Come On Let's POLL - ILM Artist Poll #114 - BROADCAST (Polling and Lobbying Thread)

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All material released by Broadcast and alumni projects is eligible. Including remix work and releases by the likes of Roj, Seeland, Hintermass and Children of Alice.

Camaradarie At Arm's Length and I will be your hosts.

Ballots addressing the following matters are invited.

(1) FAVOURITE TRACKS - up to 40, ranked or unranked.

(2) FAVOURITE LPs and EPs - up to 10 commercially released titles, ranked. Several releases blur the line between LP and EP, and a significant portion of Broadcast's output came on short releases, so let's open it up to any of those releases four or more tracks in length.

In both ballot categories, we propose user-defined weightings, inspired by clemenza's recent example. Each ballot entry earns you 20 points, to be allocated however you see fit, up to a maximum of 40 points for first place.

If, for example, your tracks ballot is 40 entries long you get 800 points to play with. In section (2) you have a maximum of 200 points. If you're not fussed about precise weightings, we'll apply default values as provisionally outlined here: https://pastebin.com/raw/Q1RWHkpV

Submit ballots to vaticanroulette AT gmail DOT com

Provisional deadline: 11:59pm, Friday, 20th May 2022. (In that very last timezone beyond Alaska.)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 24 April 2022 12:34 (four weeks ago) link

Here's a list of tracks, with audio links for some of the less readily available instances. Definitely point out errors and omissions:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQaJIbXurbBtDLiAilDfa0GC374s4VJr9SbIez4ZBwAEQAujNovU4ncHCyLTpiRw-cvh1GKZzW4Q3rH/pubhtml

The playlist I posted in the other thread laid out many of the more obvious contenders:

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4HSZmkHJvR6JHrDiki9M6E

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ELm4Y-S4XQscKrxcUJdtt18tKUKyNjMR0apLpypNMoI/edit?usp=sharing

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 24 April 2022 12:38 (four weeks ago) link

Er, the final link is redundant. Not sure how that snuck in!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 24 April 2022 12:40 (four weeks ago) link

Excited for this and spending the next few weeks revising to get my list ready.

kitchen person, Sunday, 24 April 2022 13:32 (four weeks ago) link

same

assert (MatthewK), Sunday, 24 April 2022 13:51 (four weeks ago) link

same!

piscesx, Sunday, 24 April 2022 14:08 (four weeks ago) link

I'd never really seen a filmed interview before recent weeks. Could Sean Hughes have made this any more awkward?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTdPbY17hcc

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 24 April 2022 22:34 (four weeks ago) link

I mean, I can already see myself getting annoyed when 'Phantom' and 'Ritual / Looking In' don't make it.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, August 22, 2019

They're both firmly on my shortlist. Let's expand the rollout out to #127, or whatever, if that's what it takes!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 24 April 2022 23:11 (four weeks ago) link

(2) FAVOURITE LPs and EPs - up to 10 commercially released titles, ranked. Several releases blur the line between LP and EP, and a significant portion of Broadcast's output came on short releases, so let's open it up to any of those releases four or more tracks in length.

Comps are treated the same as the releases they compile, then? (Work and Non-Work, Future Crayon, Microtronics)

Looking forward to this -- it'll help me learn the names of my favorite Broadcast songs!

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Monday, 25 April 2022 02:51 (three weeks ago) link

That's one thing I hadn't entirely resolved. I guess it would cleaner if we voted for Extended Play 2 or Microtronics 01 (etc) as separate entities, ignoring the comps, but I'm happy to be persuaded otherwise. What do people prefer?

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 25 April 2022 03:28 (three weeks ago) link

One bonus calculation we did at the end of one poll was ranking every release by the sum of their constituent track scores. Part of me is inclined to leave compilations unranked until something like that.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 25 April 2022 03:45 (three weeks ago) link

Hello!

