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I just had to do my fave band since my bro had a go.
GBV: why do NME etc ignore them? They didnt even review 'Isolation Drills'.
Although I think DO The Collapse was in their albums of the year in 1999
My fave album is 'Mag Earwhig'.
GBV Classic Or Dud?

Peter M's Brother, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 05:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Guided By Voices: Classic or Dud?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 05:56 (eighteen years ago) link

'isolation drills' was never released in the uk, so NME never reviewed it. they did a (pretty dreadful) feature on the band in 1999 to tie in with 'do the collapse', and had features back in the 1990s pretty regularly (though everett's pieces on em for melody maker circa vampire on titus/propellor were my favourites).

absolute classic as far as i'm concerned. buy 'alien lanes', then 'under the bushes under the stars', then 'vampire on titus/propellor', then let yourself loose on the various and multitudinous offshoots and eps.

sxxx

stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 12:59 (eighteen years ago) link

can someone please convince of the classic status of isolation drills. i really want to like this album. but could not.

doom-e, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 13:14 (eighteen years ago) link

has that got anything to do with your ultimate gayness?

chk chk chk, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link

yer not a very good troll.

doom-e, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link

i would expect you to rage at my gayness, psychotically, but as it stands, it's not very good. c- (just for showing up and typing).

c'ya.

doom-e, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link

isolation drills is the only GbV album that doesn't seem to have lost something by being 'properly produced'. IMO it features some of Pollard's best songs since B1000.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 22:35 (eighteen years ago) link

All I have is Be THousand, and I like it tons.
SHould I get others? I am interested in Suitcase, should I get it?

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link

i think it was douglas on some other thread that advocated making yr own gbv greatest hits cd. that would be the only way to end up with a classic. they're good though, most of the time

ron (ron), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 01:44 (eighteen years ago) link

"isolation drills is the only GbV album that doesn't seem to have lost something by being 'properly produced'."

agreed. also, bob drops the mystic/fairy tale goobledegook lyrics for once, in favour of some pretty fucken open and brutal lyrics about his marriage breakup. 'glad to see you' is *painfully* honest and to the point.

i love ID.

sxxx

stevie (stevie), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 13:29 (eighteen years ago) link

"My fave album is 'Mag Earwhig'."

It's the only GBV album I have, but it's great fun. I think maybe a couple of songs could have been left on the cutting-room floor, but largely it's quirky garage-pop excellence all the way. "I Am A Tree" is so instantly catchy, it actually could have broken them to a bigger audience, with a little good fortune. I may invest in some more GBV soon...

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 13:44 (eighteen years ago) link

thanks stevie and jim....going to repurchase this, when i get back to canada.....it's on the list.

doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link

A Nairn -- Yes, more. I skipped Suitcase (got the comp Breifcase instead), but i'm sure it has lots of gems.

Others: Alien Lanes, Propeller, Vampire on Titus, Same Place the Fly Got Smashed, King Shit and the Golden Boys (those last two both appear in Box). Also, several in the Fading Captain Series are noteworthy; Speak Kindly of your Volunteer Firemen, Kid Marine, and also the Lexo & the Leapers' EP, Ask Them. ¥

christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Classic. One of my favorites. Such childlike enthusiasm for the transforming powers of music, such a tribute to spontaneous creation. Great song titles too. "Kicker of Elves" made me laugh out loud in the rekkid store.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Sunday, 9 March 2003 02:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, GBV is definitely classic. Not every song Bob Pollard has written/released is equal, but he's written enough brilliant music that the duds in his catalog really don't matter that much.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 9 March 2003 03:08 (eighteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

the brides have hit glass

kamerad, Sunday, 18 April 2010 00:16 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

"Guided By Voices are back together and have recorded a new album, Let's Go Eat the Factory, that will be released on January 1st. It will be the band's first studio output since 2004, and their first to feature the lineup of Bob Pollard, Mitch Mitchell, Tobin Sprout, Kevin Fennell, and Greg Demos in over 15 years. Mojo broke the news."

nostormo, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 23:50 (nine years ago) link

but did they record it on cassette?

calstars, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 01:53 (nine years ago) link

as much as certain GBV songs are well-worn constant favorites....uh...

