Search & Destroy: Flying Nun

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T. Weiss (Timmy), Thursday, 23 January 2003 05:34 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

some good discussion on this very topic here:

SEARCH! AND DESTROY!: NEW ZEALAND

destroy: Drill, Garageland, HDU, search: (nearly) everything else!

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 23 January 2003 05:40 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

p'haps, for a first introduction, it'd be good to start with a coupla Search-y label compilations, e.g.
- 'Getting Older 1981-1991' & 'Pink Flying Saucers Over The Southern Alps'
(after that it's certainly clearer what to look for and what to avoid further on)

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Thursday, 23 January 2003 05:45 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Why do people hate Garageland so much? They're pleasant and inoffensive at worst, and fairly good at best.

paul cox (paul cox), Thursday, 23 January 2003 05:57 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i had a violently allergic reaction to "Fingerpops" and "Beelines to heaven"

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 23 January 2003 05:58 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

(am i here lusting after an altogether wrong Nun??)

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Thursday, 23 January 2003 06:01 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'm kind of at a loss as to what FN has done in the past 5-6 years (post-aborted US office) outside of a King Loser record I really liked. I've heard bits and pieces of their new roster off of comps but nothing that's shook me up. seems like they'r egoing after the same sort of garage bands we have here in the States what with the D4 and the Datsuns. hasselhoff xperiment was not too exciting and HDU sound far too serious for their own good, with none of the breaking points that made bailter space fun.

still though, there was a good 7-8 year stretch where FN didn't release anything but great music. the clean, the chills, dead c., the bats, the renderers, bailter space, the gordons, 3Ds and a lot more. when I was just getting into good music in high school, it was the wisdom of Pittsburgh college radio and record store clerks that turned me onto all the unbelievable music coming out of NZ at the time, none of which I've forgotten. saw the dead c. and they were fantastic, and once saw the 3Ds come within inches of blowing Pavement off their own stage.

lookin for any sorta bands that fall back into that whole Xpressway pattern these days. the closest i've heard was the snares.

mosurock (mosurock), Thursday, 23 January 2003 06:10 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

search : axemen (1st album), scorched earth policy, the puddle, snapper
destroy : etc etc & so on & so on but especially everything after about 1988, & the headless chickens

duane, Thursday, 23 January 2003 07:27 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

They released the best (imo) Razorcuts single - I Heard You the First Time.

Jez (Jez), Thursday, 23 January 2003 07:46 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i really like the 7"s by SF ("supra") and olla. duane? can you point me in the direction of things like that?

your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 23 January 2003 11:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

gosh, i have the SF and Olla singles somewhere, I'd forgotten I even owned them.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 23 January 2003 23:04 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I've got the Olla single as well but fuck if I know where it is (which box it's in). Or can remember what it sounds like. I'll try to find and reco tonite.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 23 January 2003 23:18 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

yeah they were supposed to get a jesus and mary chain record and had to settle for the razorcuts, not a fair deal.

johnny marr was on letterman last night, i think he is trying to be mistaken for noel gallagher. maybe flying nun will licence it for nz.

keith (keithmcl), Friday, 24 January 2003 01:38 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

or even better, they could get exclusive license rights and then not release it, so no NZ release for Johnny Boy. And NZ is spared.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 24 January 2003 02:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Search: Tall Dwarfs and solo stuff,The 3d's,Snapper,The Puddle, The Clean,The Bats,Verlanes,Look Blue Go Purple, The Gordons and most of the Comps. My Favorites Being Tuatara and Pink Saucers Over The Southern Alps.
Destroy: Garbageland, D4,Betchadupa,Straight Jacket Fits

brg30 (brg30), Friday, 24 January 2003 02:12 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

when I was just getting into good music in high school, it was the wisdom of Pittsburgh college radio and record store clerks that turned me onto all the unbelievable music coming out of NZ at the time, none of which I've forgotten. saw the dead c. and they were fantastic, and once saw the 3Ds come within inches of blowing Pavement off their own stage.

