to start the year off we have a gorgeous sophisti-ballad from Luna
and another solid Chung Ha single
― ufo, Friday, 4 January 2019 05:06 (eleven months ago) link
oh and of course Blackpink high up on the coachella lineup - rumour was they're going to make a big push at the US market this year so that fits
― ufo, Friday, 4 January 2019 07:03 (eleven months ago) link
yay Chungha killing it early in the year once again.
Luna's song is pretty - would prefer another "Free Somebody" though.
Blackpink signed with Interscope a few months back so yeah it makes sense. As much as I like them though, just thinking about their live performances makes me wish it was really 2NE1 at Coachella. Alas, the timing was never right.
― Roz, Friday, 4 January 2019 15:33 (eleven months ago) link
This little ditty is 10 years old today
― Roz, Saturday, 5 January 2019 04:48 (eleven months ago) link
new japanese red velvet single 'Sappy' is pretty interesting, chorus still leans towards the sort of annoying repetitive thing they've had on weaker singles like 'Rookie' but that warped brass line rules
― ufo, Sunday, 6 January 2019 05:02 (eleven months ago) link
it's probably their weirdest single yet and i'm here for that
― ufo, Sunday, 6 January 2019 05:08 (eleven months ago) link
cosign on "weird" and "here for that"
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 6 January 2019 17:02 (eleven months ago) link
I couldn't finish Sappy the other day, but maybe I'll give it another try today. I just can't get into Red Velvet's new direction.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 6 January 2019 19:15 (eleven months ago) link
it's the first time one of their hyperactive kitchen sink r&b tracks has really worked this well for me, predecessors like Really Bad Boy (still can't believe they called a song that), #Cookie Jar and Rookie were nowhere near as strong
Sappy feels like it's constantly threatening to completely go off the rails rhythmically but never quite does
― ufo, Sunday, 6 January 2019 23:56 (eleven months ago) link
still confused by Apink's sudden shift to being decently interesting that happened last year but i'm glad they're keeping it up
― ufo, Monday, 7 January 2019 09:56 (eleven months ago) link
I really like this a lot, it's what So Sick promised to be but for real this time.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 10 January 2019 01:43 (eleven months ago) link
just discovered this fantastic shambhala track from last year, if i'd heard this sooner i'd absolutely have it in my eoy list
― ufo, Sunday, 13 January 2019 06:56 (ten months ago) link
Surprising (to me) chart topper, lot of fun!
― abcfsk, Monday, 14 January 2019 20:58 (ten months ago) link
Ok this lady rocks, this would've been campaigned for year-end heavily if I had heard it before
― abcfsk, Monday, 14 January 2019 21:08 (ten months ago) link
'Tting' is really really good, but 'Enchanted Propaganda' might just be the greatest song in human history!
― abcfsk, Monday, 14 January 2019 21:39 (ten months ago) link
Thank you ufo/abcfsk - last few tracks are all amazing.
Meanwhile, Lee Hi's all grown up. ;_; In my head, she's still the teenager with the big voice who YG insisted on dressing like a 5-year-old.
― Roz, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 03:31 (ten months ago) link
Listening to ILX Listen: 2019
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 16:54 (ten months ago) link
― abcfsk, Friday, 25 January 2019 22:33 (ten months ago) link
Really love that Nieah track.
I don't dig this CLC single as much the G-Idle ones, and I fear this still won't be CLC's breakout moment, but it's cool that one girl group member wrote, composed and produced another girl group's single.
― abcfsk, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 16:16 (ten months ago) link
i like "No" a fair amount, Soyeon absolutely one of kpop's mvps at the moment
― ufo, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 16:20 (ten months ago) link
guys, I know I didn't do enough campaigning for it (thanks for picking up the slack ufo!) but i'm going to be really bummed if "Baby Don't Stop" doesn't make the Top 77. It was ranked 3rd on my ballot, while Red Velvet was 4th and that just barely made it in. Suspect name recognition helped RV too - they've made the list twice before.
