Ariana Grande - "Thank U, Next" (the album)

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By (sort of) popular demand -- and b/c the "AG4" thread is getting really long -- here's a thread for the new album, out Feb. 8:

https://284fc2d5f6f33a52cd9f-ce476c3c56a27f320262daffab84f1af.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com/artwork_5c4a16888361b_AGRANDE_ThankUNextdigitalcover_3000x3000_5c4a1688a8f7a.jpg

Lots of info here, including track list / credits: https://arianagrande.fandom.com/wiki/Thank_U,_Next_(album)

Interesting to see that the usual songwriting crew is all up in it, including Max/Ilya (it came together so quickly, I had assumed maybe the Swedes weren't involved this time). The songs are said to be highly personal (as with Sweetener).

It's obv. unusual for an artist to release a new album less than six months after the last one... She's really rolling, and also at sort of a career high point at the moment. Of course, three of the songs have already been released, two of which are excellent!

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 25 January 2019 20:56 (six months ago) link

expecting "bloodline" will kick ass

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2019 20:59 (six months ago) link

.@ArianaGrande’s “thank u, next” and @MariahCarey’s “Daydream” are the only female albums to have multiple singles debut at No. 1 on the Hot 100 ⚡️ pic.twitter.com/ZA4LHzoGhE

— Ariana Grande Today (@ArianaToday) January 28, 2019

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 28 January 2019 15:34 (six months ago) link

...apparently Britney achieved it, too. A little more chart trivia:

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8495202/ariana-grande-7-rings-hot-100-number-one-debut

In the Hot 100's history, Grande is the first artist whose first two No. 1s have both debuted at the pinnacle.

(Before "Next" and "Rings," no female artist had entered atop the Hot 100 since Adele with "Hello" in November 2015; seven songs then started at No. 1 until "Next.")

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 28 January 2019 19:00 (six months ago) link

brit's #1 debuts weren't from the same album

dyl, Monday, 28 January 2019 19:30 (six months ago) link

Ah

i stan corrected (morrisp), Monday, 28 January 2019 19:31 (six months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkxbLygu9nI

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 05:25 (six months ago) link

Feel like the accomplishment of debuting at #1 these days is in large part about whether you can instantly command social-media attention and YouTube eyeballs. "Thank U, Next" and "7 Rings" were both Trending Topics as soon as they were released.

jaymc, Friday, 1 February 2019 05:34 (six months ago) link

^ should become the definitive version of that song

dyl, Friday, 1 February 2019 06:06 (six months ago) link

(i understand if i am banished from this thread after what i said elsewhere)

dyl, Friday, 1 February 2019 06:07 (six months ago) link

Nah, it's all good! Just show us yr palm tattoo -- that's the ticket back in ;)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 06:11 (six months ago) link

(sorry if I was harsh on that other thread, actually)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 06:12 (six months ago) link

I still don’t care for “7 Rings” all that much — mainly b/c it recycles an overly familiar melody, and has some weak lyrics — but my hope/expectation is that it will turn out to be an anomaly in the context of the album (e.g., none of the other song credits include Rodgers & Hammerstein).

AG’s only truly weak album track until
now, for my frequent-listening dollars, is “Daydreamin’” (what do you even call that particular style? “‘Happy Birthday, Mr. President’ burlesque”?); so she was probably due for another. Naturally, I am happy for the single’s success, its chart achievements, etc.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 06:59 (six months ago) link

I usually hate the recycled melody trick - All Saints's "Never Ever" always rubs me wrong - but I don't hate "7 Rings". It'll be fine as an album track.

Brex Avery (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 February 2019 10:35 (six months ago) link

xp yeah, sorry to be preachy

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 1 February 2019 11:02 (six months ago) link

I do prefer the 2 Chainz remix, fwiw

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 1 February 2019 18:46 (six months ago) link

Ugh of course “7 rings” made it to #1 on the charts. Closing this decade with disgusting singles seems apt I guess.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 2 February 2019 20:40 (six months ago) link

i’ll give y’all a million to get off my nuts https://t.co/7yMyP0eHtt

— Ariana Grande (@ArianaGrande) February 2, 2019

i stan corrected (morrisp), Saturday, 2 February 2019 20:53 (six months ago) link

otm

Brex Avery (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 February 2019 21:18 (six months ago) link

Why have I not been following her??

slack thompson (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 2 February 2019 21:27 (six months ago) link

that tattoo situation is v unfortunate tho

hopefully by now everyone should know that you should never get a tattoo of a script that you don't know how to read

dyl, Saturday, 2 February 2019 21:40 (six months ago) link

she is now tweeting about the 'appropriation'/'appreciation' dichotomy but specifically in relation to this tattoo and not, like, her entire image for this album cycle so far wrt black culture

dyl, Saturday, 2 February 2019 21:42 (six months ago) link

Not sure about “album cycle”; I think the issues have mainly come up with “7 Rings” and its video. She briefly tried to address one of the criticisms (re: hair), I can point you to Instagram post if you’re really interested.

