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I haven't heard anything amazing from the past seven days yet, so here's Spice's "Siddung" from last fall instead, which was never posted in the last thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV5BJTC7z_c

rob, Saturday, 7 January 2017 21:32 (ten months ago) Permalink

couple of late-ish additions to good riddims that I liked:

Jahmiel on 47th Floor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mri-xFIGYiE

Vershon on Yard Man:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYwFel3nOK0

rob, Saturday, 7 January 2017 21:45 (ten months ago) Permalink

this Jahmiel x Shenseea is pretty nice. not sure how Shenseea suddenly became so ubiquitous, but I suppose there is plenty of room for new female talent right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_AK4SXpH1s

good riddim on Blak Ryno's "One Inna Dem Head":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-aJzRpiB1Q

rob, Saturday, 21 January 2017 16:41 (nine months ago) Permalink

Popcaan, Jafrass, Quada / "Unruly Camp":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI345j5mARw

quite like Popcaan in a group setting

rob, Saturday, 28 January 2017 22:06 (nine months ago) Permalink

this Vershon "All Fi Dem" is quite lovely:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWtf7NqFTc8

Popcaan not bad on that riddim (Kingston City) too

rob, Saturday, 28 January 2017 22:20 (nine months ago) Permalink

search is down so I can't bump her own thread, but Cherine Anderson is still charming as hell:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7LXPvPL1u4

rob, Saturday, 28 January 2017 22:34 (nine months ago) Permalink

The Caliente riddim is excellent--best thing I've heard so far this year. Everyone is good on it, but Shenseea has turned out to be a legit threat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUKjJAl28So

rob, Sunday, 5 February 2017 16:39 (nine months ago) Permalink

I finally had a chance to check the Claiente Riddim, and yes, it's good, and yes, the Shensea is a gem.

Vybz has had a good 2017 so far. His Alkaline diss, Closed Casket, stands out but I'm also enjoying From Portmore City To Uptown, Hold It, his Feel Good riddim entry It Nuh Hard, and even the popdroppy Wine To Di Top. Also, November's What NEX goes hard, especially if you pitch it up a bit to about 104 bpm - the same goes for Portmore City and quite a lot of ca 98 bpm dancehall tbh.

Closed Casket
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVPhSEMfplY

From Portmore City To Uptown:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrXGrk5tnEM

Hold It:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVmLog9WbA8

Wine To Di Top:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzfVjJRZrtU

What Nex:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZISVu0D5BY

It Nuh Hard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tYxHx_hgiw

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 09:29 (nine months ago) Permalink

absolutely no way whatsoever that 'portmore city' isnt a 2003 acappella that baby g found on a usb key in the pocket of some too-tight white jeans he was throwing out

r|t|c, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 09:46 (nine months ago) Permalink

I have entertained the thought, yes, but at the same time, there is also the line "me deh behind bars inna di General Pen" - which seems pretty 2017. He's got access to a proper studio now, obviously.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 09:51 (nine months ago) Permalink

http://www.salon.com/2004/03/13/riddim/ SATURDAY, MAR 13, 2004 08:52 PM +0000
In real life, both have indeed served prison time; Kartel’s December arrest on weapons and assault charges was reggae’s talk of the town for weeks.

r|t|c, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 09:59 (nine months ago) Permalink

victoria's secret fixation is what rly gave it away tbh

r|t|c, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 10:03 (nine months ago) Permalink

Well, it's hardly impossible. I'm still on the fence though.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 10:05 (nine months ago) Permalink

It is definitely the one vocal track that does sound closer to "young" kartel than to present day Vybz, I'll give you that.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 10:08 (nine months ago) Permalink

Christ that Salon article is quite a document...sob

The vocal melody and voice on Portmore City definitely sound like old Kartel to me. I've been ignoring the latest war since I found "Microwave" to be the least interesting track Alkaline has put out in a while, but I love the riddim on "Closed Casket"--so many movements (produced by Daseca?).

While we're on the subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSm2KWEX2sg

Good to hear Rvssian not resting on his dembow laurels.

