OMD - Classic or Dud? S&D?

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I have only heard 'Julia's Song,' which I like. My sister says they're awfully mediocre. Confirm? Deny?

grammaphone (grammaphone), Monday, 12 May 2003 19:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Tom Ewing to thread!

DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 12 May 2003 20:21 (sixteen years ago) link

I love OMD up to some indiscernible point when they stopped being any good. They had lots of classic tunes - Electricity, Genetic Engineering, the good one about Joan Of Arc, Souvenir, Enola Gay, Tesla Girls etc.

I suspect they might be a singles band, but their Dazzle Ships album is meant to be very good.

nyeh, I own nothing by them! this is terrible.

DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 12 May 2003 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link

OMD: S&D

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 12 May 2003 20:45 (sixteen years ago) link

ooo thanks

grammaphone (grammaphone), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 02:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I have been re-discovering them a bit since a/ buying the remasters of their 1st 2 albums fopp rekkids' sale and b/ listening to this 20year old (!!!!!) boot of them from their "Dazzle Ships" tour, which I saw, and which was great. I think they're wonderful. I pulled out my old music books -"omd '77-'80" and "architecture & morality" (signed by mccluskey/humphreys/holmes & cooper after gig referred to above!), and have sussed out (v quickly) how to play "electricity" and "enola gay".
I had this terrible idea, which is to start an OMD tribute band (or duo really) I dunno what to do! Does anyone live in ne england who can sing like andy mccluskey? God...

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 10:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Surely the most important thing is whether you can do the dance ?!!

Student Teacher, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:03 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...
Someone put "Crush" on a cd for me recently, the post-Dazzle Ships pre-Sugar Tax albums are a closed book to me but it was very pleasing. Please tell me things about the parent album, or perhaps the horribleness of the Pacific Age sleeve.

Alex in Sheffield (Alex in Doncaster), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 07:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Please tell me things about the parent album

what, junk culture? it is fucking honking - literally. OMD go to montserrat, hire a horn section and program some horrible steel-drum noises on a fairlight. there's one paul humphrys-penned nod to "souvenir" in the form of the lost single "never turn away", but beyond that it's wank.

crush isn't great, IMHO, but the pacific age is, as i rediscovered on one of the other OMD threads. (this one, in fact, which seems to have become the official ILM OMD thread. actually ... an idea strikes me, and i'm off to the mod board.)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:06 (fourteen years ago) link

am i the only one that loves liberator and universal
"the boy from the chemist is here to see you " is brilliant.
i play the greatest more than anything.

teil nennant, Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Very timely revive. I was looking through the OMD threads just yesterday. I'm listening to "Second Thought (Reconsidered)" right now, actually.

Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:48 (fourteen years ago) link

i have "liberator" on tape and STR hating it. but i haven't listened to it in something like seven years. i have one of the singles from "universal" (maybe "walking on the milky way"?) and loathe it, but it has a transcendent live version of "maid of orleans" on the flip which make me forgive them anything.

x-post: woah, hang on, what's "second thought (reconsidered)"? is this different from the song "second thought"? be telling!

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:48 (fourteen years ago) link

re: Liberator

I actually like this record - or at least some of the things on it - very much.

"Best Years Of Our Lives" has one of Andy's best later vocal performances that I can think of.

There's something about the melody and bassline of "Stand Above Me" that gets stuck in my head and is infinitely hummable

Even now when I listen to Love Unlimited's version of "Love's Theme" I find myself singing the vocals from "Dream Of Me" over it - they work really well (shame about the lawsuit and all)

and then the sorta ecstacy-fuelled fun of things like "Agnus Dei" and "Christine" are great, if even a little more lightweight and forgettable than a great pop song should be

overall not their best album - but some good songs and a fun listen. also have great memories of driving around in my first boyfriend's fancy sedan listening to this cd on the expensive car hi-fi system (whole new world for this lower-middle class kid) that sorta makes this stick out in my brain even more than it should. i bought him a copy because he liked mine so much and i think it stayed in his car the entire time until he bought another one

rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:58 (fourteen years ago) link

There's something about the melody and bassline of "Stand Above Me" that gets stuck in my head and is infinitely hummable

despite the fact i've not heard this song since 1997, it's now stuck in my head. OK, OK ... i'll listen again. soon.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:08 (fourteen years ago) link

despite the fact i've not heard this song since 1997, it's now stuck in my head

haha! yes.

