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it's been fairly slow january again

Jonghyun's posthumous track is nice, "Always Be With You" indeed, RIP

other highlights so far:

LOONA's Go Won should release her track in a week or so to hopefully continue their excellent run of singles

ufo, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 04:53 (one year ago) Permalink
this is good too

ufo, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 05:02 (one year ago) Permalink

Chunga's good, good do well at a Eurovision, I like that we have a couple of popular female solo pop stars doing their thing now.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 06:56 (one year ago) Permalink

sigh, that Jonghyun video is making me sad all over again. He really was one of the best.

Roz, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 12:19 (one year ago) Permalink


Just can't get behind Ravi as a rapper (he's an OK producer) but nice to see Park Jimin getting some work.

hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 02:30 (one year ago) Permalink

Jonghyun's entire album is out:

Proceeds are going to his mom, you can read up on how to support here:

hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 02:41 (one year ago) Permalink

I really like Jonghyun's Rewind off of the new record:

fragglerock, Sunday, 28 January 2018 01:50 (one year ago) Permalink

The whole album is great but I can't quite bring myself to replay it. It's #1 on iTunes BTW.

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 28 January 2018 01:59 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm really enjoying the fanscreams for East Light, they sound like elementary school students...

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 28 January 2018 02:03 (one year ago) Permalink

new red velvet is ok but their r&b 'velvet' singles are never as good as the pop 'red' ones

ufo, Monday, 29 January 2018 10:23 (one year ago) Permalink

loona continue to be excellent

ufo, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 04:58 (one year ago) Permalink

Loona stuff continues to sound quite different from release to release but maintain its cool, and a conceptual consistency.

Velvet song seems ok, but yeah, when they're not 'Red' they tend to get more generic

abcfsk, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 09:07 (one year ago) Permalink

I guess I'm in the minority that likes Bad Boy more than their last two singles... winter is the best season for RnB and the production on this is so nice.

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 1 February 2018 03:10 (one year ago) Permalink

I really like the Go Won track too!

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 1 February 2018 03:12 (one year ago) Permalink

I like Bad Boy a fair amount, and more than Peek-A-Boo, but it's summer here. it's probably their best r&b single so far but Red Flavor is my favourite single of theirs.

ufo, Thursday, 1 February 2018 06:06 (one year ago) Permalink

Thoughts on Holland, the first openly gay idol? song isn't great imo but am glad there's actual making out in the video.

And I really like how breezy this iKon track is (their actual title track was bleh). The fun choreography helps:

Roz, Saturday, 3 February 2018 15:46 (one year ago) Permalink

He has a nice voice (Holland). The BF is cute. There have been other idols who were all-but-out but it's something different to have a scene that purposefully removes the ambiguity. I wonder if he'll end up with a niche audience like Double A (never forget).

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 3 February 2018 22:58 (one year ago) Permalink

or the fabulous, Kazaky-inspired N.O.M :D

yeah someone on omona pointed out that even Adam Lambert hasn't had any gay scenes in his videos, which honestly surprised me considering how long he's been out.

Roz, Sunday, 4 February 2018 05:25 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm reading that most of Holland's fans are international, which could be a problem for him financially (again similar to Double A). A solo singer is a lot cheaper to produce than a group though, hopefully he'll make it.

I have to say that I like Love Scenario more than Beautiful... on the one hand Love Scenario is really minimal and sparse, so on that count it's kinda boring but on the other hand it's got the old-tyme-country feel with the weird off-beat rhythms like Bae Bae had and that's a recent YG production trend I enjoy and support.

hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 5 February 2018 04:56 (one year ago) Permalink

Another excellent single from Sunmi:

New Suzy is good too, kind of Bad Liar-ish:

Roz, Thursday, 15 February 2018 15:46 (one year ago) Permalink

Finally an NCT release that fulfills the promise of the project:

It's young, hip, melodic, retro, current, and has an easy chorus. And for once the easy chorus/dense throwback harmonies aren't at odds with the rest of the song!

