Ariana Grande - "Thank U, Next" (the album)

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By (sort of) popular demand -- and b/c the "AG4" thread is getting really long -- here's a thread for the new album, out Feb. 8:

https://284fc2d5f6f33a52cd9f-ce476c3c56a27f320262daffab84f1af.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com/artwork_5c4a16888361b_AGRANDE_ThankUNextdigitalcover_3000x3000_5c4a1688a8f7a.jpg

Lots of info here, including track list / credits: https://arianagrande.fandom.com/wiki/Thank_U,_Next_(album)

Interesting to see that the usual songwriting crew is all up in it, including Max/Ilya (it came together so quickly, I had assumed maybe the Swedes weren't involved this time). The songs are said to be highly personal (as with Sweetener).

It's obv. unusual for an artist to release a new album less than six months after the last one... She's really rolling, and also at sort of a career high point at the moment. Of course, three of the songs have already been released, two of which are excellent!

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 25 January 2019 20:56 (three weeks ago) Permalink

expecting "bloodline" will kick ass

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2019 20:59 (three weeks ago) Permalink

.@ArianaGrande’s “thank u, next” and @MariahCarey’s “Daydream” are the only female albums to have multiple singles debut at No. 1 on the Hot 100 ⚡️ pic.twitter.com/ZA4LHzoGhE

— Ariana Grande Today (@ArianaToday) January 28, 2019

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 28 January 2019 15:34 (two weeks ago) Permalink

...apparently Britney achieved it, too. A little more chart trivia:

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8495202/ariana-grande-7-rings-hot-100-number-one-debut

In the Hot 100's history, Grande is the first artist whose first two No. 1s have both debuted at the pinnacle.

(Before "Next" and "Rings," no female artist had entered atop the Hot 100 since Adele with "Hello" in November 2015; seven songs then started at No. 1 until "Next.")

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 28 January 2019 19:00 (two weeks ago) Permalink

brit's #1 debuts weren't from the same album

dyl, Monday, 28 January 2019 19:30 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Ah

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 28 January 2019 19:31 (two weeks ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkxbLygu9nI

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 05:25 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Feel like the accomplishment of debuting at #1 these days is in large part about whether you can instantly command social-media attention and YouTube eyeballs. "Thank U, Next" and "7 Rings" were both Trending Topics as soon as they were released.

jaymc, Friday, 1 February 2019 05:34 (two weeks ago) Permalink

^ should become the definitive version of that song

dyl, Friday, 1 February 2019 06:06 (two weeks ago) Permalink

(i understand if i am banished from this thread after what i said elsewhere)

dyl, Friday, 1 February 2019 06:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Nah, it's all good! Just show us yr palm tattoo -- that's the ticket back in ;)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 06:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

(sorry if I was harsh on that other thread, actually)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 06:12 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I still don’t care for “7 Rings” all that much — mainly b/c it recycles an overly familiar melody, and has some weak lyrics — but my hope/expectation is that it will turn out to be an anomaly in the context of the album (e.g., none of the other song credits include Rodgers & Hammerstein).

AG’s only truly weak album track until
now, for my frequent-listening dollars, is “Daydreamin’” (what do you even call that particular style? “‘Happy Birthday, Mr. President’ burlesque”?); so she was probably due for another. Naturally, I am happy for the single’s success, its chart achievements, etc.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 06:59 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I usually hate the recycled melody trick - All Saints's "Never Ever" always rubs me wrong - but I don't hate "7 Rings". It'll be fine as an album track.

Brex Avery (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 February 2019 10:35 (two weeks ago) Permalink

xp yeah, sorry to be preachy

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 1 February 2019 11:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I do prefer the 2 Chainz remix, fwiw

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 18:46 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Ugh of course “7 rings” made it to #1 on the charts. Closing this decade with disgusting singles seems apt I guess.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 2 February 2019 20:40 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i’ll give y’all a million to get off my nuts https://t.co/7yMyP0eHtt

— Ariana Grande (@ArianaGrande) February 2, 2019

i stan corrected (morrisp), Saturday, 2 February 2019 20:53 (two weeks ago) Permalink

otm

Brex Avery (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 February 2019 21:18 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Why have I not been following her??

slack thompson (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 2 February 2019 21:27 (two weeks ago) Permalink

that tattoo situation is v unfortunate tho

hopefully by now everyone should know that you should never get a tattoo of a script that you don't know how to read

dyl, Saturday, 2 February 2019 21:40 (two weeks ago) Permalink

she is now tweeting about the 'appropriation'/'appreciation' dichotomy but specifically in relation to this tattoo and not, like, her entire image for this album cycle so far wrt black culture

dyl, Saturday, 2 February 2019 21:42 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Not sure about “album cycle”; I think the issues have mainly come up with “7 Rings” and its video. She briefly tried to address one of the criticisms (re: hair), I can point you to Instagram post if you’re really interested.

