Ariana Grande - AG4 (2018 album)

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It's coming! -- http://variety.com/2018/music/news/ariana-grande-to-drop-first-single-from-new-album-on-april-27-1202747183/

She's also been posting little teasers on Instagram since the New Year.

I got heavily into her music around a year ago -- I've listened to her three albums exhaustively & repeatedly, sometimes on constant rotation (I also saw the tour). To say I am excited about the new one would be an understatement!

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 21:52 (five months ago) Permalink

I can't forgive her for licking those donuts.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 9 April 2018 23:07 (five months ago) Permalink

LOL - I hear you, man...

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 23:41 (five months ago) Permalink

is the stan twitter abbreviation for the album title necessary

dyl, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 00:16 (five months ago) Permalink

Yes, it's the official Arianator designation (my hands are tied)!

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 00:23 (five months ago) Permalink

(I am world's loneliest 40-something Arianator bro)

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 00:26 (five months ago) Permalink

While I've loved a lot of her music, I've never gotten a sense of who she actually is from it. Both the hilarious donut-licking situation and the way she dealt with Manchester show someone with a lot more to offer the world than vocal acrobatics over generic (albeit excellent) pop production and I hope this is the time where she finally shows she's more than just a big voice and high ponytail.

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 09:17 (five months ago) Permalink

Based on what folks involved are saying, sounds like you may get your wish! (see the quotes in this collection: https://twitter.com/i/moments/958089091442184194)

Btw – apparently the single and/or album are rumored to be titled “No Tears Left to Cry.”

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Sunday, 15 April 2018 04:35 (five months ago) Permalink

One of her core strengths is her impeccable taste in material – IMO, there isn’t a “bad” song on her three main albums (including the bonus tracks on the Target Deluxe Editions). ...And, of course, many/most of the tracks are just fantastic.

So if she has been working a long time on winnowing down a bunch of new songs to the strongest possible 10-track album (as she says in one of those quotes), that speaks volumes about the expected quality!

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Sunday, 15 April 2018 05:34 (five months ago) Permalink

FYI - this single is now rumored to drop this Friday (4/20).

- stan the man

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 00:18 (five months ago) Permalink

she’s the best and I’m honestly really excited about hearing her new stuff

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 00:31 (five months ago) Permalink

Love this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffxKSjUwKdU

kitchen person, Friday, 20 April 2018 04:37 (five months ago) Permalink

It doesn't sound like "Toxic," but it reminds me of "Toxic" in that it's got a totally bizarre structure for a 21st century pop single.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 20 April 2018 04:42 (five months ago) Permalink

It’s got a really distinctive sound. I can see this breaking up the flow of my average top40 radio session in the car very nicely (though it’s a little less packed with incident than I prefer for my big Pop Artist Rollout Singles) - certainly it’s a vastly better start to this album campaign than the title track of “Dangerous Woman” was.
Speaking of which, very clever of Camp Ariana to pivot from three straight albums of understated, black-and-white artwork with a polite, black-and-white cover that has a prismatic dash of rainbow across Ariana’s face. Says a lot without having to change a lot.

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Friday, 20 April 2018 04:58 (five months ago) Permalink

i like this but it feels weird, i keep expecting it to really kick in at some point ie go harder with the breakbeat but it never does

ufo, Friday, 20 April 2018 05:00 (five months ago) Permalink

The chorus is elegant, massive! (Also, is that a drum’n’bass beat(!)? Almost?)

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Friday, 20 April 2018 05:01 (five months ago) Permalink

xpost yeah, it’s sort of a deconstructed anthem

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Friday, 20 April 2018 05:02 (five months ago) Permalink

xp yeah it almost is but there's a few kicks missing, it's a strange feeling

ufo, Friday, 20 April 2018 05:03 (five months ago) Permalink

Like it gestures at being a club floor-filler but the vocal hook keeps tugging it back to earth

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Friday, 20 April 2018 05:05 (five months ago) Permalink

A lock for Top 40 that sounds good and different. More of these please.

billstevejim, Friday, 20 April 2018 06:10 (five months ago) Permalink

Yeah this is really good. surprised that they didn't go more anthemic on the chorus, like a usual single would - it's mostly just her lead vocal instead of the usual barrage of fuller synths, harder drums, and backing vocals - but the change is really refreshing

Vinnie, Friday, 20 April 2018 06:34 (five months ago) Permalink

I almost love this but her diction is noticeably poor in the verses. I wouldn't say this sounds wildly different to what was in the UK top ten a few years ago but it suits her.

