1990: Was it really that bad of a year for music?

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Looking back, the 1990's were actually a great decade for music: with classics in grunge, shoegaze, metal, indie, the numerous subgenres of electronic music that cropped up during the decade, hip-hop/R'n'B, some proggier tendencies returning at the back half of the decade and some great, lasting pop music.

Looking at each individual year of the '90s, some seem to stand out more than others as being "notable" years (for want of a better term) - for example, 1991 is often cited as being a "strong" year in terms of releases. 1994 and 1997, too.

One year that doesn't seem to get talked about often is 1990.

It's not that there weren't any classics released in 1990: there was Violator and Behaviour, Megadeth's Rust in Peace... also there was Ritual de lo Habitual, a strong Paul Simon release (The Rhythm of the Saints) and a classic Public Enemy record - but still 1990 feels like somewhat of a quieter year, a less well-regarded vintage, particularly given how many great and still well-regarded records came out in 1989 and 1991.

So, why is this? Was it really that bad of a year and there were a lower than usual number of great albums put out this year? Were a lot of the bigger acts taking a break this year? Were Stock Aitken Waterman and Bros making pop less interesting? Was the truly good stuff this year actually happening in non-album genres?

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 2 November 2017 21:46 (three weeks ago) Permalink

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_in_music#Albums_released

Scanning through this list up to March, anyone who says this was a bad year for music is lying.

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Thursday, 2 November 2017 21:50 (three weeks ago) Permalink

There are no bad years for music

ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 2 November 2017 21:51 (three weeks ago) Permalink

The Simpsons Sing The Blues can't cancel out EVERYTHING

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Thursday, 2 November 2017 21:53 (three weeks ago) Permalink

dat stone cold yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvbZ3lsT5nw

hackshaw, Thursday, 2 November 2017 21:56 (three weeks ago) Permalink

(Everybody Everybody is one of the best songs ever, so that has to carry some weight.)

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:00 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Chill out/KLF + Happiness/Beloved = you mad. great year.

mark e, Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:01 (three weeks ago) Permalink

ok, that was stretching.
that list is not stuffed with greats.

mark e, Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:02 (three weeks ago) Permalink

this was the year of the crushed velvet apocalypse

imago, Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:03 (three weeks ago) Permalink

There are no bad years for music

― ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:51 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Indeed, which is partly why I've brought this topic up - 1990 feels curiously slept on for some reason, particularly of all the years of the '90s.

I'm interested to see what people come up with: what they were listening to at the time, whether they've discovered anything great that came out in 1990, and their general thoughts about music in 1990 and what was going on.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:05 (three weeks ago) Permalink

soul asylum's "and the horse they rode in on" came out... classic alternative. hey i wasn't even fugging born yet!

hackshaw, Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:05 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Nice Guys (Don't Get Paid)

hackshaw, Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i stand corrected :
1990 = AOC/Mecca, Chemicrazy/TPE, World Clique/Deee-lite
all time classic album IMHO.

mark e, Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink

1990 was awesome.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:10 (three weeks ago) Permalink

My top twenty four years ago and I'd change everything now:

1. Madonna – Vogue
2. The B-52’s – Roam
3. Black Box – Everybody Everybody
4. Adventures of Stevie V – Dirty Cash (Money Talks)
5. Soho – Hippychick
6. Depeche Mode – Enjoy The Silence
7. En Vogue – Hold On
8. Electronic – Getting Away With It
9. Lisa Stansfield – This is the Right Time
10. Roxette – Dangerous
11. Johnny Gil – Rub You the Right Way
12. Caron Wheeler – Livin’ in the Light
13. The Cure – Never Enough
14. A Tribe Called Quest – I Left My Wallet in El Segundo
15. Tony! Toni! Toné! – Feels Good
16. George Michael – Freedom ’90
17. Michael Penn – No Myth
18. Janet Jackson – Escapade
19. Peter Murphy – Cuts You Up
20. Ralph Tresvant – Sensitivity

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:10 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Looks like a great year to me

