1990: Was it really that bad of a year for music?

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Looking back, the 1990's were actually a great decade for music: with classics in grunge, shoegaze, metal, indie, the numerous subgenres of electronic music that cropped up during the decade, hip-hop/R'n'B, some proggier tendencies returning at the back half of the decade and some great, lasting pop music.

Looking at each individual year of the '90s, some seem to stand out more than others as being "notable" years (for want of a better term) - for example, 1991 is often cited as being a "strong" year in terms of releases. 1994 and 1997, too.

One year that doesn't seem to get talked about often is 1990.

It's not that there weren't any classics released in 1990: there was Violator and Behaviour, Megadeth's Rust in Peace... also there was Ritual de lo Habitual, a strong Paul Simon release (The Rhythm of the Saints) and a classic Public Enemy record - but still 1990 feels like somewhat of a quieter year, a less well-regarded vintage, particularly given how many great and still well-regarded records came out in 1989 and 1991.

So, why is this? Was it really that bad of a year and there were a lower than usual number of great albums put out this year? Were a lot of the bigger acts taking a break this year? Were Stock Aitken Waterman and Bros making pop less interesting? Was the truly good stuff this year actually happening in non-album genres?

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 2 November 2017 21:46 (two years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_in_music#Albums_released

Scanning through this list up to March, anyone who says this was a bad year for music is lying.

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Thursday, 2 November 2017 21:50 (two years ago) link

There are no bad years for music

ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 2 November 2017 21:51 (two years ago) link

The Simpsons Sing The Blues can't cancel out EVERYTHING

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Thursday, 2 November 2017 21:53 (two years ago) link

dat stone cold yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvbZ3lsT5nw

hackshaw, Thursday, 2 November 2017 21:56 (two years ago) link

(Everybody Everybody is one of the best songs ever, so that has to carry some weight.)

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:00 (two years ago) link

Chill out/KLF + Happiness/Beloved = you mad. great year.

mark e, Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:01 (two years ago) link

ok, that was stretching.
that list is not stuffed with greats.

mark e, Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:02 (two years ago) link

this was the year of the crushed velvet apocalypse

imago, Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:03 (two years ago) link

There are no bad years for music

― ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:51 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Indeed, which is partly why I've brought this topic up - 1990 feels curiously slept on for some reason, particularly of all the years of the '90s.

I'm interested to see what people come up with: what they were listening to at the time, whether they've discovered anything great that came out in 1990, and their general thoughts about music in 1990 and what was going on.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:05 (two years ago) link

soul asylum's "and the horse they rode in on" came out... classic alternative. hey i wasn't even fugging born yet!

hackshaw, Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:05 (two years ago) link

Nice Guys (Don't Get Paid)

hackshaw, Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:08 (two years ago) link

i stand corrected :
1990 = AOC/Mecca, Chemicrazy/TPE, World Clique/Deee-lite
all time classic album IMHO.

mark e, Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:08 (two years ago) link

1990 was awesome.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:10 (two years ago) link

My top twenty four years ago and I'd change everything now:

1. Madonna – Vogue
2. The B-52’s – Roam
3. Black Box – Everybody Everybody
4. Adventures of Stevie V – Dirty Cash (Money Talks)
5. Soho – Hippychick
6. Depeche Mode – Enjoy The Silence
7. En Vogue – Hold On
8. Electronic – Getting Away With It
9. Lisa Stansfield – This is the Right Time
10. Roxette – Dangerous
11. Johnny Gil – Rub You the Right Way
12. Caron Wheeler – Livin’ in the Light
13. The Cure – Never Enough
14. A Tribe Called Quest – I Left My Wallet in El Segundo
15. Tony! Toni! Toné! – Feels Good
16. George Michael – Freedom ’90
17. Michael Penn – No Myth
18. Janet Jackson – Escapade
19. Peter Murphy – Cuts You Up
20. Ralph Tresvant – Sensitivity