The part in the video where she takes her face off is really creepy!

boxedjoy, Friday, 20 April 2018 09:03 (five months ago) Permalink

this is absolutely :)

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 April 2018 11:17 (five months ago) Permalink

i don't fucking care she is on fire

you're my luger not my rifle (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 April 2018 11:22 (five months ago) Permalink

I think the DnB beat is reminiscent of early 00s pop, something that's almost completely gone now. JF, maybe this is part of why it reminds you of Toxic?

daavid, Friday, 20 April 2018 14:28 (five months ago) Permalink

Not a huge fan of the video. Kind of lazy references to Blade Runner and Inception. I liked the bit with the umbrellas, though.

daavid, Friday, 20 April 2018 14:33 (five months ago) Permalink

yeah the video's a bit off, especially the weirdly lax lip syncing.

Simon H., Friday, 20 April 2018 14:40 (five months ago) Permalink

FUCK OFF

Cortez the Self-Harmer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 April 2018 14:44 (five months ago) Permalink

when she's caught in that starry spider's web it's like some Skyrim thing i'm on it

Cortez the Self-Harmer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 April 2018 14:45 (five months ago) Permalink

this song is fantastic

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 20 April 2018 14:59 (five months ago) Permalink

I don’t hear anything particularly like « Toxic » but it does have a Britney something at times.
Also the does sound a bit understated. It could bang a bit more. And have some stronger eurodance synth pads.
That said it’s a pretty good track !

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 20 April 2018 15:17 (five months ago) Permalink

The beat does sound understated

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 20 April 2018 15:18 (five months ago) Permalink

my onnnnnly issue is her vocal production on the chorus, otherwise it's beautiful!

surm, Friday, 20 April 2018 15:19 (five months ago) Permalink

I think it reminds me more of Britney’s « Break the ice » actually ! Still such a brilliant track btw...

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 20 April 2018 15:27 (five months ago) Permalink

umm break the ice is the closest pop equivalent to Mozart i've heard in a long time btw

surm, Friday, 20 April 2018 15:28 (five months ago) Permalink

never forget.

surm, Friday, 20 April 2018 15:28 (five months ago) Permalink

“we’re on another mentality”

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Friday, 20 April 2018 15:34 (five months ago) Permalink

Just played it 3 times on the bounce on teh bus. Amazing

i know kore-eda (or something), Friday, 20 April 2018 15:35 (five months ago) Permalink

It’s a full-length song that almost feels too short (in a good way, leaves you wanting more). Feels like it could keep rolling several more minutes as it builds and then suddenly stops.

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Friday, 20 April 2018 15:36 (five months ago) Permalink

Kind of a false ending but that's another one of its multiple virtues

Cortez the Self-Harmer (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 April 2018 00:22 (four months ago) Permalink

i dig it. reminds me a little of 1 thing by amerie but in a lower register

you bet, nancy (map), Saturday, 21 April 2018 00:55 (four months ago) Permalink

this one's going to be about the remixes imo

you bet, nancy (map), Saturday, 21 April 2018 00:56 (four months ago) Permalink

it's going to be a huge club anthem

you bet, nancy (map), Saturday, 21 April 2018 00:57 (four months ago) Permalink

^^^^

Cortez the Self-Harmer (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 April 2018 01:23 (four months ago) Permalink

one of her best songs so far. agreed re: its remix potential

dyl, Saturday, 21 April 2018 01:32 (four months ago) Permalink

this is really cool. her last few lead singles have been very broad/obvious, and this one goes to some unexpected places

J0rdan S., Saturday, 21 April 2018 02:46 (four months ago) Permalink

I specifically said above that it doesn't sound like "Toxic" at all, but that it calls "Toxic" to mind in that it's a really ambitious and left field approach to what will ostensibly be a hit to some degree. iow we are now officially in the Ariana empirical phase.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 21 April 2018 03:16 (four months ago) Permalink

Stupid phone. *imperial

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 21 April 2018 03:17 (four months ago) Permalink

Actually I think it sounds like a (very good) demo !
There’s something unfinished about it.

AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 21 April 2018 03:18 (four months ago) Permalink

R.E.M. is top hole.

piscesx, Sunday, 19 August 2018 01:47 (one month ago) Permalink

uh, gross

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Sunday, 19 August 2018 02:26 (one month ago) Permalink

If I were pressed to say something negative about this album, I would say: (a) it may have been a bit overhyped for what turned out to be a very strong but also somewhat light & “modest” release; and (b) a few tracks, while good, lack a certain “Ariana-ness”... which makes the album feel like maybe a bit less of a “fan classic” than her prior three.

But some of the tracks are among her best ever!

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Sunday, 19 August 2018 20:16 (one month ago) Permalink

I also think Dangerous Woman was a tour de force, musically — with the deep house elements throughout, the majesty of the final two tracks, etc. — and the other two albums had very distinctive musical settings, as well (on a track-by-track basis, in the case of My Everything). And that may not be quite so much the case with the new one (...though I will see what I think after listening loudly & closely a few more dozen times).