Though I do like BOSS too.

hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 03:45 (one year ago) Permalink

Like here, they are still making unusually melodic hip hop over a decent beat, but they don't know how to incorporate the more traditional "kpop" melodic content, except by suspending the beat for a few bars.

hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 03:55 (one year ago) Permalink

great sunmi track
the riff reminds me of 'fight for this love'

nxd, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 10:52 (one year ago) Permalink

Sober is quite good but I think I'd like it more if it had a moment of cartharsis like Bad Liar does with "oh baby let's make reality actuality" etc.

I really like all the overlapping vocals in the Baby Don't Stop chorus, definitely one of the best NCT singles.

ufo, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:41 (one year ago) Permalink

Right??? And right before it ends, there's some straight-up jazz do-wop harmonies.

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 1 March 2018 03:35 (one year ago) Permalink

Be ba da loo bob beep bop ba

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 1 March 2018 03:36 (one year ago) Permalink

Lol this is the first time I'm watching the "BOSS" video - that is both great and hilarious.

And "Baby Don't Stop" is just great, period. Those vocal arrangements are incredible.

Roz, Thursday, 1 March 2018 14:26 (one year ago) Permalink

Bad Boy has grown on me quite a lot. Roller Coaster still great, glad to see Chungha killing the charts.

abcfsk, Saturday, 3 March 2018 09:39 (one year ago) Permalink

Interesting to see if Momoland can follow up BboomBboom and become a truly major group. I enjoy their Egyptian Shumba-like screams live. Seems Japanese interest is high.

abcfsk, Saturday, 3 March 2018 10:03 (one year ago) Permalink

@Roz that's not the official video for BOSS, it's just something MNet does. I kinda prefer it tho lol.

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 3 March 2018 22:17 (one year ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Is there some brand value to putting "ft Jay Park" on a Loco song? Because I'm not sure what he adds to this lmao.

hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 23 March 2018 00:39 (one year ago) Permalink

whoops forgot the v=, here's the link :

hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 23 March 2018 00:40 (one year ago) Permalink

OMG guys... this is the most brilliant marketing scheme of 2018...

What's the 1 thing preteen girls love more than Boyz?

hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 00:09 (one year ago) Permalink

The spoiler sounds awesome too, I'm excited:

GIDDY UP, guys!

hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 00:11 (one year ago) Permalink

Also JYP on a roll with the self-produced boygroups... this one has a rock/hiphop sound as if some Korean American kids who grew up on eminem and linkin park were later given a chance to produce an idol group.

hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 00:47 (one year ago) Permalink


hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 00:48 (one year ago) Permalink

this one has a rock/hiphop sound as if some Korean American kids who grew up on eminem and linkin park were later given a chance to produce an idol group.

oh good, i was trying to figure out where that familiar sense of secondhand embarrassment was coming from.

Roz, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 12:36 (one year ago) Permalink

middle section of the new LOONA is maybe a little too disjointed but I love the rest of it

ufo, Friday, 30 March 2018 03:17 (one year ago) Permalink

chorus seems a bit lacking, but it's a lot better than the last one (GoWon's). The other song on her single is great too:

Their sound design is incredible - i can't wait for their group debut.

Roz, Friday, 30 March 2018 14:33 (one year ago) Permalink

I think she's a little weaker than other vocalists in LOONA, which makes the chorus sound lacking. But her emoting on the verses is good. I like the last section starting at 3:45 when they put all the echo effects on, other sections were a little predictable.

hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 30 March 2018 20:49 (one year ago) Permalink

Dunno if EXID's new jack swing will bring back all their fans who drifted away but I really like it, it's chill without being boring (lots of breaks for vocalists to show off):

Could use maybe a change in tempo or volume though. I was a bigger fan of DDD.

hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 2 April 2018 14:44 (one year ago) Permalink

I really like that too, it could use a more distinctive bridge or something to change things up as you said, but I prefer it to DDD

ufo, Monday, 2 April 2018 14:58 (one year ago) Permalink

Love this track, sounds very SHINee-esque.