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:10 (two years ago) link

Looks like a great year to me

Jane's Addiction - Ritual de lo Habitual ,
Fugazi - Repeater,
Uncle Tupelo - No Depression,
Redd Kross - Third Eye,
Flaming Lips- In a Priest Driven Ambulance,
Winter - Into Darkness.
Entombed - Left Hand Path ,
Danzig - Danzig II: Lucifuge ,
Trouble - Trouble ,
Alice in Chains - Facelift ,
Manilla Road - The Courts of Chaos ,
Warrior Soul - Last Decade Dead Century ,
Prong - Beg to Differ ,
The Obsessed - The Obsessed ,
Sonic Youth - Goo ,
Ride - Nowhere ,
Poison Idea - Feel the Darkness ,
The KLF - Chill Out ,
Mark Lanegan - The Winding Sheet ,
Galaxie 500 - This Is Our Music ,
Jesus Lizard - Head ,
Loop - A Gilded Eternity ,
Front Line Assembly- Caustic Grip ,

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:12 (two years ago) link

xxpost:

Cosmic Thing came out in '89 though, didn't it? I keep thinking that 'Roam' was the second single off the album, but it was more something like the fourth.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:19 (two years ago) link

"Roam" peaked in the American top forty in late winter '90.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:22 (two years ago) link

so many fantastic songs in that list of 20

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:38 (two years ago) link

also lol at one of the most undeniably classic songs having the year right there in the title

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:55 (two years ago) link

In general, my impression of 90s music is bad, but upon further examination (which I got to do this year assisting Fluxblog with the 90s survey mixes) the cancer didn't really set in until 1996/97.

There's plenty to love in the early 90s, 1990 in particular!

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:01 (two years ago) link

It's no 1989, but pretty solid, given: Bossanova, People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm, I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got, Goo, Behaviour, Fear of a Black Planet, World Clique, Songs for Drella, Chill Out, All Shook Down.Plus "Soon" (Glider EP), "Dub Be Good To Me", "Getting Away With It", "Step On", "Loaded", "The Power", "La Raza", "Mama Said Knock You Out", "Ride On Time", "Doin' The Do", "Hippychick", "Poison"...

Stuff I was listening to at the time was James, Ride, The House of Love. Plus 1990 saw the release of one of my top-3 albums of the decade, although I didn't hear it until a full year or so later: The Trouble Tree by Freedy Johnston. Bit of an anomaly (in terms of my listening habits as well as in the artist's discography). Weird, twisted tales from a singer-songwriter who at the time must have been listening to equal amounts Gram Parsons, Pixies, Randy Newman and The Fall.

dorsalstop, Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:04 (two years ago) link

Coincidentally, I've been listening to Heaven or Las Vegas this afternoon, so that too.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:05 (two years ago) link

SEX PACKETS

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:08 (two years ago) link

Three all-time favourite cover versions that came out in 1990: "Only Love Can Break Your Heart"- Saint Etienne, "Hard To Handle" - Black Crowes, "Hurdy Gurdy Man" - Butthole Surfers.

dorsalstop, Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:16 (two years ago) link

my 1990 section looks kind of thin. most of it is the dean benedetti recordings of charlie parker. there was a good bastro record. doc corbin dart's "patricia". some decent metal - a good tape by dreadnot, records by nocturnus and obliveon that are pretty good. robyn hitchcock's "eye". ant-bee's "pure electric honey". good albums by vexed and uncle wiggly.

maybe it was a good year for music, but there's not a lot of stuff i listen to that came out that year.

bob lefse (rushomancy), Friday, 3 November 2017 02:10 (two years ago) link

There definitely seems to have been better singles than individual albums in 1990. From the UK Top 50 of 1990, I'd say all of these were close to undeniable:

2 "Nothing Compares 2 U" Sinéad O'Connor
5 "Killer" Adamski
7 "Dub Be Good to Me" Beats International
8 "Vogue" Madonna
12 "A Little Time" The Beautiful South
14 "It Must Have Been Love" Roxette
18 "Black Velvet" Alannah Myles
19 "Dirty Cash (Money Talks)" The Adventures of Stevie V
26 "Groove Is in the Heart"/"What Is Love" Deee-Lite
30 "Unbelievable" EMF
31 "Naked in the Rain" Blue Pearl
32 "Tom's Diner" DNA featuring Suzanne Vega
38 "Better the Devil You Know" Kylie Minogue
43 "Justify My Love" Madonna
45 "Hold On" En Vogue
48 "What Time Is Love? (Live at Trancentral)" The KLF featuring the Children of the Revolution
49 "Got to Have Your Love" Mantronix featuring Wondress
50 "Step On" Happy Mondays

However, there was a lack of a "big pop group" to help boost the market like a Take That or Spice Girls, and commerical dance music still seemed to be getting its shit together. Still better than most years in the 2010s, though.