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Sunday, 19 August 2018 21:10 (one month ago) Permalink

I ❤️ how “R.E.M.” alludes, in a subtle & sophisticated way, to “Mr. Sandman” by the Chordettes

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Sunday, 19 August 2018 21:46 (one month ago) Permalink

“Breathin’” is #1 on U.S. iTunes... this song will be huge when released as a single.

*braces for threadban due to multiple revives*

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Monday, 20 August 2018 04:01 (one month ago) Permalink

pharrell adlibs on the title track are really unnecessary but i like the song itself a lot. it doesn't remind me directly of frank's "pink + white" but it deeply reminds me of when rtc compared that song to scritti politti

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 20 August 2018 14:57 (one month ago) Permalink

“Get Well Soon” is another super classy and sophisticated song that feels like an immediate classic... it’s gonna be a showstopper in live performances.

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Monday, 20 August 2018 16:02 (one month ago) Permalink

^endorse the last 4 posts.

I'll throw in "Successful" (not sure what's going on with the lyrics here btw, the perspective keeps changing) and "Goodnight n go" as the other keepers from the album.

Jeff W, Monday, 20 August 2018 17:42 (one month ago) Permalink

Breathin is my favourite thing she's ever done. I wonder how often it is that an iTunes number 1 is an unhyped album track (track 9!) as opposed to you know, the pre-release track or the one with a big guest star name rapper or whatever. Maybe it happens more than I think it does but it feels rare.

piscesx, Monday, 20 August 2018 18:56 (one month ago) Permalink

(In My Feelings kinda did the same maybe.)

piscesx, Monday, 20 August 2018 18:57 (one month ago) Permalink

re: "Successful" -- there's something about the "Does it give you chills? Does it make you feel... cold?" bit at the end of the bridge of that feels like maybe a nod to Prince(?)

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Monday, 20 August 2018 19:01 (one month ago) Permalink

"Breathin'" is such a big, wonderful, '80s-style club smash. The way the beat kicks in after a few measures of the chorus just kills me

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Monday, 20 August 2018 19:06 (one month ago) Permalink

more like "sucksessful"

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 20 August 2018 19:38 (one month ago) Permalink

i can't decide if i like "successful" or not.... that rinky dink ass 02 era neptunes synth... idk

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 August 2018 20:13 (one month ago) Permalink

it's grown on me

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Monday, 20 August 2018 20:17 (one month ago) Permalink

bubble pop electric is a great song and has the benefit of not making me listen to a tea partier yell at me constantly

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 20 August 2018 21:15 (one month ago) Permalink

I was listening to Britney's Glory on my way to work this morning. I kind of feel like there's some songs on Sweetener that aim to be quirky and breezy in the same that Glory was, but just don't quite get there.

The album has grown on me a bit, but I'm still struggling with most of the Pharrell songs. The Light Is Coming, Sweetener, Successful and Borderline in particular are the worst offenders.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 02:05 (four weeks ago) Permalink

when Pharrell deals you beats, makes the music sound like it is salt / listen to the album again even louder, to bring the bitter taste to a halt

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 02:34 (four weeks ago) Permalink

and (b) a few tracks, while good, lack a certain “Ariana-ness”...

― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Sunday, August 19, 2018 1:16 PM


That’s an interesting point, morrisp... What this largely boils down to, IMHO — besides the fact that she sings in her lower register a lot on this album — is that her vocals tend to be recorded with an uncharacteristic reverb. Neither of these things are bad, of course; they’re just a left turn, a stylistic change. And change is good!

But it’s also why the relatively dry treatment of her lead vocal line in “Get Well Soon,” coming at the end of the album, is so refreshing — it feels like a visit from “classic Ariana.” I bet this was intentional!

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 01:42 (four weeks ago) Permalink

i really like almost all of this, actually. definitely a grower, but she uses the pharrell stuff to a really good effect imo—even on the light is coming, which is probably the one i still resist the most. i think it's interesting how she mostly (with the exception of the big singles and breathin) eschewed Big Pop to aim for something a lot more subdued? reminds me of Anti, less sonically than in structure and intentionality. probably not as *good* as Anti, which is a decade-defining album to me, but i really appreciate the way it performs intimacy and casualness.

austinb, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 02:33 (four weeks ago) Permalink

She has some interesting things to say at the beginning of this interview about her approach to the vocals on this album: https://youtu.be/PviZLT7HPys

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 03:46 (four weeks ago) Permalink

I don’t know much about her but I like the album so far. Even the Pharrell tracks !
Actually I find the title track - which most seem to hate - pretty catchy, especially the chorus.
Thinking about Pharrell I’m not sure there was ever another producer still making big hits/working with big « young » acts 20+ years into their career ?