I only just realized Shenseea is on VP which explains the size of her push. Fully sold on her now too: Jiggle Jiggle is great, Reverse is pretty good, collab with Jahmiel upthread is nice, and I even dug her freestyle over "oouuu".

rob, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 16:14 (nine months ago) Permalink

maybe it's because I was listening to Chrome riddim after reading that Salon piece, but the minimalist groove on this Busy Signal "Company" suddenly seemed really fresh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZXh8yMu1UM

rob, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 16:18 (nine months ago) Permalink

Yeah I heard Company on a mixshow recently after quickly dismissing it in the context of the EP and was surprised by how fresh it sounded.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 16:30 (nine months ago) Permalink

ha exactly, robbo ranx led off with it and it sounded so big--I might have heard a bass-less youtube the first time. Beenie Man's version on that Black Peppa riddim w/ the dubious Kartel voicing currently sounding great in that context too. I am v ready for the post-47th Floor brasswave

rob, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 16:52 (nine months ago) Permalink

Yep, that was it, lol. And yeah, Beenie Man's version is easily the only other version I'm keeping - but mostly because of the brass. If Portmore is indeed a cut n paste it's crazy that Kartel still manages to interact with the beat musically in ways that no one else can, apparently.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 17:40 (nine months ago) Permalink

Disappointed that the announced Kartel & Wizkid collabo turned out to be Wizkid adding some adlibs, a hook and a short verse to a song that wasn't in need of his input.
http://djstefanomusic.com/article/vybz-kartel-wizkid-releases-new-single-titled-wine-top

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 9 February 2017 08:21 (nine months ago) Permalink

hi! i don't usually post in these threads but i've been dipping into 1Xtra's jamaica trip and it's fun. i have learned one thing: I love the Crown Love riddim!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04s2kr9

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 February 2017 09:20 (nine months ago) Permalink

Crown Love is great! very hard to pick a favorite: Tarrus Riley's and Vybz Kartel's are great, but I think I most like Christopher Martin's "My Love" (which is on his new quite good album btw) for the way he sings "sweet coconut r-r-r-rum" plus he tells the girl he wants her to be his Guantanamo lol

rob, Monday, 13 February 2017 15:37 (nine months ago) Permalink

Yep, those three are my favorites too. Great riddim that somehow got slept on a little?

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 13 February 2017 15:40 (nine months ago) Permalink

maybe a little as a riddim qua riddim. I feel like the Riley track especially broke through though? Idk I guess it depends on what context we're talking about

speaking of that Martin album, this collab with Busy Signal was the stand-out among the new tracks for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt2wBwU1NyI

rob, Monday, 13 February 2017 16:23 (nine months ago) Permalink

Steppin was from last year, actually. I always liked it, though! And yeah, there's a certain sweetness to Martin's approach that sets him apart imo. I loved his two versions on 47th Floor as well.

Slept on is relative, of course. I just remember thinking it would totally rule the summer but then Moskato turned up and kind of took over everything.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 13 February 2017 16:41 (nine months ago) Permalink

ha I seem to have slipped into constantly posting older tracks on the rolling threads. I really like Martin too and the album is strong if maybe a little exhausting as a single listen, but it would serve as a great intro for anyone not too familiar with him.

ok yeah that's true about the summer/Moskato. I wonder if Rvssian being in Miami (iirc) rather than JA has anything to do with it? that said he seems well poised to take advantage of the massive lane opened up to south america by "Party Animal". the intl audience for dancehall is super interesting right now--I just looked up the video for the Riley track and all the commenters are Kenyans!

rob, Monday, 13 February 2017 16:50 (nine months ago) Permalink

lol yeah. The good thing about Justin going dembow and this major lazeresque pop era is that you can mix in just about everything. The lanes are open.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 13 February 2017 17:52 (nine months ago) Permalink

production on this new Chronixx dancehall track is p incredible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlM1X1_Cams

Reggaeville claims it's self-produced too. I suppose there's no chance that all of Chronology will sound like this

rob, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 21:30 (nine months ago) Permalink

Just came here to say I've been enjoying the hell out of the Vybz x Wizkid. Wizzy adds so many extra happy vibes to it.

