It's POLL For You -- ILM artist poll #103 -- JANET JACKSON (voting open until July 24, 2020)

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Minneapolis!

MAIN POLL

Send me your ballot of at least 10 top tracks, or up to as many as you want. The top 40 ranked songs will be given weighted points, but any songs beyond those 40 will get 10 points each. (Collaborations are eligible for the poll.)

APPETIZER POLLS

Albums: Rank up to 5 of your top Janet albums/comps/EPs.

INTERLUDES

Rank up to 5 of your top Janet interludes.
Remixes: Rank up to 5 of your top remixes.
Music Videos: Rank up to 10 of your top videos.

(NOTE: Indicate if ballots are ranked or unranked; even the sidebar polls.)

Send ballots to ephender at-sign gmail dot com. Order ballots from highest (#1) to lowest, and include your username.

Voting closes at midnight July 24, 2020, or within a few hours or days thereafter.

Juanita was robbed (Eric H.), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 00:08 (one year ago) link

Minneapolis!

Ready!

geoffreyess, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 02:38 (one year ago) link

determined to vote for Unbreakable, however much Control thru All for You tells me it's impossible

geoffreyess, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 02:40 (one year ago) link

I guess now's as good a time as any to say that I'll accept votes for interludes, too.

Juanita was robbed (Eric H.), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 02:51 (one year ago) link

oh no

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 02:52 (one year ago) link

Evidently I've misjudged the level of enthusiasm for this ballot poll.

Juanita was robbed (Eric H.), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:02 (one year ago) link

I didn't even see that this had gone up

shout-out to his family (DJP), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:34 (one year ago) link

I’m enthused!

A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:37 (one year ago) link

Well, so long as there's a small but dedicated pool of acolytes I guess.

Juanita was robbed (Eric H.), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:49 (one year ago) link

Very excited for this. Will start doing some revision today. I have a feeling that if I listen to Control and Rhythm Nation that would be well over half my list right there. I need to make room for plenty of All For You as it's definitely her most underrated album. Really fond of Damita Jo too.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 14:04 (one year ago) link

I haven’t heard anything post-All For You. Recommendations?

A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 14:10 (one year ago) link

Ooooooh. I tend to just passively observe most artist polls but I might have to throw in a ballot for this one.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 14:13 (one year ago) link

I haven’t heard anything post-All For You. Recommendations?

I'd highly recommend giving Unbreakable a spin.

Juanita was robbed (Eric H.), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 14:17 (one year ago) link

gonna preemptively bring up "All Nite (Don't Stop)", "Feedback", and "The Great Forever" as latter-era gems

shout-out to his family (DJP), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 14:22 (one year ago) link

Damita Jo isn't much of a drop off after All For You and Discipline has some good moments too. I need to give Unbreakable another go. I know a lot of people on here really rate. I'll try and make room for No Sleeep on my list.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 14:24 (one year ago) link

I've always loved her singles but not given proper attention to the albums. Here's my excuse!

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 16:03 (one year ago) link

Unbreakable is marvelous.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 16:17 (one year ago) link

Eric, honey, love is one thing we was nevah stahved for in the South.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 16:18 (one year ago) link

https://girlsdofilm.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/davis-bette-all-about-eve_02.jpg?w=768

"Escapade"

But that was the fourth straight time.

Then this will be five.

Juanita was robbed (Eric H.), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 16:24 (one year ago) link

Excited for this!

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 16:59 (one year ago) link

LET'S GO

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 17:00 (one year ago) link

So this is no doubt incomplete, but here is a list of the song titles I've pre-loaded onto my spreadsheet in case anyone needs a refresher.