I consider Work & Non Work to be a canon album, it was presented as their debut at the time, so would suggest that the compilations are in there with the other LPs/EPs. But there maybe should be a rule about whether we combine Microtronics or not.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 25 April 2022 06:02 (three weeks ago) link

Ha! Nice alias.

That sounds reasonable. The two Microtronics are so plainly linked thematically that that feels like perhaps the least contentious case to me! I also get how Work & Non-Work served as a cohesive Broadcast-in-'96 statenent.

Future Crayon seems messier. The likes of EP1, EP2, and Pendulum are 20-ish minutes long and the latter came several years later. Before that compilation arrived one wouldn't necessary group all that stuff together. On the other hand, arguing for the exclusion of one compilation out of three seems kinda bonkers!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 25 April 2022 07:24 (three weeks ago) link

I think people will have to decide for themselves which to go for with Future Crayon, if they can say whether they prefer to vote as LP or EPs on here then we can probably come to some sort of consensus. (I am not fussed either way)

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 25 April 2022 07:51 (three weeks ago) link

I'd be reluctant to omit Future Crayon which is such a massive gorgeous slab - the constituent EPs are pretty much all perfectly-formed items but but suspect they'll get a bit lost in the voting next to the 'main' albums.

WANW includes the four tracks from the Book Lovers EP - this EP was where I got on the Broadcast bus but it wouldn't occur to me to rank it separately from WANW now.

technopolis, Monday, 25 April 2022 08:21 (three weeks ago) link

future crayon had non-single trcks on it, whereas WNW didn't

"Hammer Without A Master" originally released on Wap100 We Are Reasonable People (1998) WAP100CD

"DDL" originally released on All Tomorrow's Parties 01 (2001) ATPR CD1

(not that anybody had the very early singles from WNW)

koogs, Monday, 25 April 2022 09:09 (three weeks ago) link

I only really know W&NW & TFC and not the individual component releases. For anyone like me, it would feel a little perverse to decompose them and then work out where I'd rank the EPs.

woof, Monday, 25 April 2022 09:27 (three weeks ago) link

I think a consensus is emerging. :)

XP: Wasn't the recording of "Lights Out" on W&NW a bit like those tracks though? From an NME comp rather than a single? (I've never been 100% sure whether that was the same version tbh.)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 25 April 2022 09:33 (three weeks ago) link

https://www.allmusic.com/album/work-and-non-work-mw0000028624

says it was all previous singles. "but since most of it appeared elsewhere within the previous six months and not a single second of previously unavailable material is included, it's not worth much to fans of any duration."

koogs, Monday, 25 April 2022 09:43 (three weeks ago) link

(ignoring the point that the first two singles were largely overlooked and were not available on CD)

koogs, Monday, 25 April 2022 09:48 (three weeks ago) link

not that anybody had the very early singles from WNW

Well it's funny you say that, as I was going to start a gradual two-week daily run-through of favourites with this fairly dull anecdote.

In early 1996 I was in the habit of buying a few 7" singles every week from Magpie Records in Worcester, sometimes from bands I'd heard on the radio, sometimes I just liked the cover, as I did with this one:

https://i.imgur.com/hCEoEwX.jpg

I liked 'Living Room' fine, but 'Phantom' just changed everything. Never heard anything like it before or since, that clockwork rhythm, it sounded like the 'fairground' demo tracks on my uncle's Hammond(?) organ, but with the Theremin(?) making it sound like it was possessed by mournful spirits. The portal for me not just to Broadcast but to avant-garde music.