So this 3d's show, was it the one at City Limits on the Crooked Rain Tour? That was the last show I saw before moving away from Pittsburgh. And The 3d's destoryedPavement, they shouldn't have even played....

brg30 (brg30), Friday, 24 January 2003 02:15 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

it was indeed. I can't remember if I ever saw another show out there but that club didn't last too much longer. In a strip mall, in between a bingo hall and a pet store (and the animals were EXTREMELY agitated having to hear death metal bands every night), in the middle of fuckin nowhere.

mosurock (mosurock), Friday, 24 January 2003 07:39 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Search: besides the usual suspects, the one Crude album Flying Nun released. Though the Straight Jacket Fits may suck, the Double Happys are ace, just to mention a band no one has listed. Also, love the Bill Direen stuff too, especially the earlier eps and LPs.

Destroy: Pretty much agree completely brg30's assessment.

jack cole (jackcole), Friday, 24 January 2003 07:56 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

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i really like the 7"s by SF ("supra") and olla. duane? can you point me in the direction of things like that?


uh, there aren't really any more things like that. the crude album that jack mentioned is good tho, if you liked those you'd prob. like that one

duane, Friday, 24 January 2003 08:16 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

oh, GOD, does that crude album kill me. wish he would've had more stuff released properly (though he seems to have piles of self-released material laying around).

your null fame (yournullfame), Friday, 24 January 2003 10:14 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

yeah that one (the FN album) is a compilation of stuff off his self released tapes.....there's tons of em, they're all pretty good too.

duane (24 hour troubleshooter), Friday, 24 January 2003 12:29 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

search the singles/videos : betchadupa "supa day", d4 "ladies man", hasselhoff experiment "man in red"/"drag racer", loves ugly children "6pack"/"suck". um that snapper single "buddy" was cool but the rest of their stuff is just this noize shit or somethin.

huh, Saturday, 25 January 2003 08:27 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

albums you definitely, definitely should search (there's probably more, but I'm kinda in the dark on a lot of these bands): Bats' "Daddy's Highway," Clean "Anthology," Chris Knox "Meat," Tall Dwarfs' "Weeville".

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 25 January 2003 19:01 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

why don't non-nzers get the straitjacket fits...there first ep is one of our greats.....
easy best f.nun band: the gordons....everything!!! coalminers song is one of thee great gutar riffs
tall dwarves : hairy slugbucket mini lp is amazig also
and yeah..the comps are all good..tuatara especially
i'd say the reason f.nun started signing grunge/garage bands was that all that jangle shit was statig to sound very tired and 3rd generation by the time late 90's swung around

toe-foo, Sunday, 26 January 2003 12:47 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

search : The chills - rolling moon 7" (i found it!) :-9

Jens (brighter), Sunday, 26 January 2003 14:12 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

why does hdu get so much hate?

Laney, Sunday, 26 January 2003 22:39 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

because thet're junkies, nobody likes junkies

forbidden or obsolete (24 hour troubleshooter), Sunday, 26 January 2003 23:34 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Cos they're gothy

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 27 January 2003 11:50 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

hdu live may be noise but it's most instantly recognised by a naive listener as pain, and their riffs as slowed down derivatives -- i dunno, _some_ of their fans look like they cut themselves up etc.

matt middleton (crude) has been prolific, and there's a sense of humour in his music lacking in most alt. rock -- and "all electric --the personal tragedy of flooding" and the crude cd "sax sothis" are fun non f.nun outings -- a matt middleton subscriber service & mailing list is needed here

f.nun is operating a bit differently to the south island based independent it used to be -- it belongs to a big multi-national now -- which seems to have produced a change of emphasis, or was it the change of emphasis that led to the need to up-size ?

george gosset (gegoss), Monday, 27 January 2003 12:30 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

HDU to naive listener = 'ambient wall of sound' to best of my knowledge of naive listeners

judging a band on their fans is the lamest thing ever

HOWEVER i do know that when i used to go to their gigs at bodega (ahh bodega, how i miss you!) no one would dance except me. they were brillaint ambient rock attack when they were on. (and dullards elsewhere)

Laney, Monday, 27 January 2003 20:41 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

'ambient' is imcompatible with (loud as we're aloud to be) 'wall of sound' and h.d.u. have demonstrated that they want to be as loud as they can get away with, and maybe that they themselves are oblivious as to how dangerously loud they are for everyone unfortunate enough to find themselves in front of their p.a.

