Cat Power/ Chan Marshall- genius or fruitloop?

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Personally I say genius (but I have to admit it's a fine line)

beth, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

She's neither loony nor genius. She's a very sweet person.

nathalie, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Funny thing: her records seem to be all about capturing something that other artists only capture live -- that is, the sort of off-time off-kilter weaving of someone who's not really playing to play well. The unfortunate effect of this is that when she plays live, it's even more rawly off-time and off-kilter, and good god can her live material be painful sometimes. You'd think, listening to one of those records, that she'd be a live powerhouse, but her performances ... sometimes it's as if she's just standing there dicking around.

Nitsuh, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I've been listening pretty exclusively to "Myra Lee" these past few days and it really keeps unfolding as a great album. I like it way better than "Moon Pix" at any rate which was a bit dead sounding.

Anyhow, I agree with Nitsuh that she can be excruciating live. Once I saw her and she was telling them to turn up and turn down the monitors for 15 minutes. Having said that, she *was* a live powerhouse in the tour right after moon pix, when she was with two fellows (one of whom I believe was Jim White) who helped rein in her more neurotic impulses, I think. There are some people who don't need to eb onstage alone, and Chan is one of them.

neil., Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, she's wonderful!
I never go to gigs anyway, so I wouldn't know what she's like live. Don't care. She's American, yeah? Bit like an American Beth Orton/Beth Gibbons fusion.

DavidM, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...
ok so I have found a cat power C/D thread and am greatly dismayed at the meager turnout. Did I mention I'm in love w/ chan marshall?? Chan is the best. She is quirky and cute and very very sweet. I truly believe that she is the genuine article. She just likes to sing songs and play the guitar and is completely without pretension. At her show a couple of weeks ago, she said "hey, guess what chord I learned since the last time I was here?" How cool is that? I've only seen her live twice, both within the past year and Ive loved both performances. I've heard comments about how painful or inconsistent the shows can be, but maybe that is from the olden days. Did I mention I'm in love with Chan??

ronnylongjohns: she's been singing this song, I saw it last summer too ronnylongjohns: I'm very eager to hear again, I hope she puts it on a record BlueOtterTwo: which song? ronnylongjohns: I dont know the name ronnylongjohns: It's the chorus I like BlueOtterTwo: tell me more BlueOtterTwo: ? ronnylongjohns: the chorus starts w/ her whistling this little melody ronnylongjohns: then she repeats the melody twice more but not whistling BlueOtterTwo: whistling?! ronnylongjohns: 2nd - wah wah WAH wah WAH ronnylongjohns: 3rd - Doo doo DOO doo DOO! BlueOtterTwo: neat ronnylongjohns: o my god it is the cutest thing I have ever seen BlueOtterTwo: i want it ronnylongjohns: at the end she got the audience whistling ronnylongjohns: over and over ronnylongjohns: while she did the wahs and doos BlueOtterTwo: i cannot whislte BlueOtterTwo: whistle ronnylongjohns: and when she realized that everyone was whistling ronnylongjohns: she got this tremendous grin ronnylongjohns: ahhhhhhh..... ronnylongjohns: sigh BlueOtterTwo: i think you are alive ronnylongjohns: I was for a minute there BlueOtterTwo: i meant in love

Ron, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

fucking hell

Ron, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

BlueOtterTwo: i think you are alive
ronnylongjohns: I was for a minute there
BlueOtterTwo: i meant in love

Best thing ever quoted on ILX award.

matthew m., Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Moonpix is an excellent album. I usually don't like 'singer- songwriters' but she is, i think, a especial talent. And, as has been mentioned before, very cute.

Julio Desouza, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Wasn't Chan once linked to Mr. Smog Callahan? Such a mentally sound couple that would be.

bnw, Saturday, 13 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

ronnylongjohns: awards sux0r
BlueOtterTwo: they do
BlueOtterTwo: if e ruled to world ronny
BlueOtterTwo: if we ruled the world
ronnylongjohns: i would give award to american gods
ronnylongjohns: and cat power
BlueOtterTwo: thank you
ronnylongjohns: the cool chick award
BlueOtterTwo: and i would give the grammy to cat power
ronnylongjohns: yeah
BlueOtterTwo: this is why we dont run the world
ronnylongjohns: we would never make it
BlueOtterTwo: we arent assholes
ronnylongjohns: oh i am an asshole alright
ronnylongjohns: you motherfucker!

Ron, Sunday, 21 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...
Ack. She is a genius. I am so much loving this new album that I've put four Cat Power threads into action.

S Samson, Monday, 24 March 2003 00:44 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i wish people would stop throwing the word 'genius' around like it were a bag of Baked Lays. Chan Marshall may be talented, but quite far from a genius. Grow up.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 24 March 2003 03:15 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i just want to say that i think fruitloop is a great and underused word

robin (robin), Monday, 24 March 2003 03:19 (fifteen years ago) Permalink


electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 24 March 2003 03:20 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

And "genius" and "fruitloop" are far from being mutually exclusive.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 24 March 2003 03:32 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
ah, roger adultery in fine form on this thread.

I have become the owner of "Myra Lee." I told my mom she might like Cat Power, but she didn't, so she donated the CD to me. It's okay so far. Previously the only Cat Power song I'd heard was that really popular one--I think it was called "I Don't Blame You."

Helios Creed (orion), Saturday, 9 October 2004 23:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I still think that "How" in Metal Heart, when she comes back in with it, is the most amazing syllable I've ever heard.