Alex in Sheffield (Alex in Doncaster), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:36 (fourteen years ago) link

:)

rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes, grimly, it's an alternate version that just brushes the five-minute mark. I'm not sure where it's from.

Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:59 (fourteen years ago) link

It's an extended remix by Mike Pitt, apaprently.

Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:07 (fourteen years ago) link

ian, thank you! that's enormously appreciated, and i shall try to reciprocate in some way. that said: i think everything, even the organisation 7", is pretty easily available now, isn't it?

i can sort you out with mkI human league stuff if you're interested, though. e-mail me (use the webmail link).

only snag is i'm at work at the moment so can't download easily (i think i got chinned by IT last time i tried) ... i'll do it the second i get home, assuming other OMD fans haven't used up the 20 downloads or whatever first ;)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link

haha grimly i'm in the same boat

rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link

It's okay, I'm actually trying to recover the first four LPs on mp3 since I accidentally deleted them a few months back and I've only managed a scattershot collection of songs from each. I do plan to buy the reissues tangibly once I have money but I'm still fairly broke and am trying not to spend so much. I've also come across extended versions and dance mixes of "Telegraph", "Tesla Girls", and "Genetic Engineering".

Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm actually trying to recover the first four LPs on mp3

hmmm. i can sort-of help you here, but in a really weedy and half-assed way :)

- my copy of OMD is on vinyl and un-MP3d: sorry
- i couldn't be arsed MP3ing "organisation" from vinyl so i bought it off iTMS, which - i think? - means the files won't work if i send you them. i can, however, burn you a CD of it. but is it worth the postage?
- i have MP3s of "architecture and morality" and "dazzle ships" but they're made from the vinyl. now, while i have grown to love all the pops and crackles over the years, you might think, fuck that, i'd rather have a CD rip (or, in the case of A&M, the remaster).

anyway. like i say: e-mail if you so desire.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link

i have the gloriously titled "312mm" version of "genetic engineering" on vinyl, although i honestly can't remember if it's an extended mix. there are, IIRC, two extended "telegraphs" ... and if you actually have the vinyl 12" you're looking at a semi-rarity.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Ahh, it's perfectly okay. I suppose I can wait a few months, don't worry about going through the trouble!

Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Fuck, I wonder if my mother had any early OMD singles on vinyl...

Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link

man that makes me feel old

rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Apparently that remix I uploaded is unofficial. It's nice, though -- not much different but it doesn't destroy the arrangement and makes it last a little longer.

Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...
Qoute from Andy McLusky just now on ITV's "After They Were Famous":

"I'd much rather be known as they guy who invented Atomic Kitten and wrote their number one, than the bloke who used to be in OMD"

WTF???

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Heh. Hey, if it keeps him happy.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

now, if he'd said, "I'd much rather be the guy who invented Atomic Kitten and wrote their number one, than just the bloke who used to be in OMD", i could understand it, just - i bet AK made him more sponds than OMD.

But he didn't.

He said he'd rather BE KNOWN AS THE MAN WHO INVENTED ATOMIC KITTEN.

Who else would like to be able to say that?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link

anyone who wants to make the serious cash.

only a few nutters hanging about a dying bulletin board care about OMD.

(nb i obv number myself in the latter)

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Has Atomic Kitten covered "Forever Live And Die" yet?

Dan (They Should) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

they are covering Tesla Girls as their comeback single. First new number 1 of 2006

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link

am i the only one that loves liberator and universal

Possibly. I sometimes forget that I own Universal because it's so bland. "New Head" is the only song on it I have time for, and that song barely sounds like OMD. There's a stretch of like five songs in the middle that are all awful.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...
only a few nutters hanging about a dying bulletin board care about OMD.

er, au contraire. we're so behind the times we don't even seem to have noticed that the classic line-up is re-forming.

this was posted on the official site on, er, january 1.