Roz, Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:16 (one year ago) Permalink

that's pretty good, I love the bridge especially

ufo, Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:49 (one year ago) Permalink

Helpful youtube commenter:

Once * Army
6 minutes ago
Movie references in the MV:
0.31 Ghost - 1990
0.49 Pulp Fiction - 1994
1.07 Romeo and Juliet - 1996
1.14, 2.43 Love Letter - 1995
1.23 La La Land - 2016
1.42 La Boum - 1980
2.19-2.31 Leon:The Professional- 1994
2.39 The Princess Diaries - 2001

abcfsk, Monday, 9 April 2018 15:44 (one year ago) Permalink

decent but it's pretty TWICE-by-numbers

ufo, Monday, 9 April 2018 20:02 (one year ago) Permalink

TWICE-by-numbers >>>> 90% of K-pop

Roz, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 13:58 (one year ago) Permalink

Plus the video really is a delight

abcfsk, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 14:22 (one year ago) Permalink

it's a total earworm even if it's not as exciting as Likey

ufo, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 16:26 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm a fan of Giddy Up, even if they didn't put the horses in the actual MV.

hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 16 April 2018 03:22 (one year ago) Permalink

I've actually never heard of this group - came across via Youtube autoplay. Extremely enjoyable!

Roz, Saturday, 20 October 2018 11:11 (five months ago) Permalink

They're from the survival show Idol School, I think. Kind of CJ E&M's answer to Mnet's Produce 101 or KBS's The Unit, but not as popular as either of those. I think this is the first fromis_9 track that's gotten any traction with the general public.

hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 22 October 2018 00:16 (five months ago) Permalink

Love Bomb is quite good, much better than the previous fromis_9 singles i'd heard which i barely remember at all

the Batman trend in kpop videos was really so odd

ufo, Monday, 22 October 2018 00:54 (five months ago) Permalink

EXO doing some crowd-pleasing current hip hop trends, but then there's an extended barbershop call and response bridge:

hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 2 November 2018 23:47 (five months ago) Permalink

new TWICE is fun, certainly one of their best singles. feels kinda Kylie-ish?

ufo, Monday, 5 November 2018 09:21 (five months ago) Permalink

Really like 'Tempo'

Frederik B, Monday, 5 November 2018 11:07 (five months ago) Permalink

Me too Frederirk, me too.

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 8 November 2018 09:01 (five months ago) Permalink

I think TWICE might repeat the chorus many one or two too many times, but it's pretty enjoyable. TT is their best song I think.

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 8 November 2018 09:08 (five months ago) Permalink

Speaking of songs that will please fans, Key x Soyou is everything you'd want and expect from that collaboration, they both have such nice/contrasting voices and the song sounds like it could have been a b side on the last SHINee album.

Also, my boys MXM out there doing their MXM thing, I love how consistent they are with the shout vocals, simple hooks and indie visuals:

Both songs are simple but I like them.

hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 8 November 2018 09:21 (five months ago) Permalink

Forever Yours is fun!

my top three TWICE singles are pretty easily Likey, Yes or Yes, and What Is Love?

ufo, Thursday, 8 November 2018 11:59 (five months ago) Permalink

I'm really glad Key is doing well in this post-Jonghyun world - for a while there, it seemed like he might have been the hardest hit by the loss.

Yes or Yes is great, and more Clueless-esque plaid skirts and berets! I like Tempo too, not least because SM has finally realised how popular Sehun is and decided to give him double the number of his usual lines haha.

Roz, Thursday, 8 November 2018 13:51 (five months ago) Permalink

Have I mentioned before that I'm into the jazz trend in Kpop? Because I'm into the jazz trend in Kpop. US producers, you need to get on this.

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 17 November 2018 19:37 (five months ago) Permalink

That's a collab between Park Jiyeon (ex-GLAM) and Park Kyung, by the way.