Well, also to post two hot new tracks by Busy Signal:

https://soundcloud.com/vpal-dist/busy-signal-dangerous-bam-bam-stainless-music-vpal-music

"Dangerous Bam Bam" (the hottest)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Brk0ci8U1E

"Wifey vs. Matie" (also-hot)

breastcrawl, Saturday, 25 February 2017 19:03 (eight months ago) Permalink

Yeah, the Vybz & Wiz has grown on me. I do wish it had sounded a bit more... organic, but Wizkid does soften it in the right places.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 25 February 2017 23:02 (eight months ago) Permalink

To me it sounds organic enough, but then, you knew the original already and I only heard it afterwards, so matter of perception perhaps?

breastcrawl, Saturday, 25 February 2017 23:10 (eight months ago) Permalink

probably, yes. To me it sounds a bit too much like a cut and paste but i've pretty much replaced the original with the wizkid version so by now so i'm not really complaining.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 25 February 2017 23:41 (eight months ago) Permalink

My favourite dancehall track this year comes from a UK rapper:

Stefflon Don - 16 Shots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5TIDDx57-0

gregus, Sunday, 26 February 2017 12:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

wau:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxHx6vM4iCw

(Alkaline, "Fast")

rob, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 01:21 (eight months ago) Permalink

Popcaan's "Addictive" has been around for a while, is good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4Me1Hv8AxI

rob, Thursday, 9 March 2017 22:19 (eight months ago) Permalink

yes, very.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 10 March 2017 08:02 (eight months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

oh man, best thing Tifa has done in an age and this whole riddim could really grow on me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Wq5d0g-Z8

rob, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 23:43 (seven months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I love the Humbug. The Chris Martin is my fave at the moment though.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 23:54 (seven months ago) Permalink

Ooh, haven't heard that yet, looking forward. The "Daniella Whine" remix is pretty hot--I've always loved that tune and Elephant Man sounds pretty fired up on the remix. In other good news, Alklaline just dropped this tune too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKe8Lk9pOOQ

rob, Thursday, 30 March 2017 00:10 (seven months ago) Permalink

Actually, every version on the Humbug Riddim is a winner. The Kartel version is probably my favorite though. He's so deliciously dirty and super specific, lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR-4i3sigiI

I love what Chris Martin does with the melodies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_STMQG5wL4

Also, Mavado reminding us to wear a condom:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg2H7d3EsmU

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 2 April 2017 00:06 (seven months ago) Permalink

really like Rvssian's production on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN41UT1aIAg

pretty stunning to see that "Privado" has over 100million views

rob, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 17:31 (seven months ago) Permalink

This made the lower echelons of the 1Xtra playlist and may be my fave track of the year

Shenseea - Reverse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dP5eD7xqzI

Mercer Finn, Thursday, 13 April 2017 22:07 (seven months ago) Permalink

Alkaline's "Fast" still keeps getting better and better with each play. "Rapido, rapido, rapido, rapido, rapido, rapido, rapido..."

breastcrawl, Friday, 14 April 2017 06:55 (seven months ago) Permalink

Reverse is great! I think I rated it below "Jiggle Jiggle" upthread but they're both excellent. She's inevitably put out some weak stuff, but so far Shenseea is the most exciting thing happening this (kinda slow so far?) year for me. Alkaline was in that spot last year though.

Anyone know why Chronology hasn't come out yet?

rob, Friday, 14 April 2017 14:40 (seven months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x--oBoLliIA

ishawna causing some consternation and wailing w/ her pro-head stance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP1geWwZEzA

also this new busy is too sick, him and alkaline are the best at not just riding a riddim but making their voices another instrument in the song

oiocha, Monday, 1 May 2017 18:23 (six months ago) Permalink

that was definitely the best way to end my don't-listen-to-Sheeran policy

rob, Thursday, 4 May 2017 16:22 (six months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

anxiously waiting for this year's fever or ova dweet to emerge. this mavado tune is good though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQH_37l7kdo

oiocha, Sunday, 21 May 2017 01:55 (five months ago) Permalink

Crazy Glue Riddim is pretty crazy and sticks like glue. Sean Paul and Alkaline on the obvious hit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IZd6v0zoUM

Also, this Kartel and Masicka is hard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4olEDVTbhw

And Alkaline is unstoppable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOA7oWqzhNI

My favorite riddim atm is the Bad & Sexy though - def here to stay for the summer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz0558pufFs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pZZ650HLkA

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 22 May 2017 07:18 (five months ago) Permalink

Oh, so we haven't even posted these Alakalines? Slipping!