Custard Cream, Friday, 3 November 2017 02:23 (two years ago) link

Torch of the Mystics! Plus Weeville, and God Ween Satan (I'm pretty sure that's '90, anyway).

Duane Barry, Friday, 3 November 2017 02:26 (two years ago) link

yup. not to mention Blood Guts & Pussy

sleeve, Friday, 3 November 2017 02:55 (two years ago) link

uh, My Bloody Valentine's 'Glider' was released in April of that year and contains "Soon" which remains my favorite song ever recorded so 1990 is actually the best year ever for music.

Spencer Chow, Friday, 3 November 2017 03:24 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMEEiGe4Tk8

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Friday, 3 November 2017 03:30 (two years ago) link

also lol at one of the most undeniably classic songs having the year right there in the title

it was also time for the guru iirc

Is Turrican an AI created by feeding Rate Your Music mailing lists into a neural net? 1990 was an amazing year for music and I don't know who'd say otherwise

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Friday, 3 November 2017 03:39 (two years ago) link

No mention of Reading, Writing & Arithmetic by The Sundays yet. That would join Heaven Or Las Vegas and Behaviour in my top three of the year.

kitchen person, Friday, 3 November 2017 03:42 (two years ago) link

Jordan: The Comeback, Listen Without Prejudice Vol.1, Pod, Step In The Arena, Livin' Like Hustlers, Boomania and The Comforts Of Madness are a few other favourites that haven't been mentioned yet.

kitchen person, Friday, 3 November 2017 03:55 (two years ago) link

badalementi - twin peaks soundtrack

Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 3 November 2017 04:13 (two years ago) link

badalamenti*

Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 3 November 2017 04:13 (two years ago) link

Vol. II: 1990 - A New Decade

geoffreyess, Friday, 3 November 2017 04:25 (two years ago) link

Is Turrican an AI created by feeding Rate Your Music mailing lists into a neural net? 1990 was an amazing year for music and I don't know who'd say otherwise

― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Friday, November 3, 2017 3:39 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well, hardly anyone seems to bring up 1990 as some sort of gold standard year for music, hence the thread, which isn't designed to criticise the year, but to discuss the music that came out that year.

Great attempt to try and derail the thread by trying to provide me with something to negatively react to, though.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 06:25 (two years ago) link

There definitely seems to have been better singles than individual albums in 1990.

Yeah, this is the kind of stance that I'm leaning towards, although I really like Odysseus' list.

'Nothing Compares 2 U' remains a great single, but how often do folks listen to the album these days? Does anyone here still really listen to World Party in 2017?

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 06:57 (two years ago) link

Anyway, great posts dorsalstop & Custard Cream :)

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 06:58 (two years ago) link

1990.... time for the gooroooo

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 3 November 2017 10:17 (two years ago) link

1990 / Time For The Souffle

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 November 2017 10:20 (two years ago) link

1990 was the year I discovered pop music. I was only 9 years old but receiving a radio and listening to it almost constantly opened up a world back from which I'd never come back. Lots of (in retrospect) bad dance-pop music, but I loved it. I wasn't old enough for albums, other than the two Now comps that came out that year. My big hits of that year:
Dub Be Good To Me, The Power, U Can't Touch This, Ghetto Heaven, Tricky Disco, LFO (loads of great ravey stuff), Birdhouse In Your Soul. I especially liked the rave stuff because it sounded nothing like my parents' music.

Shat Parp (dog latin), Friday, 3 November 2017 10:41 (two years ago) link

this is what i got:

Codeine - Frigid Stars
Galaxie 500 - This Is Our Music
Babes In Toyland - Spanking Machine
The Blue Aeroplanes - Swagger
Cocteau Twins - Heaven Or Las Vegas
Mazzy Star - She Hangs Brightly
A Tribe Called Quest - People's Instinctive Travels And The Paths Of Rhythm
Prefab Sprout - Jordan: The Comeback
Fugazi - Repeater
Crime And The City Solution - Paradise Discotheque
Soul II Soul - Volume II 1990: A New Decade
The KLF - Chill Out
The Jesus Lizard - Head
Gang Starr - Step In The Arena
Wolfhounds - Attitude
Revolting Cocks ‎– Beers, Steers & Queers
Shut Up And Dance - Dance Before The Police Come!
Unrest - Kustom Karnal Blackxploitation
Thin White Rope - Sack Full Of Silver
Nice Strong Arm - Stress City
Electribe 101 - Electribal Memories
Pale Saints - The Comforts Of Madness
Bongwater - The Power Of Pussy
Paul Simon - The Rhythm Of The Saints
The Clean - Vehicle
Half Japanese - We Are They Who Ache With Amorous Love

plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 3 November 2017 10:42 (two years ago) link

one of my favourite 1990-ish things now though is watching old dance energy clips w/ normski

plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 3 November 2017 10:49 (two years ago) link

back from which I'd never come back

this ever changing world in which we live in

Shat Parp (dog latin), Friday, 3 November 2017 10:50 (two years ago) link

1990 definitely has its very own aesthetic that seems quite apart from 89 and 91. You had those sort of festival-goth people with velvet stovepipe hats and tinted Lennon specs; and the music videos were either shot in a city in black and white or in a studio with the most lurid, frenzied superimposed backdrops ever seen. Bring back the ITV Chart Show

Shat Parp (dog latin), Friday, 3 November 2017 10:54 (two years ago) link

that reminds me, i think that both the best Fields of The Nephilim album and maybe the worst Sisters of Mercy album were from 1990

plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 3 November 2017 10:57 (two years ago) link

The only 1990 album in my entire iTunes library is Neil Young's Ragged Glory. I guess there has to be a couple more that I'm forgetting.

Dinsdale, Friday, 3 November 2017 11:27 (two years ago) link

Huh, Frank Tovey played the Mean Fiddler Stage!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 18:30 (two years ago) link

that's the one name that really leapt out at me looking back at it now. wouldn't have known who he was at the time, now i would kill to have seen him live

plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 3 November 2017 18:36 (two years ago) link

was there ever a bloke-ier line-up though? fuck, there's only about three women on the entire bill

plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 3 November 2017 18:39 (two years ago) link

I only ever saw Tovey live once, supporting Depeche Mode on the tour for Exciter (as Fad Gadget) and he was great. I'm glad I got to see him at least once!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 18:41 (two years ago) link

Also released in 1990, Ultra Vivid Scene - Joy 1967-1990 is one of my all-time favorite albums.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 3 November 2017 21:19 (two years ago) link

then you begin to notice patterns and/or trends and some things become noticeably more discussed than other things, while other things recede into the background
Sounds like pure confirmation bias/expectation bias to me, though I happen to have noticed this same pattern and/or share this bias.

dorsalstop, Saturday, 4 November 2017 13:49 (two years ago) link

It's neither, tbh.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Saturday, 4 November 2017 15:14 (two years ago) link

seal - crazy

Oh shit, I'd forgotten that this was released in '90 (the album came out the following year), but yeah this is great.

Seal's early stuff in general was great, IMO.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Saturday, 4 November 2017 15:20 (two years ago) link

^ cosign

Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 4 November 2017 16:56 (two years ago) link

I vehemently disagree that 1990 was a bad year for music but it may be personal biases at work. I turned 21 that January and moved (back) to New York in October, 1989 and immediately started working at Tower Records in the Village and not long afterwards started writing for whomever would let me. I was a sponge living in a city I loved and trying to listen to anything and everything but especially the metallic stuff. Here is a list of albums I loved and still hold an affinity for, in alphabetical order...