― Roz, Thursday, 31 January 2019 02:36 (ten months ago) link
"Baby Don't Stop" is the one i'm still hoping will place, i had it very high on my ballot too. if it does place i think it'd be the highest kpop placement ever apart from gangnam style at this point so that'd be something
― ufo, Thursday, 31 January 2019 02:42 (ten months ago) link
that would be great yeah but i'm not feeling too confident, ILMers don't seem as interested in boybands compared to girl groups. Also, TSJ never reviewed it - I feel like that's usually needed for non-English language pop to get some traction on the poll.
― Roz, Thursday, 31 January 2019 03:00 (ten months ago) link
i think there's still room to be pleasantly surprised after "new" did so well last year mostly from people discovering it in the nominations playlist and going "wow this rules"
― ufo, Thursday, 31 January 2019 03:25 (ten months ago) link
My 13 yo listens to kpop. Got into it cause of a classmate. It's the only thing she listens to. Bought her some kpop gear for xmas. I love how obsessed she is.
― nathom, Thursday, 31 January 2019 08:14 (ten months ago) link
Yeah, I noticed that Portuguese stores that barely still sells CDs do have a largeish section for K-Pop.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 31 January 2019 10:46 (ten months ago) link
It's very cool to listen to kpop, I notice. Kinda like indie was when I was young (or northern soul when my dad was young). So when my kid only talks ab it, I get it. The only text messages she sends me or pics of Jungwoo. Haha.
― nathom, Thursday, 31 January 2019 20:46 (ten months ago) link
teenage girls into K-pop are the only people in the world who are still buying physical copies of CDs - many of their fan communities organise bulk buying campaigns. (It helps that K-pop artists are also the only pop acts that still have the budget to produce album covers with bonus features like photo booklets, postcards, pull out lyrics sheets, etc.)
― Roz, Friday, 1 February 2019 15:15 (ten months ago) link
Well, except for idol fans in Japan.
It's the new JYP girl group! Obviously launched as TWICE counter-programming
― abcfsk, Sunday, 10 February 2019 19:58 (ten months ago) link
Chungha’s “Gotta Go” is awesome. I love the swirling psychedelic trap soundscape.
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 10 February 2019 20:53 (ten months ago) link
"Dalla Dalla" is really fun
― ufo, Sunday, 10 February 2019 22:19 (ten months ago) link
LOVE "Dalla Dalla". What a great debut.
― Roz, Monday, 11 February 2019 15:34 (nine months ago) link
seeing Taemin lean into androgyny after spending most of his early years in SHINee being uncomfortable in his role as the designated pretty one makes me happy.
Late but enjoying "Sunrise" too - classic spring K-pop single
― Roz, Monday, 11 February 2019 15:36 (nine months ago) link
the only complaint i have about "dalla dalla" is that chanting in the bridge - it was annoying enough in quite a few twice singles
taemin's "want" is really great, such a groove
― ufo, Monday, 11 February 2019 23:17 (nine months ago) link
― abcfsk, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 11:16 (nine months ago) link
Whoa that rules. I haven't liked their previous singles but this is straight up awesome.
― Roz, Thursday, 14 February 2019 16:09 (nine months ago) link
― nxd, Friday, 15 February 2019 10:18 (nine months ago) link
new LOONA "Butterfly" is their best single in a while, doesn't quite reach the heights of say "Girl Front" or "new" but pretty enjoyable still. the chorus beat drop is very nice but the rest of the chorus lets it down a little, though it is a lot better at the end when there's more going on
― ufo, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 11:57 (nine months ago) link
Yeah that is lovely - their sound design is incredible.
Underwritten choruses or choruses that are mere excuses for a drop/dance break have been a thing in K-pop for a while now ("Killing me" by IKON and RV's "Peek-a-Boo" come to mind, but there are loads of others).
― Roz, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 14:42 (nine months ago) link
On the opposite end of the spectrum, this song is all over the place but I'm kind of obsessed with the echo-y harmonies on the chorus.
― Roz, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 14:46 (nine months ago) link
loona are so good arent they
― nxd, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 09:29 (nine months ago) link
Japanese singer releases Korean single in the Japanese city-pop genre style
― abcfsk, Friday, 22 February 2019 12:51 (nine months ago) link
Really should post this over on the J-pop thread but on a similar tip, Japanese-Korean artist Chanmina raps/sings in both languages + English. She's a Big Bang fan if it's not obvious.