Pretty Girl Team is one of the best songs of the year, easily:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1aVmoweBUI

Nice and Easy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPp7NOsAu4E

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 22 May 2017 07:24 (five months ago) Permalink

A few of the new Kartel releases have sounded "old" but as always, there's more than enough to go around:

Love hearing him on a soca riddim (the 6.3). Reverb & Delay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvXsWT4QOc0

Love It:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LfSVWXXAgE

Secret:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJIBgeZ-9DI

Highest Level (posted upthread) is the one I keep returning to though. Guessing it will stick around through the summer.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 22 May 2017 07:28 (five months ago) Permalink

RDX with yet another Bam Bam remake. You basically can't miss with these.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfLN9kLR6AE

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 22 May 2017 07:40 (five months ago) Permalink

admittedly I've been very distracted this year (though I did post "Nice and Easy" a while back; the YT got pulled), but this surprisingly strong late addition to an aging franchise caught my ear:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExaiWN8T5o8
(Cham & Miss O, "Get Drunk")

Dave Kelly sounds absolutely and effortlessly contemporary on that (which obvs says more about the contemporary than him but still)

rob, Monday, 22 May 2017 19:59 (five months ago) Permalink

seem to remember also liking a Chi Ching Ching track a bit back, Poppy's "1Guh" and Mavado's "Dirt Nap"

rob, Monday, 22 May 2017 20:01 (five months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFTesEBGQ_o

new equiknoxx produccy is hard

oiocha, Thursday, 25 May 2017 00:59 (five months ago) Permalink

production-wise this should probably go on the afrobeats thread; it's warm and lovely either way:
Popcaan f. Davido, "My Story"
https://open.spotify.com/album/1k7QAPJW7lrgpKJVK3HyRG

rob, Friday, 26 May 2017 18:02 (five months ago) Permalink

okay on subsequent listen with actual headphones ^that is a serious jam

rob, Friday, 26 May 2017 18:12 (five months ago) Permalink

and this excellent Alkaline just dropped too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXWx8eJUtuU

rob, Friday, 26 May 2017 18:14 (five months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

some nice stuff from french guiana; Jahyanai King & Bamby:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVQMUksdgDU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXHj7feMIi0

rob, Saturday, 1 July 2017 15:07 (four months ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIoyIwxpjXc

rob, Monday, 31 July 2017 23:07 (three months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

just me or is the chronixx album a bit of a disappointment?

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 16:24 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah I listened to about half of it and got kind of bored despite liking some bits (iirc the one with his dad was good?). I should give it another shot but haven't felt particularly inclined.

rob, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 16:45 (two months ago) Permalink

one with his dad (big bad sound) and both the singles (majesty, likes) are nice enough, the rest is a mix between okay and unlistenable explicit trop xover bid (i can)

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 17:59 (two months ago) Permalink

I like the individual songs whenever I hear one of them, but no, I haven't been able to really listen to the album either. Which is... weird. Anyway, this gives me an excuse to post Aidonia's Yeah, which should have been posted many weeks ago (along with a dozen other songs but... work).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAfoh46RYNY

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 18:07 (two months ago) Permalink

unlistenable explicit trop xover bid (i can)

lol I do remember that one

think I like "Krayzay" and "Banga" more than "Yeah Yeah" but nice to see him so full of fire this year

thread is tragically neglected this year, but did we ever post anything from La Vida riddim?

rob, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 19:37 (two months ago) Permalink

I think Bruise is the only recent Aidonia I have a slight problem with, but mostly because the idea of bruising and sex makes me go hmmmm.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 9 September 2017 07:55 (two months ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

This new Kartel stays lodged in my brain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Wzm0SVuv0