My hope/expectation is she will course correct if necessary... she seems generally open to learning from comments/criticism.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Saturday, 2 February 2019 22:39 (two weeks ago) Permalink

that is a great tweet

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 3 February 2019 20:08 (one week ago) Permalink

Totally
Also this girl is really converting haters left and right liiikkke I haven't seen the likes of this ever
She's right to ride that roll

surm, Monday, 4 February 2019 03:39 (one week ago) Permalink

In the runup to album release -- a quick post highlighting Tayla Parx, one of its main contributors (she worked on five songs, including the title track), and who also has a ton of other high-profile songwriting credits: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tayla_Parx

...plus some really good singles under her own name: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXR82zHJ6FuWccQQqxtNHyw

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 23:20 (one week ago) Permalink

yes for sure, i was a fan of "slow dancing" last year. didn't realize she had released more since then!

dyl, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 04:52 (one week ago) Permalink

oh dang, just got to "me vs. us". hope tayla blows up

dyl, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 06:08 (one week ago) Permalink

i forgot she was among the "pynk" writers

dyl, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 06:20 (one week ago) Permalink

album has leaked and... it's only ok?

sean gramophone, Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:29 (one week ago) Permalink

it's good, more consistent than Sweetener. I'm in love with "Break Up With Your Girlfriend, I'm Bored."

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:30 (one week ago) Permalink

I've been waiting for someone to write what I've long thought.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:30 (one week ago) Permalink

Can't wait to hear it... (unfortunately, I may not get a chance to really dive in until early next week).

i stan corrected (morrisp), Thursday, 7 February 2019 20:58 (one week ago) Permalink

As opppsed to my teen daughter, I've been enjoying her latest singles.

nathom, Thursday, 7 February 2019 21:42 (one week ago) Permalink

I'm seeing a few ways to read that sentence

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 7 February 2019 22:14 (one week ago) Permalink

AG just fired off a nice series of tweets regarding the Grammys brouhaha.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Thursday, 7 February 2019 22:16 (one week ago) Permalink

i liked those tweets too. it's the sort of thing that reminds me that hey, these silly awards ceremonies won't be around forever and may in fact collapse under their own self-importance far earlier than we think

dyl, Friday, 8 February 2019 02:54 (one week ago) Permalink

Another in a long series of hella cheezy videos... (the song's a banger, tho)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH4Y1ZUUx2g

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:19 (one week ago) Permalink

(sounds a little like something from Reputation, in a few spots)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:22 (one week ago) Permalink

Previewing the album now... "Needy" is pure AG/Brown/Monét/Parx greatness!

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:27 (one week ago) Permalink

"NASA" is perfect, damn

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:30 (one week ago) Permalink

"Bloodline" swings

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:33 (one week ago) Permalink

(Her songs never sound anything like I expect them to, based on the titles alone... guess that's a somewhat trivial observation.)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:35 (one week ago) Permalink

"Fake Smile" is excellent... I don't recognize any of the other credited songwriters on this track? (two of them are via the sample that kicks it off; Wendy Rene's "After Laughter (Comes Tears)")

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:39 (one week ago) Permalink

"Bad Idea" = very Max/Savan/Ilya. Their traxx tend not to feel as "personal" to AG and her style as the ones she records w/Tommy et al., but they do tend to be effective bangers.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:42 (one week ago) Permalink

(...cool outro, too)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:42 (one week ago) Permalink

Luv "Make Up"... another light, swinging, tropical-feeling groove (damn, it's over already?)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:45 (one week ago) Permalink

This album feels, in the best possible way, like it was written & recorded quickly -- from inspiration to studio to wax, with little time for second-guessing or "overworking."