loudness is ones of those devices used to overcome listeners, give the impression there is 'something' /anything there -- maybe that 'anything' is what you mean when you say 'ambient', but hdu just use riffs that are loud, old, obvious, slow, vaguely retarded sounding yet h.d.u. try and hide the riffs under excruciatingly loud primitively melodic but excessively irrelevant noise -- the impression given is of a band of deaf drunk noisey mark pauline type industrial robots let loose on each other -- except you can't see robots, just bandmembers moving vaguely to their dopey riffs -- they look as if they're having as much fun as the night shift at some factory in siberia

h.d.u. are just one of a number of grunge-industrial slopover bands that shouldn't be allowed access to the sort of high power tools that allow them to permanently mess with peoples' hearing, as that noise of theirs speaks volumes about their respect for their own ears (so who cares about others, not them) -- (just my opinion, but) i think of them as a self-perpetuating cult industrial accident

george gosset (gegoss), Monday, 27 January 2003 21:26 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I can't think of industrial when referring to HDU.

Earplugs are important at any concert. Ears can be damaged with headphones too, so keep the level reasonable.

How seamlessly they were remixed into gentle tracks, and also the simple beauty, enjoyable at any volume level, of momento mori confirms them as ambient to me.

ambient and wall of sound are certainly not imcompatible as far as my understanding of the concepts go.

Laney, Monday, 27 January 2003 21:32 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

judging a band on their fans is the lamest thing ever

i completely disagree with this and yet i can't quite explain why..

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 27 January 2003 22:46 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

uh HDU lately have been q.different to that GG; & the best HDU gig I've been at was with Dale Cotton on the mixing desk (sound desk? whatever) when it WASN'T Wall-of-Noize - allowing some of the interesting textures/artifacts/details etc into it. however when given free reign YES it is a bit much (they were outclassed by Avotor at a gig@Arc).
but anyway - the records, no? higher++ is my kinda nu-age; i've listened to memento mori almost as much as I've been listening to pure shores lately ("amino"-as-popsong, etc); & fire works from "giant overpasses" onwards is near-flawless ithink.
ps laney : there were about three of us who would dance to them @ arc.
pps : i am not a junky (geez haha jeez).

&re: nz industrial uh I think HDU's moments of "beauty" etc don't fall into the eurotonic whatevah that industrial's moments of beauty do; I'd point more @ skeptics/foetusproductions/headlesschickens for that.

& uh this =>
f.nun is operating a bit differently to the south island based independent it used to be -- it belongs to a big multi-national now -- which seems to have produced a change of emphasis, or was it the change of emphasis that led to the need to up-size ?
=> is a straw man.

Ess Kay (esskay), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 08:09 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i see f/nun then vs. now corporate cultureas paradoxical -- an ancillary observation, possible tautology, but not really ever a serious s/d f/nun in the first place, sorry

looking back at what i rather scathingly wrote about HDU, i think it's my way of addressing that serious pain consistent with their volume -- ok i'm biased or setting up a side complaint here, but since i can't get past the bodily reaction i have to their noise that's rock'n'roll

(oh, why do i have to get the earplugs ? protect myself, ensure that the environment i'm paying for is actually safe for humans ? if earplugs are mandatory at hdu, then there's a band seriousley out of touch with its audience, not listening)

and i haven't experienced the mixes you mention SK, and might eventually get around to their albums, but what volume and conditions should i set ? it would be nice to think they are a good band of course, but this high dependence thing is a serious credibility hike for some it would seem (i think that's their business, although i can see how pain threshold might be something the audience worries about, even if no-one else cares)

george gosset (gegoss), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 13:57 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

re : FN, I think of Flying Nun as product of "dunedin sound" (or alternate descriptor) not the cause; & since that "golden age" we've had rogernomics/ruthanasia; the south is no longer so isolated (nor is the country; + more links with US+Japan+etc), culturally we're more comfortable with a more fluid identity (haha) & that => the nz music scene has changed & that & if anything I think FN's problem was that they were too hidebound to change with it - I mean nz guitar music from 92 onwards was uh not really where anything exciting/"major" was happening. (of course this depends on whether you see FN as its artifacts or what those artifacts at the time represented).