Jane's Addiction - Ritual de lo Habitual ,
Fugazi - Repeater,
Uncle Tupelo - No Depression,
Redd Kross - Third Eye,
Flaming Lips- In a Priest Driven Ambulance,
Winter - Into Darkness.
Entombed - Left Hand Path ,
Danzig - Danzig II: Lucifuge ,
Trouble - Trouble ,
Alice in Chains - Facelift ,
Manilla Road - The Courts of Chaos ,
Warrior Soul - Last Decade Dead Century ,
Prong - Beg to Differ ,
The Obsessed - The Obsessed ,
Sonic Youth - Goo ,
Ride - Nowhere ,
Poison Idea - Feel the Darkness ,
The KLF - Chill Out ,
Mark Lanegan - The Winding Sheet ,
Galaxie 500 - This Is Our Music ,
Jesus Lizard - Head ,
Loop - A Gilded Eternity ,
Front Line Assembly- Caustic Grip ,

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:12 (three weeks ago) Permalink

xxpost:

Cosmic Thing came out in '89 though, didn't it? I keep thinking that 'Roam' was the second single off the album, but it was more something like the fourth.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

"Roam" peaked in the American top forty in late winter '90.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:22 (three weeks ago) Permalink

so many fantastic songs in that list of 20

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:38 (three weeks ago) Permalink

also lol at one of the most undeniably classic songs having the year right there in the title

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:55 (three weeks ago) Permalink

In general, my impression of 90s music is bad, but upon further examination (which I got to do this year assisting Fluxblog with the 90s survey mixes) the cancer didn't really set in until 1996/97.

There's plenty to love in the early 90s, 1990 in particular!

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:01 (three weeks ago) Permalink

It's no 1989, but pretty solid, given: Bossanova, People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm, I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got, Goo, Behaviour, Fear of a Black Planet, World Clique, Songs for Drella, Chill Out, All Shook Down.Plus "Soon" (Glider EP), "Dub Be Good To Me", "Getting Away With It", "Step On", "Loaded", "The Power", "La Raza", "Mama Said Knock You Out", "Ride On Time", "Doin' The Do", "Hippychick", "Poison"...

Stuff I was listening to at the time was James, Ride, The House of Love. Plus 1990 saw the release of one of my top-3 albums of the decade, although I didn't hear it until a full year or so later: The Trouble Tree by Freedy Johnston. Bit of an anomaly (in terms of my listening habits as well as in the artist's discography). Weird, twisted tales from a singer-songwriter who at the time must have been listening to equal amounts Gram Parsons, Pixies, Randy Newman and The Fall.

dorsalstop, Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:04 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Coincidentally, I've been listening to Heaven or Las Vegas this afternoon, so that too.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:05 (three weeks ago) Permalink

SEX PACKETS

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Three all-time favourite cover versions that came out in 1990: "Only Love Can Break Your Heart"- Saint Etienne, "Hard To Handle" - Black Crowes, "Hurdy Gurdy Man" - Butthole Surfers.

dorsalstop, Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

my 1990 section looks kind of thin. most of it is the dean benedetti recordings of charlie parker. there was a good bastro record. doc corbin dart's "patricia". some decent metal - a good tape by dreadnot, records by nocturnus and obliveon that are pretty good. robyn hitchcock's "eye". ant-bee's "pure electric honey". good albums by vexed and uncle wiggly.

maybe it was a good year for music, but there's not a lot of stuff i listen to that came out that year.

bob lefse (rushomancy), Friday, 3 November 2017 02:10 (three weeks ago) Permalink

There definitely seems to have been better singles than individual albums in 1990. From the UK Top 50 of 1990, I'd say all of these were close to undeniable:

2 "Nothing Compares 2 U" Sinéad O'Connor
5 "Killer" Adamski
7 "Dub Be Good to Me" Beats International
8 "Vogue" Madonna
12 "A Little Time" The Beautiful South
14 "It Must Have Been Love" Roxette
18 "Black Velvet" Alannah Myles
19 "Dirty Cash (Money Talks)" The Adventures of Stevie V
26 "Groove Is in the Heart"/"What Is Love" Deee-Lite
30 "Unbelievable" EMF
31 "Naked in the Rain" Blue Pearl
32 "Tom's Diner" DNA featuring Suzanne Vega
38 "Better the Devil You Know" Kylie Minogue
43 "Justify My Love" Madonna
45 "Hold On" En Vogue
48 "What Time Is Love? (Live at Trancentral)" The KLF featuring the Children of the Revolution
49 "Got to Have Your Love" Mantronix featuring Wondress
50 "Step On" Happy Mondays

However, there was a lack of a "big pop group" to help boost the market like a Take That or Spice Girls, and commerical dance music still seemed to be getting its shit together. Still better than most years in the 2010s, though.

