n'Mouse
John Abercrombie - The Third Quartet
John Abercrombie / Ralph Towner - Sargasso Sea
Dave Holland Trio - Triplicate
Dave Holland Quartet - Dream of the Elders
Dave Holland Quintet - Not For Nothin
Dave Holland Big Band - What Goes Around
Charles Lloyd - Voice in the Night
Charles Llod / Billy Higgins - Which Way is East
Paul Motian / Bill Frisell / Joe Lavano - I Have the Room Above Her

― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 01:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

having come back full circle to what i was into when i was 14, Bright Size Life being my favorite piece of music for a good year when i first started getting into jazz, I never knew anything about hte label it was on. i'm feeling pretty fucking great in early 2011 walking around in the freezing cold with ECM records like that and others in my earbuds

― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 01:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

the liner notes to the Higgins / Lloyd double disc are so wild. it's a transcription of a conversation between the two, the CD was released a few months before Higgins died, and it's eerily poignant and bittersweet. two old friends talking about all the shit they've done and Higgins saying, "here we are, on another plane now".

― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

i love those frisell/motian/lovano records. don't know much holland or abercrombie stuff, but they're both dudes i plan on getting around to.

― tylerw, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah man, so far the Motian one is my favorite. I'm trying to get It Should Have Happened A Long Time Ago by the same trio next.

― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

my fave by them is "sound of love" (which might just be under motian's name, but is a trio rec with frisell and lovano).

― tylerw, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

im feelin BITTER FUNERAL BEER so hard right now, definitely one of my ECM faves

― 69, Monday, 28 February 2011 22:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

I just scored a bunch of dollar ECM records... some Keith Jarrett solo joints mostly. Also a Collin Walcott solo record, had no idea the dude was in (the band) Oregon!

― sleeve, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 03:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

just read about the Ricardo Villalobos/Max Loderbauer ECM remix record:

http://www.theliminal.co.uk/2011/06/ricardo-villalobos-max-loderbauer-re-ecm/

― geeta, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

― D.S.K. What Does It Mean (lpz), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

Not sure what I think of this record; need to make more of an effort to give it the attention it (probably) deserves. Some of it is definitely great, but after a few listens while working I haven't absorbed much from it. Hopefully this is a good sign.

― toby, Thursday, 9 June 2011 05:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

this is great early 70s stuff - quiet fire guitar shredding and mr motian's sensitive fury on drums

― backlash stan straw man fan (m coleman), Thursday, 9 June 2011 09:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

ECM released and releases great music. For me, John Abercrombie is a recent discovery on ECM. I just love Metheny's 'Bright Size Life' but now Abercrombie is my new favorite ECM-guitarist. As for recent output, I'd recommend 'Class Trip', that title track gives me shivers (that first violin note...). His playing on John Surman's 'Brewster's Rooster' is also very good. Older output as 'Sargasso Sea' with Ralph Towner and an old recording with Enrico Rava too.

'Vignettes' by Marilyn Crispell and 'The viola in my life' by Morton Feldman on ECM are worth getting too. Sound and perfomance are stellar.

― EvR, Thursday, 9 June 2011 09:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm gonna have to light up an old fusion thread soon. bought a ton of records and got lots of 70's fusion stuff i've never heard.
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 November 2009 17:57 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Scott, did you do this - because I would like to read it? Cannot have too much fusion at the moment.

― Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Thursday, 9 June 2011 12:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

(I tried searching but it seem like only old threads?)

― Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Thursday, 9 June 2011 12:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

trying to get hold of a copy of BITTER FUNERAL BEER

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 10 June 2011 10:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://tristeshumanistes.blogspot.com/2011/03/bengt-berger-bitter-funeral-beer-band-w.html
(am at work so can't check link - I hope it works tho' because I would like it too, have you got/heard the live album(s)?)

― Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Friday, 17 June 2011 10:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

thanks - tho I meant a physical copy!

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 17 June 2011 10:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Was enjoying Eberhard Weber's Yellow Fields the other day, kind of similar to a lot of the music on Robert Wyatt's Rock Bottom.

― cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Friday, 17 June 2011 10:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

Must check that out, dude played on a lot of Wolfgang Dauner stuff, so he's a'right by me

― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 17 June 2011 10:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

Dunno any of his other stuff at all, so it might not be all that compared to the rest of his oeuvre. I do know he's Kate Bush's bass player though.

― cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Friday, 17 June 2011 10:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

sweet - I always admired the Pastorius-ish tones of the bass on some of KB's records (esp. Sensual World) so I'd def be interested in hearing this guy.

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 17 June 2011 11:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Well Mick Karn and John Giblin are also on that so it could be them, Weber's on double bass.

― cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Friday, 17 June 2011 11:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

Giblin's got a funny discog btw, he was the bass player on Scott Walker's Tilt AND Chris De Burgh's Lady In Red.

― cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Friday, 17 June 2011 11:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

If anybody wants to hear some of the Villalobos thing I've thrown a few track up on http://outloud.fm/ILXORS

― MaresNest, Friday, 17 June 2011 12:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

thanks - tho I meant a physical copy!
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 17 June 2011 10:34 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I had a feeling you meant that as soon as I posted it.

― Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Friday, 17 June 2011 13:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

11 months pass...

I've been exploring ECM releases recently with some help from this thread (and the other one). So far I've picked up John Abercrombie's "Gateway" and Eberhard Weber's "Colors of Chloe", both of which are exactly the sort of thing I was looking for - atmospheric, pretty but with enough going on to save them from being background music. "Gateway" is a bit more fusion-y, and "Chloe" is more minimalist, but both are great.

― o. nate, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:03 (11 months ago) Permalink

if you like calm, impressionist, folk-based jazz with a world touch i'd recommend anouar brahem, eg conte de l'incroyable amour. brahem is a tunisian oud player and the sound of his music is rather restrained and slightly oriental. one of the best on ecm these days.

― alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:29 (11 months ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

Revive this. I just discovered the entire ECM catalog is on Mog.

― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 10 March 2013 19:07 (2 months ago) Permalink

The first record by Rainer Brüninghaus, Eberhard Weber's keyboardist in Colors, is awesome. Kenny Wheeler and Jon Christiansen. No bass!

― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 11 March 2013 12:40 (2 months ago) Permalink

Other finds via MOG:

Azimuth -- Kenny Wheeler, Norma Winstone on cox and John Taylor on piano and Berlin-sounding EMS arpeggios. 1977! Pieces of this feel like Klaus Schulze and Joni Mitchell getting high on a mountaintop somewhere.

Jack DeJohnette and John Surman -- The Amazing Adventures of Simon Simon. More synths -- this time with bass clarinet and congas. Very cool.

Barre Phillps -- Mountainscapes. Yet more synths!! Feisty and swinging, synths provide atmosphere and texture for John Surman to bounce off. Again: 1976.

Keith Jarrett -- Spheres. Another record which has traces of Krautrock, and from the most unlikely of places. "Spheres, 9th Movement" sounds like something from Tangerine Dream before they left Ohr. Not thinking the similarities are intentional.

Eberhard Weber -- The Following Morning. In the non-electronic ECM edition, this comes w Rainer Brüninghaus on piano, but no percussion, just orchestra. Big fan of Weber's Pendulum as well, which is overdubbed bass -- which in his case is awesome, not horrifying.

― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 16 March 2013 19:06 (2 months ago) Permalink

Spheres has just been reissued; was sent a link to download it. Maybe now I will.

― 誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 16 March 2013 21:08 (2 months ago) Permalink

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