Sophomore subs are the new Smith lesbians. (the table is the table), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 05:11 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

I was in the right place for the initial run of GbV, but stopped caring long ago, though I've kept up in a half-assed way with like 80% of the new releases. Got "Factory" via Spotify out of curiosity. It's really pretty good. Kind of weird to listen to...sort of like hooking up with your ex-girlfriend from college, except you're both in your 40's now. Makes me think, more than ever, that GbV was not in fact Pollard + Granny on Bongos. I'm surprised to find myself playing this often.

dlp9001, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 03:40 (nine years ago) link

it's not a bad record but it feels very anonymous to me, particularly tobin's contributions. i'd put it slightly ahead of half smiles.. the last boston spaceships record had some much stronger tracks

really dislike 'how i met my mother' and 'fats domino' is their most hookless single

fitzroy institution (electricsound), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 03:44 (nine years ago) link

Ahead of Half Smiles? no no no!

Granted, I've only played it through twice, and that was the NPR stream that went up pre-release, but it left me hollow and almost offended at how disjointed and, frankly, bad it was. Maybe I'll try it again some day, but I just don't want to now.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 03:47 (nine years ago) link

Never trust NPR streams. I've learned that the hard way...

dlp9001, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 03:56 (nine years ago) link

I'm almost afraid to buy the new one, for fear of disappointment. "Fats" was okay. Have like 20 Pollard side project promos from the last couple years that I still haven't found time to play.

Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 2 February 2012 11:56 (nine years ago) link

The new GBV album is surprisingly good, one of the best things Pollard's done in years and more interesting than the last few GBV albums were. If you're looking for an album of big hooky singles you're not going to find it. They're messing around in basements and bedrooms again like they did back in the early days, not trying to be the big rock band. I understand why people are disappointed, especially if what they're looking for is more 'hits', but it's really exceeding my expectations.

erasingclouds, Thursday, 2 February 2012 13:02 (nine years ago) link

I've listened to it three times and I'm not feeling it at all beyond the odd track. It's among their bottom three albums for me.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 2 February 2012 13:03 (nine years ago) link

Love it. Garnered way more plays from me than anything Bob's put out in years (not that I didn't like that stuff either).

Wandering Boy Poet, Thursday, 2 February 2012 13:04 (nine years ago) link

have really come to love this, the more i play it.

dave cool it (stevie), Thursday, 2 February 2012 13:31 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, I really like this one and I kind of feel like a lot of the people that hate this had unreasonable expectations in the first place. No, it isn't Alien Lanes or Bee Thousand, hell even Mag Earwhig, but I do think its interesting and I like it the more I hear it.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:24 (nine years ago) link

unreasonable expectations

What's unreasonable about expecting something more than aimlessness for the most part? Bob still writes a handful of big, anthemic songs every year that he then distributes among his hundred different projects. Unfortunately, he used his most recent batch all up before getting around to making this latest GBV record. I don't mind a little aimless in my GBV, but it's got to be broken up by the BIG songs I can use as trailmarkers.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:27 (nine years ago) link

That wasn't aimed at you, btw, I was just referring to a lot of dismissiveness I've seen online that boils down to, "this sucks, Alien Lanes was so much better". Well, duh.

In terms of your complaints, I think there are a handful of those BIG songs. And I really like the aimlessness, particularly with Toby back in the mix.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:28 (nine years ago) link

Where I'm coming from is this - the first GBV music I heard was the 7"s from the time (Get Out of My Stations, Grand Hour, Fast Japanese Spin Cycle, Clown Prince of the Menthol Trailer) and then Vampire on Titus and then Bee Thousand, which had just come out. In that batch of music there are rock/pop anthems, sure, but overall there's more weird stuff that would probably fit your definition of "aimlessness". What I love about the new album is in spirit it goes back to that era. Plus, it surprises me, like their music originally surprised me - some of those Tobin songs in particular sound nothing like what he usually does, or like anything that's been on a GBV album before.

But I do imagine that if my first encounters with GBV were with the later lineup, more 'arena rock' stuff (which I also love, don't get me wrong), and I was looking for them to go that route (to pick up where GBV left off), I'd be disappointed.

erasingclouds, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:10 (nine years ago) link

Where I'm coming from is this - the first GBV music I heard was the 7"s from the time (Get Out of My Stations, Grand Hour, Fast Japanese Spin Cycle, Clown Prince of the Menthol Trailer) and then Vampire on Titus and then Bee Thousand, which had just come out. In that batch of music there are rock/pop anthems, sure, but overall there's more weird stuff that would probably fit your definition of "aimlessness". What I love about the new album is in spirit it goes back to that era. Plus, it surprises me, like their music originally surprised me - some of those Tobin songs in particular sound nothing like what he usually does, or like anything that's been on a GBV album before.