1000 Homo DJs - Supernaut
Alice in Chains - Facelift
Anthrax - Persistence of Time
Atrophy - Violent by Nature
Bad Brains - The Youth Are Getting Restless
Bad Religion - Against the Grain
Bathory - Hammerheart
The Black Crowes - Shake Your Money Maker
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - The Good Son
Concrete Blonde - Bloodletting
Course of Empire - Course of Empire
The Cramps - Stay Sick!
Death - Spiritual Healing
Dread Zeppelin - Un-Led-Ed
Dwarves - Blood Guts & Pussy
Entombed - Left Hand Path
Fields of the Nephilim - Elizium
The Fluid - Glue
Fugazi - Repeater
GWAR - Scumdogs of the Universe
Ice Cube - AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted
Jane's Addiction - Ritual de lo habitual
Judas Priest - Painkiller
Killing Joke - Extremities, Dirt and Various Repressed Emotions
King's X - Faith Hope Love
L7 - Smell the Magic
Lard - The Last Temptation of Reid
Loop - A Gilded Eternity
Love / Hate - Blackout in the Red Room
Manitoba's Wild Kingdom - ...And You?
Bob Mould - Black Sheets of Rain
Nausea - Extinction
Nocturnus - The Key
Obituary - Cause of Death
The Obsessed - The Obsessed
Pantera - Cowboys From Hell
Paris - The Devil Made Me Do It
Pixies - Bossanova
Poison Idea - Feel the Darkness
Iggy Pop - Brick by Brick
Pop Will Eat Itself - Cure for Sanity
The Posies - Dear 23
Primus - Frizzle Fry
Prong - Beg to Differ
Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet
Redd Kross - Third Eye
Revolting Cocks - Beers, Steers + Queers
Sacred Reich - The American Way
Scatterbrain - Here Comes Trouble
Silverfish - Fat Axl
The Sisters of Mercy - Vision Thing
Skinny Puppy - Too Dark Park
Slayer - Seasons in the Abyss
Social Distortion - Social Distortion
Sonic Youth - Goo
Tad - Salt Lick
Testament - Souls of Black
Thee Hypnotics - Come Down Heavy
Trouble - Trouble
Uncle Tupelo - No Depression
Venus Beads - Transfixed
Vicious Rumors - Vicious Rumors
Warrior Soul - Last Decade Dead Century
Wartime - Fast Food for Thought
John Zorn - Naked City

On this list include my favorite albums by Bad Religion, Death, Entombed, GWAR, Pantera, Primus, Prong, Skinny Puppy, Sonic Youth and John Zorn. I still play a lot of them. The Course of Empire is one of my favorite albums to this day.

So yeah, come at me 1990 haters. I'll fight you!

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 4 November 2017 23:11 (two years ago) link

Without having read the rest of this thread: That's a great list of albums right there.

beard papa, Sunday, 5 November 2017 07:27 (two years ago) link

In 1990 I turned 27 and a friend turned me into indie music. And I was very surprised how much excellent stuff was out there. Definitely one of the greatest years of rock music. Albums I love to pieces which have been mentioned:
The House of Love - "Butterfly" (my fave of 1990 what a glorious record, they should have been as big as The Smiths)
Cocteau Twins - Heaven or Las Vegas (still my fave of theirs, the word ethereal was invented for them)
Sonic Youth - Goo (accessible but still rough and edgy)
The Pixies - Bossanova (their most pop album, almost smooth)
Blue Aeroplanes - Swagger (still a milestone of half spoken word indie, campfire music)
The Chills - Submarine Bells (where the Beach Boys and Daniel Johnston meet)
Neil Young - Ragged Glory (where Neil rocked out again)
Lou Reed & John Cale - Songs for Drella (the tribute album of 1990, each song immediately recognisable as by Reed or by Cale)

Not mentioned yet:
The Breeders - Pod (their best)
Swell - s/t (almost as good as their seminal 41)

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Sunday, 5 November 2017 07:43 (two years ago) link

Eno/Cale - Wrong Way Up came out in 1990, and a perfect amalgam of their talents it is.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 5 November 2017 20:54 (two years ago) link

Wrong Way Up is great. It didn't make a broad impact at the time but it remains in my collection, unlike so many of the other titles listed ITT.

I recall the New Zealand music scene starting to gain wider notice in North America in 1990. Maybe not as influential as the Pacific Northwest was about to become but definitely longer lasting for me. SPIN did a story around that time and a friend brought me back a copy of the Tuatara comp that she picked up while on a trip to NZ that summer. There are several significant NZ releases from 1990 already noted but I'd also suggest the Plagal Grind EP and TKOP's A Beard of Bees, which is still an absolutely magical listen.

doug watson, Monday, 6 November 2017 15:24 (two years ago) link

My mistake, Beard of Bees was actually 1984 release. It was the Xpressway cassette that dropped in 1990. Fantastic album, even if it doesn't strengthen this particular argument.

doug watson, Monday, 6 November 2017 15:36 (two years ago) link

One massive NZ album from 1990:

The Dead C. - Trapdoor Fucking Exit

plp will eat itself (NickB), Monday, 6 November 2017 16:00 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LWN9d9X-6o

boxedjoy, Friday, 10 November 2017 09:44 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

To answer the question, maybe?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 March 2020 02:21 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