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:48 (one week ago) Permalink

"Ghostin" is dreamy

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:49 (one week ago) Permalink

Apparently this is dude whose vocal snippet kicks off "In My Head": https://www.bustle.com/p/who-is-doug-middlebrook-ariana-grandes-best-friend-has-been-by-her-side-for-years-photos-15519590

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:51 (one week ago) Permalink

(I, too, have been described in the press as "An Instagram influencer and Grande's best friend.")

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:52 (one week ago) Permalink

(skipping the next few traxx which I've already heard 100 times...) that brings us back to "BUWYG,IB"

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:56 (one week ago) Permalink

great stuff, man

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:56 (one week ago) Permalink

yuh yuh

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:56 (one week ago) Permalink

apart from the dreadful "7 rings" this album is very very solid and might be her best front-to-back even if it doesn't reach the same highs as dangerous woman. the sequencing is a bit odd though, the last few tracks are a very strange closing sequence

ufo, Friday, 8 February 2019 07:13 (one week ago) Permalink

I have only listened to half of it so far.
"NASA" and "Fake Smile" stand out (although the use of the same sample as the Wu Tang's "Tears" on fake smile is disturbing).

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 8 February 2019 09:16 (one week ago) Permalink

"ghostin" is a classic. took my breath away

monotony, Friday, 8 February 2019 10:36 (one week ago) Permalink

i love the weird rhythms in "make up"

ufo, Friday, 8 February 2019 10:56 (one week ago) Permalink

"Fake Smile" kicks off with the same sample as Tearz by Wu-Tang from their first album, which gives it this double-take moment at the beginning, where you think maybe your shuffle kicked in.
Great track otherwise -- the sample works well behind the chorus.

enochroot, Friday, 8 February 2019 12:21 (one week ago) Permalink

Oops, looks like someone already made that same observation a few hours ago :)

enochroot, Friday, 8 February 2019 12:22 (one week ago) Permalink

the sequencing is a bit odd though, the last few tracks are a very strange closing sequence

Agreed... wonder if it would feel the same way if two of those songs hadn’t already been released(?)

Either way, they clearly made a deliberate move (whether “successfully” or not) to not do the expected thing there.

yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 14:33 (one week ago) Permalink

(Has there ever been an album that sequences the first three singles as the final three tracks??)

yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 14:45 (one week ago) Permalink

wasn’t feeling this on first pass :/

||||||||, Friday, 8 February 2019 17:31 (one week ago) Permalink

same

marcos smart (Spottie), Friday, 8 February 2019 17:35 (one week ago) Permalink

i think it’s funny. i liked the idea of ending a more honest n vulnerable project and with like a punchline. https://t.co/eH2XYA35qR

— Ariana Grande (@ArianaGrande) February 8, 2019

yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 19:24 (one week ago) Permalink

not a good punchline. Gonna spin the whole thing now tho.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 8 February 2019 19:50 (one week ago) Permalink

Wonder who this shade is directed at?

The entire process of creating this album was incredible & when it came down to business things were handled more than fair. So much in fact that we gave credit to people who didn’t even write the songs ..instead of being a sour grape you should’ve said thank u.... next.

— TAYLA PARX (@TAYLAPARX) February 8, 2019

yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 21:01 (one week ago) Permalink

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dy6Q4jZWwAM0-mb.jpg

piscesx, Friday, 8 February 2019 22:17 (one week ago) Permalink

Ah, thx

yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 22:41 (one week ago) Permalink

Very good listen, this album.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 February 2019 23:44 (one week ago) Permalink

not sure how i feel about the whole thing but "bad idea" is the shit

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 February 2019 02:07 (one week ago) Permalink

"Bad Idea" = very Max/Savan/Ilya

lol i continue to love the exact same ariana grande banger over and over again

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 February 2019 02:08 (one week ago) Permalink

in addition to reminding me of all the good songs on dangerous woman it reminds me of early rihanna

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 February 2019 02:12 (one week ago) Permalink

"ghostin" is gorgeous

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 February 2019 02:16 (one week ago) Permalink

f*ck a fake smile

yuh yuh (morrisp), Saturday, 9 February 2019 07:09 (one week ago) Permalink

heard "break up with your boyfriend, i'm bored" via its video. i'd say it's an ample demonstration of the pitfalls of writing an entire song around an eye-catching title. haven't listened to the rest yet.

dyl, Saturday, 9 February 2019 15:41 (one week ago) Permalink

dyl, I think you will be pleased

yuh yuh (morrisp), Saturday, 9 February 2019 16:24 (one week ago) Permalink

Weirdly the hyped already-leaked/released songs are the least interesting; Needy, NASA, Fake Smile And Ghostin are all fantastic.