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 17 November 2018 19:38 (five months ago) Permalink

EXID come back with one of their best earworms yet

abcfsk, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 15:32 (four months ago) Permalink

NCT putting melody in their hip hop again, the producers have nailed the formula, this is really good:

It kinda has a similar aesthetic to EXO's tempo, but younger / edgier / trendier.

hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 02:20 (four months ago) Permalink

Really like Hani on the bridge of that EXID song

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 1 December 2018 03:10 (four months ago) Permalink

For those of us who miss old school BAP... plus one of these guys has a really impressive ability to shout on pitch:

If 5 minutes is too long for you, they shortened it to 3 1/2 for the broadcast version (this is worth watching IMO):

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 1 December 2018 03:45 (four months ago) Permalink

So have there been any consensus stand out hits this year? Out of curiosity and also, of course, looking forward to the ilx best of the year voting.

abcfsk, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 08:46 (four months ago) Permalink

nothing's been quite as exciting as last year's highlights in LOONA's amazing run, and Red Velvet, Twice and Blackpink all releasing their best singles but there's still a lot i like

a quick list of some favourites:
BTS - Idol
Oh My Girl - Remember Me
NCT U - Baby Don't Stop
NCT 127 - Touch
LOONA/Olivia Hye feat. JinSoul - Egoist
(G)I-DLE - HANN (Alone)
Sunmi - Siren
Yubin - Lady
Apink - I'm so sick
Red Velvet - Bad Boy
Red Velvet - Power Up
Brave Girls - Rollin' (New Version)
Hyolyn - See Sea

out of those, i'm certainly voting for "Idol", "Remember Me" and at least one NCT track, and maybe a few of the others

ufo, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 09:28 (four months ago) Permalink

I could support GIdle, maybe Sunmi, BTS, well, they've had a year anyway. Will probably add IU, though still disappointed we didn't get her top 77 last year. I'll be voting for BoA's Woman in the album poll.

abcfsk, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 09:47 (four months ago) Permalink

'power up' for me

nxd, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 10:49 (four months ago) Permalink

Merry and happy 2018 from Twice

Jeff W, Friday, 14 December 2018 22:04 (four months ago) Permalink

That's a great list, ufo... I'm down to vote for everything on it up to Siren.

I'll add:
Momoland - Bboom Bboom
Pentagon - Shine
Seventeen - Oh My
Chungha - Roller Coaster
GFriend - Time for the Moon Night
Dean - Instagram
Lee Jin Ah - Run (with Gray)**
NCT 127 - Boss
NCT 127 - Simon Says
Minseo - Zero
The Boyz - Giddy Up
April - Oh My Mistake
SHINEE - Countless

Other songs I'm thinking about but don't feel strongly about:
ONF - Complete
Got7 - Lullaby

And the ones no one else will vote for:
Brand New Boys (MXM) - Ya Ya Ya
Soyou - All Night (with SIK-K)
Day6 - Shoot Me**
UNB - Black Heart
SHINEE - Lock You Down

**Mostly as a stand in for the songs from these artists I wish I'd nominated last year lmao, but both songs are pretty hooky.

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 16 December 2018 16:44 (four months ago) Permalink

Also, this is separate from my year-end list, but here's my JAZZ WATCH 2018 list for those who are interested:

Lee Jin Ah (with Gray) - Run
Dean - Instagram
Soyou (with SIK-K) - All Night
Minseo - Is Who?
Brand New Boys - Ya Ya Ya
UNB - Black Heart
April - The Blue Bird
Fromis_9 - Dancing Queen
SHINEE - Retro
BTS - Pluto
Heize - First Sight

Fully expecting this trend to jump over from Korea to the US at some point, or maybe that's just my wishful thinking.

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 16 December 2018 18:15 (four months ago) Permalink

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 16 December 2018 18:20 (four months ago) Permalink

To let you guys know how serious this is, we have two local very good jazz stations these days they are the only thing I listen to on the radio.

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 16 December 2018 18:23 (four months ago) Permalink

Basically last year would have been a great time to nominate some jazzy Kpop

Heize - Jenga
Lee Jin Ah - Random
Day6 - What Should I Do)

and these songs have grown on me a bunch, so this year is my chance to make amends.

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 16 December 2018 18:34 (four months ago) Permalink

Also add CLC - Seventh to that JAZZ WATCH 2018 list, I think I might nominate all the tracks on it just for laffs.