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 19:00 (four weeks ago) Permalink

well there's max martin who also worked on this album

ufo, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 19:02 (four weeks ago) Permalink

I thought of Rick Rubin too, in another field but still successful !

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 19:07 (four weeks ago) Permalink

« Better Off » is so sweet and smooth. Might be my favorite track so far

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 19:12 (four weeks ago) Permalink

“Goodnight n go” deserves a Grammy® for all involved

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Thursday, 23 August 2018 01:21 (four weeks ago) Permalink

This album will presumably square off with Reputation at the Grammys™

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Thursday, 23 August 2018 01:26 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Ariana has had 4 Grammy noms, but 0 wins. If nothing else, “NTLTC” deserves Record of the Year

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Thursday, 23 August 2018 01:49 (four weeks ago) Permalink

(But what do I know — I’m just a guy who thinks the “Oh, baby!” coming out of the bridge of “Break Free” is the greatest pop moment of the decade.)

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Thursday, 23 August 2018 02:02 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Enjoying this album a lot. To my ears "Get Well Soon" sounds quite a bit like King.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 23 August 2018 10:47 (four weeks ago) Permalink

well there's max martin who also worked on this album

― ufo, Wednesday, August 22, 2018 3:02 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not just max martin but his colleagues -- savan kotecha, rami yacoub, etc.

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 23 August 2018 14:10 (four weeks ago) Permalink

I don’t love the swell of strings that closes “Better Off” (they’re a tad schmaltzy?) — but it’s cool how the strings return at the end of “Pete Davidson,” a few tracks later; tying together the breakup song and the new-love song.

—“Get a Blog” Jones

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Thursday, 23 August 2018 14:16 (four weeks ago) Permalink

this album is fantastic but does anyone know why she starts singing the doug funnie theme song towards the end of "goodnight n go"

No organ. (crüt), Friday, 24 August 2018 18:51 (three weeks ago) Permalink

if only we could excise the town hall sample from "light is coming" and Pharrell saying "sheesh" over and over again on "sweetener" then I'd be closer to getting on board the bandwagon.

evol j, Friday, 24 August 2018 19:46 (three weeks ago) Permalink

The town hall sample no longer bothers me, somehow (I could even swear it’s slightly lower in the mix than in the prerelease version, but that may be nonsense). Anyway, I enjoy “TLIC” a lot more in the context of the album!

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Friday, 24 August 2018 22:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I’m still listening to this everyday.

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 01:42 (three weeks ago) Permalink

can’t stop, so shut yo mouth

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 01:42 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Four iconic albums. 4-0.

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 02:41 (three weeks ago) Permalink

an (ex)acquaintance of mine said her voice wasn't great and i just had to walk away in shame

Ross, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 03:02 (three weeks ago) Permalink

yeah, one of my favourite albums atm.
it sounds more low key and personal than her previous stuff to me.

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 08:54 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i saw some tv award show performance of "no tears left to cry" where she was introduced as the voice of her generation and one of the greatest vocalists ever and honestly my thought (esp after listening to her good-not-great vocal during the performance) is that her vocal ability is way overhyped. i mean we live in an age where adele is assumed to be an excellent singer based mostly on her aesthetic so yeah i guess there should be no surprises.

dyl, Thursday, 30 August 2018 02:56 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i start the album at ‘rem’ and play it through from there, so good

flopson, Thursday, 30 August 2018 19:23 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Love this

Light is coming has that plunderphonics vibe with the burbling whistle synth fx

Title track kills my vibe tho

Ross, Monday, 17 September 2018 15:57 (three days ago) Permalink

Looks like the new tour won’t be happening in the near term:

According to her team, @ArianaGrande will be taking some time off given recent events: “She will be staying close to home and using this period to spend time with her loved ones and work on new music without deadline. She thanks her fans for their understanding.” 🖤 pic.twitter.com/TK8wkDHJRy

— Ariana Grande Today (@ArianaToday) September 18, 2018

growing up in publix (morrisp), Thursday, 20 September 2018 02:27 (three hours ago) Permalink

I love the second half of this album.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 September 2018 02:30 (three hours ago) Permalink

Yep.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 20 September 2018 02:31 (three hours ago) Permalink

Bought this on iTunes and it cut no tears from the album and put it as a separate single. Have to playlist it but album is growing on me

Ross, Thursday, 20 September 2018 05:27 (twenty-eight minutes ago) Permalink

Light is coming reminds me of light works by dilla a lot

Ross, Thursday, 20 September 2018 05:34 (twenty-one minutes ago) Permalink


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