Maybe I'll use this thread to document the completely random trail I've found myself on over the last couple of days. Namely, listening (without prejudice) to a long string of pop albums from 1990 that I've never heard before. Thus far:

Oleta Adams - Circle of One
Al B. Sure! - Private Times...and the Whole 9!
Laura Branigan - s/t
Bernadette Cooper - Drama According to Bernadette Cooper
Deee-Lite - World Clique
Digital Underground - Sex Packets
Dino - Swingin'

The best of the lot has been the Bernadette 'Klymaxx' Cooper album, a sharp and fun Prince-not-Prince jam in the same league as another long-standing 1990 favorite, A'me Lorain's Starring in...Standing in a Monkey Sea. The Branigan album was surprisingly solid if a bit sonically anachronistic. The Deee-Lite album was, aside from the obvious outlier, kind of a disappointing snooze tbh. Oleta is good value but I guess not much of a pop album per se. The rest...eh.

I guess I'm continuing with this experiment for the time being, to the extent that anyone cares.

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 14:14 (two weeks ago) link

Wow -- I was listening to Circle of One again yesterday! I enjoy Adams' voice and piano playing and her modest little tunes. I'll admit, though, that I listened again because at a friend's service two weeks ago one of his other buddies played Adams' cover of "Everything Must Change," which devastated me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDlYyjDOzko

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 14:19 (two weeks ago) link

I love World Clique, full stop. I regard it as a collection of exemplary house pop.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 14:19 (two weeks ago) link

Sex Packets was fine, with some definite fun highlights, but it's pretty uneven. Seems like an early victim of 'must fill every available minute of time on this new CD format!' bloat.

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 14:20 (two weeks ago) link

We might've been listening to Circle of One at the same time! I'm definitely going to listen to more Oleta Adams now, for sure. I've always really liked her cover of 'Get Here' and was pleasantly surprised by her stylistic breadth and, yeah, her voice.

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 14:22 (two weeks ago) link

Rather generous of Roland Orzabal to produce it without turning it into TFF.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 14:22 (two weeks ago) link

Here was this week in 1990 on American Top 40. Conclusion: 1990 was awesome fuiud.

1 2 BLACK VELVET –•– Alannah Myles – 12 (1)
2 4 LOVE WILL LEAD YOU BACK –•– Taylor Dayne – 9 (2)
3 1 ESCAPADE –•– Janet Jackson – 10 (1)
4 3 ROAM –•– The B-52’s – 14 (3)
5 8 I WISH IT WOULD RAIN DOWN –•– Phil Collins – 8 (5)
6 14 I’LL BE YOUR EVERYTHING –•– Tommy Page – 6 (6)
7 12 ALL AROUND THE WORLD –•– Lisa Stansfield – 8 (7)
8 6 I GO TO EXTREMES –•– Billy Joel – 11 (6)
9 15 KEEP IT TOGETHER –•– Madonna – 8 (9)
10 17 GET UP! (BEFORE THE NIGHT IS OVER) –•– Technotronic – 9 (10)

11 10 C’MON AND GET MY LOVE –•– D-Mob – 15 (10)
12 24 DON’T WANNA FALL IN LOVE –•– Jane Child – 7 (12)
13 16 NO MYTH –•– Michael Penn – 12 (13)
14 7 NO MORE LIES –•– Michel’le – 19 (7)
15 21 HERE AND NOW –•– Luther Vandross – 14 (15)
16 22 ALL MY LIFE –•– Linda Ronstadt & Aaron Neville – 7 (16)
17 23 FOREVER –•– KISS – 8 (17)
18 9 JUST A FRIEND –•– Biz Markie – 10 (9)
19 19 SACRIFICE –•– Elton John – 11 (19)
20 5 PRICE OF LOVE –•– Bad English – 14 (5)

21 11 DANGEROUS –•– Roxette – 15 (2)
22 18 OPPOSITES ATTRACT –•– Paula Abdul & The Wild Pair – 15 (1)
23 26 WHOLE WIDE WORLD –•– A’me Lorain – 10 (23)
24 31 I WANNA BE RICH –•– Calloway – 7 (24)
25 13 TOO LATE TO SAY GOODBYE –•– Richard Marx – 10 (12)
26 33 WITHOUT YOU –•– Motley Crue – 5 (26)
27 20 SOMETIMES SHE CRIES –•– Warrant – 12 (20)
28 36 HOW CAN WE BE LOVERS –•– Michael Bolton – 4 (28)
29 25 HERE WE ARE –•– Gloria Estefan – 15 (6)
30 32 LOVE ME FOR LIFE –•– Stevie B – 8 (30)