Custard Cream, Friday, 3 November 2017 02:23 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Torch of the Mystics! Plus Weeville, and God Ween Satan (I'm pretty sure that's '90, anyway).

Duane Barry, Friday, 3 November 2017 02:26 (three weeks ago) Permalink

yup. not to mention Blood Guts & Pussy

sleeve, Friday, 3 November 2017 02:55 (three weeks ago) Permalink

uh, My Bloody Valentine's 'Glider' was released in April of that year and contains "Soon" which remains my favorite song ever recorded so 1990 is actually the best year ever for music.

Spencer Chow, Friday, 3 November 2017 03:24 (three weeks ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMEEiGe4Tk8

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Friday, 3 November 2017 03:30 (three weeks ago) Permalink

also lol at one of the most undeniably classic songs having the year right there in the title

it was also time for the guru iirc

Is Turrican an AI created by feeding Rate Your Music mailing lists into a neural net? 1990 was an amazing year for music and I don't know who'd say otherwise

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Friday, 3 November 2017 03:39 (three weeks ago) Permalink

No mention of Reading, Writing & Arithmetic by The Sundays yet. That would join Heaven Or Las Vegas and Behaviour in my top three of the year.

kitchen person, Friday, 3 November 2017 03:42 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Jordan: The Comeback, Listen Without Prejudice Vol.1, Pod, Step In The Arena, Livin' Like Hustlers, Boomania and The Comforts Of Madness are a few other favourites that haven't been mentioned yet.

kitchen person, Friday, 3 November 2017 03:55 (three weeks ago) Permalink

badalementi - twin peaks soundtrack

Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 3 November 2017 04:13 (three weeks ago) Permalink

badalamenti*

Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 3 November 2017 04:13 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Vol. II: 1990 - A New Decade

geoffreyess, Friday, 3 November 2017 04:25 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Is Turrican an AI created by feeding Rate Your Music mailing lists into a neural net? 1990 was an amazing year for music and I don't know who'd say otherwise

― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Friday, November 3, 2017 3:39 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well, hardly anyone seems to bring up 1990 as some sort of gold standard year for music, hence the thread, which isn't designed to criticise the year, but to discuss the music that came out that year.

Great attempt to try and derail the thread by trying to provide me with something to negatively react to, though.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 06:25 (three weeks ago) Permalink

There definitely seems to have been better singles than individual albums in 1990.

Yeah, this is the kind of stance that I'm leaning towards, although I really like Odysseus' list.

'Nothing Compares 2 U' remains a great single, but how often do folks listen to the album these days? Does anyone here still really listen to World Party in 2017?

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 06:57 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Anyway, great posts dorsalstop & Custard Cream :)

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 06:58 (three weeks ago) Permalink

1990.... time for the gooroooo

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 3 November 2017 10:17 (three weeks ago) Permalink

1990 / Time For The Souffle

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 November 2017 10:20 (three weeks ago) Permalink

1990 was the year I discovered pop music. I was only 9 years old but receiving a radio and listening to it almost constantly opened up a world back from which I'd never come back. Lots of (in retrospect) bad dance-pop music, but I loved it. I wasn't old enough for albums, other than the two Now comps that came out that year. My big hits of that year:
Dub Be Good To Me, The Power, U Can't Touch This, Ghetto Heaven, Tricky Disco, LFO (loads of great ravey stuff), Birdhouse In Your Soul. I especially liked the rave stuff because it sounded nothing like my parents' music.

Shat Parp (dog latin), Friday, 3 November 2017 10:41 (three weeks ago) Permalink

this is what i got:

Codeine - Frigid Stars
Galaxie 500 - This Is Our Music
Babes In Toyland - Spanking Machine
The Blue Aeroplanes - Swagger
Cocteau Twins - Heaven Or Las Vegas
Mazzy Star - She Hangs Brightly
A Tribe Called Quest - People's Instinctive Travels And The Paths Of Rhythm
Prefab Sprout - Jordan: The Comeback
Fugazi - Repeater
Crime And The City Solution - Paradise Discotheque
Soul II Soul - Volume II 1990: A New Decade
The KLF - Chill Out
The Jesus Lizard - Head
Gang Starr - Step In The Arena
Wolfhounds - Attitude
Revolting Cocks ‎– Beers, Steers & Queers
Shut Up And Dance - Dance Before The Police Come!
Unrest - Kustom Karnal Blackxploitation
Thin White Rope - Sack Full Of Silver
Nice Strong Arm - Stress City
Electribe 101 - Electribal Memories
Pale Saints - The Comforts Of Madness
Bongwater - The Power Of Pussy
Paul Simon - The Rhythm Of The Saints
The Clean - Vehicle
Half Japanese - We Are They Who Ache With Amorous Love

plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 3 November 2017 10:42 (three weeks ago) Permalink

one of my favourite 1990-ish things now though is watching old dance energy clips w/ normski

plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 3 November 2017 10:49 (three weeks ago) Permalink

back from which I'd never come back

this ever changing world in which we live in

Shat Parp (dog latin), Friday, 3 November 2017 10:50 (three weeks ago) Permalink

1990 definitely has its very own aesthetic that seems quite apart from 89 and 91. You had those sort of festival-goth people with velvet stovepipe hats and tinted Lennon specs; and the music videos were either shot in a city in black and white or in a studio with the most lurid, frenzied superimposed backdrops ever seen. Bring back the ITV Chart Show

Shat Parp (dog latin), Friday, 3 November 2017 10:54 (three weeks ago) Permalink

that reminds me, i think that both the best Fields of The Nephilim album and maybe the worst Sisters of Mercy album were from 1990

plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 3 November 2017 10:57 (three weeks ago) Permalink

The only 1990 album in my entire iTunes library is Neil Young's Ragged Glory. I guess there has to be a couple more that I'm forgetting.

Dinsdale, Friday, 3 November 2017 11:27 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Seems like it's just based on the dullest possible rock canon consensus of pre-Grunge myopia. Why dignify it? Worth it for reading the 1990 / Time For The Souffle linked upthread tho with the same immediate 'why this again?!' responses ha.

nashwan, Friday, 3 November 2017 15:44 (three weeks ago) Permalink

My favorite house track ever was released in 1990 - Earth People (aka Pal Joey) - "Dance"

Spencer Chow, Friday, 3 November 2017 16:12 (three weeks ago) Permalink

also RON TRENT - ALTERED STATES

brimstead, Friday, 3 November 2017 16:20 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Joey Beltram - “Energy Flash”
Bobby Konders - “The Poem”
Eon - “Spice”
808 State - “Cubik” and U.S. LP ‘Utd. State 90’
49-ers “Touch Me” “Don’t You Love Me”
Double Dee feat. Dany - “found Love”
Psychotropic - Hypnosis
Technotronic - “Pump Up the Jam”

Spencer Chow, Friday, 3 November 2017 16:40 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Touch Me and Pump Up The Jam were 1989 /pedant

Colonel Poo, Friday, 3 November 2017 16:48 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Logic - "The Warning"
The Underground Solution (aka Roger Sanchez) - "Luv Dancin'"

Spencer Chow, Friday, 3 November 2017 16:48 (three weeks ago) Permalink

xpost, my bad - I respect pedantry

Spencer Chow, Friday, 3 November 2017 16:50 (three weeks ago) Permalink

UNIQUE 3 - THE THEME

brimstead, Friday, 3 November 2017 16:52 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Yes, sic, god forbid we talk about music on a music forum. If you don't like the discussion then don't participate. Simples.

Seems like it's just based on the dullest possible rock canon consensus of pre-Grunge myopia.

It actually isn't.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 16:54 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Touch Me and Pump Up The Jam were 1989 /pedant

This just proves that 1989-1991 is one big block of time.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 November 2017 16:55 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I got a walkman for my 13th birthday in 1989 and the music I was most into at the time was house, mostly what was in the charts, especially hip-house and acid. And Queen, but I think it was some kind of rule that 13 year old boys had to be into Queen in 1989.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 3 November 2017 16:56 (three weeks ago) Permalink

If you don't like the discussion then don't participate. Simples.

you should take your own advice sometimes

brimstead, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:01 (three weeks ago) Permalink

f you don't like the discussion then don't participate.
It actually isn't.

Criticism of the thread/question is part of the discussion. You didn't cite anything regarding the assertion of 1990 as a lesser time for critically acclaimed music or whatever. If you gave examples of where this was decided or who needs to be convinced otherwise it would create a better discussion.

nashwan, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:04 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I love the music that came out in 1990. That was a great year for music. So exciting for someone who loved UK indie and early house/techno and hip hop. Those genres blended together and hit the charts fairly often. Forgive me for not frequently coming out to wave the flag for that particular year. Nice job getting people to name their favorites though. I'm reminded of tons of great stuff. 1990 was my first year as a college radio DJ. No one has mentioned Every Beat of the Heart by Railway Children yet, so i'll add that to the pile of singles that were on heavy rotation. Also not ashamed to say I wore out my copy of the Lightning Seeds album that year (i'm from the US, so it was released in 1990 here - 89 in the UK).