― Roz, Friday, 22 February 2019 15:06 (nine months ago) link
just catching up on the past few weeks - posted about it a bit on the Big Bang thread, but what started as tawdry gossip over a nightclub assault has turned into an epic clusterfuck. Like this article doesn't even scratch the surface of what's been reported on so far (if anyone finds a decent primer on it, let me know).
Meanwhile, the rest of kpop world keeps on rolling.
the season of great debuts continues with TXT (I'm annoyed that Spotify lists them by their full name TOMORROW X TOGETHER, which is just awkward):
"Senorita" has really grown on me. Love those horns:
Park Bom be like "YG who?" I don't love her in ballad mode, but this is nice enough. I'm happy to hear her voice again and she must be so relieved to have escaped YG's dungeon when she did lol.
And finally, the best music video of 2019 so far (sorry CRJ):
― Roz, Monday, 18 March 2019 14:14 (eight months ago) link
― Roz, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 13:01 (eight months ago) link
Been talking w my kpop obsessed daughter about the scandal. My colleague's sister was just "wtf is happening!" The whole coverage is weird too. Watching it on youtube, it's weird.
― nathom, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 13:25 (eight months ago) link
yeh the coverage has been a lil strange
xp that sunmi song rules
― nxd, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 09:36 (eight months ago) link
re coverage: I think it's because it wasn't a single exposé that revealed everything or a scandal that was focused on a particular issue - it started with a brawl at a club, and unfolded in fits and starts to uncover all manner of wrongdoing in Seoul's celebrity/party/business circles. The central figure in all of the stories is Big Bang's Seungri, who straddles all of these worlds - on top of being part of one of Korea's biggest and most-loved boy groups, he owns a successful ramen chain and has a reputation as a party boy. So all of the reporting has ultimately been about him really, even as it has engulfed other pop stars/celebs.
I will say that as a former Big Bang obsessive, nothing that has come out about Seungri has been particularly surprising, other than being baffled by why he thought it was a good idea to go so far in the first place. I'm just looking back at stuff I wrote in 2012-13 in which I had described him variously as: "a frat douche", "a skirtchaser", "an uncontrollable freak" and "a sociopath" - like even though I was half-joking in most of these, the signs were always there.
I'm mostly heartbroken for the young women and teenagers who worshipped these guys - it's always a huge betrayal when you find out your favourite artist are secretly terrible people. weirdly, it hasn't affected me that much but I've gone off Big Bang quite a bit in the past few years (plus, I think after Jesse Lacey/Brand New, I've come to expect that bands/male artists that mean a lot to me will probably disappoint me eventually).
― Roz, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 14:32 (eight months ago) link
― Roz, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 14:36 (eight months ago) link
Another distinct female rapper hitting it big... outside of all the shitty news stories 2019 is a good year!
― abcfsk, Sunday, 31 March 2019 15:58 (eight months ago) link
new Red Velvet summer single "Zimzalabim" is all over the place, idk what to make of it yet. the production is quite fun but it doesn't really end up cohering into much and isn't that hooky?
― ufo, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:54 (five months ago) link
^ i feel pretty much the same. what a mess.
― fragglerock, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 10:07 (five months ago) link
yeah it's a mess even by kpop kitchen sink pop standards. i feel like with a better structure and a proper chorus it could have been good, there's enough good ideas in the production, but it doesn't amount to much at all as it is. a real shame after how great "Sappy" was
― ufo, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 10:34 (five months ago) link
It'll prob never happen but I would die for a Sunmi + Chungha collab.
― Roz, Thursday, 27 June 2019 14:42 (five months ago) link
on that note, seems that 90's r&b is this year's summer trend
― ufo, Thursday, 27 June 2019 14:45 (five months ago) link
xpost woops wrong link although that (G)I-DLE song is good too! Snapping was what I meant to post lol
― Roz, Thursday, 27 June 2019 14:46 (five months ago) link
yeah i like both, Soyeon and Chungha are both real stars
― ufo, Thursday, 27 June 2019 14:53 (five months ago) link
I wrote a bit about Seungri over on Frank's livejournal, like Roz I was surprised by the extent of Seungri's actual crimes but not that we was involved in unsavory stuff in some way (https://koganbot.dreamwidth.org/373664.html)
Also in small world news, our boy Jakob is out here getting interviewed by the Reacttothek youtube folks, but I think the interview is locked to their Patreon supporters. Maybe only of interest to a small circle of people anyway...
