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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M1DPmfUi9g

"sugar" looks to be on its way to becoming brockhampton's first big hit single. are you mad about it? i'm not -- it's quite a nice, sincere-sounding song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAYG46w1SCA

soon to be graduating from tiktok vids to your 'local' top 40's playlist is "say so" from last year's doja cat album -- if the process happens slowly enough, maybe it'll be ringing out in public during the spring- or summertime that the song seems to embody. doja's "juicy" also just made minor inroads at pop stations and was quite a sizeable hit on the 'urban-leaning' ones. welcome back to radio, dr. luke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izyZLKIWGiA

alicia keys's newest one, co-penned by ed sheeran and recently performed on the grammy broadcast w/ brittany howard, is getting a shot. you can almost imagine sheeran singing it, imagining himself to suitably represent the titular 'dog

if you all don't mind, i think 'll also post about some mainstream rap songs in here. tho the worlds of pop and rap were considered disparate and largely irreconcilable in the industry even recently, they're evidently on the collision course again, commingling, combining, turning it over. i didn't expect to hear "the box" getting played on my city's top 40 station until april or maybe late march, but here we are.

dyl, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 05:18 (one year ago) link

pop songs that aren't charting or well known at all ofc also welcome

dyl, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 05:34 (one year ago) link

still loving 'time machine' by Alicia. do not like this underdog song at all.

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 06:00 (one year ago) link

Dang -- that "Sugar" video needs an NSFW or trigger warning or something!

I'm allergic to Doja cat. The Alicia tune is nice, but not really my thing.

dad genes (morrisp), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:46 (one year ago) link

oops yeah, that one part is definitely a bit shocking/disturbing. presumably for that reason the video actually comes w/ the age-restriction warning on youtube but i guess that doesn't help when it's being accessed via embed. sorry!!

dyl, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 04:40 (one year ago) link

It’s OK, I kept it on the dl*... I was just like, !!

(*my phone initially autocorrected this to “dyl”)

dad genes (morrisp), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 04:59 (one year ago) link

i've come back to this a few times now. i'm not sure if hailee steinfeld will ever develop a real musical identity, but she knows how to pull out a good song when she needs one. one of the more convincing among its kin of weepy ballads recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncV1TlNl9B8

dyl, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 05:40 (one year ago) link

so happy 2020 has a pop thread!

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 18:45 (one year ago) link

enjoying j0rdan’s new column https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/z3b353/tame-impala-has-pop-aspirations-that-dont-make-sense

flopson, Sunday, 9 February 2020 04:54 (one year ago) link

yeah this one he wrote on today's shifting tides in pop was great too https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/7kz8xq/justin-biebers-yummy-struggle-to-hit-no-1-proves-roddy-ricch-is-a-new-kind-of-pop-star

dyl, Sunday, 9 February 2020 17:18 (one year ago) link

thank u guys

J0rdan S., Sunday, 9 February 2020 18:09 (one year ago) link

as far as tik tok crossover songs go, i think ant saunders "yellow hearts" is pretty dope. for the official single it looks like they've turned it into a duet but i think it's an improvement, the girl sounds rly good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVKUW3cu_lY

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 February 2020 18:12 (one year ago) link

or maybe this is just another version... anyway good track

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 February 2020 18:14 (one year ago) link

definitely prefer that to arizona zervas or trevor daniel

dyl, Thursday, 13 February 2020 04:09 (one year ago) link

I think this is a nice/interesting track (Madison Beer - "Selfish"):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzUbjigZTpM

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 23:49 (one year ago) link

"Madison Beer" also an all-time great artist name, IMO

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 23:53 (one year ago) link

she could earn 1000 nerd hit points by titling her second album More Beer

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 00:00 (one year ago) link

whenever i see her name i think of the character from the bad-but-amusing teen thriller swimfan

dyl, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 05:50 (one year ago) link

What do you guys think of "Stupid" by Tate McRae? I heard it on a top 40 station yesterday. Haven't really focused that much on the songwriting but the guitar line interested me enough to stop and listen. The sound itself reminded me a little of In Rainbows-era Radiohead and the overall production has an interesting atmospheric quality. Apparently, she's a teenager from Calgary who works with Billie Eilish?