hmmn I always took the "High Dependency Unit" as (either) self-deflating or whatever re : taking their name from Shortland Street; didn't read anymore into it.

lately I've been using hdu as uh background music when reading janet frame etc in bed - at low volume it's ambient/new-age/dreamy/spacey etc; at high volumes it can be (insert-usual-descriptions-of-HDU-here) but that can be said of My Bloody Valentine or perhaps even Merzbow. There's actually a lot of SPACE (not-planetary-sense) in their music - i'd make connections with the uh nz dub consciousness, emptiness of the land, blah blah curnow 30s lit stuff & that - it's not as DENSE as perhaps portrayed. also their drummer is very moonman & interesting, like's he's drumming in zero-G or something. also i have not heard their early stuff.

my earlier comment about HDU not being wall-of-noise was when there were fairly stringent noise control restrictions => hdu's desire for MAX VOLUME are self-defeating sigh)

um & I haven't been to lots of rock gigs & stuff compared to say clubs (ie WHERE'S THE BASS?); & being young & (maybe) resilient the volume thing doesn't really affect me yet.

(uh apologies for incoherence)

Ess Kay (esskay), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 02:19 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The first Ep has TORTURED VOCALS and is hideous. Spec the stupid Radio One magazine compared it to the Gordons' "Future Shock", no WAY Jim.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 10:25 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

1st ep by hdu = absintence acrimony = angsty crap

earplugs = concerts are often loud = i believe i should protect my hearing

Laney, Wednesday, 29 January 2003 23:32 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

judging a band on their fans is the lamest thing ever

i completely disagree with this and yet i can't quite explain why..

although there are frequently associations of people and events when we think of music, and that helps make up our personal likes and dislikes. but if we're going to talk about the music, then that stuff is irrelevant.

ok, this sounds more difficult to back up the more i say anything. but, i could say something like... errr... i think that bob marley made some good records but i can't divorce his music from stoopid stoners so i don't like bob marley records.

Laney, Wednesday, 29 January 2003 23:41 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

well i do have to say that my fandom of Sleater-Kinney was given a shake when i found out that a large portion of their (melbourne) fanbase was macho idiots making a token concession to liking a 'girl band'.. not the band's fault, but.....

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 30 January 2003 00:03 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

haha in auckland they're fan base was disturbing too. stupid punk girls slamdancing and smashing pint glasses on the stage. it hasn't shaken my fandom of s-k, but its def made me critical of "rg"

di smith (lucylurex), Thursday, 30 January 2003 01:24 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

hey george i'm in christchurch!

duane, Thursday, 30 January 2003 01:45 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

duane, isn't dan having a party in omaru ? same saturday night as two good ones in chch, which is a pity, as though these three crowds are all competing for the same people (unlike double booked gigs, where at least you can get out of one of them)

george gosset (gegoss), Thursday, 30 January 2003 10:02 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

oamaru is da bomb.

di smith (lucylurex), Thursday, 30 January 2003 22:08 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
appears they've got a DVD coming out next week chock full of music videos. tracklisting :

01. The Clean - Anything Could Happen
02. Bored Games - Bridesmaid
03. Doublehappys - Needles And Plastic
04. Gordons - Adults And Children
05. Children's Hour - Carolines Dream
06. Verlaines - Death and the Maiden
07. The Great Unwashed - Neck Of The Woods
08. The Chills - Pink Frost
09. Sneaky Feelings - Husband House
10. Look Blue Go Purple - Cactus Cat
11. Bird Nest Roys - Alien
12. The Bats - North By North
13. Skeptics - Agitator
14. Snapper - Buddy
15. Tall Dwarfs - Nothing's Going To Happen
16. Straitjacket Fits - She Speeds
17. Able Tasmans - Hold Me 1
18. The Cakekitchen - Dave The Pimp
19. Headless Chickens - Gaskrankinstation
20. S.P.U.D. - Breakdown Town
21. David Kilgour - You Forget
22. Chris Knox - Not Given Lightly
23. The Renderers - Bigger Than Texas
24. J.P.S. Experience - Precious
25. 3Ds - Hey Seuss
26. Dribbling Darts Of Love - Hey Judith
27. Bailterspace - Splat
28. Bike - Save My Life
29. Garageland - Fingerpops
30. Solid Gold Hell - Bitter Nest
31. Superette - Touch Me
32. Loves Ugly Children - Voodoo Girl
33. Bressa Creeting Cake - Palm Singing
34. The Subliminals - The Crystal Chain
35. Betchadupa - Spill The Light
36. HDU - Schallblute
37. The D4 - Exit To The City
38. The Hasselhoff Experiment - Drag Racer
39. Stephen Malkmus - Death and the Maiden
40. PanAm - Interstate Boy
41. The Mint Chicks - Post No Bills