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 8 October 2017 20:55 (one month ago) Permalink

that's a good one. I like I Octane on that riddim too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xuLPriwXjw

been wondering lately if this has been kind of a down year or if it's me? I definitely haven't been staying super current like years past, but just looking at say Alkaline's output, I think only Fast and Red Eyes have really stuck with me. curious if you feel the same way. otoh, I don't want to blame everything on politics but this has also been a pretty anhedonic year in general and I've spent way more time listening to older stuff in response

rob, Sunday, 8 October 2017 21:57 (one month ago) Permalink

mm hm is so good, reminds me of older kartel like court case or something.
think it has been a bit of a down year though, a lot of the energy has moved to the uk for me. if i want to hear a new alkaline song i'm more likely to reach for his guest verse on textin. that said pretty girl team is one of my favorites of the year.

this one's great as well. good month for vybz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-FfToAJpd0

oiocha, Monday, 9 October 2017 20:03 (one month ago) Permalink

I think it has been a really good year for Alkaline overall, and Kartel is staying strong. (I agree that Pretty Girl Team, Fast and Red Eyes are awesome, but right below them there's Impact, Nice & Easy, Buss Head and Gyalis Pro.) Plus Masicka is getting closer and closer to... something interesting. And Shenseea, Popcaan, Konshens and a few other artists have consistently brought it. However, it all feels a bit... barren in other areas. None of the Spice songs have REALLY stayed with me and few among the B-team artists have made those memorable songs that they usually make. And we sort of kind of missed that ubiquitous summer riddim this year, didn't we? There were a few nice ones, but no Moscato Riddim or anything like it.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:21 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah that's what I'm getting at really: I have a weaker grasp on what tunes/riddims have been really big this year but wasn't sure if it's because nothing really achieved that status or I missed something--"no Moscato" sums it up. I get that I'm alone in this but pointing to Kartel as a sign of the genre's health is odd to me--I think it would be even if he wasn't in jail. Dude is 41 years old and has been making music for a quarter of a century! Plus--this is a personal taste issue for sure--I just don't dig hearing his voice that much these days. I should go back and check all the Alkaline stuff I only gave a quick listen to; but I'm not really worried about him, he was on fire last year and I don't expect that kind of sustained hit-making (five years ago I remember I was worried Popcaan had run out of steam lol). I do wonder what I'm missing with Masicka, per his YT views he's quite popular but I never really like anything he does that much. I don't have the data to back this up, but beyond the relative strength of individual artists/careers cited, my gut feeling is that dancehall production is in a holding pattern right now? Generally my problem with, e.g., the Alkaline tracks I'm meh on is that I don't care that much about the riddim.

curious about oiocha's uk comment: do you mean specifically UK dancehall or more broadly UK rap/afrobeatsy stuff?

rob, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:43 (one month ago) Permalink

I obviously still love Kartel's voice and will keep loving it until his well runs dry, lol. But apart from that I'm with you all the way. As for Masicka I love his Money Mix Version, 10 out of 10, but he seems to lack a bit flavour and personality overall.

Guessing that oiocha was referring to the "afro bashment" scene, the sub-J Hus stuff, since he mentioned WSTRN's Txtn With the Alkaline feature, but even that scene seems to have started the year stronger than they're closing it out, imo. I haven't really heard an afropop song I've loved in a while either, though, so I'm guessing it partly has to do With me working too much and not really having the time to dig in musically these days. I will say that I love this Demarco tune though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHmS6XFSzss

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:58 (one month ago) Permalink

definitely agree on lack of a big summer riddim/hit- nothing has felt as big as moscato or even just "fever" on its own last year. money mix is great but no club crowd is going to react to it the way they react to that piano hook in moscato. genna bounce/"yeah yeah" seems like it has a lot of momentum right now but isn't really my thing.

but that said it's hard to argue looking at the year in tunes: pretty girl team, 10 outta 10, infrared, popcaan - addictive (wildly underappreciated!), jahmiel & shenseea - tell me, aidonia - ig girls...all of that's still pretty fantastic music that doesn't sound quite like anything else, who cares if it doesn't fit our need for a narrative of progression, right? i'm sure something is going to come along and blow my mind soon as well.