With considerable charm, you still have made a choice (Sund4r), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 14:11 (one year ago) link

"Selfish" was nice. The way the progression moves from the IV to the borrowed iv was interesting and reminded me a bit of some Beatles ballads. I like the ascending melody in the pre-chorus.

With considerable charm, you still have made a choice (Sund4r), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 14:41 (one year ago) link

This song is somewhat of a trifle, but the beat/vibe are sticky... it's a real "turn it up immediately" track for me:

Josie Dunne - Back To It

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnqX4ZbjGuQ

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:05 (one year ago) link

FYI, Josie's entire EP (where that track appears) has a similar sound, and is similarly good...

https://66.media.tumblr.com/1643d2639444771102422cdd0d82aeb8/b9d39cd930d41df4-9b/s500x750/e8380ec680d41e3717fe615200e8b39c548250cf.jpg

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 21:53 (one year ago) link

Loving the new Allie X album, Cape God. Previous releases showed potential, but it's fully realised here. Her voice (and sometimes the songs) reminds me a lot of Inara George / the bird and the bee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-R4BMBJCKw

Jeff W, Friday, 21 February 2020 19:48 (one year ago) link

Sometimes I listen to that “Yellow Hearts” track posted above... the guy’s voice/“singing” is irritating to me (but I know it’s probably supposed to be). I like the part with the girl. It’s a nice, lightweight, pleasantly cheezy song for 15-yr-olds hanging at the mall, or whatever.

Ticket Tout (morrisp), Sunday, 23 February 2020 21:18 (one year ago) link

Also, doubling down on my rec of that Josie Dunne EP... I’ve played it soooo much. The songs hit some kind of sweet spot for me, and I like her singing a lot (and I usually don’t get into artists in that “style”).

Ticket Tout (morrisp), Sunday, 23 February 2020 21:23 (one year ago) link

Selena Gomez released a new single that doesn't appear on her (very) recent album(!) It's not great, but not bad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Th0EwFmkLA

Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 19:41 (one year ago) link

Thanx to “Yellow Hearts,” YT is now serving me up new songs by this guy... gotta admit, I kinda like this, too:

Ant Saunders - u know it’s real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLHIVfVdKuI

Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Saturday, 29 February 2020 06:02 (one year ago) link

apparently there’s a whole mini-genre of this stuff... I guess it’s like, extremely chill music for clean-cut college kids in a beach town? sort of a Jack Johnson function, plus lite beats and minus the soulful grit? tidal can hook u up

Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Saturday, 29 February 2020 06:48 (one year ago) link

more like zoomers on tiktok

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Saturday, 29 February 2020 07:38 (one year ago) link

that one is a bit dopey for me but i like him generally

J0rdan S., Saturday, 29 February 2020 08:48 (one year ago) link

yeah the one rando i've seen irl queuing up "yellow hearts" et al does not fit that demographic description at all

dyl, Saturday, 29 February 2020 17:19 (one year ago) link

Well, college kids are Zoomers!

Admittedly my quick evaluation above may have been based more on “related” artists that Tidal was throwing up, such as “Ruel,” “Khai Dreams,” and “Thomas Headon.”

Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Saturday, 29 February 2020 17:50 (one year ago) link

The general vibe I’m getting is — “friendly preppy guy in your high school chemistry class; captain of the soccer team; maybe you’re friends with his younger sister,” etc.

Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Saturday, 29 February 2020 17:53 (one year ago) link

been digging this kid deaton chris anthony, this song "1999 she" is pretty hot rn... this is a goofy internet-y sorta track but if you peel it back a bit it's a dope play on 90s house

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9K6-M9gUjY

this rap song w/ clairo is also goofy but i find it charming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMMshdy-0gw

J0rdan S., Saturday, 29 February 2020 19:24 (one year ago) link

Well, college kids are Zoomers!

Admittedly my quick evaluation above may have been based more on “related” artists that Tidal was throwing up, such as “Ruel,” “Khai Dreams,” and “Thomas Headon.”

― Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Saturday, February 29, 2020 12:50 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

right yeah, this is just my suggesting that tidal is not really the source of this

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Saturday, 29 February 2020 19:54 (one year ago) link

hm i kinda like those two xp

dyl, Saturday, 29 February 2020 23:06 (one year ago) link

I dig this soapy, soundtracky tune:

Charlotte Lawrence - Joke's On You

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=532k3IdHSZ8

tamagotchi revival artist (morrisp), Thursday, 5 March 2020 00:33 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

^she is now one of several artists to announce a COVID-19 diagnosis :(

morrisp, Sunday, 22 March 2020 20:59 (one year ago) link

oh no! i interviewed her last year and she was very sweet.

maura, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:13 (one year ago) link

I confess I don't dislike this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07RHI4MDQ-U

Nourry, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 19:10 (one year ago) link

ugh that cover looks way too much like covid 19 stock art

maura, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 23:49 (one year ago) link

not to judge a song by its etc but

maura, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 23:49 (one year ago) link

The Ant Man released an EP:

https://antsaunders.lnk.to/BUBBLE

morrisp, Saturday, 4 April 2020 18:33 (one year ago) link

He’s a very interesting interview subject, lol: https://www.idolator.com/7906247/interview-ant-saunders-talks-yellow-hearts-future-plans

morrisp, Saturday, 4 April 2020 18:36 (one year ago) link

i think it's fair to say that the tiktok hit pipeline is unrelenting at the moment

two of the earlier-breaking ones on the charts right now are lil mosey's "blueberry faygo" and surfaces' "sunday best." they're both trifles but the former has a pretty simple appeal to it imo -- and i can't help but appreciate the johnny gill "my, my, my" sample. the latter embodies the same energy as spring breakers in florida last month.

certainly the biggest of the most recent-to-break tiktok hits is megan thee stallion's "savage." while i'm glad to see her, talented as she is, scoring such a substantial success, i wish it had been with a different song -- like "b.i.t.c.h.", which is currently a hit at urban radio but running out of streaming steam. "savage" is not bad, but for me there's not a lot to it aside from the effortlessly catchy hook. i'm generally not one to be amused by dance challenges, but i did enjoy seeing a clip of the 'god warrior' dancing to it.

i appreciate that "supalonely" by new zealand singer benee at least sort of defies expectation as to what hits of this sort should sound like, but i'm not entirely won over by the song itself yet, and the dude on the track is nearly intolerable.

'in these uncertain times' (to use a phrase currently favored by advertising copywriters) it seems tiktok users are connecting with powfu's "death bed," a rap-ballad fantasy about dying young. the sample that comprises the hook is definitely the focal point: pitched up, distant-sounding, like a fading memory replayed in one's head. the song it's derived from, beabadoobee's "coffee," has been out since 2017 but now has a new music video -- perhaps someone is hoping it can be the "thank you" to powfu's "stan."

of course drake had to swoop in with his own. i'll be honest: i was fully prepared to be among the apparently many online bemoaning its crass cynicism, its lack of justification for existing beyond the potential to inspire predictable social media activity -- but oops, i actually like it, certainly more than some of the drake singles that critics have deemed classics, and more than any of the other songs i've mentioned in this post. i have a strange affinity for putatively upbeat 'party' records that have a touch of moroseness to them, and the sustained tones in this one's backing track push it into that territory for me. the synth noodling also has an inexact, uncertain quality that i find vaguely intoxicating; even paying the lyrics little attention, it's a track i can find myself lost in. those particular lines meant to inspire the inevitable dance videos are so brief and inconsequential, but i wouldn't consider myself above trying the steps if i found myself at a gathering, were it advisable for me to gather anywhere. it will probably crash in at #1 on the week after next's billboard charts and may remain there a while.

dyl, Sunday, 5 April 2020 03:27 (one year ago) link

Great post, dyl. I agree the Drake song is catchy (when I let him borrow my house to shot the video, I made him promise it would be a hit).

morrisp, Sunday, 5 April 2020 04:32 (one year ago) link

I remember that Surfaces video from the “Worst Music of 2019” thread. So it finally “broke through,” huh?