Here it is - Phantom

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 25 April 2022 09:49 (three weeks ago) link

"Lights Out" was on the NME's C96 CD, I had to send away a cheque to get it, lots of odd stuff on there.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 25 April 2022 09:51 (three weeks ago) link

yeah, i see that now. that page i linked to and discogs just ignore track 9 not being on the singles completely.

first two singles were on Duophonic and Wurlitzer Jukebox so i'm not quite sure why i overlooked them, but i did. first i heard was booklovers and by then the first two singles were already on the rarities wall at Sister Ray for 10x what they originally cost.

koogs, Monday, 25 April 2022 10:15 (three weeks ago) link

I remember a live session on Mark & Lard just before the release of The Booklovers, but doesn't seem to appear on the Maida Vale CD, I think I probably taped it, will have a look for it.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 25 April 2022 10:28 (three weeks ago) link

There was an instantly-memorable live version of Come On Let's Go which was broadcast on Radio 1 at some point between late-96 and spring 2000 - poss as part of a set they did for R1 Sound City in early 98?

I remembered COLG from the 97 Evening Session, primarily because it seemed to be the most Book Lovers-esque of their new tracks (i.e. the only one not in 3/4 time) and this new live version felt much springier and (incrementally) faster than the prev version. When it finally got a release on TNMBP in 2000 I was kind of surprised that it wasn't more uptempo in final studio form.

But now it is 20+ years later and I wonder to what extent I've invented this memory. I may have been craving a more buoyant COLG for almost 25 years, bloody hell.

technopolis, Monday, 25 April 2022 10:50 (three weeks ago) link

Further investigation indicates that it was Oct 97 rather early 98 - as evidenced by the NME cassette that had 'Misc' on it. 90 seconds of new Broadcast material was basically all we were getting between 97 and 99.

technopolis, Monday, 25 April 2022 11:31 (three weeks ago) link

Why isn't "Misc" on Future Crayon anyway? Or the second section of "Where Youth & Laughter Go"?

I initially thought I'd misread the Maida Vale Sessions sleevenotes. "Look Outside" and "COLG" had been revealed pretty much fully-formed a full three years before I heard them on TNMBP? I should have had better UK intel in the '90s!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 25 April 2022 12:22 (three weeks ago) link

I saw them play at the Phoenix Festival in July 1997, quite likely they played some of the tracks from TNMBP but no set list online and can't remember any of the set.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 25 April 2022 12:30 (three weeks ago) link

I think Misc isn't on The Future Crayon because it isn't very good, ymmv etc.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 25 April 2022 12:31 (three weeks ago) link

Haha. It's a great soundtrack to this footage, at the very least.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 25 April 2022 13:03 (three weeks ago) link

"make my sleep his song" is something wonderful

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 05:51 (three weeks ago) link

Nag! Nag! Nag! at 2:03 25 Apr 22
Haha. It's a great soundtrack to this footage, at the very least.
It really is - there are loads of excellent fan-made / edited videos on YT in addition to the two(?) the band made, going to be able to put together a very nice yt playlist.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 08:18 (three weeks ago) link

There's another channel similar to that one which was attempting to upload a video for every Broadcast track although the last time I looked all the uploads had been blocked by overly aggressive copyright claimers (the same purge that took all Stereolab's videos down for ages). Must've been reinstated at some point though as they're back now.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3D767DF83686F484

"Spaghetti" Thompson (Pheeel), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 08:52 (three weeks ago) link

Love how even some of the most amorphous Witch Cults segments made it into that batch. :)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 10:45 (three weeks ago) link

Forgot to post something today, so here's an early track from the Maida Vale sessions CD, just an astonishing bit of music to throw away, maybe they thought it was a bit too 'Mysterions' but I think it's much better than that - Forget Every Time

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 21:30 (three weeks ago) link

Yes! Seeing as the BBC stuff (plus most of the remixes you pointed out) was my big weird blind spot, I've only been acquainted with it for maybe 6 weeks. But it almost instantly went onto my shortlist.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 23:01 (three weeks ago) link

I hope the post-Witch Cults Ghost Box single won't go overlooked. Not least Inside Out. The Focus Group helps ensure it's agreeably incoherent lol. A fine smeary, quasi-motorik mess imho.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 00:13 (three weeks ago) link

*bump*

Randomly selected track: Minim

(Well, I used Spotify to select it -- probably not truly random.)