longneck you might dig juls' fader mix for new-ish afropop...i played it all of late summer, laid back and lovely stuff
http://www.thefader.com/2017/07/06/fader-mix-juls

oiocha, Thursday, 12 October 2017 03:41 (one month ago) Permalink

Thanks, I kind of slept on his album for some reason but will get around to this. Usually, all it takes is a Neptizzle weekly mix to pull me back in. I do like all of the songs you mentioned and even a couple of others - Robbo Ranx has kept playing Kranium, Wizkid and Ty Dolla's Can't Believe until I finally caved in and realized it's one of the biggest tunes of the year, lol. I low key hated it at first.
I think the problem is mostly me working too much, which means that something needs to be really special to grab my attention. I need to give myself the chance to be pulled in properly again.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 12 October 2017 13:44 (one month ago) Permalink

to be clear, I should have started with a disclaimer by saying that a 'bad' year for me with dancehall means fewer than like several dozen great tracks. Definitely not in despair over here and everything I've posted upthread continues to be spun, and there's a handful or two I never posted that you guys are probably already up on.

heh, I do not like that Kranium et al track at all despite that one having a great riddim! but yeah tbrr my problem is totally rooted in being depressed about the state of the world. I didn't want to turn this into a thread about that, but it's affecting my music listening across the board, preferring familiar music or drifty dreamy stuff to the more direct pleasures of dancehall or soca. I have also fallen out of the afropop loop so thanks for that juls mix, his "Early" is one I did manage to pick up on. And I like that Demarco track; the Popcaan/Davido one is also good imo

Anyway, "Addictive" is great! I think what's holding it back is that it was never officially released? Obvs that doesn't mean a whole lot in 2017, but it's not on Spotify (in Canada at least) and that can't be helping. Point taken about narrative progression, but I honestly don't think I'm looking for that: I would be psyched for a good throwback ragga riddim. I mean Moscato was certainly retro.

Glad I posted though as I'd slept on Pretty Girl Team and Money Mix

rob, Thursday, 12 October 2017 14:32 (one month ago) Permalink

wasn't sure about this one at first but I have succumbed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho9AQ91qGxQ

rob, Thursday, 12 October 2017 14:38 (one month ago) Permalink

Interesting point about the state of the world, rob. I think the sunny caribbean and african sounds are all that keep me *from* depression at times, so whenever there are fewer than a few dozen hits I love, I'm instantly getting nervous, lol. Love the I-Octane and Bunji, btw.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 12 October 2017 14:44 (one month ago) Permalink

Btw, Chicken and Dumplin was *almost* that riddim for me.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 12 October 2017 14:47 (one month ago) Permalink

Oh I'm the same with using sunny sounds as a bulwark agains the shittiness of the world, so I am a little nervous tbh! It's too bad about the Chronixx album--now would be a great time to have some really searing roots to turn to, something like Popcaan's "System" would be so welcome. In that vein, I've grown to really really love "Buss Head"

rob, Thursday, 12 October 2017 15:15 (one month ago) Permalink

ah yeah i wasn't trying to drag any positivity out of anyone! just following my own train of thought and remembering how lucky i am to be able to access all this incredible music haha.

it's definitely therapeutic for me as well, in These Times Of Ours, you have to take your pleasures where you can and getting a reliably great (or at least above average) alkaline or popcaan or vybz or shenseea track every few weeks is one of my major ones.

i love "can't believe" and can't believe I forgot to mention it up there...gliding over those smooth dembows, mmmm. kranium has such a great voice and i'm a sucker for that echo-y, expansive production on the vocals, one of those tunes that has a whole night out compressed into one.

oiocha, Friday, 13 October 2017 03:04 (one month ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDHktZY7a30

also, any chance anyone knows something about the first 40 seconds of this video? clicked on it randomly and was completely taken aback by this random minimal skeletal earworm only to have my excitement crushed when it's just the intro and the actual tune is a decent but not great conscious track. is it an interpretation of an older song i don't know?

oiocha, Friday, 13 October 2017 03:09 (one month ago) Permalink

i don’t know what it is, but you’re correct about it being an ear worm, been walking round the house going “some man pick up the guuuuuuuun” for the last forty minutes.

and fwiw, state of the world and richness of current dancehall, soca etc notwithstanding, am always really grateful for this thread for consistently throwing up favourite tracks.