My hope/expectation is she will course correct if necessary... she seems generally open to learning from comments/criticism.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Saturday, 2 February 2019 22:39 (six months ago) link

that is a great tweet

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 3 February 2019 20:08 (six months ago) link

Totally
Also this girl is really converting haters left and right liiikkke I haven't seen the likes of this ever
She's right to ride that roll

surm, Monday, 4 February 2019 03:39 (six months ago) link

In the runup to album release -- a quick post highlighting Tayla Parx, one of its main contributors (she worked on five songs, including the title track), and who also has a ton of other high-profile songwriting credits: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tayla_Parx

...plus some really good singles under her own name: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXR82zHJ6FuWccQQqxtNHyw

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 23:20 (six months ago) link

yes for sure, i was a fan of "slow dancing" last year. didn't realize she had released more since then!

dyl, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 04:52 (six months ago) link

oh dang, just got to "me vs. us". hope tayla blows up

dyl, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 06:08 (six months ago) link

i forgot she was among the "pynk" writers

dyl, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 06:20 (six months ago) link

album has leaked and... it's only ok?

sean gramophone, Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:29 (six months ago) link

it's good, more consistent than Sweetener. I'm in love with "Break Up With Your Girlfriend, I'm Bored."

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:30 (six months ago) link

I've been waiting for someone to write what I've long thought.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:30 (six months ago) link

Can't wait to hear it... (unfortunately, I may not get a chance to really dive in until early next week).

i stan corrected (morrisp), Thursday, 7 February 2019 20:58 (six months ago) link

As opppsed to my teen daughter, I've been enjoying her latest singles.

nathom, Thursday, 7 February 2019 21:42 (six months ago) link

I'm seeing a few ways to read that sentence

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 7 February 2019 22:14 (six months ago) link

AG just fired off a nice series of tweets regarding the Grammys brouhaha.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Thursday, 7 February 2019 22:16 (six months ago) link

i liked those tweets too. it's the sort of thing that reminds me that hey, these silly awards ceremonies won't be around forever and may in fact collapse under their own self-importance far earlier than we think

dyl, Friday, 8 February 2019 02:54 (six months ago) link

Another in a long series of hella cheezy videos... (the song's a banger, tho)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH4Y1ZUUx2g

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:19 (six months ago) link

(sounds a little like something from Reputation, in a few spots)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:22 (six months ago) link

Previewing the album now... "Needy" is pure AG/Brown/Monét/Parx greatness!

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:27 (six months ago) link

"NASA" is perfect, damn

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:30 (six months ago) link

"Bloodline" swings

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:33 (six months ago) link

(Her songs never sound anything like I expect them to, based on the titles alone... guess that's a somewhat trivial observation.)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:35 (six months ago) link

"Fake Smile" is excellent... I don't recognize any of the other credited songwriters on this track? (two of them are via the sample that kicks it off; Wendy Rene's "After Laughter (Comes Tears)")

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:39 (six months ago) link

"Bad Idea" = very Max/Savan/Ilya. Their traxx tend not to feel as "personal" to AG and her style as the ones she records w/Tommy et al., but they do tend to be effective bangers.

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:42 (six months ago) link

(...cool outro, too)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:42 (six months ago) link

Luv "Make Up"... another light, swinging, tropical-feeling groove (damn, it's over already?)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:45 (six months ago) link

This album feels, in the best possible way, like it was written & recorded quickly -- from inspiration to studio to wax, with little time for second-guessing or "overworking."

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:48 (six months ago) link

"Ghostin" is dreamy

i stan corrected (morrisp), Friday, 8 February 2019 05:49 (six months ago) link

Cool/interesting Tommy Brown interview: https://www.complex.com/music/2019/03/ariana-grande-producer-tommy-brown-thank-u-next-making-of

yuh yuh (morrisp), Thursday, 7 March 2019 19:31 (five months ago) link

ooh

piscesx, Friday, 8 March 2019 13:36 (five months ago) link

nice intw, thanks !
I like that, by all acounts, champagne was pretty central in the process !