Also, just in case it wasn't clear: there doesn't seem much appetite for excluding compilations from the albums ballot, so go for it!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 28 April 2022 00:31 (three weeks ago) link

gonna get a ballot together for this, but need to do some listening

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 April 2022 02:19 (three weeks ago) link

Will Unchanging Window/Chord Simple votes get folded in with Unchanging Window votes?

woof, Thursday, 28 April 2022 11:26 (three weeks ago) link

I was just thinking about this! I'd say that's probably the most sensible way to go. Might even go so far as putting "Chord Simple" votes in the same basket, should there being any?!?

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 28 April 2022 12:51 (three weeks ago) link

Makes sense but I wouldn't throw in Chord Simple - I think its voters will be voting for it deliberately separately.

woof, Thursday, 28 April 2022 14:18 (three weeks ago) link

Probably true. All three variants are certainly retaining distinct identities in my records, for counting purposes. I finalised my own ballot earlier and gave points to one of them! It's more a question of presentation at rollout time, I think.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 28 April 2022 14:53 (three weeks ago) link

Though that leaves the option open for voting for all three, I guess. Perhaps unlikely, but wouldn't necessarily want to preclude votes for "UW" and "CS" on the same ballot, at least. Any thoughts on this CaAL?

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 28 April 2022 22:33 (three weeks ago) link

Anyway, I certainly think people should vote for the combined version just because it's purty. I'm pretty sure it didn't even register that "Chord Simple" had been an elaboration on a section of "UW" until they merged them, and then 22-years-ago me was like Ross here for a while:

The version of "Unchanging Window (Chord Simple)" from EP2 is probably my favourite Broadcast track ever.
― Ross, Tuesday, December 6, 2016

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 28 April 2022 23:08 (three weeks ago) link

Just thinking about how each track on The Book Lovers EP had another unrelated track as a coda, a bit like a precursor to Microtronics, think my favourite is the one at the end of Message From Home.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 30 April 2022 21:46 (three weeks ago) link

artisan and blackwing. i edited them out into separate tracks on my copy, but not sure where i got the names.

koogs, Saturday, 30 April 2022 23:38 (three weeks ago) link

they are mentioned in discogs and take their names from the recording studios they were recorded in

koogs, Saturday, 30 April 2022 23:44 (three weeks ago) link

Vaguely related: I dig this take on one of their other bonus instrumental interludes, and their instrumental side more broadly.

https://thevinylfactory.com/features/beat-bandit-10-slept-on-psych-breaks-that-will-bend-your-mind/

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 1 May 2022 00:01 (three weeks ago) link

I was only aware of a couple of these!

https://www.whosampled.com/Broadcast/sampled/

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 1 May 2022 00:18 (three weeks ago) link

Ha wow the scene with Rob Lowe is missing from the US version??

piscesx, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 13:48 (five days ago) link

I consider Broadcast to be one of my favorite bands, but wow, I'm having a tough time getting to 40 tracks. I clearly gravitate toward the more catchy tunes, not sure if I have the fortitude to decide which Microtonics entry is the best.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 15:04 (five days ago) link

At last standing 66 tracks had two or more votes, probably up to 70 with the latest update. Maybe should make a playlist of these to help people who don't want to listen to the whole discography. But also you can submit less than 40 if you like, no shame in that (as long as you include Phantom and Ritual/Looking In!)

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 15:27 (five days ago) link

"Living Room" was almost certainly the first thing I heard too, on a program devoted to new UK releases. "Sixties-influenced, a bit like St Etienne" the announcer said. (That might have been a halfway helpful comparison at that time? Can imagine "Living Room" in particular airing back to back with "You're in a Bad Way" or whatever.)

― Nag! Nag! Nag!

