Ariana Grande - "Thank U, Next" (the album)

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By (sort of) popular demand -- and b/c the "AG4" thread is getting really long -- here's a thread for the new album, out Feb. 8:

https://284fc2d5f6f33a52cd9f-ce476c3c56a27f320262daffab84f1af.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com/artwork_5c4a16888361b_AGRANDE_ThankUNextdigitalcover_3000x3000_5c4a1688a8f7a.jpg

Lots of info here, including track list / credits: https://arianagrande.fandom.com/wiki/Thank_U,_Next_(album)

Interesting to see that the usual songwriting crew is all up in it, including Max/Ilya (it came together so quickly, I had assumed maybe the Swedes weren't involved this time). The songs are said to be highly personal (as with Sweetener).

It's obv. unusual for an artist to release a new album less than six months after the last one... She's really rolling, and also at sort of a career high point at the moment. Of course, three of the songs have already been released, two of which are excellent!

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 25 January 2019 20:56 (nine months ago) link

expecting "bloodline" will kick ass

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2019 20:59 (nine months ago) link

.@ArianaGrande’s “thank u, next” and @MariahCarey’s “Daydream” are the only female albums to have multiple singles debut at No. 1 on the Hot 100 ⚡️ pic.twitter.com/ZA4LHzoGhE

— Ariana Grande Today (@ArianaToday) January 28, 2019

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 28 January 2019 15:34 (nine months ago) link

...apparently Britney achieved it, too. A little more chart trivia:

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8495202/ariana-grande-7-rings-hot-100-number-one-debut

In the Hot 100's history, Grande is the first artist whose first two No. 1s have both debuted at the pinnacle.

(Before "Next" and "Rings," no female artist had entered atop the Hot 100 since Adele with "Hello" in November 2015; seven songs then started at No. 1 until "Next.")

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 28 January 2019 19:00 (nine months ago) link

brit's #1 debuts weren't from the same album

dyl, Monday, 28 January 2019 19:30 (nine months ago) link

Ah

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 28 January 2019 19:31 (nine months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkxbLygu9nI

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 05:25 (nine months ago) link

Feel like the accomplishment of debuting at #1 these days is in large part about whether you can instantly command social-media attention and YouTube eyeballs. "Thank U, Next" and "7 Rings" were both Trending Topics as soon as they were released.

jaymc, Friday, 1 February 2019 05:34 (nine months ago) link

^ should become the definitive version of that song

dyl, Friday, 1 February 2019 06:06 (nine months ago) link

(i understand if i am banished from this thread after what i said elsewhere)

dyl, Friday, 1 February 2019 06:07 (nine months ago) link

Nah, it's all good! Just show us yr palm tattoo -- that's the ticket back in ;)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 06:11 (nine months ago) link

(sorry if I was harsh on that other thread, actually)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 06:12 (nine months ago) link

I still don’t care for “7 Rings” all that much — mainly b/c it recycles an overly familiar melody, and has some weak lyrics — but my hope/expectation is that it will turn out to be an anomaly in the context of the album (e.g., none of the other song credits include Rodgers & Hammerstein).

AG’s only truly weak album track until
now, for my frequent-listening dollars, is “Daydreamin’” (what do you even call that particular style? “‘Happy Birthday, Mr. President’ burlesque”?); so she was probably due for another. Naturally, I am happy for the single’s success, its chart achievements, etc.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 06:59 (nine months ago) link

I usually hate the recycled melody trick - All Saints's "Never Ever" always rubs me wrong - but I don't hate "7 Rings". It'll be fine as an album track.

Brex Avery (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 February 2019 10:35 (nine months ago) link

xp yeah, sorry to be preachy

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 1 February 2019 11:02 (nine months ago) link

I do prefer the 2 Chainz remix, fwiw

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 18:46 (nine months ago) link

Ugh of course “7 rings” made it to #1 on the charts. Closing this decade with disgusting singles seems apt I guess.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 2 February 2019 20:40 (nine months ago) link

i’ll give y’all a million to get off my nuts https://t.co/7yMyP0eHtt

— Ariana Grande (@ArianaGrande) February 2, 2019

i stan corrected (morrisp), Saturday, 2 February 2019 20:53 (nine months ago) link

otm

Brex Avery (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 February 2019 21:18 (nine months ago) link

Why have I not been following her??

slack thompson (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 2 February 2019 21:27 (nine months ago) link

that tattoo situation is v unfortunate tho

hopefully by now everyone should know that you should never get a tattoo of a script that you don't know how to read

dyl, Saturday, 2 February 2019 21:40 (nine months ago) link

she is now tweeting about the 'appropriation'/'appreciation' dichotomy but specifically in relation to this tattoo and not, like, her entire image for this album cycle so far wrt black culture

dyl, Saturday, 2 February 2019 21:42 (nine months ago) link

Not sure about “album cycle”; I think the issues have mainly come up with “7 Rings” and its video. She briefly tried to address one of the criticisms (re: hair), I can point you to Instagram post if you’re really interested.