etc, Monday, 3 May 2004 10:10 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

it would have been nice if they'd left off the last seven tracks and put more bats and tall dwarfs on it (i love the videos to 'made up in blue' and 'turning brown and torn in two' respectively..)

the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 3 May 2004 11:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

they got the wrong subliminals, SF & JPSE & SKEPTICS ("Affco" = sexiest best NZ short film evah?) videos as well. still, the whole no-more-than-one-video-per-artist means that, y'know, OMG the renderers & bressa creeting cake & birds nest roys & the cakekitchen &c!!!

I'd be interested to read a complete videography for FN - I wonder if "Duane Eddy" had a video, &c&c&c.

etc, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 02:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

rage has played stacks of old FN clips in the past, can't remember if i've seen any Clean but i've definitely seen at least 4 Bats videos from up-to-and-including law of things era

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:12 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

flyinf nun is like the worst label in the world now. i used to live for the days when my fnun newsletter would show up in the mailbox. it's cool to see the gordons rocking out in their cardigan sweaters. shayne carter's awful sweater is a treat too.

keith m (keithmcl), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i wish instead of arsing about with reissues (also, where's the Bird-Dog reissue you bastards?!) they could spend a little more time signing better bands, for which Pan Am and the D4 don't qualify

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 03:21 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

anyone know a NZ track which goes "why can't i get you...out of my heaaad" (or possibly hair)? male vocal

zvookster, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 21:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

More Nun videos up at NZ on Screen here: http://www.nzonscreen.com/watch/music-video/flying_nun

Bill E, Friday, 12 March 2010 03:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

So, what's going on with FN? No website, just a Twitter feed that doesn't says a lot but it doesn't make much sense to me.

goldwax, Sunday, 23 May 2010 06:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

huh? web site was up the other day... they put out grayson gilmour and next is 3ds box ?

kumar the bavarian, Sunday, 23 May 2010 06:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUBu4meuO-g

kumar the bavarian, Sunday, 23 May 2010 06:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

i note that bird dog has finally been reissued

poutrock (electricsound), Sunday, 23 May 2010 06:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

liked the verlaines track on stroke comp. is bird dog re-issue on fn? any extras?

kumar the bavarian, Sunday, 23 May 2010 06:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

don't know yet, looks like it hasn't made it to stores as yet...

poutrock (electricsound), Sunday, 23 May 2010 07:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

not on smokecds either.. ah well. just re-reading this thread there are some pretty funny vintage posts from nz'ers... wish duane would come back instead of fucking round on facebook

kumar the bavarian, Sunday, 23 May 2010 07:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

anyone know a NZ track which goes "why can't i get you...out of my heaaad" (or possibly hair)? male vocal

― zvookster, Tuesday, January 26, 2010

from memory it goes something like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JHyNEcj1u0

except with different instruments, melody, lyrics & tempo

zvookster, Monday, 7 February 2011 03:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

New compilation of 3Ds early recordings

It’s called Early Recordings 1989-90 because, well, that’s what it is. It’s a “selection of tracks from the Dunedin band’s formative years.” Along with two of the group’s early EPs, 1990′s Fish Tails and 1991′s Swarthy Songs for Swabs, the compilation includes demos and recently unearthed recordings.

