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who else has seen em on their NZ tour?
i saw em in chch, they were killer...dan brady saw em on the w. coast, he said ditto there.

duane, Monday, 6 January 2003 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Seen 'em right here in the US; they're one of the best live punk bands out there.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 6 January 2003 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link

lots of energy... toody, toody has the most gorgeous voice ever

di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 6 January 2003 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I keep meaning to get out and see'em when they're in Boston. I never seem to make it..

brg30 (brg30), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 00:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never seen them live, but I've always found their records pretty unlistenable. They are recorded terribly, and Fred Cole (is that his name?) sounds like a man dying from emphysema.

Kris (aqueduct), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 00:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I was one of the few people to hang around for Dead Moon at All Tomorrow's Parties in England last year. They played to a room that was barely a quarter full, but they were seriously incredible.

Jason J, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 11:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Was really disappointed they did do other gigs whilst over for ATP, as I missed their only other appearence in the UK years & years ago. Luckily got to finally see them in the US a few months back. Great stuff.

Wondering Boy Poet, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I saw at ATP last year too - was intrigued by Albini's write up on them - it made them sound amazingly awful and for some reason the legendary Mission of Burma weren't grabbing me so i went down to check Dead Moon for a few minutes and was blown away.

tigerclawskank, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link

A local band (well, almost, I'm in Salem) that I like to support in theory, for reasons of endurance alone. But the music, I dunno, anyone else find it a little samey? Or is that the point? Maybe they ought to try and do that mono thing live.

Paula G., Tuesday, 7 January 2003 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey, Billy Childish does mostly the same thing over and over again and he still rocks. So yay Dead Moon!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 02:29 (nineteen years ago) link

four years pass...
fred and toody return as pierced arrows! i knew fred couldn't stay out of the game.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 09:03 (fifteen years ago) link

can't wait.
god i love dead moon.

ian, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link


So I'm guessing Loomis was the problem, then? Not to speculate, but maybe dude relapsed?

Manalishi, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link


M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link

dead moon live on(ish)??!! my gosh i'm so happy i feel sick.
never seen them live. and that makes me sad.

damn those mood swings.

AmyCamus, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link


dmr, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link

come to n.y., pierced arrows

I never saw dead moon either

dmr, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link

and to Scandinavia!

the Dirt, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

You missed one of the best live rock bands of all time.

BUT I'm sure Pierced Arrows will be just as good in time. I mean, Fred and Toody? They can do no wrong. There is NO bad Fred Cole record.

Manalishi, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I pray someone can help me with this. What's better...

Live Evil or Hard Wired In Ljubljana?

Reatards Unite, Sunday, 11 May 2008 01:45 (fourteen years ago) link

paging ddb or ian

tehresa, Sunday, 11 May 2008 01:47 (fourteen years ago) link

just get the DVD. i actually haven't heard the live records, sorry!

ian, Sunday, 11 May 2008 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link

The DVD is the shit.

BigLurks, Sunday, 11 May 2008 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

i concur!

tehresa, Sunday, 11 May 2008 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, DVD is really awesome and kind of inspiring shit.

ian, Monday, 12 May 2008 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Both live albums about equally good. Which is to say both GREAT, you can't really go wrong. My favorite, tho, is that 2x10" live thing they split with Napalm Beach. Not 'cuz it's so much better overall (it ain't), but 'cuz the version of "54-40 or Fight" on that is the best damn thing Dead Moon ever did. Gives me chills to this day.

contenderizer, Monday, 12 May 2008 01:05 (fourteen years ago) link

What exactly happened to Andrew Loomis? He really seemed in it 'til the end in that DVD.

RabiesAngentleman, Monday, 12 May 2008 01:18 (fourteen years ago) link

i think there was an incident on tour, likely stemming him his serious alcohol problem? don't really know any details.

ian, Monday, 12 May 2008 02:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Pity, he was so likable.

RabiesAngentleman, Monday, 12 May 2008 13:22 (fourteen years ago) link

the best part of the dvd is where fred cole is doing an interview with the most clueless man ever.

ian, Monday, 12 May 2008 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link

the best part of the DVD is where he forces the tour van to make a detour to a casino so they can play slots all night after EVERY SHOW lol

dmr, Monday, 12 May 2008 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe there is another thread for this but who's heard the Pierced Arrows full-length? as good as DM?

dmr, Monday, 12 May 2008 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Pierced Arrows - the thread

I didn't know they had an album out! cool.

sleeve, Monday, 12 May 2008 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

I googled their website, it looks like they have one 7" and one LP / CD

dmr, Monday, 12 May 2008 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link

the single is great, I have that. totally recommended.

sleeve, Monday, 12 May 2008 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link

no (non-scummy) reason to get the 7" if i get the LP right?