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:09 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Valuable contribution to the discussion from brimstead there!

Nashwan, the point is that it's a lesser spoken about year, not a lesser year, which would have been clear if you'd read the opening post instead of just the title. At least dog latin gets it.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 17:12 (three weeks ago) Permalink

And numerous others have managed to talk about it without a degree of snark, too. I mean, if you guys want this place to be more pleasant, then be pleasant - and I'm obviously including myself in that too.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 17:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

the point is that it's a lesser spoken about year,

You've missed my point again which is asking for at least some evidence of these claims beyond Trump-style 'a lot of people reckon'.

nashwan, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:23 (three weeks ago) Permalink

"Many people" =/= "Hardly anyone", which, y'know, are the words I actually used.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 17:30 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Albums from 1990 that I liked then and still listen to:

Primus, Frizzle Fry
Prong, Beg to Differ
Robert Plant, Manic Nirvana
Depeche Mode, Violator
Nitzer Ebb, Showtime
Social Distortion, s/t
Public Enemy, Fear of a Black Planet
Celtic Frost, Vanity/Nemesis
A Tribe Called Quest, People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm
Dio, Lock Up the Wolves
Ice Cube, AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted
Deicide, s/t
Danzig, Lucifuge
Suicidal Tendencies, Lights...Camera...Revolution!
Pantera, Cowboys From Hell
Cannibal Corpse, Eaten Back to Life
Living Colour, Time's Up
Anthrax, Persistence of Time
Jane's Addiction, Ritual de lo Habitual
Judas Priest, Painkiller
Ministry, In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up
Neil Young and Crazy Horse, Ragged Glory
Obituary, Cause of Death
AC/DC, The Razors Edge
Megadeth, Rust in Peace
Testament, Souls of Black
Slayer, Seasons in the Abyss
Geto Boys, s/t
Dwight Yoakam, If There Was a Way
Kreator, Coma of Souls
Sisters of Mercy, Vision Thing
KMFDM, Naïve

Albums I liked at the time but haven't heard in years:

Brand Nubian, One for All
Soul II Soul, Vol. II - 1990: A New Decade
Beats International, Let Them Eat Bingo

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 3 November 2017 17:32 (three weeks ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI3C6MROOvY

mookieproof, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:38 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Turrican, it may help if you define and elaborate more on what research you did to make this claim "Looking at each individual year of the '90s". So what were your results? Did you track these in a spreadsheet? Would be interesting to hear about your research process. For example, how many mentions of 1990 vs. 1999 were there in your research? What was the sentiment on those posts mentioning 1990 vs. 1999? I'd be laughed out of my office if I made claims like you made without supporting with direct quotes and charts. Can we access the text of all ILX posts in a database? Were you using more than just ILX in your observations?

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:54 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Yup, precisely!

nashwan, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:57 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Valuable contribution to the discussion from brimstead there!

Thanks! gracious of you to acknowledge your own hypocrisy

brimstead, Friday, 3 November 2017 18:00 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Ooh, I'm liking unperson's list, as it gives a nice little overview of what the year was like from a metal/alternative rock fans perspective - yes, I know there's a couple of hip-hop LP's in there too, but I can see others have covered that side of the year, too.

One of the things I like about checking out what people were into at the time, particularly during years when music fandom was more tribal, is seeing how everyone comes at the same thing from a different angle.

I also quite like the idea of looking at 1990 as part of a longer period of time e.g. 1989-1991, in the same way that 1979-1981 feels like part of the same period musically.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 18:01 (three weeks ago) Permalink

this is what the reading festival looked like in 1990:

https://www.readingfestival.com/sites/live.inviqa.readingfestival.com/files/images/history/poster/1990.jpg

i went but i think i must have been off my nut the whole weekend cos i don't really remember seeing any of those bands at all apart from the cramps and tackhead. was hugely into the young gods and loop but a field in the middle of the afternnon isn't really the time or the place

plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 3 November 2017 18:12 (three weeks ago) Permalink

still dont know who the fuck an emotional fish are

plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 3 November 2017 18:13 (three weeks ago) Permalink