I seem to remember Bob Stanley calling Broadcast his favourite group at one point.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 16:10 (five days ago) link

Chord Simple just came on & vaguely regretting not voting for it separately - I'm not a good music-describer so I'll just say pretty & I love the drums.

I just submitted my ballot. Got in fairly rough order and decided just to not fuss much more beyond that. The result - "Chord Simple" was ranked 41.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 16:14 (five days ago) link

Yeah, no real minimum ballot length. Feel free to do weird things with your points too, if that makes it any easier. You could have a 20-way tie for 21st place if you really wanted. Or zany tiered arrangements.

eg.
40 tracks x 20 points = 800 total points
#1-#20: 700 points distributed distributed across the top 20
#21-#40: 5 points each

XP: Just saw your email pgwp! I should be asleep so I'll look forward to data entry in a few hours!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 16:34 (five days ago) link

Superb 1998 South bank show featured on Gid Coe's 6 music show last night skip to 2:17 for the Broadcast but stick around for Coe's avuncular charm and excellent musical choices https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00175wr

Out of curiosity have people generally be including the eps in their releases list? I wanted to but it unspooled my mind....

cw, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 17:00 (five days ago) link

I treated Work and Non-Work as an album but the other EPs, I treated as separate releases.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 17:19 (five days ago) link

Same. But I also voted for The Book Lovers EP. Those four tracks are worth voting for twice.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 17:26 (five days ago) link

I seem to remember Bob Stanley calling Broadcast his favourite group at one point.

Yes, he said in his obituary for Trish Keenan that "Broadcast, hands down, were my favourite group of the last fifteen years".

https://www.caughtbytheriver.net/2011/01/trish-keenan-remembered-by-bob-stanley/

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 20:28 (five days ago) link

Looks I should have seen The White Bus. Accidentals is even eerier set to excerpts from (largely) that.

The unnamed "instrumental" from that BBC thing is particularly interesting. I really don't think I've heard that sort of guitar from them anywhere else.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 23:02 (five days ago) link

^ Er, "Looks LIKE"

89 different tracks have now appeared on ballots. As CaAL said, just on 70 have been seconded/thirded/etc. But tracks in, say, the top 50 overwhelmingly have 7+ votes now.

We're still aiming for votes being finalised by the time Friday is over for everyone on earth. We have a federal parliamentary poll closing at almost exactly that same instant here, I just realised, but this here poll is significantly more important.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 23:45 (five days ago) link

*bump*

Some 72 hours left to vote if you wish to do so.

https://time.is/Anywhere_on_Earth

Official bump soundtrack: O How I Miss You

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 13:19 (four days ago) link

can we submit mixed ballots? i can def piece together a ranked list of 10-15 songs but idk if i will be able to rank all 40

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 15:15 (four days ago) link

i have 40 songs picked, and my process now is listening, going "wow i love this" and moving the song to the top of my list. repeat process 40 times.

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 15:24 (four days ago) link

Mixed is fine. You can do pretty much whatever you want in terms of waitings (to a maximum of 40 points) and ballot length (up to 40 items) OR we'll just apply generic values from 40 down to 5 as outlined at the top.

Just start with 20 points x No. of items. (eg. 800 points for 40 items.) And divide up the total however you see fit.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 15:57 (four days ago) link

Less than 72 hours… Probably not the best time to only *start* my re-listening. Dear me, forgot just how much music they made. In my head it was, like, 3 records. How have I got a pile of 10 to work through?

Jeff W, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:17 (four days ago) link

You can probably skip Mother Is the Milky Way tbh.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:24 (four days ago) link

Ha, no way. That could be my second favourite at the moment - just the right balance between abstract and more traditional song structures. Kinda sums up what was good about Broadcast IMO.