Say You Do
You'll Never Find (A Love Like Mine)
Young Love
Love And My Best Friend
Don't Mess Up This Good Thing
Forever Yours
The Magic Is Working
Come Give Your Love To Me
Don't Stand Another Chance
Two To The Power Of Love
Pretty Boy
Dream Street
Communication
Fast Girls
Hold Back The Tears
All My Love To You
If It Takes All Night
French Blue
Start Anew
Control
Nasty
What Have You Done For Me Lately
You Can Be Mine
The Pleasure Principle
When I Think Of You
He Doesn't Know I'm Alive
Let's Wait Awhile
Funny How Time Flies (When You're Having Fun)
Diamonds
Making Love in the Rain
Rhythm Nation
State Of The World
The Knowledge
Miss You Much
Love Will Never Do (Without You)
Livin' In A World (They Didn't Make)
Alright
Escapade
Black Cat
Lonely
Come Back To Me
Someday Is Tonight
2300 Jackson Street
The Best Things in Life Are Free
That's The Way Love Goes
You Want This
If
This Time
Throb
What'll I Do
Funky Big Band
New Agenda
Because Of Love
Again
Where Are You Now
The Body That Loves You
Any Time, Any Place
Whoops Now
One More Chance
70's Love Groove
And On and On
Scream
Runaway
Twenty Foreplay
Velvet Rope
You
Got 'Til It's Gone
My Need
Go Deep
Free Xone
Together Again
Empty
What About
Every Time
Tonight's The Night
I Get Lonely
Rope Burn
Anything
Special
Can't Be Stopped
God's Stepchild
Accept Me
Luv Me, Luv Me
What's It Gonna Be?!
Girlfriend/Boyfriend
Doesn't Really Matter
You Ain't Right
All For You
Come On Get Up
When We Oooo
China Love
Love Scene (Ooh Baby)
Would You Mind
Trust A Try
Son Of A Gun (I Betcha Think This Song Is About You)
Truth
Someone To Call My Lover
Feels So Right
Better Days
Who
Feel It Boy
Damita Jo
Sexhibition
Strawberry Bounce
My Baby
Spending Time With You
Island Life
All Nite (Don't Stop)
R&B Junkie
I Want You
Like You Don't Love Me
Thinkin' 'Bout My Ex
Warmth
Moist
Truly
Slo Love
Just A Little While
I'm Here
Put Your Hands On
Don't Worry
So Excited
Show Me
Get It Out Me
Do It 2 Me
This Body
With U
Call On Me
Daybreak
Enjoy
Take Care
Love 2 Love
Roll Witchu
Days Roll By
Feedback
Luv
Roller Coaster
Rock With U
2Nite
Can't B Good
Never Letchu Go
Greatest X
So Much Betta
The 1
What's Ur Name
Discipline
Curtains
Let Me Know
Make Me
Nothing
Unbreakable
BurnItUp!
Dammn Baby
The Great Forever
Shoulda Known Better
After You Fall
Broken Hearts Heal
Night
No Sleeep
Dream Maker / Euphoria
2 B Loved
Take Me Away
Lessons Learned
Black Eagle
Well Traveled
Gon' B Alright
Made For Now

Juanita was robbed (Eric H.), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 18:40 (one year ago) link

Definitely incomplete. Here's a few other titles to consider: https://www.discogs.com/Janet-Jackson-Past-The-Rope-B-Sides-Rarites-Collection/release/10631137

Juanita was robbed (Eric H.), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 18:41 (one year ago) link

im in on this for sure.

Spottie, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 18:51 (one year ago) link

Just looking at that list, I'd totally forgotten about Runaway from her first singles compilation. Such a lovely song.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 20:24 (one year ago) link

I play "Runaway" at least once a month

shout-out to his family (DJP), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 20:27 (one year ago) link

one of favorite new songs written for a comp

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 20:29 (one year ago) link

ILM be honest are the first two albums worth listening to or is the consensus that Control is her real first album accurate?

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 20:30 (one year ago) link

excited for this, there's a lot of her discog i've never really dug into but what i have heard is a+

"empty" still sounds ahead of its time over 20 years after its release

ufo, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 23:56 (one year ago) link

I am excited to see the results but won't be able to vote, as I'm only familiar with her singles, and the Control and Rhythm Nation albums

Vinnie, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 00:16 (one year ago) link

You can still vote if you want to

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 00:23 (one year ago) link

absolutely recommend listening to the velvet rope at the very least

ufo, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 00:23 (one year ago) link

also probably janet. too really. is it controversial to say that 90s janet >>>> 80s janet?

ufo, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 00:54 (one year ago) link

ILM be honest are the first two albums worth listening to or is the consensus that Control is her real first album accurate?

― justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, June 30, 2020 1:30 PM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

there are a few jams! i can't remember what they are at the moment, but they're there!

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 02:40 (one year ago) link

is it controversial to say that 90s janet >>>> 80s janet?

― ufo, Tuesday, June 30, 2020 5:54 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

it might not be! i personally have a hard time making this judgment bc control has the same kind of relationship to rhythm nation as janet does to velvet rope, breakthrough -> masterwork

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 02:43 (one year ago) link

I have voted in some polls where I only knew half of the artist's catalog, but two albums + maybe 6-7 other songs would be like 20%? if we don't have enough voters, I'll try to listen to a couple more albums and throw in a ballot

Vinnie, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 02:54 (one year ago) link

is it controversial to say that 90s janet >>>> 80s janet?