When was the last time 2 amazing pop albums were released so close together by the same artist?

piscesx, Saturday, 9 February 2019 17:24 (one week ago) Permalink

"When was the last time 2 amazing pop albums were released so close together by the same artist?"

Answer to that is 2017. Charli XCX POP 1 and POP 2

aguzman1990, Saturday, 9 February 2019 19:17 (one week ago) Permalink

"break up with your girlfriend" is easily one of the weakest tracks on here. idk why "ghostin" wasn't the closer

ufo, Saturday, 9 February 2019 23:13 (one week ago) Permalink

It would have been a somewhat downbeat / unresolved closer, IMO... anyway, her reasoning is in the tweet above (whether you agree with it or not).

yuh yuh (morrisp), Saturday, 9 February 2019 23:19 (one week ago) Permalink

It's a good song and a neat closer imho

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Saturday, 9 February 2019 23:23 (one week ago) Permalink

FYI, the title track was originally the closer, but she pulled a track called “Remember” (which was said to be about Mac), and added “Break Up...” at the end. This thread has the deets:

i added a fun one (lol) to replace one that i decided i don’t think wanna share w the world. so we back to twelve tracks. i appreciate u understanding in advance. 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤

— Ariana Grande (@ArianaGrande) January 13, 2019

yuh yuh (morrisp), Saturday, 9 February 2019 23:31 (one week ago) Permalink

If you have the interest & patience, there are some interesting/funny tidbits in this interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpl8v3jiuNU

(provided you can put up with the interviewer dude... I started seeing red by the 10th time he referred to an album track as a "record.")

yuh yuh (morrisp), Sunday, 10 February 2019 03:13 (six days ago) Permalink

A few highlights (so far):

* They recorded several different versions of the title track — including one that didn’t “name any names” at all — but it sounds like there was little doubt about going with the version with names.
* She begged Scooter to leave “Ghostin” off the album, but he insisted they keep it.

yuh yuh (morrisp), Sunday, 10 February 2019 03:29 (six days ago) Permalink

i'm never gonna say this again in my life but scooter braun otm

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 10 February 2019 03:44 (six days ago) Permalink

I know it's early days, but honestly I think Ghostin could be my favourite Ariana song. It's absolutely stunning.

Overall, this seems like a much stronger album than Sweetener, but still not quite in the same league as Dangerous Woman. Obviously I'm starting to think about how I could turn these latest two albums into the classic it could have been.

kitchen person, Sunday, 10 February 2019 05:18 (six days ago) Permalink

i've been trying to figure out a good sequence (probably consisting of thank u, next minus "7 rings" and "break up with your girlfriend" and adding "breathin", "everytime" and "no tears left to cry") but haven't come up with anything yet. can't believe ariana wanted to leave off "ghostin" it's so gorgeous

ufo, Sunday, 10 February 2019 05:30 (six days ago) Permalink

Getting rid of 7 Rings and adding those three Sweetener highlights was exactly where I was thinking of starting. I might keep Goodnight n Go and Better Off as well. I think they'd work quite well on there.

kitchen person, Sunday, 10 February 2019 05:39 (six days ago) Permalink

Might as well get the prediction in for Ghostin winning the tracks poll this time next year. I'll be shocked if I hear a better song all year.

kitchen person, Sunday, 10 February 2019 06:02 (six days ago) Permalink

yeah those are the other two i'm considering from Sweetener as well

ufo, Sunday, 10 February 2019 06:14 (six days ago) Permalink

Sry (/not sorry) for hyperbole, but the core songs here are just ridiculously great, on a “I can’t believe they did this” level... the opening three-track sequence is all-time!

yuh yuh (morrisp), Monday, 11 February 2019 04:03 (five days ago) Permalink

I don't hate "7 Rings". It'll be fine as an album track.

^This was a prescient comment, btw

yuh yuh (morrisp), Monday, 11 February 2019 04:09 (five days ago) Permalink

Gucci tennis shoes, running from your issues

yuh yuh (morrisp), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 05:41 (four days ago) Permalink

The way “NASA” ends — gracefully, casually, poignantly, in the middle of a verse — is just exquisite. (“Get Well Soon” did something similar.)

yuh yuh (morrisp), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 15:35 (four days ago) Permalink


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