The compilation comes with a 16-page booklet with liner notes written by Bruce Russell (the Dead C) detailing the history of the band.

http://cheeseontoast.co.nz/wp/?p=6366

Bill E, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 20:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Oh my God, I just heard Loves Ugly Children's "Space Suit" for the first time ever on Pandora.

Where the hell can I find more like this

"It's the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Drunk!" (kingfish), Saturday, 15 December 2012 18:29 (six years ago) Permalink

that song is a bit unique in their catalogue (it's pretty special) but there are a few on their first FN lp that are in the ballpark

boner m (electricsound), Saturday, 15 December 2012 23:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Another amazing track from them is "Suck".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ceh4ZK5m6P4

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 16 December 2012 02:13 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, i need more of this. Gotta have more of that sorta Husker/MBV/Dino Jr guitar swirl and noise. Japandroids' "Younger Us" gets is right, too.

Also, Flying Nun doesn't have their shit on iTunes yet, fer some reason.

"It's the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Drunk!" (kingfish), Sunday, 16 December 2012 02:45 (five years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

FLYING NUN TO PARTNER WITH CAPTURED TRACKS ON REISSUE PROGRAM

"Stoked" is the word I believe best describes how we feel about working on the Flying Nun back catalogue this year. Captured Tracks and Flying Nun have partnered up to manufacture and distribute the prestigious New Zealand label's back-catalog. Flying Nun began in 1981 in Christchurch, NZ and quickly established a roster of artists and DiY ethic that would go on to influence indie rock musicians and labels to the present day. Featuring such vanguard artists as The Chills, The Clean, Tall Dwarfs, The Verlaines, The Bats and countless others, the label made a huge impression on US and European underground music despite its geographically isolated locale. Original founder Roger Shepherd bought back the rights to the label from WB in late 2009 which has ultimately led to Brooklyn label Captured Tracks' involvement.

The partnership will release a slew of currently out of print titles, including many of the label's most prominent and most obscure releases. These will range from from their earliest releases through to their early 1990's material. Starting with the 2xLP Toy Love (pre-Tall Dwarfs/Bats) compilation that was recently issued in NZ, future projects include boxed sets, expanded reissues of 12" EP's, 7"s, LP's on all formats as well as posters, shirts and various other items from Flying Nun's deep archives.

"We at Captured Tracks are beyond ecstatic to work with Flying Nun Records for this series of reissues. As a young record collector, I always saw the label as a recommendation of quality and a constant source of inspiration. I would comb the shelves of every record store imaginable to secure anything and everything I could find. When I first heard the news that they'd bought back the rights, this partnership was something that was lingering in the back of my mind. I'm more than pleased that we can have any sort of involvement in revitalizing this amazing back catalog and returning it to record shelves the world over." -Mike Sniper (Captured Tracks Founder)

"We at Flying Nun are super pleased to be setting up shop with Captured Tracks, who have recently been releasing some of the most exciting new music around. We think this brilliantly compliments Flying Nun's 30 years of releasing some of the most interesting bands to come out of the remote south pacific. I can't wait to get my teeth into helping people discover and rediscover some of these records." -Ben Howe (Flying Nun Label Manager)

wump, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:20 (five years ago) Permalink

So is everything getting on iTunes, hopefully, right?

"It's the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Drunk!" (kingfish), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:29 (five years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Did anyone pick up the "Tally Ho" and "Time To Go" compilations? Some stuff I don't have, lots that's overly familiar. What would y'all put on a rarities comp? I mean not just rare for rare's sake but genuinely great, overlooked tracks.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 02:06 (five years ago) Permalink

I saw Time To Go at a shop the other weekend and now I'm kicking myself over not buying it.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 02:07 (five years ago) Permalink

time to go looks cool. i think i have most if not all of tally ho on various other releases. i don't know how much there really is in the way of "great, overlooked" tracks but i always felt jean-paul sartre experience should get more retrospective attention and the vast swathe of uncomped FN 45s needs more love (which the wendy broccoli comp attempted to chip away at a little bit of)

Im am... gobsacked (electricsound), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 02:19 (five years ago) Permalink

time to go is pretty great. this was my fav song on it would love to hear more of this band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEc1awTPPyU

flopson, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 03:39 (five years ago) Permalink

Time To Go is epic. I highly, highly recommend it. Mike Sniper posted about the tentative future plans for the FN reissues on Captured Tracks over at some other message board or something (he starts with referencing a Gordons 3x12" that is for RSD apparently:

Yeah, the RSD thing is just a one-off, it's not all going to be limited edition.
There'll be a Bats singles/unreleased multi-volume set. Snapper have no
extra material and we didn't want to pack out an LP with live cuts, so we thought
this was a good way of reissuing.