I haven't been around at all this year because I was so disappointed in myself for not recommending Heize's Jenga for the 2018 year-end poll, and then I didn't like most of the big singles. But maybe there will be something in this post that draws me back in.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 14:59 (five months ago) link
Will this work? Let's see:
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:05 (five months ago) link
From the end of that interview, described as following the emo-rap trend, but with like RnB instead:
Jakob says the rapper sounds like he's almost screaming, but I think he sounds like he needs to clear his throat... maybe needs to watch his technique or he won't have any voice left soon.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:46 (five months ago) link
Apparently Day6 is touring. My 13yo asked if she go to the gig. Duh
― nathom, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 16:52 (five months ago) link
Baek never disappoints; jazz watch 2019
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 11 July 2019 04:05 (four months ago) link
― Roz, Friday, 26 July 2019 00:57 (four months ago) link
Not sure where else to post this but I love this vietnamese track, thought folks here might enjoy.
― Will (kruezer2), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:02 (four months ago) link
new red velvet "umpah umpah" is a big improvement over "zimzalabim", not really up with their best but considering how dull this year's generally been i'll happily take this
― ufo, Monday, 19 August 2019 23:59 (three months ago) link
God, that Toc Tien track rules.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 17:53 (three months ago) link
Really the only track I like this year is Baekhyun's "UN Village" and the only Mini I like is his mini "City Lights"!
I mean, I stopped listening actively to Kpop but still.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 13:26 (three months ago) link
the only track i really love from this year has been red velvet's "sappy". feels like everything's even more caught up in bland trop house than before so i've been increasingly uninterested
― ufo, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 13:36 (three months ago) link
for me it's mostly just been
― lowercase (eric), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 13:47 (three months ago) link
feeling “UN Village” and “Love Talk”, thanks for those!
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:43 (three months ago) link
twice go deep house on "feel special", it's fun enough
― ufo, Monday, 23 September 2019 09:30 (two months ago) link
OKAY there are TWO tracks I like this year... one is Baekhyun's UN Village and the other is GWSN's The Interpretation of Dreams!
It's a throwback to the alt-RnB sound Kpop had in 2012-2013 and I'm here for it.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 6 October 2019 19:08 (two months ago) link
RIP Sulli, f(x) were the greatest so this is very sad
it's being investigated if her death was suicide and i've seen some places claim to confirm that it was, which would be extremely tragic
― ufo, Monday, 14 October 2019 11:15 (one month ago) link
Just saw this news, so heartbreaking. f(x) were indeed the greatest. :(
― Roz, Monday, 14 October 2019 12:29 (one month ago) link
Yeah, rip :( The Pink Tape is the best k-pop album, and one of the very best pop albums of the decade, imo.
― Frederik B, Monday, 14 October 2019 12:42 (one month ago) link
"Airplane" still rules
I always felt bad for Sulli, she was treated very badly by the Korean press over her dating "scandal" and basically not fitting in the image her label had crafted for her.
― Roz, Monday, 14 October 2019 12:48 (one month ago) link
yeah if it is indeed suicide it would unfortunately be not that surprising considering all the ridiculous shit she's had to deal with from the public and the press on top of her struggles with anxiety and depression
― ufo, Monday, 14 October 2019 12:56 (one month ago) link
Just watched this from June, have people seen this?
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 13:18 (one month ago) link
I'm sad about Sulli.
There's a photo that circulated a while back, of f(x) on the set of variety show A Song for You on their press junket for.... I can't remember? The one before 4walls.
Anyway the episode was edited to make it look like Sulli was not there, only the other four were. And they laugh and joke like everything's fine. But in the photo Sulli is sitting right next to them on set, basically catatonic/too depressed to function.