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 8 March 2019 14:44 (five months ago) link

that is matrix bullet time levels of dodging the "7 Rings" question

theorizing your yells (katherine), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:05 (five months ago) link

haha, I noticed that too 😉

yuh yuh (morrisp), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:10 (five months ago) link

this album is dope

alpine static, Monday, 11 March 2019 21:14 (five months ago) link

anyone else (but me) have tix for the tour?

yuh yuh (morrisp), Monday, 11 March 2019 21:43 (five months ago) link

Nothing to do with this album but I watched Zoolander 2 yesterday (yeah, don't ask... I have no proper excuse or explanation for that... and it's even worse than I imagined it would be!) and she has a cameo in it : she plays a S&M chick in full leather/latex rabbit suit + mouth ball gag (and 1 line I think) !
That was... unexpected !

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 08:47 (five months ago) link

i think i had given up on her making another album this good again

J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 March 2019 16:22 (five months ago) link

"ghostin" is one of the best songs about relationship dynamics i've heard in a while & i can't believe they came up w it on the same protracted timeline as the rest of this album

J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 March 2019 16:33 (five months ago) link

« Ghostin » is wonderful. I don’t know enough about her stuff before Dangerous Woman but it might be her richest song, both lyrically and musically. What a great album. The more I listen to it, the more I love it, except the 3 songs I pass and have actually removed from my edited version of the album (replaced with « Breathin » and « Better off » which share the same emotional/confessional core as the rest of the album).

AlXTC from Paris, Sunday, 17 March 2019 20:30 (five months ago) link

Best songs:

Fake Smile
Break Up...
Bloodlines
Ghostin'
Thank U, Next

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 March 2019 20:44 (five months ago) link

No "NASA" ? It may be the one with the brightest melodies. Sometimes it's my favourite song of the album.

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 18 March 2019 09:44 (five months ago) link

The tour starts today, in Albany

What's that Phish song that goes "Bag it, Tag it"? (morrisp), Monday, 18 March 2019 14:09 (five months ago) link

this is dope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGeH483gNOg

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 19 March 2019 02:32 (five months ago) link

she’s on one

flopson, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 04:14 (five months ago) link

love the horns

flopson, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 04:14 (five months ago) link

They had a voting booth last night at the opening show, decked out in the Sweetener colours with "the future is voting" written on it.
Couldn't love this woman more i'm sorry.

piscesx, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 11:34 (five months ago) link

..or voting 'stand' i guess. Whatever you call it.

piscesx, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 11:37 (five months ago) link

pic.twitter.com/jDWYsFQMaq

— Ariana Grande (@ArianaGrande) March 19, 2019

What's that Phish song that goes "Bag it, Tag it"? (morrisp), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 14:32 (five months ago) link

(Has there ever been an album that sequences the first three singles as the final three tracks??)

Listened to this for the first time today on Spotify without looking at the tracklist and I really liked it but kept thinking "when are the songs I know coming up?"

Vinnie, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 15:07 (five months ago) link

Looks like new track “Monopoly” coming soon:

You ain’t neva lied and this moment waaay too special!! Let’s dooo it!
🥂✨🍾 😌 🎉 https://t.co/thf78JVA5e

— Victoria Monét (@VictoriaMonet) March 28, 2019

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Thursday, 28 March 2019 02:29 (four months ago) link

lol this new track is trash

more power to her if she wants to release her music on her own schedule etc but still

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 1 April 2019 21:16 (four months ago) link

No it's fresh and it rules!

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Monday, 1 April 2019 21:21 (four months ago) link

xp (it's also "a thank you to them fans" -- so if you're not feeling it, wait for the next one!)

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Monday, 1 April 2019 21:23 (four months ago) link

This is her greatest video... The song rules, the video rules, it’s all perfecto 👌

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 03:02 (four months ago) link

ahah, it's a cute video (that reminds me of the videos I was making back in like 93 with my father's camcorder... except for the FX of course)and the song is fun but it's all pretty lightweight and anecdotal imo(and that's fine !).

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 08:23 (four months ago) link

i might be a few week late but 'imagine' is incredible.

meaulnes, Sunday, 14 April 2019 22:00 (four months ago) link

^yeah, it’s remarkable. I’m a little surprised it never got more attention (even after being released as a “promotional single” last fall, performed on TV, etc.)