Not at all.

Juanita was robbed (Eric H.), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 12:54 (one year ago) link

(Esp since most of the Rhythm Nation singles were in the '90s.)

Juanita was robbed (Eric H.), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 12:55 (one year ago) link

As I predicted, I listened to Control and Rhythm Nation last night and that's half of my list gone already.

kitchen person, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 13:50 (one year ago) link

BTW, I am not accepting ballots with fewer than 10 songs, and regard ballots with only two songs to be trolling.

Juanita was robbed (Eric H.), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 13:52 (one year ago) link

what if the two songs are "Empty" and "Miss You Much"

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:03 (one year ago) link

They were both from All For You.

Juanita was robbed (Eric H.), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:06 (one year ago) link

The first Jackson album has several Rene & Angela jams, one of which smokes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RLwRsTwV64

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:07 (one year ago) link

"Say You Do" is on the shortlist to make my ballot.

Juanita was robbed (Eric H.), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:09 (one year ago) link

I would still accept "When We Oooo" and "Would You Mind"

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:10 (one year ago) link

I really do love that All For You takes Janet's traditional block of four album-closing ballads and moves them right up to the first half.

Juanita was robbed (Eric H.), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:12 (one year ago) link

And then is all "now that you're comfortable, here's a goofy thing with Carly Simon"

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:16 (one year ago) link

Doesn't Really Matter and Someone To Call My Lover are probably both going to be in my top 10.

kitchen person, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:18 (one year ago) link

"Doesn't Really Matter" was such a perfect summer jam. I don't think anyone thought that confident mid tempo thing would be her first post-VR single.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:20 (one year ago) link

lmao just thinking about being the kind of artist who has a run like control -> velvet rope

peerless

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 14:21 (one year ago) link

Voted!

bunny slopes, Sunday, 26 July 2020 23:55 (one year ago) link

breastcrawl, i feel your pain at wanting to keep up with new releases but it's good to pause that sometimes.
Really enjoyed having this as a listening project.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 July 2020 01:00 (one year ago) link

Three more ballots to add to the spreadsheet but I am leaving the window open until I get a ballot from DJP tbh.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 27 July 2020 01:07 (one year ago) link

Think I’ll try to get one in before end of day

Spottie, Monday, 27 July 2020 01:28 (one year ago) link

Have been having some fun speculating on the age of each ballot submitter as they come in. Generational differences are making these results a bit more surprising than I anticipated.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 27 July 2020 02:33 (one year ago) link

old ladies still love Control

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 27 July 2020 02:49 (one year ago) link

uggghghg I have my list of songs but it is SO challenging to order them because I just love everything?????

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 27 July 2020 03:44 (one year ago) link

forks, it’s not a pain to me, and it’s not really that I feel a pressure to keep up either. it’s just that there’s so much good music coming out all the time, and I enjoy wallowing in it, which includes ending up in the occasional rabbit hole. I have bouts of revisiting or (re)discovering older stuff, but these are never planned and never last very long. it wasn’t always this way, but it is now, and like I said, I like it that way.

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Monday, 27 July 2020 06:05 (one year ago) link

I'll try to get a ballot in today

weekly shopper helper (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 27 July 2020 11:48 (one year ago) link

breastcrawl: Far be it from me to tell anyone how they should listen! I get into long listening jags myself where I disappear into niches, genres, eras or artists, so i dig it.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:02 (one year ago) link

Just to make sure I haven't missed anyone's ballots, here's my list of participants thus far:

clemenza
gospodin simmel
Tom L.
BradNelson
Kitchen Person
technopolis
krewki
justfanoe
uberweiss
evol j
erasingclouds
or something
cryptosicko
Gavin, Leeds
monotony
ufo
Alfred, Lord Soto
forks/ulysses
Austin
VegemiteGrrl
Tim F
mostly lurkin'
dbs
geoffreyess
Nourry
bunny slopes
Stevie D
Eric H.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:50 (one year ago) link

If you gave me a ballot and don't see your name above, hit me up.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:50 (one year ago) link

so, after jamming nothing but janet the past week or so, i'm ready to officially start the rhythm nation political party. who's with me?

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 27 July 2020 18:13 (one year ago) link

LET'S GO

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 July 2020 18:13 (one year ago) link

MINNEAPOLIS!