As previously reported, 2006 could well be the OMD Renaissance year with the reformation of the band now officially announced. To recap, Andy McCluskey, Paul Humphreys, Mal Holmes and Martin Cooper will be returning as OMD with concerts and a new album on the way. Joining them for live shows will be Stuart Kershaw. Here's what's on the schedule:

* OMD perform Architecture & Morality live
* A brand new OMD album
* Extensive European tour
* Remastered Dazzle Ships album
* OMD DVD
* Unreleased material album

i'm not entirely sure about the band re-forming and the new album. this could all suck a mammoth amount of dick; although given that i think they started sullying the fine name of OMD the second "junk culture" was released, it's not as if i'm that bothered. that said, i like the idea of them performing A&M in its entirety ... and of course i'll be going to see them live, no matter what ;)

but woah, remastered "dazzle ships" at last. and a DVD. and unreleased stuff. get in.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 12 March 2006 13:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Nice! Yeah, I missed all this news too.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 12 March 2006 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link

McClusky needs something to do now that Atomic Kitten have broken up.

So were they any good live?

Mitya (mitya), Sunday, 12 March 2006 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

McClusky needs something to do now that Atomic Kitten have broken up.

And that the band named after him took a similar powder.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 12 March 2006 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

So were they any good live?

i saw the mclusky-and-hired-hands OMD on tour in 1991 - or whenever "sugar tax" came out - and they were, against all odds, quite wonderful. clips i've seen of the "proper" band suggest the same.

but i'm very wary of reformations. very wary.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 12 March 2006 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

curses, mccluskey. not mclusky. although OMD bolstered by the former members of mclusky would ROCK ;)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 12 March 2006 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I saw OMD live in '84, '86, '91 and '93. The original 80s line up gigs were completely wonderful - and I recently reread my diary review of the '84 gig so can definitely verify that - and the '91 gig was good too (I could have met my wife that night as she was there too) but '93 was a bit tired really - bad venue, bad support act, bad sound and a bad album to promote.

I would adore seeing them perform "A&M" from end to end. I had the live 81 video and wore it out because it was so good, and such primitive electronics too. Now, if they were to use all the original instruments too...

Rob M (Rob M), Monday, 13 March 2006 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link

DING DING DING

The news was broken on Aja/Dante way back in January when McClusky announced all this. ILM IS THREE MONTHS BEHIND AJA/DANTE!!!

I haven't heard about a remastered version of Dazzle Ships. That excites me in several ways.

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Monday, 13 March 2006 11:28 (thirteen years ago) link

The remastered "Dazzle Ships" has been on the cards for about two years, with five extra tracks - the 12 inch versions of the two singles and their respective b-sides, plus "The avenue" from the "Locomotion" 12 inch (for some reason). Still no nearer getting issued though.

Rob M (Rob M), Monday, 13 March 2006 11:45 (thirteen years ago) link

and May last year on NYLPM "with the news that OMD are due to reunite, at the very least for a performance on German telly this month."

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/nylpm/2005_05_01_nylpm_archive.html#111576540197656225

kind of

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Monday, 13 March 2006 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Cool. Grimly -- I hope I will be standing beside you watching some of this stuff happen soon. Actually, it would be good to see you soon, even.

alext (alext), Monday, 13 March 2006 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link

seriously tho, this IS great news.

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Monday, 13 March 2006 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link

hurrah, ILM OMD posse drags its old-man arses into action. hello rob. hello alex [1]. hello alan. hello esteban ...

ILM IS THREE MONTHS BEHIND AJA/DANTE!!!

... fuck. rats' cocks.

[1] did you get my triptych e-mail? if not, let me know and i'll re-send.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

this is a mini version of those watercooler thread, amirite?

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link

It seems to have divided the fanbase straight down the middle, this one - which delights me a lot!

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 2 September 2017 08:02 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

A couple of weeks down the line and, if I'm to be honest with myself, this latest album hasn't connected with me anywhere near as much as the previous two - it still very much has its highlights, and I applaud them for trying to branch out here and there, but the end result comes across to me as English Electric part two, but the material is mostly nowhere near as good. If there is a next album, I'd like them to open up their sound palette a little more, get rid of the computerised voices, dial down the heavy Kraftwerk worship (which sounds less refreshing on this album) and focus a little more on the songwriting before they get stuck in some sort of creative rut.