My hope/expectation is she will course correct if necessary... she seems generally open to learning from comments/criticism.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Saturday, 2 February 2019 22:39 (nine months ago) link

that is a great tweet

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 3 February 2019 20:08 (nine months ago) link

Totally
Also this girl is really converting haters left and right liiikkke I haven't seen the likes of this ever
She's right to ride that roll

surm, Monday, 4 February 2019 03:39 (nine months ago) link

In the runup to album release -- a quick post highlighting Tayla Parx, one of its main contributors (she worked on five songs, including the title track), and who also has a ton of other high-profile songwriting credits: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tayla_Parx

...plus some really good singles under her own name: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXR82zHJ6FuWccQQqxtNHyw

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 23:20 (nine months ago) link

yes for sure, i was a fan of "slow dancing" last year. didn't realize she had released more since then!

dyl, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 04:52 (nine months ago) link

oh dang, just got to "me vs. us". hope tayla blows up

dyl, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 06:08 (nine months ago) link

i forgot she was among the "pynk" writers

dyl, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 06:20 (nine months ago) link

album has leaked and... it's only ok?

sean gramophone, Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:29 (nine months ago) link

it's good, more consistent than Sweetener. I'm in love with "Break Up With Your Girlfriend, I'm Bored."

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:30 (nine months ago) link

I've been waiting for someone to write what I've long thought.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:30 (nine months ago) link

Can't wait to hear it... (unfortunately, I may not get a chance to really dive in until early next week).

i stan corrected (morrisp), Thursday, 7 February 2019 20:58 (nine months ago) link

As opppsed to my teen daughter, I've been enjoying her latest singles.

nathom, Thursday, 7 February 2019 21:42 (nine months ago) link

I'm seeing a few ways to read that sentence

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 7 February 2019 22:14 (nine months ago) link

AG just fired off a nice series of tweets regarding the Grammys brouhaha.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Thursday, 7 February 2019 22:16 (nine months ago) link

i liked those tweets too. it's the sort of thing that reminds me that hey, these silly awards ceremonies won't be around forever and may in fact collapse under their own self-importance far earlier than we think

dyl, Friday, 8 February 2019 02:54 (nine months ago) link

Another in a long series of hella cheezy videos... (the song's a banger, tho)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH4Y1ZUUx2g

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:19 (nine months ago) link

(sounds a little like something from Reputation, in a few spots)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:22 (nine months ago) link

Previewing the album now... "Needy" is pure AG/Brown/Monét/Parx greatness!

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:27 (nine months ago) link

"NASA" is perfect, damn

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:30 (nine months ago) link

"Bloodline" swings

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:33 (nine months ago) link

(Her songs never sound anything like I expect them to, based on the titles alone... guess that's a somewhat trivial observation.)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:35 (nine months ago) link

"Fake Smile" is excellent... I don't recognize any of the other credited songwriters on this track? (two of them are via the sample that kicks it off; Wendy Rene's "After Laughter (Comes Tears)")

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:39 (nine months ago) link

"Bad Idea" = very Max/Savan/Ilya. Their traxx tend not to feel as "personal" to AG and her style as the ones she records w/Tommy et al., but they do tend to be effective bangers.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:42 (nine months ago) link

(...cool outro, too)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:42 (nine months ago) link

Luv "Make Up"... another light, swinging, tropical-feeling groove (damn, it's over already?)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:45 (nine months ago) link

This album feels, in the best possible way, like it was written & recorded quickly -- from inspiration to studio to wax, with little time for second-guessing or "overworking."

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:48 (nine months ago) link

"Ghostin" is dreamy

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:49 (nine months ago) link

No it's fresh and it rules!

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Monday, 1 April 2019 21:21 (seven months ago) link

xp (it's also "a thank you to them fans" -- so if you're not feeling it, wait for the next one!)

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Monday, 1 April 2019 21:23 (seven months ago) link

This is her greatest video... The song rules, the video rules, it’s all perfecto 👌

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 03:02 (seven months ago) link

ahah, it's a cute video (that reminds me of the videos I was making back in like 93 with my father's camcorder... except for the FX of course)and the song is fun but it's all pretty lightweight and anecdotal imo(and that's fine !).