Toy Love: The NZ reissue was already doing $100 on eBay and was never properly
distro'ed in the 'States/UK/EU and it was ready, so it was a good first one for us to do.
It's still expensive because the booklet is crazy, it SHOULD be in stores for $25-$28 but
I can't control mark-ups above wholesale. Certain stores will obviously pay more in shipping and the cost will be reflected.

We are debating all kinds of ways to tackle the back-catalog.

It's true, certain bands have agreements with Flying Nun and some don't.
We're not really in the mix with those arrangements, but we're certainly encouraging.

To answer some of your questions, we are doing expanded reissues when the cost to the consumer
of three separate Look Blue Go Purple 12" EP's (an example, this isn't ready just yet, but it will happen) would run them $36 when we can do a 2xLP with extra
studio tracks and try to get it to them for $22-$25. The full art of each 12" will be included when that's the case.

We are definitely doing the "mainstream" acts like Verlaines, Bats, Chills, Clean but we're also doing stuff like Birds Nest Roys, Ballon D'Essai, etc.
It's a really long process and the reason why a lot of the stuff you'll see early on is "common" is because it's ready to release.

The revenue we draw in from those releases will really help do all the obscure stuff that I want to do as much as you.

We will be doing LP boxed sets, but no one will be "forced" to purchase the full boxed set. It'll be more "build your own" so you don't have to drop
$250 to get what you want on vinyl. This is the plan, at least. Especially when tackling the huge Tall Dwarfs/Chris Knox catalog. The man has tons of
tapes of his own recordings and recording other bands (and yes, The Enemy is definitely in the radar.)

Bored Games: Shayne is sitting on amazing unreleased songs he doesn't want to release, but we're planning on doing the 12" EP as is.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 04:30 (five years ago) Permalink

Time To Go : Crazy Good.

Hinklepicker, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 04:40 (five years ago) Permalink

Time To Go is probably the most, uh, well-curated compilation Flying Nun have ever released at any point in their history, to be honest. Big fan of "Russian Rug" &c.

etc, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 05:30 (five years ago) Permalink

Any idea if those Captured Tracks releases will be available digitally?

Also, just ran across an article that said Ben Howe has taken over from Roger Shepard. Anyone know the scoop?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 18:33 (five years ago) Permalink

gotta get time to go!

tylerw, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 18:35 (five years ago) Permalink

Added it to my want list.

Evan, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 18:58 (five years ago) Permalink

Aiieee, that tracklisting looks great

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 19:03 (five years ago) Permalink

The Chills song is especially good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQmy1S-08kw

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 19:06 (five years ago) Permalink

Ben Howe has taken over as 'General Manager' of Flying Nun - operations moved to AKL - sharing space or building with Arch Hill recordings - Roger Shephard still involved with label as 'consultant and shareholder' - whatever that means.

Info here: http://thecorner.co.nz/2012/09/19/changes-on-the-way-for-flying-nun-records/

Anyhow hopefully this means a smoother operation and more music. Sharpie Crows (on F Nun) and Street Chant (On Arch Hill) are pretty great. Popstrangers a bit of a rudux for my tastes but make pretty slick facsimilies of that 90's sound.

