who's next after broadcast
i would like to try to do the 2010s poll sometime in the next few months, at last, but i'll have to coordinate that with moka if they're still onboard, and with anyone else who wants to help
― ufo, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 01:27 (one year ago) link
Yeah I’m on board!
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 01:45 (one year ago) link
TEARS IN THE TYPING POLL: ILM Artist Poll #114 - BROADCAST (Results Thread)
This is officially no longer any sort of impediment, so go go go
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 4 June 2022 04:16 (one year ago) link
So into a 2010s poll! Don't know what help you need, ufo, but definitely want to if I can
― Vinnie, Saturday, 4 June 2022 04:21 (one year ago) link
if anyone's ready to run a poll right now, feel free to start & i'll be ready to start the 2010s poll when you're done, otherwise i'll hopefully be ready to start it it sometime in the next week.
i've ilxmailed you Moka, if that's the best way to contact you. i'll let people know if there's any more help needed
― ufo, Saturday, 4 June 2022 05:37 (one year ago) link
sorry is there a better way to contact you moka?
― ufo, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 06:37 (one year ago) link
"I would have voted if I'd known about it,"
Obviously a tale as old as time, but having seen a number of people voice this sentiment in the decade poll (and having missed the 2021 tracks and albums polls myself) I wonder if there's some way to make poll threads (or at least their deadlines) stand out somehow.
― peace, man, Friday, 26 August 2022 13:44 (one year ago) link
A moderator could put up a site admin message, but the one time I suggested that it got loud disapproval, probably rightly so.
― DPRK in Cincinnati (WmC), Friday, 26 August 2022 14:36 (one year ago) link
Yeah, that's along the lines of what I was thinking, but I can see the problems with it as well. Maybe just a separate page, like the Admin Log, but a Poll Log, with columns just being: Poll Title, Submission Deadline, Rollout Dates.
― peace, man, Friday, 26 August 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link
I would have voted, but was trying to improve the quality of the results
― Karl Malone, Friday, 26 August 2022 15:19 (one year ago) link
the board could really use a pinned threads feature
one option is putting deadlines in the thread titles but they always inevitably get extended which would require chasing mods to edit the title etc.
― ufo, Friday, 26 August 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link
The NOMINATIONS & then VOTING thread for the 2010s poll were fairly constantly near the top of Site New Answers for a good few weeks so it seemed pretty hard to miss
― groovypanda, Sunday, 28 August 2022 08:08 (one year ago) link
I definitely noticed it this time, but other people in the thread still missed it somehow.
On the other hand, I had been anticipating the 2021 EOY poll voting thread (which had about half as many posts as the 2010s voting thread) and it just never crossed my screen. I eventually went searching for it and found that the voting deadline had passed.
― peace, man, Sunday, 28 August 2022 22:43 (one year ago) link
EOY schedule is the same every year (nominations close early January, voting ends 2-3 weeks later) - you can set a reminder already!
― TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Sunday, 28 August 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link
Fair enough.
― peace, man, Sunday, 28 August 2022 23:55 (one year ago) link
Are the powers that be ok with me doing a Wilco poll next? Would welcome help with images!
― Indexed, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link
ILM's Top 100 Tracks of the 2010s
ILM 2010s Tracks Poll: stats, ballots, norwegian disco, too much pop, all sound like a dream to me
ILM's Top 100 Albums of the 2010s
ILM 2010s Albums Poll Stats: 1270 Loved Albums
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link
Are the powers that be ok with me doing a Wilco poll next? Would welcome help with images!― Indexed, Tuesday, August 30, 2022 9:57 AM (one hour ago)
― Indexed, Tuesday, August 30, 2022 9:57 AM (one hour ago)
#115 is all yours Indexed as I don't see anyone else ready to do a poll at this time. I will also vote in a Wilco poll.
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link
Wilco will POLL you baby
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link
All right, I will plan to start this up soon. Thanks Bee OK.
― Indexed, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link
im-POLL-sible germany
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link
Random POLL Generator
― Porcine-lina of the Pig Oceans (morrisp), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link
I Am Trying to POLL Your Heart
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link
it's hot in the POLL places tonight
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link
She Fell in Love with the Drummer: The Wilco Poll.