The “Supalonely” song has a nice sound, but the lyrics stink...

morrisp, Sunday, 5 April 2020 05:00 (one year ago) link

Several of the songs dyl mentioned are name-checked here (plus “our own” Glenn McD.): https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2020-04-07/benee-supalonely-powfu-deathbed-pop-songs-coronavirus

morrisp, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 01:45 (one year ago) link

i appreciate that "supalonely" by new zealand singer benee at least sort of defies expectation as to what hits of this sort should sound like, but i'm not entirely won over by the song itself yet, and the dude on the track is nearly intolerable.

it's a good song, but for all its idiosyncrasies it seems like a calculated attempt to create a meme: goofy adlibs, OTT autotune, self-deprecating sadboi-isms, prominent curse word in the hook to make the 12-year-olds feel edgy, trigger words (thinkin 🤔, drinkin 🍻) that lend themselves to tiktok hand gestures/dance moves. it reminds me of Superorganism in that respect even though they don't have much in common musically. I prefer Benee's first EP to her second because the novelty factor is a little less pronounced. Gus Dapperton's verse is awful and I really wish there was a version without it

anatomy of a buttless wonder (unregistered), Sunday, 12 April 2020 20:44 (one year ago) link

What do you guys think of "Stupid" by Tate McRae? I heard it on a top 40 station yesterday. Haven't really focused that much on the songwriting but the guitar line interested me enough to stop and listen. The sound itself reminded me a little of In Rainbows-era Radiohead and the overall production has an interesting atmospheric quality. Apparently, she's a teenager from Calgary who works with Billie Eilish?

― With considerable charm, you still have made a choice (Sund4r), Wednesday, February 19, 2020 9:11 AM (one month ago)

her 'I Wrote a Song' video and Clairo's 'Pretty Girl' refused to leave my youtube sidebar for what seemed like a month toward the end of 2017. Billie and Finneas wrote one of her songs ('Tear Myself Apart') but they haven't worked together directly, and Tate's own songwriting style owes more to Alessia Cara than to Billie. I like that song and 'Stupid' and 'Happy Face', but as a whole her EP is a little awkward: the production is all sparse reverby beats and ominous bass drops, which doesn't really suit all her artless confessions about crushes and backstabbing friends. but of course it's 2020 and teenpop is expected to be grimdark rather than just plain moody. fwiw she's probably one of the best competitive dancers in the world, so this is sorta the equivalent of Shaq having a music career on the side

anatomy of a buttless wonder (unregistered), Sunday, 12 April 2020 21:07 (one year ago) link

i don't know the specific rules billboard's data provider (nielsen) applies to attempt to correct for suspicious/manipulative/fraudulent activity that may appear in the figures they collect. even in their statement about that controversial charting week, they seem to avoid going into specifics. i would say much of what's said among fan communities and within the industry about hard limits on number of copies per transaction/'receipt' or credit card is largely rumor/speculation.

dyl, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 06:54 (one year ago) link

i don't know that nielsen even has access to buyer/credit card info for all the download sales figures it receives

dyl, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 06:57 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

interesting collaboration:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byO74UGa8bI
Sam Smith ft. Burna Boy • My Oasis

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Friday, 31 July 2020 16:59 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

it's so sad how slow american top 40 radio is to turn songs over these days. i am now hearing songs like "supalonely," "death bed," "if the world was ending" and "i hope" as much as i ever did, and they all started really popping off like six months ago... not to mention the extended tenures of ancient tunes like "circles," "adore you" and "blinding lights," which is now enjoying its bazillionth week as the top title on billboard's airplay chart. lest it all be blamed on the pandemic, last year was actually just as bad: there have been 25 top 10s on the airplay chart so far this year (by the same time last year it was 24), whereas in the years about a decade ago that number would generally be ~40% greater.

i'm not that idealistic: i know that even in its best years radio seeks to respond to listeners' pre-existing tastes more than it hopes to introduce them to new songs, but this still represents a truly absurd low, at least as far back as i can remember from my lifetime. at this point i have come to expect that any pop song i find online that sounds like a hit will probably not actually enter regular rotation at the top 40 stations i am subjected to at w*rk until half a year later.

so uhhh by that logic, what's gonna be ringing out in the w*rkplace come early 2021? tate mcrae from upthread actually has a song on the charts now, "you broke me first." the eilish influence is obvious but i kinda like it anyway. apparently it's a thing on tiktok, but what isn't these days. conan gray's "heather" is too -- the concept is intriguing in some ways but beyond that i'm not feeling the song at all.

speaking of tiktok, i recently saw a group of high school-age girls across the street from my apartment filming each other doing something-or-other to saweetie's "tap in," presumably for that app. like her last big hit the production is based primarily around an instantly recognizable 00s hit and could have been produced by anyone, but in fact it turns out it's dr. luke's latest.