Jeff W, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:29 (four days ago) link

Listening through everything it was my least favourite release (and Witch Cults, from the same year no less, is top of my LPs list) - but sth I can see from the votes so far is that there are many different types of Broadcast fan.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 21:38 (four days ago) link

Mother has grown in stature for me, since the reissue. It probably didn't help that it was previously just a collection of mp3s that I downloaded and misplaced several times over lol.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 19 May 2022 00:31 (three days ago) link

"in terms of waitings (to a maximum of 40 points)"

Good lord, my brain barely works at all at 2 AM, it seems. Weightings, obv.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 19 May 2022 00:40 (three days ago) link

Any chance this could be extended through the end of the weekend?

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 19 May 2022 01:44 (three days ago) link

I'll let CaAL express a view on that in the (UK) morning. I was trying to preserve a small buffer before possible commencement of the rollout early next week.

It's still almost 2.5 days till the end of Friday in UTC-12.* Maybe we'll see how people are going closer to that time?

* it's true, I am enjoying arbitrarily referring to a timezone with no inhabitants.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 19 May 2022 02:18 (three days ago) link

One more vote for the extension through the weekend
There's a reason every country votes on Sundays :D

Nabozo, Thursday, 19 May 2022 06:09 (three days ago) link

I am OK for an extension, would buy me a little time to make the pictures.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 19 May 2022 07:37 (three days ago) link

XP: B-b-but...

Okay, until 11:59pm Sunday night then! As long as every such ballot contains "Phantom" and "Ritual", obviously.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 19 May 2022 09:03 (three days ago) link

...and "Inside Out", for that matter, kthx.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 19 May 2022 09:06 (three days ago) link

Here's the Daphne Oram EP mentioned in that obituary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1S8pDiuzJ4

piscesx, Thursday, 19 May 2022 12:41 (three days ago) link

what do your fans look like?

trish: it’s quite a mixture actually. ha ha ha. I suppose the one type I’ve come across more than any other is this short, small gay computer or website type guy. I don’t know why. I wouldn’t say they’re nerds. when I meet these people, I say “I know he’s gay and I bet he works in computers,” and it will come out and I think “how bizarre.”

This Chickfactor thing is frequently hilarious. Though y'all probably knew this decades ago.

XP: Cool!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 19 May 2022 12:55 (three days ago) link

ha, amazing!

cf: who is the most underappreciated artist in this country?

trish: autechre. I think they’re fantastic. there’s no compromise with what they do. they’re not massive either; they’ll pull a decent crowd, like at camber sands they pulled a good crowd. the autechre fans are always boys that can’t walk properly, they’ll push your pint into you. rude, horrible boys go to autechre gigs. I always get a laugh out of it. if they wanted to do a commercial track, it would be no. 1.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 19 May 2022 13:14 (three days ago) link

t/s: small gay computer / website guys vs rude, horrible boys that can't walk properly

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 19 May 2022 13:16 (three days ago) link

lol how many Neil Bullock drum solos should I include on my tracks ballot? (yes, I’ve reached 2003)

Jeff W, Thursday, 19 May 2022 16:53 (three days ago) link

It's interesting that the procession of drummers ended up being a bit hard to keep track of, for a band volunteering (in that Sean Hughes interview above) the protracted pursuit of "what bass drum sound we want, what snare sound we want" as the first reason for TNMBP taking forever to finish.

Somewhat related: I suspect them seemingly ceasing to care much about awesome-sounding drums, beyond a track or two, is a factor in Tender Buttons being the least durable LP for me.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 20 May 2022 00:39 (two days ago) link

Long voting periods are dangerous. Now I'm pondering all over again, a month later, whether the Children of Alice compilation should be on my albums ballot!!!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 20 May 2022 01:24 (two days ago) link

Help I just listened to "Corporeal" 6 times in a row can't stop

J. Sam, Friday, 20 May 2022 01:58 (two days ago) link

I guess we're back to something like 3 days out from the (revised) deadline. So here's yet another excruciating reminder not to dilly-dally!