(Yeah, I know--something's missing.)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link
Short on long-term POLLS
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 22:03 (one year ago) link
His POLL in life was to be an echo.
I would POLL if I could come back new.
I dreamed about POLLING you again last night.
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 22:04 (one year ago) link
POLL, Etc.
― The Ghost Club, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 22:05 (one year ago) link
Wilco (The Poll)
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 22:06 (one year ago) link
Yankee...POLLtel...Foxtrot...
― peace, man, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 22:12 (one year ago) link
This is the best. Should be followed by
Wilco (The Results)
― nate woolls, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link
When You Wake Up Feeling POLL - ILM Artist Poll #115 - WILCO/JEFF TWEEDY (Voting Open til Sunday, Sep. 18)
― Bee OK, Sunday, 4 September 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link
Are there best practices on tabulating results captured someplace? Or someone with experience who could answer some questions or share a google sheet with me?
I had planned to just give 1 point to the lowest ranking track/album and the number of tracks/albums to the highest ranking track/album. e.g., in a 5 album poll, 5 points. Is this standard? I am struggling to back into the math used in some of the prior polls but it seems like higher point values were assigned. Not sure if that would make a difference mathematically though.
I also don't totally know how to handle partial ballots. In the above example, if someone only lists 3 albums, would you assign those albums 5, 4, and 3 points, OR 3, 2, and 1 point? Or something else?
Thanks!
― Indexed, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link
5, 4, and 3 in the latter case
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link
here is that original doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-6UZjUc-eioPify1wTOMXe_dSsjOQ6pBu0ZjT0I7CCQ/edit#gid=0
I have always used that formula but added 10 point so number one would always get 50 points: 50, 36, 33, 30, 28, 26, 25, 24...You might need to start at 60 since this is a 40 track ballot.
Number ones always get the same score regardless of how many are submitted.
I have also done both, the same above scoring for albums and the simple 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 scoring but yeah all number ones got the 5 in that case.
Hope this helps.
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link
I'd like to do a Canterbury Scene poll at some point. No time to do it now, and would probably need a bit of help, but maybe next year sometime.
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 18:09 (one year ago) link
looking at that spreadsheet I have never used the same number twice...so the number would keep going down for each placement: 25, 24, 23, 22, 21 20...
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link
I will add you to the list
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― Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link
Thanks, Bee OK. So you're saying you effectively give a #1 a "bonus" of 10 extra points, yes? Do you do that for the Albums too?
― Indexed, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link
No, sorry when I say add 10 points I mean the overall scoring. So adding 10 means that the original starts at 40 points but I have always started at 50 points and then worked my way down.
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link
50, 36, 33, 30, 28, 26, 25, 24...
So number one does get 4 more points than number two which gets 3 more points than number three...
Albums too but the simple 5, 4, 3 scoring sort of works better for Albums.
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link
<<squints at explanation. raises eyebrow. closes browser.>>
― Indexed, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link
Taking Sides
50, 46, 43, 40, 38, 36, 35, 34
vs
50, 36, 33, 30, 28, 26, 25, 24
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:09 (one year ago) link
I've always used the top one. I think it's more important to check ballots for spelling and punctuation, e.g. in this ballot make sure "Jesus, Etc." and "Jesus Etc" are counted together in the pivot table
― nate woolls, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link
lol, no wonder there is some confusion:
I meant: 50, 46, 43, 40, 38, 36, 35, 34
Going too fast and doing other things...
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:25 (one year ago) link
thanks everyone!
― Indexed, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link
I always used a linear scale, which is what the EOY polls use, so for poll of ballot size 40, #1 gets 80 points, #2 gets 78 points, and so on, all the way down to #40 gets 2 points
― ufo, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 00:37 (one year ago) link
There's a pivot table in the spreadsheet? No wonder I haven't been able to figure out how it works!
At some point you've got to sort the song list alphabetically so you can easily spot typos and such. Or paste the song list in an empty tab and then "remove doubles"--if any title appears twice, one of them has a typo.
― Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 05:02 (one year ago) link
I'm going to add The Police to my queue.
I'm going to do Super Furry Animals in the next six months (the timing feels right), just a heads up.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link
looking forward to SFA
― ufo, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 23:34 (one year ago) link