There's a woman at the end of the street always talking about football records, I was having a flick through discogs and I found what she was talking about. The rap is pretty good but I'm not so keen on the music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1VXJd7b9bA

saer, Friday, 3 November 2017 18:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

1990 singles

Lush - sweetness and light
my bloody valentine - soon/glider
the orb - little fluffy clouds
depeche mode - enjoy the silence
seal - crazy
sinead o connor - nothing compares 2 U

and the enigma album

was 6 in 1990, so yeah. favourite music was probably the tiny toons theme song tbh

Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 3 November 2017 18:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Brotherlovesdub, if you've talked about music with a variety of people in a variety of places over a long enough time, as well as read up a lot about music via a variety of sources, then you begin to notice patterns and/or trends and some things become noticeably more discussed than other things, while other things recede into the background.

As for the spreadsheet stuff, I'll keep my thoughts to myself on that one.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 18:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, that first Trash Can Sinatras album is still so good. Another 1990 gem. https://www.discogs.com/The-Trash-Can-Sinatras-Cake/release/1803974

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 3 November 2017 18:20 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Thanks! gracious of you to acknowledge your own hypocrisy

― brimstead, Friday, November 3, 2017 6:00 PM (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You're welcome, and if you really want me to knock the snark on the head, I'd start by not being a provocative idiot.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 18:21 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Still jam this on the reg

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/516eno-vIWL.jpg

nashwan, Friday, 3 November 2017 18:27 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Whoa, the Reading '90 poster! Faith No More would have still been touring The Real Thing. It's easy to forget how popular the Inspiral Carpets were, they seem to be mostly discussed as a distant third to The Stone Roses and Happy Mondays, while the likes of The Charlatans and Blur moved on and eclipsed them.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 18:28 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Huh, Frank Tovey played the Mean Fiddler Stage!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 18:30 (three weeks ago) Permalink

that's the one name that really leapt out at me looking back at it now. wouldn't have known who he was at the time, now i would kill to have seen him live

plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 3 November 2017 18:36 (three weeks ago) Permalink

was there ever a bloke-ier line-up though? fuck, there's only about three women on the entire bill

plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 3 November 2017 18:39 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I only ever saw Tovey live once, supporting Depeche Mode on the tour for Exciter (as Fad Gadget) and he was great. I'm glad I got to see him at least once!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 18:41 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Also released in 1990, Ultra Vivid Scene - Joy 1967-1990 is one of my all-time favorite albums.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 3 November 2017 21:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

then you begin to notice patterns and/or trends and some things become noticeably more discussed than other things, while other things recede into the background
Sounds like pure confirmation bias/expectation bias to me, though I happen to have noticed this same pattern and/or share this bias.

dorsalstop, Saturday, 4 November 2017 13:49 (two weeks ago) Permalink

It's neither, tbh.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Saturday, 4 November 2017 15:14 (two weeks ago) Permalink

seal - crazy

Oh shit, I'd forgotten that this was released in '90 (the album came out the following year), but yeah this is great.

Seal's early stuff in general was great, IMO.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Saturday, 4 November 2017 15:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

^ cosign

Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 4 November 2017 16:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I vehemently disagree that 1990 was a bad year for music but it may be personal biases at work. I turned 21 that January and moved (back) to New York in October, 1989 and immediately started working at Tower Records in the Village and not long afterwards started writing for whomever would let me. I was a sponge living in a city I loved and trying to listen to anything and everything but especially the metallic stuff. Here is a list of albums I loved and still hold an affinity for, in alphabetical order...