I think about this often because it shows the gap between image and reality. And Sulli more than others really suffered from this gap, I think.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 03:21 (one month ago) link
Hmm I found the clip - they were promoting Rum Pum Pum Pum just before Sulli's break from the group in 2014. Anyway out of respect I don't really want to link to the video but you can find it on omonatheydidn't by searching "f(x) a song for you".
Anyway the heartless capitalist logic... the social media logic... the entertainment industry logic of always needing to pretend that you are fine. And if you are not fine, well then, you simply won't appear at all.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 03:32 (one month ago) link
p basic but i really like ladies code 'set me free'
― oscar bravo, Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:12 (one month ago) link
also i was only so so on 'bon bon chocolat' so ended up being a couple of months late on everglow's follow up but i really like 'Adios' even though i get the urge to sing a speeded up 'god rest ye merry gentlemen' over the chorus break
― oscar bravo, Friday, 1 November 2019 17:01 (one month ago) link
didn't see it mention on this thread but one of my favourites from early in the year is mamamoo 'gogobebe'
― oscar bravo, Thursday, 7 November 2019 16:52 (one month ago) link
1 billion views (in 18 months) for BLACKPINK's "The Ddu-Du Song"
"Blackpink are the first K-pop band to join YouTube's 'billion views club'"- https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-50405408
Looks like everyone has been hit with that ddu-du.
So, tell me... Have they hit you with that ddu-du?
― sbahnhof, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 22:55 (three weeks ago) link
I am far from a scholar but this strikes me as a C+ jam at best
― Simon H., Wednesday, 13 November 2019 23:16 (three weeks ago) link
Rene bae has taken over my ig, don’t even know why
― June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 23:19 (three weeks ago) link
iirc the favourite blackpink tracks here are "whistle" and "if its your last" which are both fantastic. "ddu-du ddu-du" is still as mediocre as it was on release
― ufo, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 23:44 (three weeks ago) link
i like 'kill this love' a lot as well as 'ddu-du' and 'whistle'.
from earlier in the year i like hwash's solo 'twit'
also oneus 'twilight'
― oscar bravo, Thursday, 14 November 2019 16:26 (three weeks ago) link
*hwasa not hwash
― oscar bravo, Thursday, 14 November 2019 19:46 (three weeks ago) link
ddu du ddu du is a perfect storm of easily replicable song-specific dance, killer video (fennec fox! disco ball tank!) and a good jam, all of which travels well. not surprised it hit hard.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 15 November 2019 17:38 (three weeks ago) link
― abcfsk, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 15:48 (two weeks ago) link
― abcfsk, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 15:57 (two weeks ago) link
i like "unstable" but wish there were more to it than that
can't believe i completely forgot to post the Lim Kim single from last month:
i need to get around to her EP, this reinvention has been pretty wild
― ufo, Thursday, 21 November 2019 05:23 (two weeks ago) link
sadly I can't get into her new stuff at all, though I'm happy she seems happy doing what she loves.
Nice quick interview explaining her new direction: https://www.vice.com/en_in/article/xwe7kz/lim-kim-is-forging-an-independent-k-pop-revolution
― Roz, Sunday, 24 November 2019 15:04 (two weeks ago) link
more awful news:
― Wee Bloabby (NickB), Sunday, 24 November 2019 15:11 (two weeks ago) link
absolutely tragic that it came to this, KARA were fantastic and Hara had really been through a lot lately
― ufo, Sunday, 24 November 2019 20:47 (two weeks ago) link
Jesus, I was out the whole day and just saw this. Don’t know what to say anymore, this is so awful. Her asshole ex needs to be in jail.
The last photo she posted on IG is heartbreaking. Also, all her photos with Sulli. :(
― Roz, Monday, 25 November 2019 10:09 (two weeks ago) link
this is a surprisingly good list, apart from a few things like "good day" at #1 being both strange and boring
― ufo, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 06:42 (two weeks ago) link
Agreed - I’ve actually made my own top 100 list (which I’ll post when I have more time this week) and yeah there’s a lot of overlap with that one. I have a different IU track at no. 1, lol.
― Roz, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 17:09 (two weeks ago) link
https://www.instagram.com/p/B5SIbaglGzPAlways looks like she’s going to jail
― calstars, Thursday, 28 November 2019 01:08 (one week ago) link