^^^ absolutely

dave cool it (stevie), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:15 (nine years ago) link

yeah i think i agree. haven't spent *too* much time with the new one, but i like the fact that it isn't just jampacked w/ anthems. gbv, at their core, are a WEIRD band! and this is a weird album that I'm interested in exploring more. not sure if i'd be saying the same if Factory was just a bunch of Baba O'Riley soundalikes or w/e.

tylerw, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:22 (nine years ago) link

"Fats Domino" gets stuck in my head all the time. awesome song.

billstevejim, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:33 (nine years ago) link

I dig the new album and agree it hearkens back to the sound of those '93-'94 eps but I would like to hear some more anthems on Class Clown.

Let It Beard and Mars Classroom and even the Lifeguards album from last year all had much stronger songwriting. In fact, I'm astonished Let It Beard in particular wasn't cited more (or at all) as one of the best rock albums of 2011...

ColinO, Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:14 (nine years ago) link

I still recall playing Bee Thousand for a friend (with very well-informed and eclectic taste) when it came out. His comment was that inevitably the band was going to try to tighten up the songwriting and improve the production, and that they'd never live up to what he was hearing. He was mostly right...

Gotta say that "big anthemic songs" is about the *last* thing that impressed me about GbV the first time around. Personally "Hot Freaks" was the one I loved back in the day. It's really pretty amazing that they/he can still manage to 97% approximate the original sound at this point. It's almost like there'd been a Syd/Floyd reunion in the 80's that wasn't bad.

dlp9001, Friday, 3 February 2012 00:26 (nine years ago) link

the sound of 'factory' + the songwriting of 'let it beard' would have been a total winner

flagsteban postez (electricsound), Friday, 3 February 2012 00:27 (nine years ago) link

I dig the new album and agree it hearkens back to the sound of those '93-'94 eps but I would like to hear some more anthems on Class Clown

i think that'll be the case. when i interviewed the band before xmas, kevin said he was surprised how much leeway to experiment bob had given tobin on factory, and that clown was a much more 'rock' record by comparison.

dave cool it (stevie), Friday, 3 February 2012 07:49 (nine years ago) link

Where I'm coming from is this - the first GBV music I heard was the 7"s from the time (Get Out of My Stations, Grand Hour, Fast Japanese Spin Cycle, Clown Prince of the Menthol Trailer) and then Vampire on Titus and then Bee Thousand, which had just come out. In that batch of music there are rock/pop anthems, sure, but overall there's more weird stuff that would probably fit your definition of "aimlessness". What I love about the new album is in spirit it goes back to that era. Plus, it surprises me, like their music originally surprised me - some of those Tobin songs in particular sound nothing like what he usually does, or like anything that's been on a GBV album before.

this is exactly where i came in, except that i started w/ propeller followed by the singles and then the scat albums. if the new one (which i haven't heard) is anywhere near that good, i'll be in heaven. but those albums and singles were packed with anthems, right? "weed king", "mesh gear fox", "my impression now", "shocker in gloomtown", "wished i was a giant", i mean cmon...

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 08:04 (nine years ago) link

nine months pass...

"bears for lunch" thoughts? at the moment i'm liking it as much as class clown (and both way way more than factory)

bill cosby synclavier samples (electricsound), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 21:46 (eight years ago) link

bob's songwriting is holding up really well though i'm not loving tobin's stuff on the reunion records

bill cosby synclavier samples (electricsound), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 21:46 (eight years ago) link

obviously: I want to believe

That said I have enjoyed the first 8 tracks so far. First Tobin joint a joy.

calstars, Thursday, 15 November 2012 17:15 (eight years ago) link

I like Bears a lot and I think the three reunion records are equally good but not great. All 5 Boston Spaceships records are superior.