Hinklepicker, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 08:20 (five years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

So.... they're not Flying Nun, but I thought this would be the best place to draw attention to the Popstrangers LP on Carpark. Plenty of NZers excited about this release.
Best NZ pop single since the Chills' Heavenly pop hit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQs6rGE_1cc

Given that Popmatters (yeah...) shit themselves with excitement over this, I thought there'd at least be some discussion:

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/review/167655-popstrangers-antipodes/

I say: really really really good.

paulhw, Friday, 12 July 2013 02:08 (five years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Looks like both the Clean's Vehicle and a Bird Nest Roys comp are out this week! Especially glad about the former cos I played my old copy a couple of months back and it skipped all over the place. Great album too!

trippin' on brostep beats (NickB), Friday, 2 August 2013 16:58 (five years ago) Permalink

Vehicle is one of the all-time great strummy guitar albums, up there with Wedding Present and Unrest.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 August 2013 16:59 (five years ago) Permalink

I disagree! I strongly believe it pisses all over those guys

trippin' on brostep beats (NickB), Friday, 2 August 2013 17:03 (five years ago) Permalink

It's truly great...and forthcoming review somewhere soon.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 August 2013 17:11 (five years ago) Permalink

good news - vehicle might be my fave clean release, even moreso than the early stuff. amazing guitar sound.

tylerw, Friday, 2 August 2013 17:12 (five years ago) Permalink

listening to it now, oh man, it is so good. best band.

tylerw, Friday, 2 August 2013 17:30 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh come on, those strummy Wedding Present and Unrest albums are awesome, there's room for everyone here.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 August 2013 18:23 (five years ago) Permalink

pl don't bespoil this thread
w/ the wedding pres

Ward Fowler, Friday, 2 August 2013 18:26 (five years ago) Permalink

(people don't like prime Wedding Present? Bizarro.)

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 August 2013 19:23 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh don't worry, there are plenty of WP fans who love the Clean too.

Personally, I found Vehicle not as compelling as the early stuff and have a real soft spot for Modern Rock!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 2 August 2013 23:29 (five years ago) Permalink

Yep - agree with Gerald M-B. I like Vehicle of course but it does not have the dark, anarchic kind of vibe that early Clean has - would like to see Compilation reissued with this kind of lavish treatment personally.

Hinklepicker, Saturday, 3 August 2013 01:03 (five years ago) Permalink

Isn't the first disc of Anthology a complete set of early Clean? That's my go-to over Compilation.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 3 August 2013 01:41 (five years ago) Permalink

Modern Rock has "Secret Place," right? That's a nice song. "Vehicle" I always thought was where Robert's Bats-y writing started to be just as prominent as Kilgour's writing, imo.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 August 2013 01:42 (five years ago) Permalink

I find Anthology unwieldy - I like the more concise and more coherent nature of Compilation - I think most of the tracks from the earlier volume are on the latter though. Anthology has too many of those goofy song experiments on it for me.

Hinklepicker, Saturday, 3 August 2013 01:57 (five years ago) Permalink

Cosign on preferring Compilation to Anthology ("Art School"!); was a Singles Going Steady kinda comp for lots of Kiwis.

Anyway, new & v.v.v.good on F.Nun is the new Sharpie Crows, though it's more in the line of the Skeptics/Gordons end of the label's history. Also: Skeptics documentary, Sheen of Gold at this year's film festival!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PRHndjg2Fw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX2u7CQSQlU

etc, Monday, 5 August 2013 11:54 (five years ago) Permalink

Skeptics doco looks great. I didn't like that Sharpie Crows 'Spread' tune so much but the new one Bully 4 You is wicked amazingness.

http://www.undertheradar.co.nz/music/1084/Bully-4-U.utr

Also check new Chills - no longer with F Nun I think but always with them anyway.

https://soundcloud.com/#firerecords/the-chills-molten-gold

Promising signs I think - hopefully Martin can get his stuff togethor to actually release a proper album. Everyone else is doing it - why can't he?

Hinklepicker, Monday, 5 August 2013 22:34 (five years ago) Permalink

Hinklepicker square otm here, only non Compilation Anthology track I really love is Platypus, but Art School/Hold Onto the Rail omissions are unforgivable.

Odditties version of Thums Off is p great imo though.

chicken (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 11:12 (five years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I love "Some Fantasy" by DoubleHappys.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 6 November 2014 00:24 (four years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

So obviously not really Flying Nun, but there's no Toy Love specific thread so -- sad news to report about Jane Walker's passing:

https://www.facebook.com/AudioCultureNZ/photos/a.506398366094767/1934325256635397/?type=1&theater

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 October 2018 01:40 (two months ago) Permalink


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