The Best OMD album?

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What is the best Orchestral Manuevers in the Dark Album? My snobby friend says Dazzle Ships. True?

J Berry Brown, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

yeah, I wanna know too

Paul, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dazzle Ships is pretty great, no question. But I think in terms of balancing the art/chart aspirations of the early band, Architecture and Morality. Any album with "Souvenir," "Joan of Arc" *and* "Maid of Orleans" on it = worthy.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I second Ned's opinion...Souvenir is a TOP tune!

spongebob, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dazzle ships is the most experimental I guess......

It's also my favourite...

This is Helena, your MC today..

baxter wingnut, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Theres even no question about that the best OMD album is Atomic Kitten's "Right Now"

vic, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

That is because you are insane.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dazzle Ships is the best Kraftwerk rip-off album ever! It's also probably the best OMD album though Marcello made a very persuasive case for Architecture... and I remember that album only dimly. I should relisten.

Tom, Saturday, 13 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like "Dazzle Ships" but, in my opinion, the best OMD album is "Architecture & Morality".

salvador, Saturday, 13 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Depends how I feel on the day I'm listening, but it would be either "A&M", "Dazzle ships" or "Organisation". Points in favour of each:

"A&M", great songs from start to finish, sounds lovely and pastoral, includes superb title track. "Dazzle ships", weird but still wonderful, pop tunes and experiment too, includes superb "Genetic engineering". "Organisation", almost great songs from end to end, best post "Closer" album ever, includes 3rd fave song of all time "Statues".

Rob M, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Another vote for Dazzle Ships here. But all of the first 6 LPs have their moments. "88 Seconds in Greensboro" anyone?

n, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

oops, that was me above (not mr.dastoor)

Jeff W, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

oh come on, it's the one with "So In Love"

g, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

two years pass...
How about something modern for OMD interest? I like Sugar Tax. Plus, I like to quiz my brother about seeing OMD with the Thompson Twins in the 80's.

dave kirkland, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 04:31 (nineteen years ago) link

oooh, could someone do a chronological CD80 portable? I'm not familiar enough but love the singles I know well. Alan Partridge mentions 'Architecture & Morality'!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 04:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Hm, let me think about that. You could almost do that with just the first four albums alone.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 04:45 (nineteen years ago) link

The B-sides collection, forget the title, is surprisingly great.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 04:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Navigation

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Thank you. The first track is a masterpiece.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 04:50 (nineteen years ago) link

>The first track is a masterpiece.

what, "almost"? it's OK. but i don't think it's a patch on "i betray my friends". one bizarre summer, when i was 15, i listened to that song and nothing else for two weeks.

"the romance of the telescope" is exquisite, but the version on dazzle ships (ie the "finished" one) is slightly superior. and "4-neu" ... aah, there's a tragic and embarrassing story attached to me and that song ... oh, i need to go to a meeting now. that's a shame, i'll probably never get to tell it :)

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd vote for A&M as the best - adventurous, emotional and brave. Mind you there's little between the first 3 albums - all great really.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:49 (nineteen years ago) link

any album with this on it is the best cuz it is the best song ever made:



This is the room
This is the wall
This is the body
I’ve been hoping for
These are the words
I’ve been longing just to say

So this is my goal
The aim of my life
This is the feeling
They warned me about

Oh my God,
What have I done this time
Oh my god,
What have I done his time

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link

but what is the best ozark mountain daredevils album?

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:07 (nineteen years ago) link

nice to see all the love for Dazzle Ships, cos it's my favorite too. but really all of the first 4 are great.

rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:08 (nineteen years ago) link

speaking of - does anyone (hopefully) know of plans to continue the great reissues like they did for the first 3? Dazzle Ships is in dire need of a reissue/remaster/bonus-tracked release, but I haven't seen anythign about it.

rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:45 (nineteen years ago) link

i thought dazzle ships *had* been reissued, although without any extra tracks. the website will have the answer, i'm sure (OMD has become a cottage industry these days):

http://www.omd.uk.com/

they should reissue the *vinyl*. one of saville's finest hours. the way the dots on the map fill in as you insert the inner sleeve makes me weep with joy.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The B-sides collection, forget the title, is surprisingly great.

One of their best, actually!

frankE (frankE), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:32 (nineteen years ago) link

OMD vinyl seems pretty easy to find...
Junk Culture's fun too; band goes "tropical".

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:52 (nineteen years ago) link

"they should reissue the *vinyl*. one of saville's finest hours. the way the dots on the map fill in as you insert the inner sleeve makes me weep with joy."

I found this for $2! It's marvellous!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 26 August 2004 01:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Chist am I the only one here that likes Crush?

I never thought that I would see a discussion of OMD on ILM. Didn't seem cool enough somehow.

hector (hector), Thursday, 26 August 2004 02:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Are you kidding? Have you seen the Pseudo Echo and Ned's Atomic Dustbin threads? Cool is not a prerequisite!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 26 August 2004 03:15 (nineteen years ago) link

> I never thought that I would see a discussion of OMD on ILM.
> Didn't seem cool enough somehow.

it took me a long time to "come out" as an OMD fan. i remember playing architecture and morality to a university friend (favourite band: husker du) who was blown away ... but refused to believe that this cheesy little synthpop band was actually so goddamn powerful.

had they quit (as they said they would) after a&m or dazzle ships, they'd be feted now as pioneers. dazzle ships, after all, is probably the single most daring and unusual album by a mainstream pop band of the 1980s. but they got greedy, they got bloated, they got boring. i mean: trumpets! recording on montserrat! good god.

mind you, the other problem ... they did look like complete muppets. the geek chic thing only really began to work circa dazzle ships: perhaps because the jerky, fragmented music worked well with their, er, jerky image. compare and contrast with the human league, who'd also blanded out badly by the mid-80s: at least they had an image to keep them afloat.

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 26 August 2004 09:40 (nineteen years ago) link

five years pass...

"Even in America, they understand the value of religion."

"Telegraph (Manor Version)" on the expanded Dazzle Ships is incroyable: evidently recorded at the same time as Architecture & Morality, it has a significantly different lyric, taking the religious angle quite a lot further than in the Dazzle Ships album version.

It's one of those days when I think OMD is the best band in the world.

Most important performer of our generation: (Euler), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I would rep for "Organisation" here. I love "Architecture and Morality" as well, but some of the tracks are still a bit too... Well... pointing towards "Dazzle Ships", maybe.. Whereas "Organisation" is a wonderful synthpop album all the way through, and it is almost incredible that no other single than "Enola Gay" was ever released from it.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:27 (fourteen years ago) link

dazzle ships, after all, is probably the single most daring and unusual album by a mainstream pop band of the 1980s

http://bbblog.ubisonic.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/talk_talk-spirit_of_eden.jpg

And both largely failed.......

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:29 (fourteen years ago) link


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