31 37 HEARTBEAT –•– Seduction – 5 (31)
32 39 WHIP APPEAL –•– Babyface – 5 (32)
33 63 NOTHING COMPARES 2 U –•– Sinead O’Connor – 2 (33)
34 28 THE DEEPER THE LOVE –•– Whitesnake – 10 (28)
35 27 WE CAN’T GO WRONG –•– Cover Girls – 16 (8)
36 42 HEART OF STONE –•– Cher – 7 (36)
37 40 YOU’RE THE ONLY WOMAN –•– The Brat Pack – 8 (37)
38 29 ANYTHING I WANT –•– Kevin Paige – 10 (29)
39 44 IF U WERE MINE –•– The U-Krew – 9 (39)
40 43 THE HEART OF THE MATTER –•– Don Henley – 6 (40)

coronoshebettadontvirus (Eric H.), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 14:25 (two weeks ago) link

Man, that top twenty. No "meh," just good-to-great vs The Hague.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 14:26 (two weeks ago) link

Looking through that American Top 40 list, I guess a lot of the attendant albums must be from '89 because they would otherwise be in the playlist I'm jamming. I've got Tommy Page and Michel'le on the way, at any rate!

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 14:30 (two weeks ago) link

Just started Was (Not Was) - Are You Okay?. Will report back.

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 14:31 (two weeks ago) link

Equivalent UK chart for same week. There’s some horrors in it but feels like something special especially the run between 11 and 18.

1 12 THE POWER SNAP!
2 2 LOVE SHACK THE B-52S
3 6 STRAWBERRY FIELDS FOREVER CANDY FLIP
4 3 BLUE SAVANNAH ERASURE
5 1 DUB BE GOOD TO ME BEATS INTERNATIONAL FEATURING LINDY LAYTON
6 7 LILY WAS HERE DAVID A STEWART FEATURING CANDY DULFER
7 5 I'LL BE LOVING YOU (FOREVER) NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK
8 17 BIRDHOUSE IN YOUR SOUL THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS
9 4 THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO MEJIVE BUNNY AND THE MASTERMIXERS
10 8 HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO LIVE WITHOUT YOU MICHAEL BOLTON
11 10 INFINITY (1990'S TIME FOR THE GURU) GURU JOSH
12 14 DON'T YOU LOVE ME 49ERs
13 11 MOMENTS IN SOUL JT AND THE BIG FAMILY
14 15 THIS IS HOW IT FEELS INSPIRAL CARPETS
15 19 EVERYTHING STARTS WITH AN 'E' {1990} E-ZEE POSSEE
16 16 LOADED PRIMAL SCREAM
17 28 CHIME ORBITAL
18 34 MAMMA GAVE BIRTH TO THE SOUL CHILDREN QUEEN LATIFAH AND DE LA SOUL
19 9 THE BRITS 1990 VARIOUS ARTISTS
20 13 NOTHING COMPARES 2 U SINEAD O'CONNOR
21 36 ANOTHER DAY IN PARADISE JAM TRONIK
22 New DON'T MISS THE PARTYLINE BIZZ NIZZ
23 33 ALL I WANNA DO IS MAKE LOVE TO YOU HEART
24 New GHETTO HEAVEN FAMILY STAND
25 21 HANDFUL OF PROMISES BIG FUN
26 32 READ MY LIPS (ENOUGH IS ENOUGH) JIMMY SOMERVILLE
27 New BETTER WORLD REBEL MC
28 New PICTURES OF YOU THE CURE
29 18 NATURAL THING INNOCENCE
30 New KINGSTON TOWN UB40
31 New ESCAPADE JANET JACKSON
32 20 ENJOY THE SILENC DEPECHE MODE
33 48 BLACK VELVET ALANNAH MYLES
34 Re SHE BANGS THE DRUMS THE STONE ROSES
35 New WHAT U WAITIN' 4 THE JUNGLE BROTHERS
36 New I REMEMBER YOU SKID ROW
37 22 I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY ELSE BLACK BOX
38 29 HERE WE ARE GLORIA ESTEFAN
39 40 YOUR LOVE TAKES ME HIGHER {1990} THE BELOVED
40 38 TOO LATE TO SAY GOODBYE RICHARD MARX

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 17:34 (two weeks ago) link

Old Lunch, I think you need to listen to World Clique again. And again. And again. Keep listening to it. You must. Do not stop. Just play it again. Now. And forever. Our clique is the world. The world is our clique.