"mood" by 24kgoldn and iann dior has been zooming up the streaming charts with alarming rapidity for the past month and is about to go top 10 and probably beyond on the hot 100; radio is unsurprisingly just getting started on it. both artists have had previous singles promoted alternately to both rap and alternative stations, w/ mixed results either way, so i guess splitting things down the middle was the way to go. nothing fancy or high-minded about it, but it's cute and catchy.

racing up the airplay charts surprisingly quickly by today's standards is bts's new one, which sports english lyrics and an unnecessary key change. as always, its lofty chart debut was fueled by feverish fan activity, but unlike with previous singles the strong early radio response could actually help it stick around near or even at the top, where it began. i wouldn't say i really like this one -- "boy with luv" is my pick among bts singles -- but the chorus melody is an earworm.

certainly one of the worst songs i have heard recently is surf mesa's sedated house cover of "can't take my eyes off you" (sorry, i mean "ily"). the other 'edm' one getting a shot at top 40 right now, topic & a7s's "breaking me," is no less basic but at least has a solid tune and a non-execrable aesthetic. the latter artists recently released a pretty forgettable followup w/ lil baby of all people.

"i hope" has actually grown on me over the course of its slow rise to full saturation. (i know i'm an incessant charlie puth h8r, but i've come to prefer the original solo version -- it would have been cool if his verse had been more of a response to gabby's instead of just the original second verse sung by a dude, but oh well.) i guess given their past crossover history, the next country tune to go pop could be dan '+' shay's "i should probably go to bed," but the song is a total snooze and the production sounds weirdly hollow. preferable would be morgan wallen's "7 summers" which recently posted shockingly high opening-week streams for a country single, landing in the hot 100's top 10. wallen's already got a single going at country radio right now, so even if they did try crossing it it would probably take until next summer to go the full distance. if it's already this big a hit, why bother?

anyway. i guess i should probably go to bed.

dyl, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 08:14 (ten months ago) link

thanks for that post, stay up late any time :)

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 14:00 (ten months ago) link

seconded

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 15:05 (ten months ago) link

(even if there doesn’t seem to be a great deal of current US chart pop that tickles my fancy)

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 15:07 (ten months ago) link

What kind of w*rk do you do, dyl? Enquiring minds want 2 know!

“Pizza House!” (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 15:25 (ten months ago) link

thanks sean and breastcrawl :)

i w*rk in a clinical lab. the managers generally frown on both headphones + streaming (tho they are starting to budge on the second one slightly) so radio tends to be the default source of background noise

dyl, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 04:02 (ten months ago) link

Interesting, thx - sorry 2 be nosy :)

“Pizza House!” (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 04:08 (ten months ago) link

that dyl superpost is reminding me how disconnected from MY WORLD OF YOUNG PEOPLE the plague is making me feel... no concerts and no outdoor music of any kind means that it's easy to stop panning for flecks of gold in the muddy fields of radio pop. I should really go back to listening to Singles Jukebox i guess.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 14:44 (ten months ago) link

This track seems to have done fairly well; it's basic, but I like it (the songwriters include my crew - Tommy Brown, Victoria Monét, Ariana Grande).

BLACKPINK - Ice Cream (feat. Selena Gomez)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRXZj0DzXIA

Can Butch Vig not do "dynamimcs"? (morrisp), Friday, 11 September 2020 16:49 (ten months ago) link

Btw - I really enjoy the (streaming) Deluxe version of Selena Gomez’s Rare (as distinct from the physical “Deluxe” version of the album, which I also own but has a different tracklist). The streaming version is basically a playlist of everything she’s released in the past year, and it’s highly listenable. (“Rare” is a tremendous single, IMO—I’ve gone on about it in the Selena Gomez thread, & won’t rehash it here.)