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 27 July 2020 20:38 (one year ago) link

is it too late? if not whats the ultimate cut off?

Spottie, Monday, 27 July 2020 21:01 (one year ago) link

Ok I just sent one in xp

weekly shopper helper (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 27 July 2020 21:04 (one year ago) link

If I were to do my ballot for the 00s album reboot today I wd absolutely include All for You. 'Masterpiece' is def a word that came to mind a few times while I've been listening to it over the past week

weekly shopper helper (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 27 July 2020 21:08 (one year ago) link

it's definitely better than its reputation.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 27 July 2020 21:16 (one year ago) link

I'm going to say the ultimate official cut off is tonight at midnight so that I can hopefully roll out the poll next week.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 27 July 2020 21:21 (one year ago) link

(If any stragglers come in overnight though, I'll still include them.)

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 27 July 2020 21:22 (one year ago) link

thanks!

Spottie, Monday, 27 July 2020 21:23 (one year ago) link

'Masterpiece' is def a word that came to mind a few times

that's the only word for it :)

geoffreyess, Monday, 27 July 2020 21:26 (one year ago) link

ballot submitted.

Spottie, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 00:45 (one year ago) link

And received!

And with that and no other ballots submitted overnight, I hereby officially declare this poll closed!

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 13:16 (one year ago) link

funny how time flies!

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 13:46 (one year ago) link

oops

shout-out to his family (DJP), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 14:28 (one year ago) link

DJP, if you think you can get it to me by the end of today, I'm happy to include it in. (Same goes for everyone, really, but after that I need to get the graphics in motion.)

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 14:32 (one year ago) link

whoops now!

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 14:40 (one year ago) link

lol i sent a late one just now

billstevejim, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 15:00 (one year ago) link

I should mention that 135 songs have gotten at least one vote, which means about half of them will end up on the 77.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 18:35 (one year ago) link

this poll is gonna rule.

― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, July 25, 2020 1:19 PM

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 18:46 (one year ago) link

i'm so excited

überweiss, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 19:35 (one year ago) link

when's launch ETD?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 19:41 (one year ago) link

can't wait

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 19:44 (one year ago) link

Aiming to start with the sidebar polls on Monday, followed by four days of tracks.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 20:03 (one year ago) link

Alright, final tally of ballots for the tracks portion was 33. We are now final-chimes-of-Rhythm-Nation-ringing-out closed for new ballots. Sorry not sorry.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 13:38 (one year ago) link

MINNEAPOLIS!

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 13:40 (one year ago) link

C'MOOOOOOOOONNNNNNN

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 13:47 (one year ago) link

lol I am so bad at this

sorry Eric, I did intend to vote but somehow couldn't get my shit together

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 14:34 (one year ago) link

Based on some of what you've been stunting for upthread, I think you'll be more or less cool with the results as they are.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 14:43 (one year ago) link

Mostly more tho.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 14:44 (one year ago) link

currently jammin "when i think of you" in stater bros, it's a sign!

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 30 July 2020 00:33 (one year ago) link

Control: The Remixes always reminds me of this snippet in the Faith-era Rolling Stone interview with George Micheal;

"How do they get that sound?” He is driving down London’s Piccadilly, turning heads in nearby cars as he marvels at the thunderous bass on the Janet Jackson remix album that’s playing on the CD player in his black Mercedes sedan.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/george-michael-seriously-80896/

piscesx, Thursday, 30 July 2020 02:21 (one year ago) link

Control: The Remixes

oh hey there's an album of peak era janet that i've never heard.

(looks up details)

it was never released in america ò_ó

and oh hey, the "cool summer mix" absolutely fucking slays.

i could have been jammin this heat for the last twenty three years if i didn't live in merckah, but whatever, this is fine. i guess.

ò_ó

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 30 July 2020 02:38 (one year ago) link

iirc it's on American spotify now tho, along with a ton of other Janet remixes

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 30 July 2020 11:50 (one year ago) link

lmao it's almost twice the length of the album itself

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 30 July 2020 11:52 (one year ago) link

Holy shit, y'all, Spotify has remix "singles" for Rhythm Nation, Miss You Much, Escapade, Alright, Come BAck To Me, Black Cat, Love Will Never Do, and State Of The World that are ALL album-length as well (like 45-75 min)

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 30 July 2020 12:00 (one year ago) link

can't wait for this

bunny slopes, Sunday, 2 August 2020 22:19 (one year ago) link


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