English Electric was far more refreshing to my ears than Delta Machine, but this year with so many "classic" synth acts coming back with new albums, I think Depeche Mode's Spirit and Alison Moyet's Other are superior.

I'd rank The Punishment of Luxury far ahead of Erasure's rather morose and tune-free effort this year (World be Gone) - I haven't spend enough time with the new Numan yet, or the Fader album, and haven't yet heard the new Blancmange.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Sunday, 24 September 2017 16:16 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

just gave it a spin. lol @ me for getting all excited about a new OMD album and then forgetting about it. I think it's pretty good - kind of had the same feeling as listening to English Electric for the first time. I like that they're trying new things - "Robot Man" and "Art Eats Art" both made me smile. First two & last two tracks are great.

frogbs, Friday, 23 February 2018 17:51 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

i'm obsessed with Architecture & Morality at the moment. "She's Leaving" has one of those classic chord progressions that is made vital and eternal here. Outro drumming on "Joan of Arc" is massive, tho I'm always a sucker for military style beats. The record comes out of the gate with the fraught paranoia of "The New Stone Age" but the uncertainty continues throughout the arrangements on the rest of the record. Finely balanced between experimental soundscapes and perfect pop songs, this is one of the finest records I've heard.

Surely this album must have influenced a lot of acts, I can hear its DNA in MGMT's new one and Kuedo's first LP.

kolakube (Ross), Thursday, 15 March 2018 14:43 (one year ago) link

Seeing them tomorrow, been a few years.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 March 2018 19:37 (one year ago) link

enjoy the show Josh, and report back if ya feel like it

kolakube (Ross), Friday, 16 March 2018 02:01 (one year ago) link

Seeing them Sunday, first time!

geoffreyess, Friday, 16 March 2018 02:05 (one year ago) link

I know I'm late to the party, but I've always wanted to big them up for "Messages". Specifically the verse that (referring to the titular messages) contains "... I'd write and tell you that I burned them all. But you never sent me your address." (beat) "And I kept them anyway."
Love that. And the way the single version comes in with a rush, establishes the synth arpeg. and that runs all the way through. Great stuff that seems to get overshadowed by "Electricity" from their early tracks.

Maltrsnapper, Friday, 16 March 2018 11:17 (one year ago) link

Love Messages, especially the two manual basslines, one of which is pretty dissonant and curious at times.

MaresNest, Friday, 16 March 2018 11:40 (one year ago) link

any recommendations on a good album to go with after hearing architecture? i tried dazzle, but that ABC 123 song threw me off

kolakube (Ross), Friday, 16 March 2018 14:05 (one year ago) link

robot man robot man robot man

doing math just as fast as he can

frogbs, Friday, 16 March 2018 14:06 (one year ago) link

XP - Organisation then the debut, then try Dazzle Ships again.

MaresNest, Friday, 16 March 2018 14:11 (one year ago) link

Thanks!

tinnitus the night (Ross), Saturday, 17 March 2018 00:36 (one year ago) link

XP - Organisation then the debut, then try Dazzle Ships again.

exactly my recommendation as well.

organisation and architecture are natural companion albums and i can't imagine liking one without liking the other. debut has some absolute gems, and then after that dazzle ships is like a bonus wonderful LP that makes much more sense once you understand what they were departing from

Karl Malone, Saturday, 17 March 2018 00:41 (one year ago) link

I know I'm late to the party, but I've always wanted to big them up for "Messages". Specifically the verse that (referring to the titular messages) contains "... I'd write and tell you that I burned them all. But you never sent me your address." (beat) "And I kept them anyway."
Love that. And the way the single version comes in with a rush, establishes the synth arpeg. and that runs all the way through. Great stuff that seems to get overshadowed by "Electricity" from their early tracks.

otm. "electricity" is a catchy as hell but whenever i listen to "messages" it's just as thrilling as the first time i heard it

Karl Malone, Saturday, 17 March 2018 00:59 (one year ago) link

This is good timing because I was wondering if I should give Junk Culture a try. I hated Locomotion bitd but I don't know any other songs from that album. I'm a huge fan of their first 4 albums. I saw them live in LA a few years ago and it was awesome.