69, Monday, 12 May 2008 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link

no, looks like both tracks are on teh LP.

sleeve, Monday, 12 May 2008 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Do these guys not smoke pot/do any drugs? One of my friends offered them a joint after a show and they declined -- when talking about one of Fred's early guitar players freaking out on acid in the DVD, they quickly say something about "why do you think we're so against dope?" I just always pictured them as the crazy old hard-partying couple.

Reatards Unite, Saturday, 10 January 2009 06:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Then again, there's that hardcore survivor, trial by fire vibe. Kinda goes hand in hand with AlAnon, recovery program, etc. By the time you're fifty-something, anyway.

P.S. Buy the Rats LP on MssssP.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Saturday, 10 January 2009 07:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Is it in print? Where can I get it?

Reatards Unite, Saturday, 10 January 2009 07:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Record stores! Dunno how many copies, but probly few. Vinyl only. First one only (S/T).

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Saturday, 10 January 2009 07:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Not exactly in print, but recent so still available is what I mean. Plus SO DAMN GOOD.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Saturday, 10 January 2009 07:24 (thirteen years ago) link

so it's impossible to be crazy old hard-partying without doing drugs...

willem, Saturday, 10 January 2009 11:14 (thirteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...


ian, Sunday, 20 December 2009 01:41 (twelve years ago) link

eleven months pass...

big up yourself and encounter (admrl), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 03:41 (eleven years ago) link

Being somewhere I don't want to be, alone, no money, no life... yeah, Dead Moon are pretty much the soundtrack to my life these days. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 05:28 (eleven years ago) link

six months pass...


Trip Maker, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

how timely, now I can remind everybody that Mississippi just reissued the first 3 LPs.

sleeve, Thursday, 23 June 2011 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

Fred+Toody FOREVER!

Trip Maker, Thursday, 23 June 2011 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

are those first three a good place to start ? i've missed the boat with these guys.

tylerw, Thursday, 23 June 2011 18:47 (eleven years ago) link


bear, bear, bear, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 01:24 (ten years ago) link

Had no idea those original DM LPs on Tombstone were outta print. They used to be everywhere.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 01:38 (ten years ago) link

yeah sometime in the last five years they went from being $5 Northwest used-bin staples to $40 collector's items

sleeve, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 02:54 (ten years ago) link

watching the doc is one of those things that makes me wanna stand up on top of my furniture with my fists in the air like I CAN DO ANYTHING

― arby's, Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:20 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark

69, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 16:31 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

just your 3-year reminder that dead moon rules

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 September 2014 05:09 (seven years ago) link


difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 25 September 2014 05:38 (seven years ago) link

Fred's had heart problems but is now recovering after an operation btw

StanM, Thursday, 25 September 2014 05:55 (seven years ago) link

StanM, Thursday, 25 September 2014 05:57 (seven years ago) link

And there's reunion tour news too

StanM, Thursday, 25 September 2014 06:01 (seven years ago) link

a few years ago there was a petition seen at like coffee shops and record stores in new orleans that was like BRING PIERCED ARROWS TO NEW ORLEANS, but they had played there pretty recently (in 2009) (and it was awesome). also who was being petitioned? bookers? fred and toody? city hall?

i signed it fwiw, didnt work

adam, Thursday, 25 September 2014 11:20 (seven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

aw man

crime breeze (schlump), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 18:05 (six years ago) link

Yeah best wishes Fred, I'm glad I got see these guys as many times (three or four) as I did, great band.

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 20:08 (six years ago) link

Oh no! I've just gotten into Dead Moon this year, and I saw them live in August--they were so wonderful. Really hope he pulls through.

JRN, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 02:50 (six years ago) link


(picture of Fred and Toody smiling together, taken yesterday after Fred's surgery)

sleeve, Thursday, 10 September 2015 14:46 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

RIP Andrew Loomis

Kibbutzki (Jaap Schip), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 02:19 (six years ago) link

best band best drummer rip

adam, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 02:24 (six years ago) link


RIP Dead Moon

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 03:24 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

man i hate to bump this thread with more bad news but

adam, Friday, 20 October 2017 18:39 (four years ago) link

get better Fred!

sleeve, Friday, 20 October 2017 18:48 (four years ago) link

Oh man, that is terrible. Best wishes for a speedy recovery. They are a tremendous band.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 20 October 2017 19:19 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

RIP Fred Cole

BlackIronPrison, Friday, 10 November 2017 20:35 (four years ago) link


god damn it

sleeve, Friday, 10 November 2017 20:38 (four years ago) link

fuck the world

I'm leaving work to go drink and play Dead Moon records at high volume

sleeve, Friday, 10 November 2017 20:46 (four years ago) link

This is a huge bummer. RIP Fred

Colonel Poo, Friday, 10 November 2017 20:47 (four years ago) link

Legend of American Rock n' Roll.
51 years in the game. Rest well.