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 16 December 2018 18:46 (four months ago) Permalink

i could definitely get behind 'Run' and 'oh! My Mistake'. i'd forgotten about 'Run' but it's excellent

ufo, Sunday, 16 December 2018 21:57 (four months ago) Permalink

Since I feel so strongly about this, I went ahead and made an 8tracks playlist for ya'll. Some of the songs on it are from 2017 tho:

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 16 December 2018 22:38 (four months ago) Permalink

I love oh! my mistake, have you seen the video of April doing it live acapella after the audio cuts out at some college festival? They aren't power vocalistss by any means but much stronger than I'd thought.

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 16 December 2018 22:40 (four months ago) Permalink

Not sure if there's a consensus pick yet but I *still* haven't gotten over the vocal arrangements on NCT U's "Baby Don't Stop" so that's probably going to be my highest-placing K-pop pick.

Other faves, mostly the same as what everyone else has posted:
Red Velvet - "Bad Boy" (a real slow-burner for me but it's now kind of my favourite RV song? Weird.)
SHINee - "Good Evening"
Hyolyn - "SEESEA"
TWICE - "What is Love?"
Pentagon - "Shine"
G)I-DLE - "HANN (Alone)"
SF9 - "Now or Never"
April - "Oh! My Mistake"

Also was this ever posted here? TSJ reviewed this a couple of weeks ago, and it's incredible.

Roz, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 14:04 (four months ago) Permalink

ooh that's great

nxd, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 14:25 (four months ago) Permalink

this is pretty nice

ufo, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 22:34 (four months ago) Permalink

Year-end BANGER from BoA

abcfsk, Thursday, 20 December 2018 19:36 (three months ago) Permalink


abcfsk, Thursday, 20 December 2018 19:36 (three months ago) Permalink

WINNER track is really fun! Seungyoon sounds good in that range and Mino's rap is really fun at that speed.

I like the BoA a lot too, SM stays on point with the Latin fusion tracks.

hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 21 December 2018 02:12 (three months ago) Permalink


SF9 - Now or Never is nice, and I think we forgot Super Junior - Lo Siento too!

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 22 December 2018 03:51 (three months ago) Permalink

Though how legitimate a list that doesn't include NCT U - Baby Don't Stop is, I don't know.

hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 22 December 2018 03:51 (three months ago) Permalink

oh i'm glad that reminded me of SEVENTEEN - Thanks, i really love that one but keep forgetting to add it to my 2018 playlist

ufo, Saturday, 22 December 2018 04:08 (three months ago) Permalink

also See Sea is just the ideal tropical house track, so effortless and i love the vocal layering in the chorus so much

ufo, Sunday, 23 December 2018 02:39 (three months ago) Permalink

Happy holiday whatevers K-Pop people. Here's a playlist with all the songs discussed on the thread this year.

ILM's 2018 Rolling K-Pop Spotify Playlist

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 23 December 2018 21:29 (three months ago) Permalink


hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 23 December 2018 22:30 (three months ago) Permalink

This is on just now

[Live] 2018 KBS Song Festival I KBS 가요대축제 !! [2018.12.28]

*not available in Japan for some reason

sbahnhof, Friday, 28 December 2018 11:52 (three months ago) Permalink

Videos from last night:

sbahnhof, Friday, 28 December 2018 21:42 (three months ago) Permalink

kpop 2019

here's a new thread

ufo, Friday, 4 January 2019 05:06 (three months ago) Permalink

Holy crap guys, I got sick and didn't nominate anything for the 2018 year end list :(

I'm just about to check if it's on there, but the best kpop song of 2018 is Heize's Jenga. For some reason, I'd been thinking all this time that it came out last year. Hopefully someone else nominated it.

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 6 January 2019 19:13 (three months ago) Permalink

thanks ufo!

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 6 January 2019 19:14 (three months ago) Permalink

Not there, dang :( I'll just continue to talk about it up in this thread then, maybe one day I'll be able to forgive myself for not nominating this and First Sight.

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 6 January 2019 19:17 (three months ago) Permalink

my vote were for Red Velvet 'Power Up' and IU 'BBIBBBI'
this Heize track is pretty great tho!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 6 January 2019 21:05 (three months ago) Permalink

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