90 tracks have received the nod now. And things are still pretty tight on the scoreboard. eg. the present #10 is barely (the equivalent of) one first-place vote ahead of #20.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 20 May 2022 12:17 (two days ago) link

extend it to Autumn as that's when most of the tracks sound best ;)

nashwan, Friday, 20 May 2022 12:42 (two days ago) link

xps

I've been there only recently. Corporeal on repeat loudly is so addictive. Something about the drone-warmth & melodic clarity. I just don't want to leave it.

woof, Friday, 20 May 2022 13:08 (two days ago) link

It is autumn here, for few more days! :) I can report that they are indeed sounding good.

I'm not aware of any other ballots originating from the southern hemisphere yet though, 'strue. Though some 'strayans have visited the thread IIRC.

Official soundtrack, for this *bump*, btw: Arc of a Journey

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 20 May 2022 13:37 (two days ago) link

This was a lot of fun. I've been listening since mid-97, but had to write down lyric snippets in my spreadsheet to help remember what song is what--if you'd asked me to hum a bit of "Lunch Hour Pops" a month ago I'd have been stuck. When listening to Ha Ha Sound it was "ah yes the swirly one where the balloons go outside," and it's a favorite. So now I can properly ID most songs from a band I've long cherished. And I gave more attention to Berberian, Microtronics and Witch Cults than ever before. Thanks very much for doing this poll, and also for the great spreadsheet, which was very helpful.

Torei, Friday, 20 May 2022 18:54 (two days ago) link

voted!

kraudive, Friday, 20 May 2022 20:35 (two days ago) link

I received one ballot in the last few hours, which is think is Torei's. (With a special note about 'Colour Me In' -- I figure that's distinctive.) Did you definitely send yours around the time of your post, kraudive?

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 20 May 2022 22:53 (two days ago) link

The one message I had overlooked days ago had been erroneously directed to my spam folder. But not this one. Perplexing!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 21 May 2022 02:07 (yesterday) link

Just tried to send again.

kraudive, Saturday, 21 May 2022 11:41 (yesterday) link

Yep! Got it. Thanks. :)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 21 May 2022 11:44 (yesterday) link

I'm just entering a ballot which included "Winter Sun Wavelengths". Something which hadn't really occurred to me before. I recall it was ostensibly improvised but it was definitely a recurring thing in their late sets. I'm certainly not inclined to say it's ineligible!

I guess y'all have a little less than 2 days left, so you best not let it slip your mind now if you'd been working on a ballot!

Official soundtrack for this post: Microtronics 07

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 21 May 2022 15:22 (yesterday) link

I was the one who included "Winter Sun Wavelengths". It was just so mesmerizing when I saw them on that last tour...and something I will never forget. Felt like I had to include it. Probably didn't give it quite enough points unless some other people have it on their ballot.

chewy, Saturday, 21 May 2022 19:39 (yesterday) link

Another thing I should mention in relation to late ballots: Familiar Shapes and Noises!

I didn't initially want to specify a lower limit on the minimum possible size of LPs/EPs, but I obviously ended up doing so where it actually mattered. This isn't "4 or more tracks" long, but I'm not particularly keen on excluding stuff, so it made its way into the results, somewhat inconsistently. Just in case anyone else really did want to list it but didn't, I'm happy to receive amendments. (And strongly-worded complaints about procedural sloppiness too, I guess.)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 22 May 2022 00:34 (seven hours ago) link

97 distinct tracks have received votes. We're currently nudging the 20 ballot mark. A quick check of recent polls suggests that that would put this at the TMBG or Cat Power level in terms of size of the voter pool. I actually like how a rollout would look with the current numbers, so this might even be ideal!

On the other hand, something like a dozen more people have appeared in the thread at least vaguely hinting they may vote. And up to half of ballots so far were from people I hadn't previously known were keen. So I haven't a clue what to expect.

Anyway, there's some 36 hours left!

Official soundtrack for this post: this drummer covering the drum part of Man Is Not A Bird

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 22 May 2022 01:40 (six hours ago) link


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