ColinO, Thursday, 15 November 2012 18:39 (eight years ago) link

I've only heard White Flag from the latest batch of material, but it's one of the best things to come out of these new(ish) sessions imo.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 15 November 2012 18:46 (eight years ago) link

Listening to The Bears for Lunch right now and it is hands down the best of the three reunion albums so far. Maybe the guys just had to fall back into a comfortable groove or something, but this is what I was hoping for initially.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 16 November 2012 16:25 (eight years ago) link

Number of GBV songs about aircraft has to be way greater than 30 at this point.

calstars, Friday, 16 November 2012 16:35 (eight years ago) link

I'm gonna have to listen to the new one a few more times, but so far I'm not really feeling it. Loved Class Clown Spots a UFO, though; so far I'd say the new one is more consistently good than Let's Go Eat the Factory but the highs on Factory are better than anything on here. Just my initial impression, though.

Also, really really disappointed with pretty much all of the Tobin songs on all three of these.

xanthanguar (cwkiii), Friday, 16 November 2012 16:55 (eight years ago) link

Yeah I think Tobin is being spread too thin. His songs on Bears sound like they belong on another record, they just don't sound like GBV songs. Also, his Forever Until It Breaks really dragged down the first side of Class Clown...

ColinO, Friday, 16 November 2012 17:27 (eight years ago) link

I made this one last year (two albums ago now):

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1idxGsnYtzSHZY2ipxQSdP

The idea was to make kind of a Human Amusements vol. 2, so there are a few songs from Half Smiles of the Decomposed on here since that album wasn't covered on Human Amusements.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 21:23 (two months ago) link

Awesome! Thanks y’all.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 21:39 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

ISOLATION DRILLS came out 20 years ago this month

might prefer DO THE COLLAPSE for GBV Is Produced but 'the enemy' and 'pivotal film' (among others) are undeniable

mookieproof, Monday, 19 April 2021 01:57 (four weeks ago) link

xp electric sound of jim's playlist of worthy reunited GBV was this as of 2013, i.e. two dozen albums ago

Guided by Voices - Flunky Minnows (2:11)
Guided by Voices - Class Clown Spots a UFO (3:17)
Guided by Voices - Everywhere is Miles From Everywhere (3:05)
Guided by Voices - Keep It in Motion (2:06)
Guided by Voices - The Challenge is Much More (1:48)
Guided by Voices - You Can Fly Anything Right (1:54)
Guided by Voices - King Arthur the Red (2:14)
Guided by Voices - Finger Gang (1:50)
Guided by Voices - The Unsinkable Fats Domino (1:53)
Guided by Voices - Be Impeccable (2:56)
Guided by Voices - Waving at Airplanes (3:13)
Guided by Voices - Jon the Croc (2:32)
Guided by Voices - Roll of the Dice, Kick in the Head (0:46)
Guided by Voices - W/ Glass in Foot (2:20)
Guided by Voices - Skin to Skin Combat (3:42)
Guided by Voices - No Transmission (2:18)
Guided by Voices - Billy Wire (2:03)
Guided by Voices - Hangover Child (2:57)
Guided by Voices - White Flag (2:14)
Guided by Voices - Trash Can Full of Nails (3:30)
Guided by Voices - Xeno Pariah (2:03)
Guided by Voices - Smoggy Boy (0:34)
Guided by Voices - Chain to the Moon (0:59)
Guided by Voices - Have a Jug (1:09)
Guided by Voices - Chocolate Boy (1:31)
Guided by Voices - Islands (She Talks in Rainbows) (2:16)
Guided by Voices - Imperial Racehorsing (2:54)
Guided by Voices - Waking Up the Stars (2:13)

mookieproof, Monday, 19 April 2021 01:57 (four weeks ago) link

Isolation Drills is mostly quite good, but, yes, a notch below Do the Collapse; my standout pick would be "Fine to See You".

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 19 April 2021 02:10 (four weeks ago) link

isolation drills is one of my favs

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 April 2021 02:15 (four weeks ago) link

grotesque and arrogant
perfect for the experts

mookieproof, Monday, 19 April 2021 02:19 (four weeks ago) link

I think the complaints of "overproduction" on those two TVT records were over-emphasized, it's not as the songs themselves were crying out for out-of-tune guitars or hissy overdubs.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 19 April 2021 02:24 (four weeks ago) link

"Isolation Drills" is miles better than "Do the Collapse". Too much Gillard on the latter.

Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Monday, 19 April 2021 09:16 (four weeks ago) link

"brides have hit glass" is a top 10 GBV tune for me

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Monday, 19 April 2021 12:20 (four weeks ago) link

Count me in the Isolation Drills>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Do the Collapse camp. Isolation Drills is probably top 5 GbV for me.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 11:57 (three weeks ago) link

Although, I saw them on the pre-Isolation Drills tour where they opened the set with a good chunk of the yet-to-be-released record, and the first song they played was "Run Wild", and I will never forgive them for not making that the opening track of the record.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 11:58 (three weeks ago) link

I saw them on the Universal Truths tour, my first time seeing them (I was 17), and they were still performing a lot from Isolation Drills. It was my first GBV record, I think, so I have some deep affection for it.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 12:13 (three weeks ago) link

Love Isolation Drills, but I'm a sucker for an album where an artist's "real" life bleeds legibly into their art

Fine ham abounds, mom (stevie), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 12:36 (three weeks ago) link

I saw them in 2000 where they played "Glad Girls" twice, Pollard saying, "this is the song that'll make us as big as Radiohead!"
One of the things I like about Do the Collapse is the production filigrees help it stand out in a catalogue where a lot of songs sound a lot like a lot of other songs.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 12:41 (three weeks ago) link

Also, bonus points to Elliot Smith for the most superfluous guest appearance of all time.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 12:47 (three weeks ago) link

It's a nice organ part!

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 12:50 (three weeks ago) link

Mitchell > Gillard

calstars, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 13:18 (three weeks ago) link

Count me in the Isolation Drills>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Do the Collapse camp. Isolation Drills is probably top 5 GbV for me.

^^^This. Isolation Drills production served the songs, but Do the Collapse seemed that it just added a couple keyboard presets to some of the songs.

i bought biden some thin mints with my stimmy (PBKR), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 13:50 (three weeks ago) link

Isolation Drills was my favorite those late-period (pre-reunion) albums for years, but the last couple times I listened to it it felt kind of monotonous in a way the others aren't. I think it's a combination of the production and the songs themselves. Still don't love the production on Do the Collapse, but I think the songs themselves are generally more interesting. "Bride Have Hit Glass" is all-time though, of course.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 14:50 (three weeks ago) link

On Isolation Drills, a lot of the expensive production seems to consist of "let's overdub the same rhythm guitar part eight times", which contributes to a monotonous sound.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 14:59 (three weeks ago) link

To me that's preferable to eight overdubs of Doug Gillard running through his favourite licks.

Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 15:05 (three weeks ago) link

Which Do the Collapse songs do you feel have this particular problem?

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 15:07 (three weeks ago) link

I think he overplays throughout the entire album basically. I'm sure that's more down to Ric Ocasek thinking, "Oh this guy can actually play, I should use him wherever possible".

Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 15:10 (three weeks ago) link

Poor man's Ohio indie The Who < collection of basement anthems bookended by weirdo lo-fi cut and paste tape experiments.

Evan, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 15:10 (three weeks ago) link

i like Do the Collapse way better than Isolation Drills personally.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 15:12 (three weeks ago) link

Poor man's Ohio indie The Who < collection of basement anthems bookended by weirdo lo-fi cut and paste tape experiments.

I mean I love a lot of the Gillard era stuff but I took my old VOT/Prop CD with me driving up to in-laws at the weekend, and was just astonished again at how brilliant those albums are, how unique and constantly inspired. Felt like I was transported back to hearing them for the first time as a teen again.

Fine ham abounds, mom (stevie), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 15:55 (three weeks ago) link

“And oh, mesh gear fox”

calstars, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:59 (three weeks ago) link

There’s just no comparing pre and post 96. Original stuff shits all over gillards robotic playing and mainstream production. Same planet, different worlds.

calstars, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 19:00 (three weeks ago) link

teenage fbi is all time, chasing heather crazy is good

brimstead, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 19:01 (three weeks ago) link

never really listened to those albums though

never listened to mag earwig either

brimstead, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 19:01 (three weeks ago) link

New album Earth Man Blues can be listened to here: https://www.grammy.com/grammys/news/2021-guided-by-voices-earth-man-blues-premiere-remote-recording