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 08:23 (seven months ago) link

i might be a few week late but 'imagine' is incredible.

meaulnes, Sunday, 14 April 2019 22:00 (seven months ago) link

^yeah, it’s remarkable. I’m a little surprised it never got more attention (even after being released as a “promotional single” last fall, performed on TV, etc.)

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Sunday, 14 April 2019 22:52 (seven months ago) link

My copy of that 7” finally arrived (“Thank U, Next” b/w “Imagine”). I don’t normally buy redundant vinyl just on “collector/fan” impulse, but it feels like holding a perfect slice of history.

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Sunday, 14 April 2019 23:00 (seven months ago) link

Cracking set list last night at Coachella. No Bloodline though which is a surprise.
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/ariana-grande/2019/empire-polo-grounds-indio-ca-139329cd.html

piscesx, Monday, 15 April 2019 11:06 (seven months ago) link

rinsed this lp the past week. 'ghostin' is the most emotional cut of pop ive heard in the past ten years, fuck. the whole record's texturally gorgeous.

meaulnes, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 01:06 (seven months ago) link

Weirdly, Ariana Grande was one of the first people to know the details of this piece. I was catching up with a friend, in March, and she walked into his flat. Turns out they've known each other for fifteen years. We talked about Abu Hafs al-Mauritani's post-9/11 escape to Iran. https://t.co/s1T6G7H1WI

— Ben Taub (@bentaub91) April 20, 2019

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Sunday, 21 April 2019 02:09 (six months ago) link

two weeks pass...

I’m waiting in line to get into the venue for this show... there are ppl wearing literal Ariana Grande costumes in this crowd.

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 02:07 (six months ago) link

These are my peeps; preteen girls and their moms

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 02:10 (six months ago) link

I wasn't planning to give my impressions of the show, but since y'all keep asking...

It was pretty fantastic overall; her performance was outstanding. The peak of the set is a sustained string of old & new hits that had the crowd raging; the energy was insane (at least in my section). It takes a little while to build up to that... things start kind of slow (darkened stage, slower songs). In contrast to the Dangerous Woman Tour, the stage is almost totally bare, with no props etc.; just those big orbs and projections (which you've probably seen).

They cram a ton of songs into the set, drawing from all 5 albums -- and many of the songs are abbreviated, to accomplish this, but it doesn't feel rushed or like a "revue." I did think the flow was a little odd in some places, and a few arrangements didn't work so well ("No Tears Left to Cry," of all songs, was leaden). But the core stretch of the show was awesome, beyond satisfying. I kind of wish I had tickets to another tour date!

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Thursday, 9 May 2019 00:40 (six months ago) link

Oh, some of the choreography was a little corny, too... but in a sort of endearingly "casual" way. During a few costume-change breaks, the big screens play video clips of Ariana hamming it up as a kid. The whole show has a really down-to-earth, "among-friends" feel.

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Thursday, 9 May 2019 00:44 (six months ago) link

Nuts... Victoria showed up the 2nd night, and they did “Monopoly” >:|

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Thursday, 9 May 2019 04:54 (six months ago) link

four weeks pass...

i said it before but i have to say it again, ghostin is an incredibly powerful song...

meaulnes, Saturday, 8 June 2019 01:29 (five months ago) link

imagine for cut of the year, though. nobodys going to drop anything realer

meaulnes, Saturday, 8 June 2019 01:30 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

New track drops in a few hours

right ?
we wanted to make something uplifting that captures that feeling of being afraid to take the leap & trust, being afraid of being hurt or feeling like you won’t be enough for that person ... but also how it feels to have a crippling crush on someone. 🖤 #Boyfriendtonight https://t.co/IHQ3cRC9iy

— Ariana Grande (@ArianaGrande) August 2, 2019

the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Friday, 2 August 2019 02:04 (three months ago) link

Nice groove... sort of "thank u, next" pt 2 (same crew)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA862JDEoKs

the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Friday, 2 August 2019 04:32 (three months ago) link

The lyrics involve a very specific type of relationship situation, I like when a song goes for that.

60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Friday, 2 August 2019 04:44 (three months ago) link

It’s great ! Very catch and smooth. Perfect for the summer.

AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 3 August 2019 08:50 (three months ago) link

heard it on the radio. sounds like more of the same. is this supposed to be leading off a new project?

dyl, Saturday, 3 August 2019 20:57 (three months ago) link

No, it’s a one-off they made while on tour.

60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Saturday, 3 August 2019 23:07 (three months ago) link

Also (fwiw), just read that she and Mike from Social House (the first of two guys in the song) have reportedly started dating.