DJP, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 17:51 (two weeks ago) link

xp top 10 starts strong, ends very badly

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 17:51 (two weeks ago) link

Forgot about that weird Brits 1990 megamix single

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 17:52 (two weeks ago) link

I'd managed to completely forget about Jive Bunny

DJP, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 17:52 (two weeks ago) link

I still own a cassette of the Jive Bunny LP, I remember being disappointed that it didn't include their abysmal Christmas single.

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 18:00 (two weeks ago) link

"Here We Are" is among my favorite guilty pleasures from that era.

coronoshebettadontvirus (Eric H.), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 18:40 (two weeks ago) link

Ain't nothin' guilty about the pleasure of an Estefan ballad.

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 19:08 (two weeks ago) link

Seems like an early victim of 'must fill every available minute of time on this new CD format!' bloat.

The CD has half a bonus track over the LP; the cassette has four.

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 20:28 (two weeks ago) link

Orbital Top 20 singles artist. Oh yeah.

kraudive, Thursday, 26 March 2020 11:42 (two weeks ago) link

Again, for me - something I find common in this period - is the “indie” stuff stinks the chart up more than anything else (not a big Madchester/baggy person so there is that); the chart looks more interesting without it

Master of Treacle, Thursday, 26 March 2020 12:28 (two weeks ago) link

Goddamn, I had thought 'This is Ponderous' (1991)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gYIbMwswKM

was some sort of unfortunate outlier from this era, but there are tracks exactly like it on the Was (Not Was) and Will to Power albums from '90. WTF was happening.

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Thursday, 26 March 2020 12:39 (two weeks ago) link

From a purely anecdotal standpoint, listening to albums from this particular year feels incredibly schizophrenic to me inasmuch as, between the summer of '90 and the fall of '91 (when singles from some of these albums were still charting), I lived in four different cities (we moved at the end of my seventh grade year, then again in the middle of eighth grade, and then again just before my freshman year). So I have an array of geographical associations with these songs, and then also the thing where a song hits big in one part of the country long before another catches up, etc. The fact that 'U Can't Touch This' and 'Gonna Make You Sweat (Everybody Move)' were released in the same year seems to strain all temporal credulity.

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Thursday, 26 March 2020 13:24 (two weeks ago) link

Defining the Poppy Bush Interzone.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 March 2020 13:29 (two weeks ago) link

Yes, I always forget but, upon remembering, greatly appreciate your coinage of the PBI. It is an extremely resonant era of pop for me.

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Thursday, 26 March 2020 13:46 (two weeks ago) link

Phenomenal year.

Matt DC, Thursday, 26 March 2020 13:58 (two weeks ago) link

The slate from yesterday and this morning...

Was (Not Was) - Are You Okay?
Vanessa Williams - The Right Stuff
Will to Power - Journey Home
Wilson Phillips - s/t

...has been fine I guess, fair-to-middlin', not many album tracks exceeding the better singles that I already knew, occasionally real bad (about half of that WNW album...sheesh), mostly making me wonder how inclined I am to continue with this project.

But hey whattayaknow, listening to Salt-N-Pepa's Black's Magic rn and it's real effing good. Which may be news to precisely no one but me.

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:20 (two weeks ago) link

was some sort of unfortunate outlier from this era, but there are tracks exactly like it on the Was (Not Was) and Will to Power albums from '90. WTF was happening.

Bands just felt really compelled to do an updated 90s take on Eric Burdon and War's "Spill The Wine".

MarkoP, Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:33 (two weeks ago) link

These songs are a much different animal (no pun intended). It makes me wonder if Joe Frank just started to blow up around then.

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:36 (two weeks ago) link

I heard punk broke, not sure if anybody fixed it.

Stevolende, Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:37 (two weeks ago) link

A corporation did

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 26 March 2020 19:29 (two weeks ago) link

I'm sorry to have to report that it died

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 26 March 2020 19:42 (two weeks ago) link


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