Can Butch Vig not do "dynamimcs"? (morrisp), Friday, 11 September 2020 17:34 (ten months ago) link

I like this (especially the beat... and that little d'n'b drop at the end!):

Audrey Nuna - Damn Right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bc1xg5ctUc

Can Butch Vig not do "dynamimcs"? (morrisp), Friday, 11 September 2020 21:25 (ten months ago) link

i didn't expect i would like "ice cream" but it's pretty good. i like "damn right" too

dyl, Saturday, 12 September 2020 04:14 (ten months ago) link

is it pop, is it r&b? either way, it’s further proof of the continuing integration of afropop into the international pop fabric:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyOhdUxScls
Aluna ft. Rema & Kaytranada • The Recipe

jointly produced by Kaytranada and Nigerian producer Altims

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Saturday, 12 September 2020 15:23 (ten months ago) link

v v pretty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDDwmCn_Qm4

abcfsk, Sunday, 13 September 2020 08:17 (ten months ago) link

Emilie Nicolas • Oh Love

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Sunday, 13 September 2020 09:37 (ten months ago) link

what is going on with madison beer? is there really no way forward that does not involve assuming every aspect of an already-established star's aesthetic?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfsLT7W80AE

dyl, Saturday, 19 September 2020 19:03 (ten months ago) link

Lol, that’s hilarious

Madison Beer = watery domestic

Scam Likely (morrisp), Saturday, 19 September 2020 19:44 (ten months ago) link

its really funny + weird that major labels have spent 7 years trying to get a hit out of her and still haven't really succeeded. usually by this point either the label or artist gets fed up with that but instead we get this weird desperate flailing i guess

ufo, Sunday, 20 September 2020 04:19 (ten months ago) link

The “Controversies” section of her Wikipedia page is really humorous.

Scam Likely (morrisp), Sunday, 20 September 2020 04:29 (ten months ago) link

'Fools' and 'Selfish' are good songs and she has a decent enough voice, but she's the kind of artist where you could hear five of her songs in five different contexts/playlists and not even realize they were all by the same person. it's unfair to pigeonhole her as the Walmart version of Ariana or Selena or whoever when she's more like musical equivalent of the entire line of Great Value products. at this point her identity as a clueless/entitled influencer is more developed than her identity as as artist, but I guess it isn't too late for her to find herself even after all these years in the industry

(peech) or (buht ih-moh-jee) (unregistered), Monday, 21 September 2020 21:27 (ten months ago) link

I hope this song shoots to #1 in the US and stays there for at least 18 weeks. it's exactly what we deserve as a country atm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unZpEayPXio

she's the 9th most followed person on TikTok and the daughter of

https://i.imgur.com/NGPJcH7.jpg

Marc D'Amelio (Republican Party) ran for election to the Connecticut State Senate to represent District 25. D'Amelio lost in the general election on November 6, 2018.
In addition to running as a Republican Party candidate, D'Amelio cross-filed to also run with the Independent Party in 2018.[1]

D'Amelio was previously a Republican candidate for at-large representative on the Norwalk Public Schools Board of Education in Connecticut. D'Amelio was defeated in the at-large general election on November 7, 2017.

(peech) or (buht ih-moh-jee) (unregistered), Monday, 21 September 2020 21:34 (ten months ago) link

lol what a song. i would welcome its success over, like, "f2020," which one of the stations here is still trying to make a thing

(blackbear exuding STRONG 'how do you do fellow kids' energy in that video)

i remember back in 2015 initially thinking one of the tori kelly songs that was getting pushed to radio at the time ("should've been us" specifically) was ariana. even tho i didn't like any of the songs i heard from her it's too bad she never really found her niche in mainstream pop given her strength as a singer + performer

dyl, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 03:38 (ten months ago) link

i've listened several more times now and have concluded i enjoy it (re: "be happy")

dyl, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 05:20 (ten months ago) link

cannot fuck with "blackbear"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 13:05 (ten months ago) link

"Be Happy" just came up on a playlist for me. It's very well-recorded, I'll give it that (if only that)...

Scam Likely (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 21:28 (ten months ago) link

So much of this playlist pop is thin, twee, singsongy stuff involving positive affirmations, partying to escape depression/anxiety, etc.