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:50 (four years ago) link

RIP - but so many songs about dying/grave/time has come/too far gone/remember me/... , it's very hard to listen now :-(

StanM, Friday, 10 November 2017 21:00 (four years ago) link

Oh no, RIP. I love that band.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 10 November 2017 21:06 (four years ago) link

RIP. this is so sad. i was fortunate enough to share the stage w Pierced Arrows in 2010 and they were the nicest possible people. insane love and respect for these lifers.

i highly recommend the wonderful Dead Moon documentary. it's been years since i've seen it, i should give it a rewatch...

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 11 November 2017 02:09 (four years ago) link

yes, the documentary is excellent, definitely gonna watch it again soon

sleeve, Saturday, 11 November 2017 02:22 (four years ago) link

one thing that really amazed me was how DIY they were. they had built their own house. he was cutting his own records on a lathe. so badass.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 11 November 2017 03:16 (four years ago) link

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 11 November 2017 03:17 (four years ago) link

A post by the Mississippi Records guy who's doing the book (I hope kickstarter won't force them to redo the whole process now the signed edition won't be signed anymore) + someone made a Dead Moon Family Tree mixtape on Pandora (in the comments) that's only for people in the USA :-/

StanM, Saturday, 11 November 2017 13:14 (four years ago) link

Very nice and detailed obit in NY Times.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 11 November 2017 23:10 (four years ago) link

RIP to the author of one of the most perfect songs ever, "Teenagers" by he and Toody's pre-Dead Moon band The Rats:

JRN, Sunday, 12 November 2017 07:42 (four years ago) link

Love that song. Veronica Falls did a pretty good cover of that

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 12 November 2017 14:56 (four years ago) link

Ted Leo closed his set last night in Minneapolis with a storming cover of It's OK.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Sunday, 12 November 2017 15:28 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

3rd & final Rats LP is finally out on Water Wing, looks fantastic!

6 years of work went into remixing and remastering this version - with Fred Cole twisting knobs and obsessing over it's every detail and then Greg Shadoan and Tim Stollenwerk finishing the job. One of Fred Cole's greatest records and impossible to find for many years - at last this LP is available as it was meant to be heard. Play it loud....

First Pressing includes a 40 page booklet and a xerox replica of a Rats show poster!

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 16 May 2019 04:24 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

really great profile/interview of toody, lots of amazing quotes

na (NA), Friday, 11 October 2019 15:14 (two years ago) link

Pulled out Thirteen Off My Hook, amazing to realize I bought it nearly 30 years ago! "I'm still a loner without many friends" (from "Kicked Out Kicked In") jumped out after reading that interview with Toody ("“In a weird way I don’t feel like I’m without him. We were both always loners -- we were just loners together. So now I’m a loner alone.”)
"War Baby" just started, never fails to set me off

willem, Friday, 11 October 2019 17:42 (two years ago) link

was in line for a drink before the Mekons show in Seattle last July and they were playing "Poor Boy" before the show started, me and the guy ahead of me in line spontaneously went into the "pissed off, pissed off, pissed off, it's just the way I am" chorus together and high fived.

sleeve, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 14:05 (two years ago) link

oh and everyone in this thread probably knows already, but the 3rd and final Rats LP has been reissued at last

sleeve, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 14:12 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

"Time has Come Today" cover on Unknown Passage <3 <3 <3

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Monday, 2 December 2019 13:55 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

^ love this

spending some time listening to the rats LP and assorted dead moon stuff today

budo jeru, Monday, 20 June 2022 22:42 (one week ago) link


the coming of prince kajagoogoo (doo rag), Monday, 20 June 2022 23:53 (one week ago) link

Destination X just got reissued on LP!

thinkmanship (sleeve), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 00:08 (one week ago) link

the rats in a desperate red is really excellent.

i have’t heard destination x in a long time

sknybrg, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 00:54 (one week ago) link

My gateway, when I was assigned this Columbus OH preview many years ago, still doing homework:

Pierced Arrows
Thursday @ The Summit
Along with the other suspects forcibly re-named Lollipop Shoppe, Fred Cole conjured “You Must Be a Witch,” a ‘60s garage classic, and even a hit. Such music biz vindication didn’t impress guitarist Fred or his bassist wife Toody, who orbited indie rock’s Dead Moon for 20 years, before Pierced Arrows. Fred’s voice can pierce any sound system (or lack thereof). Both of the Coles project psychedelic soul over and through their fractured feedback, buzzing surveillance, Kelly Halliburton’s flying saucer cymbals, and the marching sway of melodies, always ready for more.

dow, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 01:03 (one week ago) link

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