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Sunday, 14 April 2019 22:52 (four months ago) link

My copy of that 7” finally arrived (“Thank U, Next” b/w “Imagine”). I don’t normally buy redundant vinyl just on “collector/fan” impulse, but it feels like holding a perfect slice of history.

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Sunday, 14 April 2019 23:00 (four months ago) link

Cracking set list last night at Coachella. No Bloodline though which is a surprise.
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/ariana-grande/2019/empire-polo-grounds-indio-ca-139329cd.html

piscesx, Monday, 15 April 2019 11:06 (four months ago) link

rinsed this lp the past week. 'ghostin' is the most emotional cut of pop ive heard in the past ten years, fuck. the whole record's texturally gorgeous.

meaulnes, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 01:06 (four months ago) link

Weirdly, Ariana Grande was one of the first people to know the details of this piece. I was catching up with a friend, in March, and she walked into his flat. Turns out they've known each other for fifteen years. We talked about Abu Hafs al-Mauritani's post-9/11 escape to Iran. https://t.co/s1T6G7H1WI

— Ben Taub (@bentaub91) April 20, 2019

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Sunday, 21 April 2019 02:09 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

I’m waiting in line to get into the venue for this show... there are ppl wearing literal Ariana Grande costumes in this crowd.

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 02:07 (three months ago) link

These are my peeps; preteen girls and their moms

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 02:10 (three months ago) link

I wasn't planning to give my impressions of the show, but since y'all keep asking...

It was pretty fantastic overall; her performance was outstanding. The peak of the set is a sustained string of old & new hits that had the crowd raging; the energy was insane (at least in my section). It takes a little while to build up to that... things start kind of slow (darkened stage, slower songs). In contrast to the Dangerous Woman Tour, the stage is almost totally bare, with no props etc.; just those big orbs and projections (which you've probably seen).

They cram a ton of songs into the set, drawing from all 5 albums -- and many of the songs are abbreviated, to accomplish this, but it doesn't feel rushed or like a "revue." I did think the flow was a little odd in some places, and a few arrangements didn't work so well ("No Tears Left to Cry," of all songs, was leaden). But the core stretch of the show was awesome, beyond satisfying. I kind of wish I had tickets to another tour date!

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Thursday, 9 May 2019 00:40 (three months ago) link

Oh, some of the choreography was a little corny, too... but in a sort of endearingly "casual" way. During a few costume-change breaks, the big screens play video clips of Ariana hamming it up as a kid. The whole show has a really down-to-earth, "among-friends" feel.

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Thursday, 9 May 2019 00:44 (three months ago) link

Nuts... Victoria showed up the 2nd night, and they did “Monopoly” >:|

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Thursday, 9 May 2019 04:54 (three months ago) link

four weeks pass...

i said it before but i have to say it again, ghostin is an incredibly powerful song...

meaulnes, Saturday, 8 June 2019 01:29 (two months ago) link

imagine for cut of the year, though. nobodys going to drop anything realer

meaulnes, Saturday, 8 June 2019 01:30 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

New track drops in a few hours

right ?
we wanted to make something uplifting that captures that feeling of being afraid to take the leap & trust, being afraid of being hurt or feeling like you won’t be enough for that person ... but also how it feels to have a crippling crush on someone. 🖤 #Boyfriendtonight https://t.co/IHQ3cRC9iy

— Ariana Grande (@ArianaGrande) August 2, 2019

the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Friday, 2 August 2019 02:04 (two weeks ago) link

Nice groove... sort of "thank u, next" pt 2 (same crew)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA862JDEoKs

the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Friday, 2 August 2019 04:32 (two weeks ago) link

The lyrics involve a very specific type of relationship situation, I like when a song goes for that.

60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Friday, 2 August 2019 04:44 (two weeks ago) link

It’s great ! Very catch and smooth. Perfect for the summer.

AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 3 August 2019 08:50 (two weeks ago) link

heard it on the radio. sounds like more of the same. is this supposed to be leading off a new project?

dyl, Saturday, 3 August 2019 20:57 (two weeks ago) link

No, it’s a one-off they made while on tour.

60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Saturday, 3 August 2019 23:07 (two weeks ago) link

Also (fwiw), just read that she and Mike from Social House (the first of two guys in the song) have reportedly started dating.

60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Saturday, 3 August 2019 23:48 (two weeks ago) link

(I wouldn’t normally mention that or care, but I guess it’s relevant/interesting to the extent the song may reflect the actual contours of their relationship)

60... 90... 120 Minute IPA (morrisp), Sunday, 4 August 2019 02:12 (two weeks ago) link


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