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 17 March 2018 01:05 (one year ago) link

Junk Culture is decent. Still a huge step down after the first four albums.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Saturday, 17 March 2018 04:18 (one year ago) link

They were great tonight. Can't believe that last show I saw was 5 years ago. Andy is such a fun frontman, and everyone was having such a great time, band and audience alike. What a strong catalog this group has.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 March 2018 04:20 (one year ago) link

Organisation is the one that I've been listening to the most recently.

Junk Culture isn't a step down from the work before it - it's just different. Partly because technology had moved on.

(This idea that they lost their "experimental" side completely after Dazzle Ships is a bit of a myth, really)

I've decided that I don't actually like their most recent album all that much.

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Saturday, 17 March 2018 10:05 (one year ago) link

Also, Dazzle Ships wasn't really that much of a departure for those who were listening closely, anyway. If anything, it was a return to the type of material they were doing very early on in '78.

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Saturday, 17 March 2018 10:10 (one year ago) link


Junk Culture isn't a step down from the work before it - it's just different.

"Different" in the sense that it's not as good.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Saturday, 17 March 2018 18:36 (one year ago) link

It has some clangers, 'Apollo' is terrrrrible, I listened to it again recently and was thinking that they intersect with Lowlife/Brotherhood-era New Order here and there 'Hard Day' for instance, then I realised that they got there a year or so earlier.

MaresNest, Saturday, 17 March 2018 18:47 (one year ago) link

What is so good about Dazzle Ships imo isn't the musique concrete stuff-- which is fine-- but the unhingedness of the performances? imo? I'm thrilled every time Andy just goes for it on "International", and the sound of the tom + out-of-tune guitar being mangled on "Of All The Things We've Made", those moments convey the-frustration-with-the-very-nature-of-the-process-and-a-lack-of-care-as-to-what-people-think better than any moment on, say, Big Star's Third

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 17 March 2018 19:37 (one year ago) link

For me, Andy's voice is key to the whole first four album's deal, seems obvious to say, but there is so much warmth and humanity in it, quite different to bleepy, purposefully robotic Gary Numan/John Foxx, the slate grey crooning of Ian Curtis or nagging post-punkers like Howard Devoto.

Not technically the greatest singer and a bit mannered and honky in places perhaps, but his vocal melodies really elevate the rest of the music even in it's weaker moments.

it's that and Humphries ability to write a memorable top line that enabled them to have one foot in Smash Hits and another indulging their Radioactivity era Kraftwerk studio fantasies.

MaresNest, Saturday, 17 March 2018 20:31 (one year ago) link

What I love about Junk Culture is that they never made an album quite like it again - it's this strange mix of music which, yes, brings to mind New Order (in the sense that they were pretty much using similar equipment) but far more polished than anything New Order did prior to 1989. This is then blended with horn sections and steel drums inspired by their surroundings during recording in Montserrat, and their own experimental impluses which can not only be still heard on the album itself but on the free single that came with the original album on the B-sides - most notably 'The Avenue' ...

... anyway, Austin is wrong.

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Sunday, 18 March 2018 00:55 (one year ago) link

Andy's voice is key to OMD full stop, not just the first four albums.

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Sunday, 18 March 2018 00:56 (one year ago) link

What a coincidence -- I just wrote about them!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 March 2018 01:01 (one year ago) link

come around to dazzle ships in a big way, my current fav. the 2008 remaster of architecture and morality sounds great too, beefed up drums and bass

tinnitus the night (Ross), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 19:58 (one year ago) link

Great! Did you go back and try out the first two?

MaresNest, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 20:51 (one year ago) link

I've heard organisation which is great bhr not familiar with self titled yet. Junk culture hasn't fully grown on me yet tho

tinnitus the night (Ross), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 20:55 (one year ago) link

I would hit up Crush before Junk Culture perhaps.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 20:59 (one year ago) link

okay thanks MaresNest, how do their later albums fare?

tinnitus the night (Ross), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 21:07 (one year ago) link

I love 'Dazzle Ships' a lot (though 'A&M' will always be my #1), but does anyone else find it slightly weird that its two best tracks--"Romance of the Telescope" and "Of All The Things We've Made"--were repurposed b-sides? I mean kudos to them not letting them languish as raritied, but it kind of cuts down the sense of 'DS' as some kind of coherent visionary statement album.