1000 Homo DJs - Supernaut
Alice in Chains - Facelift
Anthrax - Persistence of Time
Atrophy - Violent by Nature
Bad Brains - The Youth Are Getting Restless
Bad Religion - Against the Grain
Bathory - Hammerheart
The Black Crowes - Shake Your Money Maker
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - The Good Son
Concrete Blonde - Bloodletting
Course of Empire - Course of Empire
The Cramps - Stay Sick!
Death - Spiritual Healing
Dread Zeppelin - Un-Led-Ed
Dwarves - Blood Guts & Pussy
Entombed - Left Hand Path
Fields of the Nephilim - Elizium
The Fluid - Glue
Fugazi - Repeater
GWAR - Scumdogs of the Universe
Ice Cube - AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted
Jane's Addiction - Ritual de lo habitual
Judas Priest - Painkiller
Killing Joke - Extremities, Dirt and Various Repressed Emotions
King's X - Faith Hope Love
L7 - Smell the Magic
Lard - The Last Temptation of Reid
Loop - A Gilded Eternity
Love / Hate - Blackout in the Red Room
Manitoba's Wild Kingdom - ...And You?
Bob Mould - Black Sheets of Rain
Nausea - Extinction
Nocturnus - The Key
Obituary - Cause of Death
The Obsessed - The Obsessed
Pantera - Cowboys From Hell
Paris - The Devil Made Me Do It
Pixies - Bossanova
Poison Idea - Feel the Darkness
Iggy Pop - Brick by Brick
Pop Will Eat Itself - Cure for Sanity
The Posies - Dear 23
Primus - Frizzle Fry
Prong - Beg to Differ
Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet
Redd Kross - Third Eye
Revolting Cocks - Beers, Steers + Queers
Sacred Reich - The American Way
Scatterbrain - Here Comes Trouble
Silverfish - Fat Axl
The Sisters of Mercy - Vision Thing
Skinny Puppy - Too Dark Park
Slayer - Seasons in the Abyss
Social Distortion - Social Distortion
Sonic Youth - Goo
Tad - Salt Lick
Testament - Souls of Black
Thee Hypnotics - Come Down Heavy
Trouble - Trouble
Uncle Tupelo - No Depression
Venus Beads - Transfixed
Vicious Rumors - Vicious Rumors
Warrior Soul - Last Decade Dead Century
Wartime - Fast Food for Thought
John Zorn - Naked City

On this list include my favorite albums by Bad Religion, Death, Entombed, GWAR, Pantera, Primus, Prong, Skinny Puppy, Sonic Youth and John Zorn. I still play a lot of them. The Course of Empire is one of my favorite albums to this day.

So yeah, come at me 1990 haters. I'll fight you!

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 4 November 2017 23:11 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Without having read the rest of this thread: That's a great list of albums right there.

beard papa, Sunday, 5 November 2017 07:27 (two weeks ago) Permalink

In 1990 I turned 27 and a friend turned me into indie music. And I was very surprised how much excellent stuff was out there. Definitely one of the greatest years of rock music. Albums I love to pieces which have been mentioned:
The House of Love - "Butterfly" (my fave of 1990 what a glorious record, they should have been as big as The Smiths)
Cocteau Twins - Heaven or Las Vegas (still my fave of theirs, the word ethereal was invented for them)
Sonic Youth - Goo (accessible but still rough and edgy)
The Pixies - Bossanova (their most pop album, almost smooth)
Blue Aeroplanes - Swagger (still a milestone of half spoken word indie, campfire music)
The Chills - Submarine Bells (where the Beach Boys and Daniel Johnston meet)
Neil Young - Ragged Glory (where Neil rocked out again)
Lou Reed & John Cale - Songs for Drella (the tribute album of 1990, each song immediately recognisable as by Reed or by Cale)

Not mentioned yet:
The Breeders - Pod (their best)
Swell - s/t (almost as good as their seminal 41)

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Sunday, 5 November 2017 07:43 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Eno/Cale - Wrong Way Up came out in 1990, and a perfect amalgam of their talents it is.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 5 November 2017 20:54 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Wrong Way Up is great. It didn't make a broad impact at the time but it remains in my collection, unlike so many of the other titles listed ITT.

I recall the New Zealand music scene starting to gain wider notice in North America in 1990. Maybe not as influential as the Pacific Northwest was about to become but definitely longer lasting for me. SPIN did a story around that time and a friend brought me back a copy of the Tuatara comp that she picked up while on a trip to NZ that summer. There are several significant NZ releases from 1990 already noted but I'd also suggest the Plagal Grind EP and TKOP's A Beard of Bees, which is still an absolutely magical listen.

doug watson, Monday, 6 November 2017 15:24 (two weeks ago) Permalink

My mistake, Beard of Bees was actually 1984 release. It was the Xpressway cassette that dropped in 1990. Fantastic album, even if it doesn't strengthen this particular argument.

doug watson, Monday, 6 November 2017 15:36 (two weeks ago) Permalink

One massive NZ album from 1990:

The Dead C. - Trapdoor Fucking Exit

plp will eat itself (NickB), Monday, 6 November 2017 16:00 (two weeks ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LWN9d9X-6o

boxedjoy, Friday, 10 November 2017 09:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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