First impression: this could end up being my favorite post-reunion album? I don't know, I really loved Surrender Your Poppy Field. That album felt kind of like a musical to me, which is something Bob's explicitly aiming for with this one. It also kind of gives me Mag Earwhig vibes, probably just because I always thought of that one as a loose concept album about growing up in Dayton, and that's supposedly the concept here.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:47 (two weeks ago) link

I've heard only good things about this record so far.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Thursday, 29 April 2021 16:32 (two weeks ago) link

xp As someone whose favorite post-reunion record is by far Surrender Your Poppy Field, I am very excited to read that.

cwkiii, Thursday, 29 April 2021 23:27 (two weeks ago) link

OK yeah, after one listen, this is definitely top tier for this lineup. Much better than the last two records.

cwkiii, Friday, 30 April 2021 12:28 (two weeks ago) link

oooooh this one sounds genuinely different. I can't help but wonder if Pollard heard the Heidecker bit and decided to mix it up lol

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Friday, 30 April 2021 12:41 (two weeks ago) link

I genuinely wondered that

PaulTMA, Friday, 30 April 2021 15:50 (two weeks ago) link

Hmm I wasn’t too enthused by it. I had the same reaction I’ve had to most of the recent stuff—excited for the first few tracks but it starts to become tedious as it goes. It’s just... more.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 30 April 2021 15:54 (two weeks ago) link

Needmore records was their early “label” if I recall

calstars, Friday, 30 April 2021 15:56 (two weeks ago) link

I think it was their/his publisher, as in Needmore Songs. Named after a street in Dayton.

Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Friday, 30 April 2021 16:10 (two weeks ago) link

Earth Man Blues does sound different, kind of a patchwork prog thing going on, probably due to the quarantine recording process covered in the grammy article linked above, but I wouldn't say that the songs are necessarily better than ones on the albums leading up to it. I'm not buying the hype in the Rolling Stone review. But it might grow on me after repeated listens and uncovering the "story" that supposedly ties these songs together. I googled John H. Morrison wondering why he was called out as the album presenter on the cover and it is the name of an elementary school in Bob's neighborhood so I feel like that is a big clue in the unifying concept. I'm just not sure how much time I want to put into searching for the payoff of a record that didn't really grab me on the first listen.

BrianB, Friday, 30 April 2021 16:57 (two weeks ago) link

I wasn't struck by any conceptual stuff, but I did notice the lyrics and song structures seemed more immediately accessible than a lot of recent-ish Pollard stuff I've heard.

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Friday, 30 April 2021 17:10 (two weeks ago) link

Jen from the IT to thread:@I know every song by Guided By Voices. I shouldn'teven knowWHO THEY ARE#

Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 30 April 2021 17:25 (two weeks ago) link

I'd love to be able to put my finger on what it is about these recent albums that make them so polarizing...like, I've seen a lot of people going nuts for Styles We Paid For, which I've listened to probably 4-5 times and it does absolutely nothing for me. Similarly, it seemed like Space Gun was a consensus favorite and I didn't care for it at all. On the other hand, I think Surrender Your Poppy Field is the best one since Isolation Drills, and I'm in the middle of my second listen to the new one right now and I think it's really, really good.

cwkiii, Friday, 30 April 2021 17:36 (two weeks ago) link

I can’t listen to anything post Under the Bushes

calstars, Friday, 30 April 2021 18:38 (two weeks ago) link

I am sorta the same. I like space gun though.

brimstead, Friday, 30 April 2021 19:03 (two weeks ago) link

I kind of liked some of the ones around when Ric Ocasek produced that one but otherwise just can’t keep up sorry

A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 April 2021 20:39 (two weeks ago) link

For whatever reason I was really into Earthquake Glue, but otherwise the only post Under the Bushes album that is special to me is Mag Earwhig! I guess cause it's so close to the golden era, still has a good amount of weirdo charm. Not that I don't enjoy any of the rest of the post 96 stuff at all but my brain categorizes it as a different band entirely. Tobin Sprout element is pretty critical to me.

Evan, Friday, 30 April 2021 21:06 (two weeks ago) link

Isolation Drills was the last great one for me. I am kind of enjoying this new one.

bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Thursday, 6 May 2021 00:14 (one week ago) link

Isolation Drills was my favorite after the early run. Still haven't listened to this new one yet.

A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 6 May 2021 03:47 (one week ago) link


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