Soundslike, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 21:13 (one year ago) link

Silent running tho !

tinnitus the night (Ross), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 21:17 (one year ago) link

Well lets say two *of* its best, then : )

Soundslike, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 21:21 (one year ago) link

Good point tho sounds like :) those are fantastic songs

tinnitus the night (Ross), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 21:28 (one year ago) link

I've read that DS was started before they were really quite ready to make a record, hence the greater leaning toward experimentation and the repurposing of B-Sides, Radio Waves was an older, pre-OMD track iirc.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 21:36 (one year ago) link

Junk Culture is great! Sometimes I dig it more than the first four. "White Trash" is such a cool track.

Crush is good, a bit of a step down IMO but it has some excellent tunes - "Bloc Bloc Bloc", "88 Seconds in Greensboro", and "Women III" are all real catchy and just gimmicky enough, if you know what I mean. Loses some steam on Side 2 but overall pretty decent.

Pacific Age on the other hand kinda shows them slipping. I like "Forever Live and Die" and I recall "Goddess of Love" being good but I can't recall how that one goes anymore. I believe this one was made in the wake of the success of "If You Leave" which is not a good thing. It also isn't really recognizable as an OMD record.

Sugar Tax though is a highlight. I think most people would agree it's their best from 1985 until, I dunno, English Electric perhaps. I've heard this was more or less a McClusky solo effort but it's definitely got the OMD sound to it.

The next two, Liberator and Universal, get maligned an awful lot. Liberator because it jumps full on into its 90s dance rhythms, sounding often like a garbage "OMD...In The Mix!" style album. Universal because it's just blah, boring cover, unmemorable tunes, though some of it is very very good, for example "Very Close to Far Away". I'd skip both of these.

As for their comeback albums - this era from 2010 on where they hop on the vintage synths and try to sound like their old selves, is very much a hit for me, since they really do nail that old sound. History of Modern is a pretty cool record, a bit of a grab bag perhaps (featuring a couple songs clearly intended for other artists), but it's mostly good. The "Europe Endless" aping closer "The Right Side?" is one of my very favorite OMD tracks. English Electric is even better, a very modern-sounding take on the Kraftwerk sound, I think if you dig classic OMD then you'll like this one very much. It sounds like what the follow-up to Dazzle Ships ought to have been. As for their latest (Punishment of Luxury), I actually think it's more fun overall, though it doesn't quite have the replay value of EE. But it's very good.

Anyway, those are all my opinions on OMD at the moment

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 21:43 (one year ago) link

Good post frogbs!!

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 21:55 (one year ago) link

Nice one frogbs, I love the second side of Crush though, man 'Native Daughters...', OMD does Kashmir!

MaresNest, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 22:06 (one year ago) link

Nice post frogbs _ very thorough

tinnitus the night (Ross), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 23:12 (one year ago) link

I listen to Crush as much as the formative albums. I never listen to Pacific Age or Sugar Tax. B Sides collection, whatever they call it, is excellent as well.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 23:32 (one year ago) link

I first heard OMD in a synthpop band I was in as a teen (Enola gay). No idea why it took me to 34 years old to get into this amazing band

tinnitus the night (Ross), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 23:33 (one year ago) link

Sugar Tax is def. the best album to be put out under the OMD name between Junk Culture and English Electric. Although I love the highlights of Crush and The Pacific Age. History of Modern is good, but a couple of tracks too long. I never listen to Liberator or Universal beyond a couple of tracks fron each.

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 06:13 (one year ago) link

good lord they were great tonight in L.A.