60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Saturday, 3 August 2019 23:48 (three months ago) link

(I wouldn’t normally mention that or care, but I guess it’s relevant/interesting to the extent the song may reflect the actual contours of their relationship)

60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Sunday, 4 August 2019 02:12 (three months ago) link

four weeks pass...

technically speaking none of this says there isn't live autotune

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Sunday, 1 September 2019 12:41 (two months ago) link

I think the “naw” covers it — but judge for yrself: http://instagr.am/p/B1z5-g2Fl6i/?igshid=6k16bsnrjy6n

Sorry to clutter yr watchlist with my junk (morrisp), Sunday, 1 September 2019 15:25 (two months ago) link

Some of the best proof that she can cut it live, and *how* is this from Ellen, she almost falls off the chair and utters a panicked 'OHMYGOD!' before regaining composure, carrying on, getting a fit of the giggles, calming down, then occasionally giggling some more every time she catches sight of one of her dancers, then they all float up the staircase.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX_vx_s6Gr0

piscesx, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 18:47 (two months ago) link

That reminds me I have watched a youtube video about AG hitting a specific note in one song with clips from ALL the dates of the tour... it's like +10min of the same moment of one song on every night of the tour... I don't know how and why I went through that but that was actually quite hypnotic (and an evidence that she sings for real on tour !).

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:52 (two months ago) link

It was this !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8Lm-J9BA_U

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 10:55 (two months ago) link

F5 G5 F5
G5 F5

One more cup of yogurt for the road (morrisp), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 20:22 (two months ago) link

Btw, I have a ticket to the final (added) show of the tour, at the Forum on Dec. 22. That will be two Ariana Grande shows in one year!

#YABASIC (morrisp), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 20:28 (two months ago) link

It’s no “Bang Bang,” but it’s a good jam:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leopt__ATR0

#YABASIC (morrisp), Friday, 13 September 2019 05:09 (two months ago) link

Don’t know where Wikipedia got this info, I can’t find it anywhere else, but:

Songwriter(s)
Alma-Sofia Miettinen
Savan Kotecha
Miley Cyrus
Lana Del Rey
Max Martin
Ariana Grande
Ilya Salmanzadeh

Producer(s)
Ilya
Max Martin

#YABASIC (morrisp), Friday, 13 September 2019 05:14 (two months ago) link

the credits on tidal match that

dyl, Friday, 13 September 2019 06:45 (two months ago) link

Well, this is... not good (and far from "Independant Women").
Disappointing. Funny though how the song changes totally and turns into a LDR song during her part !

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 13 September 2019 11:27 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Nice vocal by AG on this new recording of an (oft-covered) classic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gJLWMM0-YU

#YABASIC (morrisp), Friday, 27 September 2019 18:26 (one month ago) link

I've never fully loved that song but this version makes me almost as happy as my daughter is gonna be when she hears it <3

Dominc Coombesings (Noodle Vague), Friday, 27 September 2019 19:18 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

On the heels of the Chenoweth collab (too early for Xmas tunes?):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWqDwdY0VAg

drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Friday, 18 October 2019 18:30 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

I picked up the Charlie’s Angels soundtrack... it won’t change yr life, but there are a few nice cuts.

dracula et son fils (morrisp), Saturday, 2 November 2019 01:28 (two weeks ago) link

Good attitude, IMO...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEhJLRTUwAEDmbR?format=jpg&name=large

dracula et son fils (morrisp), Monday, 4 November 2019 00:47 (two weeks ago) link

I don't care about charts or medias whatsoever but this is simply not very good, imo (talking about her contribution to the soundtrack only, I haven't listened to the rest).

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 4 November 2019 10:11 (two weeks ago) link

She’s on 5 of the tracks (and as I said, they won’t change yr life... I’m a completist, tho)

jeanie bueller energy (morrisp), Monday, 4 November 2019 17:17 (two weeks ago) link

(The “Boyfriend” CD single that I ordered on Aug. 2 just shipped today :p)

jeanie bueller energy (morrisp), Monday, 4 November 2019 17:24 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, I was talking about her 5 tracks, all of them pretty meh imo which is disappointing since I was looking forward to new material from her (but she's been on fire - and on tour - for a while, up until "Boyfriend", so that's cool !).

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 10:00 (two weeks ago) link

I think “How I Look on You” is a good song; it could have fit on Thank U, Next

jeanie bueller energy (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:39 (two weeks ago) link

(I also like how its opening chords brush against the Star Wars "Imperial March," lol)

jeanie bueller energy (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 18:00 (two weeks ago) link


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