Scam Likely (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 21:33 (ten months ago) link

I don't mind Bea Miller - she's sort of a less distinctive / more beat-forward Billie Eilish (this song is pretty, though somewhat old & being repackaged now):

Bea Miller - feel something

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysNPk-qeesk

Scam Likely (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 21:48 (ten months ago) link

i feel like the last time i heard a bea miller song she wasn't singing quite like that :\

partying to escape depression/anxiety

there's a clunky but i guess sort of #relatable line in "mood" that aims right at this idea: "we play games of love to avoid the depression" etc.

i've gone back and listened to the original "be happy" and it's uneven as a song; they definitely retained all the best parts/lines for the remix, which is overall an improvement. mosey's verse is also cute and while blackbear's contribution just kind of takes up space, it's at least ignorable.

dyl, Thursday, 24 September 2020 04:21 (ten months ago) link

love Bea miller's chorus on k/da's 'the baddest'.

oscar bravo, Thursday, 24 September 2020 05:36 (ten months ago) link

"thin" is the best descriptor for a lot of the folksy-electronic self-affirmation whining I'm finding on exploring "Billboard/NOW THAT'S what the kids are listening to" playlists. Feels like a throwback to 70's mainstream AM US pop, all buttermilk flavor.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 24 September 2020 17:57 (ten months ago) link

Nice song & performance, IMO:

Charlotte Lawrence - Slow Motion (Johan Lenox Version)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCLBQCGf9xQ

I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Friday, 2 October 2020 22:54 (ten months ago) link

Not even sure where this new Beabadoobee album goes, here or indie pop or what, but it's good!

If only we had a category for "Not Pop"/"Not Indie". Something starting with the letter S.

MarkoP, Friday, 16 October 2020 17:43 (nine months ago) link

She’s legit pop, in terms of streaming/TikTok success, but for my money her lyrics keep her in the “Rolling Worst Music” threads.

Guitar Dick (morrisp), Friday, 16 October 2020 20:55 (nine months ago) link

i like her song "care" that i guess is on the album

dyl, Saturday, 17 October 2020 03:33 (nine months ago) link

I think this is a nice, sophisticated track (I particularly like the little horn stabs):

Rudimental - Come Over (feat. Anne-Marie & Tion Wayne)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN0iPfZUkUA

bagel in the streets, donut in the sheets (morrisp), Monday, 19 October 2020 22:17 (nine months ago) link

I don't know who this zoomer doofus is, but his stuff is pretty catchy:

Role Model - Going Out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufoLLZN-hZw

Role Model - Blind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh2b-17zhp8

bagel in the streets, donut in the sheets (morrisp), Monday, 19 October 2020 22:49 (nine months ago) link

five months pass...

dissing Gibbs and Eilish as "zero calorie" not helping make a very compelling case there (second link)

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Monday, 29 March 2021 16:36 (four months ago) link

I...hadn't checked the first link yet obviously

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Monday, 29 March 2021 16:37 (four months ago) link

I’ve tried to keep my ears open, but the most notable pop song I’ve heard so far this year (“Driver’s License”) already has its own thread. Would be great to get tipped to some other good ones, though.

beer drops on my keytar (morrisp), Monday, 29 March 2021 16:54 (four months ago) link

lol yeah it's almost april and i still haven't heard any pop songs that i found particularly good or noteworthy that didn't already have their own thread ;_; 'pop' music truly is dead y'all

i'm currently fairly obsessed w/ kali uchis "telepatía" -- the tik tok kids are right sometimes! lil nas x song also pretty good but obviously that's already generating abundant discussion on his thread

but yeah anyone pls feel free to start a thread for 2021 and/or share some good stuff! or we can just keep talking here about how slim the pickings are recently lol

dyl, Monday, 29 March 2021 17:50 (four months ago) link

if I may be so bold to recommend: Eurovision 2020 (now featuring Eurovision 2021)

the yearly fix for my sweet pop tooth

Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Monday, 29 March 2021 20:32 (four months ago) link

three months pass...

kinda into this?

The Kid Laroi, Justin Bieber - "Stay"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTJczUoc26U

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 13 July 2021 03:00 (three weeks ago) link

desperately needs a garage remix?

ufo, Tuesday, 13 July 2021 03:15 (three weeks ago) link

charlie puth & cashmere cat co prod/wrote so it had a chance at being good. i like it ok but it left me a bit cold, idk could be more dynamic melodically or something

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 July 2021 18:35 (three weeks ago) link


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