McCluskey is a great frontman, he reminds me of Karl Hyde a bit in terms of ageless and endless energy. And it's insane how his voice remains virtually unchanged as far as I can tell. I didn't catch any compensating for lost range or taking it easy in certain sections of early era songs. I had suspected as much from his vocals on the recent albums but the live show confirms it. Brilliant.

omar little, Friday, 30 March 2018 06:54 (one year ago) link

yeah I saw them for the first time on the English Electric tour and ^that's totally otm

willem, Friday, 30 March 2018 09:13 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

saw them again last night as part of a bill w/the B-52s and Berlin and while the other two were respectively great and good, these guys are absolutely incredible. On another level live. They are also one of the few legacy bands who can drop in a new song or two mixed in with the old hits and have it sound on par. I do think due to the relatively shorter set vs the last time i saw them, the only newish one they played was History of Modern Pt 1, which is superb and one of the better "everything you know will be gone someday" songs. i.e. "mono no aware-core"?

i guess from their albums i always thought maybe they'd be a bit more low-key performers, maybe even more serious, but they're just good-humored, fun rock stars. The crowd was i think mostly there for the B-52s but you could tell they were completely won over by OMD.

omar little, Monday, 5 August 2019 18:44 (four months ago) link

three weeks pass...

A new/old thing, with unreleased bits.

OMD - Souvenir - (5xCD/2xDVD Super Deluxe Boxset)