Fizzles, Friday, 13 October 2017 06:31 (one month ago) Permalink

no idea about that intro either but I like the whole thing, nice find!

Maybe like longneck I was too harsh on Can't Believe--I do really like the feel of the production. On first listen, I may have been expecting too much from the Wizkid feature, or maybe it's that the song grooves where I expected it to build up to something bigger. Also Kranium's album, which I initially liked, barely stuck with me so I might be holding that against him.

I don't think I ever posted this Alicai Harley. Absolutely love it, wish there were more of these weightless, plinky NES-sounding riddims--reminds me of Cute Bubble a lot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf9kO4pATJU

rob, Friday, 13 October 2017 13:47 (one month ago) Permalink

^^Yeah, that was my initial reaction to Can't Believe too.
I haven't posted Washer Dryer yet, have I?

https://youtu.be/nF0ryxo0fjY

There's also Don't Come Back, which just dropped:
https://youtu.be/Ylgj6ksqXlo

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 13 October 2017 14:18 (one month ago) Permalink

Is Mavado's main problem as an artist that he doesn't at all seem interested in sex? Just a stray thought that has been bothering me for a while.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 13 October 2017 14:25 (one month ago) Permalink

Another seemingly related random thought: I really like Masicka whenever he making songs for the girls. 10 outta 10 is good, and so is Down For Life.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 13 October 2017 14:44 (one month ago) Permalink

I suppose there is something a bit stone-faced and perfunctory about Mavado's sex songs, no sense of pleasure being communicated. I think, for me, current Mavado's problem is that as he's aged his voice has sounded more tired (I mean that literally) and the poignancy it used to have has been lost a bit while the braggadocio doesn't come over as well.

Washer Dryer is great, though immediately filed under "headphones only" for me lol. Are there other versions on that riddim? it's nice.

Definitely more accurate to say I'm super picky about Kartel tracks than that I dislike him now. that said, "Don't Come Back" has that uh suspiciously timeless quality to it we've discussed before. I dig this one with Kim Kelly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc2k6zuxyTU

rob, Friday, 13 October 2017 14:45 (one month ago) Permalink

Would have to do due diligence on Masicka to weigh in, but fwiw I don't really care for any of his gunman tunes while I do like 10 Outta 10. Have to admit I am also mildly anti-Masicka for the 'genocide' branding; I probably wouldn't care if he was on some tommy lee sparta goth metal shit--and lord knows I compartmentalize tons of other shit in dancehall--but it feels cheap to me

My own random thought: is this Kyla/Popcaan song good or just an admirably efficent feat of engineering together like 4 different genres that I love?

rob, Friday, 13 October 2017 14:54 (one month ago) Permalink

The clean Washer Dryer is actually better, lol. It's Washer... dryer... com-complete. I even discussed it with my daughter, who agreed that a washer wasn't complete without a dryer, lol.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 13 October 2017 15:16 (one month ago) Permalink

hahaha <3

rob, Friday, 13 October 2017 15:18 (one month ago) Permalink

Btw, I think the Kyla is good - but I'm not quite sold on Poppy as the romantic interest. At least not yet.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 13 October 2017 16:09 (one month ago) Permalink

dancehall/reggae fans - other than Soul Jazz's Invasion of the Mysteron Killer Sounds, what other riddim comps are out there that are just the instrumentals? I know about the Greensleeves and Riddim Driven ones, but I want comps of multiple riddims

Shat Parp (dog latin), Saturday, 21 October 2017 12:13 (four weeks ago) Permalink

there aren't too many sadly but there's mo'wax's compilation Now Thing and Raime's mix Our Versions of Their Versions come to mind

oiocha, Saturday, 21 October 2017 13:28 (four weeks ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

https://soundcloud.com/the_large/infrared-mixtape

such an absolute fire mix and a good overview of the year for casual thread-perusers

oiocha, Thursday, 16 November 2017 03:35 (three days ago) Permalink


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