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

She's never done better than "Still in Love" and "Rockets" back-to-back.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 10 October 2004 01:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

being off-kilter feeds the beauty that is her vision. probably the only really amazing talent she has that might be perceived to be "genius" is her evocative vocals, but this quality could easily be dismissed if one didn't enjoy her overall work. i dont know marshall personally but i am very familiar with her music and i find it exceedingly human and humane. so, um, i dig her.

j.m. lockery (j.m. lockery), Sunday, 10 October 2004 02:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"Genius or madman"! I actually saw this actual phrase a couple of days ago in a newspaper in a museum. As a headline, from the forties. Below the 'genius or madman?' article was an article about how todays boxers were too soft, because they'd started using protective headgear and gloves. It was quite a long article. So was the genius or madman article. It devolved into this argument about whether epilepsy counted as madness.

m-ry-nn (m-ry-nn), Sunday, 10 October 2004 06:30 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Nowhere near a genius. SOmetimes flaky. Oftentimes pretty damn good but genius? Come the fuck on!

junior thompson, Sunday, 10 October 2004 11:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

She's never done better than "Still in Love" and "Rockets" back-to-back

This is, as you kidz say, OTM.

Vic Funk, Sunday, 10 October 2004 12:28 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Myra Lee is kind of a difficult album and not a great starting point, I don't think. I'd give anyone the Covers Album and dare them not to love it.

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 10 October 2004 13:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Ice Water

chan was a big inspiration for me. a fruity folk heroine. the new dvd is out in a couple weeks. two hours of her playing outside in a field.

i want to make creep folk pscyh noise with her and she has me demos.

as for her live, Nitsuh is OTM. the thing is, live, when she is onto something & havng a good night. the show works at a level that no other singer-songwriter reaches today. i have a video of her from knitting factory 96 and she does this version of water and air that is just downright gut wrenching genius.

kephm, Sunday, 10 October 2004 13:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

um, gut wrenching goodness is what i meant to type

kephm, Sunday, 10 October 2004 13:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

plus she has played shows w/R. Meltzer, M Ward, Sonic Youth.

kephm, Sunday, 10 October 2004 14:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

my friend jessie used to love cat power but only because she knew she could play and sing better than cat power and it boosted her ego.

keith m (keithmcl), Sunday, 10 October 2004 14:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

That's why I like Jay-Z

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 11 October 2004 02:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Sometimes Cat Power's guitar parts make me feel like I could play guitar, maybe. But seriously, her voice is crazy amazing, and I could never hope to touch it. Word.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 October 2004 03:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the covers record.

cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 15 October 2004 13:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I adore Moon Pix and it's one of my favorite albums, but Chan's onstage persona is so fucking contrived and retarded it makes me want to throw rotten tubers at her Dee Dee Ramone haircut.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 15 October 2004 14:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I own the covers record and have listened to it maybe twice. Like most of her stuff, it's pretty boring. Occasionally she does something good. Her new record has a couple of songs. But genius? Come on.

danh (danh), Friday, 15 October 2004 14:48 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

dee dee had more of a skullet

kephm (kephm), Friday, 15 October 2004 14:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Ok, so Johnny.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 15 October 2004 15:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

three months pass...
Revive! Cos I'm listening to Myra Lee for the first time and couldn't find a Cat Power C/D thread!

I think so far Myra Lee is my favourite Cat Power album, despite never hearing it before. I have What Would The Community Think, Moon Pix, and The Covers Record and I think I'd rank them so:

Myra Lee > What Would The Community Think = The Covers Record >> Moon Pix

I know a lot of people like Moon Pix best but I just don't get it. Am I alone?

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 16:59 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

seven years pass...

Well, good that she can laugh at herself,

It's not exactly funny though.

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 14:53 (five years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

mookieproof, Thursday, 26 January 2017 17:45 (one year ago) Permalink

finally, a definitive answer to the question in the thread title

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 26 January 2017 17:48 (one year ago) Permalink

Oh nooo

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 26 January 2017 17:52 (one year ago) Permalink

ummm... false?

the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 26 January 2017 17:55 (one year ago) Permalink

no, wait, true - but correlation is not causation?

the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 26 January 2017 17:55 (one year ago) Permalink

i give up

the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 26 January 2017 17:57 (one year ago) Permalink

holy shit no!!!

flappy bird, Thursday, 26 January 2017 18:48 (one year ago) Permalink

chan :(

flappy bird, Thursday, 26 January 2017 18:48 (one year ago) Permalink

omg have you followed her on twitter, i did for a week or so

rip van wanko, Thursday, 26 January 2017 19:19 (one year ago) Permalink

nope... fruitloop?

flappy bird, Thursday, 26 January 2017 19:19 (one year ago) Permalink

This (upthread) was clearly not watched enough.

dlp9001, Friday, 27 January 2017 00:18 (one year ago) Permalink

She's being funny come on.

Or is she?

dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 27 January 2017 07:19 (one year ago) Permalink

doubt it

flappy bird, Friday, 27 January 2017 07:23 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...


flappy bird, Monday, 16 April 2018 05:17 (six days ago) Permalink

what kind of question is this, geniuses usually are fruitloops

thots and players (rip van wanko), Monday, 16 April 2018 16:50 (six days ago) Permalink


after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Monday, 16 April 2018 18:07 (six days ago) Permalink

wish she'd release a new album.

akm, Monday, 16 April 2018 18:41 (six days ago) Permalink

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