Is the Beatles 1962-66 (the 'red' alb) the only record of theirs that you need?

Nah actually I just put “Real Love” on (Anthology 2 version) and damn if it’s not core Beatles canon for me now. I teared up a little.

Or he may have just retired completely.

From music, yes - I can easily picture it. I always have the feeling with late period George that he saw his restoration of Friar Park and its gardens as possibly his most important achievement in the unsatisfactory ‘material world’, where all things are innately temporary and subject to change and suffering.

Is anybody else bothered that the Anthology is now older than the history it documented?

Anthology has been written out of history a bit hasn’t it? I mean it was a stodgy meandering old thing anyway.

Good to see that The Compleat Beatles is still knocking around;

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLALI9Wu6Vd6EkjUPV0MM1viAjOrPSifL6&si=immtTVVVmbHtPd1M

An expanded and remastered Anthology is probably the next big Apple project.

The TV series that is – not sure about the records.

In some interviews recently, someone from Apple hinted they were taking a look at Anthology again. It seems inevitable that this will get an update, but I imagine the video restoration would be expensive (but maybe cheaper every year as tech advances). The Anthology albums could have been irrelevant due to the SDEs but they've avoided complete overlap which is kind of annoying in some respects. My gut tells me that within 4 years we'll get reissues of these with Now and Then on the third volume as originally planned and remixed FAAB and Real Love.

oh goodie

Good to see that The Compleat Beatles is still knocking around;

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLALI9Wu6Vd6EkjUPV0MM1viAjOrPSifL6&si=immtTVVVmbHtPd1M🕸

Hmm, some of them work at least.

the Incompleat Beatles

incompleatles

^^^ let's start this cover band

i'm out

The Anthology rollout was a mess and Apple need things up their sleeve for the brand so I'm pretty certain 4-5 years will see a 'corrected' Anthology happen yeah.

The original albums are 'dated' in the sense that you can buy any of the core 66-70 albums with fucktons of outtakes included which makes A1, 2 and 3 seem more and more like the cherrypicked contraptions they are rather than any sort of essential overview of their unpolished happenings. So I can't imagine them keeping the original track listings if the albums get revived. Besides which, FaaB and Real Love have lost their context as opening tracks - except Anthology 1 otherwise opens with about ten minutes of tape hiss, which is absurd for a mega-selling album, and requires FaaB and the interview snippets (which get abandoned, along with their radio doc feel, once you can hear properly - again underlining the mess of the project) to fence them in place. Then there's the matter of some people buying these compilations in the years to come expecting fleshed out recordings - nothing on the outer artwork implies these are discarded takes and the like because the back cover track listings are simplified.

can't they just dump a bunch of unreleased and cleaned up bootleg material online? for a fee if they must (surely they have enough money by now the greedy bastards?) unfortunately they seem to be locked into doing "album" rollouts, presumably to keep the brand relevant. it's weird how precious they are about withholding stuff considering some of the mediocre and bad stuff on some official releases

are they doing anything with the christmas fanclub singles? they're a mixed bag but it seems like money left on the table

to defend george for a just a second I would be grumpy and jaded and prematurely fogeyish if I had to put up with john and paul drama for a decade while also becoming a massive celebrity (at least somewhat) against my will when I just wanted to play music with my mates and maybe score a couple of hits

Just remembered that Archeology had some Ollie Halsall performances on it to add to its similarity to the Anthologies.

George the perpetual fifth wheel in the John/Paul relationship.

so not gonna happen

Re: the Anthology albums, I got the impression there haven't been plans to physically reissue them due to potential redundancy. They were remastered around 2009 and 2010 (just like the albums, same mastering team as well), and those were made available to streaming and download services, including lossless formats to vendors who sold them, but they decided not to reissue the CD's themselves with the new mastering. Maybe there was some economic reason, I don't know, but once they started with the album box sets, it didn't seem like something they'd do anymore simply because so much of the same material was included on the box sets. Different mixes or different edits perhaps, but similar enough that it would've seemed too redundant.

there is less overlap than you’d think.

Another factor with the outtakes is that there are no definitive mixes as there are for the released tracks, since they were left aside at the time. I’ve seen a bit of discussion about editing choices and decisions to leave entire elements out, e.g. backing vocals on Strawberry Fields take 1.

i was thinking about that very thing while listening to the white album outtakes on the box set last night. even the most finished of these don't have an ultimate mix; I would be happy if they'd do 'official' mixes of Not Guilty, Leave My Kitten Alone, a full You Know My Name, etc.

If You've Got Troubles sounds like fucking shit on Anthology. It's not their best song but it's pretty good!

oh wait, it's That Means a Lot that sounds like shit. And I guess the mix of Not Guilty on the white album deluxe is about as official as it can get. anyway.

This makes me laugh, a classic of the Macca/Harrison dynamic

https://x.com/beatleboot/status/1721266358581608855?s=46&t=bJOqpCuQneT7ju08y55VSA

I gotta say the red album sounds fucking great

Sounds like Giles struggled a bit with She Loves You, but the rest of the first 10 songs sound amazing (exception being Love Me Do).

She Loves You sounds as though its playing in the next room.

I skipped ahead to AHDN and Ringo's bongos are distracting

Agreed. You Really Got a Hold On Me was a highlight for me.

It’s going to take me a while to get used to some of the Ringo enhanced mixes before I can decide if I prefer them to the originals.

With so many rubber soul tracks will they release a boxset for that one now ?

Actual goosebumps listening to John’s vocals on « twist and shout »!

Had to jump to I Am the Walrus after someone (Sheffield?) warned of the changes in the fade-out. There's maybe a ten second stretch where it's almost unrecognisable as the same song. It's more radical than the version on Love and I'm just confused really.

i think "she loves you" and "love me do" are the worst of the new mixes because everything except the final mono master was lost for those recordings, while the other tracks at least had a bit more to work with

i'm pretty impressed by all the others so far

xp hey guys you could release it in ... mono

it's wild to be able to hear some of the details like the "a hard day's night" bongos

these feel pretty universally superior to the old stereo mixes as i'd have hoped

Spotify's algorithms seem to have decided that two of the 2023 remixes on the Red album are not noticeably different enough from the previous ones to get their own playcount

https://i.imgur.com/VgyhOkE.png

What’s actually gone wrong technically with She Loves You then?

This might be a good time to remind people of the Prof Stoned versions of tracks by the Beatles and others. Here's the Prof Stoned She Loves You, which sounds a lot better to my ears. Available a bonus track on the With the Beatles job:

https://www.transfernow.net/dl/20231110NZfYNor6

Stereo too, I should have added

What’s actually gone wrong technically with She Loves You then?

it's a MAL assisted demix from mono; I haven't listened to this one yet but will later. I thought the Love Me Do demix sounded great. But I generally prefer the monos of those early records.

The new mixes do sound snappy

Looking forward to seeing how all this sounds through speakers but on my earbuds Hey Bulldog might be my favourite new mix. I'll still take the mono Revolution over the new one.

Magical Mystery Tour and Old Brown Shoe sound like the best remixes on the blue album to my ears.

Agreed. You Really Got a Hold On Me was a highlight for me.

Guitar stabs on “Can’t Find Me Love” pretty shockingly harsh

there's some guitar stuff missing from Old Brown Shoe which is kind of weird but the bass sounds great.

_Agreed. You Really Got a Hold On Me was a highlight for me._

Forget who’s mainly singing the harmony vocal on this, is it George or John with himself?