Please note this boxset does not include the Electricity 7" Single - that will be back on pre-order soon.
Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark (OMD) continue their 40th anniversary celebrations with the launch of a career boxset and brand new greatest hits collection. The special box set will comprise 5xCDs and 2xDVDs housed in a 10” box set, together with a hardback book, poster and a series of 10” prints.
The audio discs include all the band’s singles from ‘Electricity’ to ‘What Have We Done’, as well as a brand new single ‘Don’t Go’, exclusive to this release. The box set also includes a previously unreleased live show from the Hammersmith Odeon in 1983, 22 previously unreleased demos from the archive which have been selected and mixed by Paul Humphreys, rare and unreleased live material from the BBC and an entire live show from the Mermaid Theatre in 2011.
One of the DVDs contains BBC TV performances from Top Of The Pops, Old Grey Whistle Test, Later With Jools Holland and more. The other contains a live show from Sheffield City Hall in 1985, another live show from the Theatre Royal, Drury Lane in 1981, as well as Crush – The Movie.
The book contains unseen photos, single sleeve artwork, an introduction by Paul Morley and sleeve notes to accompany the archive material by Andy McCluskey.
This announcement comes as part of another exciting installment of the band’s anniversary celebrations which first saw the reissue of their first four classic albums on 180g vinyl, mastered at half speed by Miles Showell at Abbey Road and housed in their original iconic die cut sleeves designed by the legendary Peter Saville, followed by the huge world tour. The band, Andy McCluskey, Paul Humphreys, Martin Cooper and Stuart Kershaw will be starting in October in Portugal, stretching through to February 2020 finishing in Paris. To coincide with the band’s Liverpool show, there will be upcoming exhibitions happening at the British Music Experience and Museum Of Liverpool to celebrate the band’s impressive legacy.
"OMD - Souvenir", is out Friday, 4th October 2019 on UMC/Virgin and available for pre-order now.
NB: All products ordered with a pre-order will be dispatched together close to the latest pre-order release date. If you want earlier dispatched for another product then please place separate order(s).
Disc 1 - The Singles 1979 - 1987
Electricity
Red Frame/White Light
Messages
Enola Gay
Souvenir
Joan of Arc
Maid of Orleans
Genetic Engineering
Telegraph
Locomotion
Talking Loud and Clear
Tesla Girls
Never Turn Away
So in Love
Secret
La Femme Accident
If You Leave
(Forever) Live and Die
We Love You
Shame
Disc 2 - The Singles 1988 - 2019
Dreaming
Sailing on the Seven Seas
Pandora's Box (It's a Long, Long Way)
Then You Turn Away
Call My Name
Stand Above Me
Dream of Me
Everyday
Walking on the Milky Way
Universal
If You Want It
Sister Marie Says
History of Modern (part 1)
Metroland
Dresden
Night Café
Isotype
The Punishment Of Luxury
What Have We Done
Don't Go
Disc 3 - Unreleased Archive Vol I.
Brand New Science (06.1981)
Dumbomb (01.1986)
Violin Piece (09.1982)
Untitled 2 (06.1981)
Cut Me Down (03.1986)
Radio Swiss International (09.1982)
Untitled 3 (09.1982)
Weekend (04.1985)
Organ Ditty (05.1980)
Unreleased Idea (06.1981)
Cajun Moon (05.1986)
Guitar Thrash (09.1982)
SMPTE (12.1982)
American Venus (04.1990)
Liberator (02.1985)
Ambient 1 (04.1980)
Unused 1 (12.1980)
Flamenco (04.1990)
Andy’s Song (04.1985)
Dynamo Children (01.1985)
Flutey (03.1984)
Nice Ending (06.1981)
Disc 4 - Live at the Mermaid Theatre, London (03/02/2011)
Messages
Tesla Girls
New Babies New Toys
History of Modern (Part 1)
(Forever) Live and Die
Souvenir
Joan of Arc
Maid of Orleans
New Holy Ground
Green
Walking on the Milky Way
Sister Marie Says
Locomotion
Sailing on the Seven Seas
Enola Gay
Electricity
Disc 5 - Live at the Hammersmith Odeon (10/05/1983)
Dazzle Ships - Parts II,III & VII
ABC Auto Industry
Messages
She’s Leaving
Georgia
Almost
Julia’s Song
Joan of Arc
Maid of Orleans
Statues
The Romance of the Telescope
Souvenir
Telegraph
Radio Waves
Bunker Soldiers
Enola Gay
Silent Running
Electricity
Pretending to See the Future
Stanlow
DVD1 - BBC TV Performances
Messages (The Old Grey Whistle Test 15/04/1980)
Messages (Top Of The Pops 08/05/1980)
Messages (Top Of The Pops 29/05/1980)
Enola Gay (Top Of The Pops 09/10/1980)
Souvenir (Top Of The Pops 03/09/1981)
Joan of Arc (Top Of The Pops 29/10/1981)
Maid Of Orleans (Top Of The Pops 14/01/1982)
Genetic Engineering (Top Of The Pops 03/03/1983)
Locomotion (Top Of The Pops 19/04/1984)
Locomotion (Top Of The Pops 03/05/1984)
Talking Loud and Clear (Top Of The Pops 05/07/1984)
Tesla Girls (Top Of The Pops 13/09/1984)
So in Love (Top Of The Pops 30/05/1985)
La Femme Accident (The Old Grey Whistle Test 22/10/1985)
(Forever) Live and Die (Top Of The Pops 18/09/1986)
Dreaming (Wogan 27/06/1988)
Sailing on the Seven Seas (Top Of The Pops 02/05/1991)
Pandora's Box (It's a Long, Long Way) (Top Of The Pops 11/07/1991)
Pandora's Box (It's a Long, Long Way) (Top Of The Pops 25/07/1991)
Call My Name (Pebble Mill 11/12/1991)
Stand Above Me (Top Of The Pops 13/05/1993)
Walking on the Milky Way (Top Of The Pops 16/08/1996)
Enola Gay (Later With Jools Holland 31/05/2013)
DVD2 - Live at Theatre Royal, Drury Lane (04/12/1981), Live at Sheffield City Hall (14/06/1985) and Crush - The Movie
Live at Theatre Royal, Drury Lane (04/12/1981)
Almost
Mystereality
Joan Of Arc
Motion and Heart
Maid Of Orleans
Statues
Souvenir
New Stone Age
Enola Gay
Bunker Soldiers
Electricity
She's Leaving
Julia's Song
Stanlow
Live at Sheffield City Hall (14/06/1985)
The Romance Of The Telescope (intro)
Crush
Messages
Secret
Tesla Girls
White Trash
Talking Loud and Clear
Maid Of Orleans
Telegraph
Enola Gay
Electricity
The Romance Of The Telescope
Crush - The Movie
Bloc Bloc Bloc
The Native Daughters Of The Golden West
So In Love
88 Seconds In Greensboro
Hold You
Women III
Crush
La Femme Accident
Secret
The Lights Are Going Out
Format: 5xCD/2xDVD Super Deluxe Boxset
Catalog Number: 7732451
Bar Code 0602577324512
Label: UMC/Virgin
Release Date: Friday, 4th October 2019

MaresNest, Monday, 26 August 2019 13:09 (three months ago) link

I like OMD but that is too much OMD for me.

akm, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 12:48 (three months ago) link

Maybe in list form, but listened to? I bet it's just right!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 13:20 (three months ago) link


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