― JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 15:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
i suppose if you lived in the pop-punk capitol of the world you may possibly grow tired of pick scrapes, guitar kicks and songs that rhyme 'girl' with 'world'. however, in the land of thinly veiled stoner jam rock that is montreal, liking sugar ray, sum 41 (or any punk band with rap parts), LFO and the entire 94 lookout! roster is imperative.
ps. i also start lots of fights at parties by stating "bob dylan is the biggest bullshit artist of the 20th century"
i have no real way of backing that up but it usually makes people so blind with rage that no argument ensues anyways
― ddd, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 15:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 15:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mary b. (mary b.), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 15:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
Friend! I've never said it quite so bluntly, but to a very great extent I agree with you here. :-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
If Sublime had more interesting sounds, I'd like them more (I do enjoy "What I Got" and "Santeria," so there ya go). I think living in OC has affected yer ears on all this.
― Anthony Miccio, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
You could say that about a lot of bands, though! And in some cases it's warranted, doubtless. I don't sense that Sugar Ray and never have. I sense a bunch of flailing bullshitters. McGrath enjoys being a prick, based on the stories I've heard, and he's welcome to it.
I think living in OC has affected yer ears on all this.
I would hate them were I in deepest Kazakhstan.
I'm all for bands finding, as Mark McGrath puts it, their "sound."
Oh good god. Their 'sound' was becoming the new Jimmy goddamn Buffet and one was plenty enough! Fucking fuck.
And is Beck any less smug?
I'm not much of a fan of him either.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 16:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
Prepackaged, presold, accept-no-alternate-interpretations 'fun' in all of life -- tour groups with perky tour guides hitting all the 'sights,' going to summer camp and doing 'activities,' whatever you like -- is one of the most obnoxious things ever. It may not be evil, but it sure is a corrosive timewaster. 'Fun,' however defined, happens as it does, where you find it and how you find it. Those are the memories that linger for me the longest, with groups of people, out of them, whatever. Don't tell me you're a 'fun' band, prove it! And if you fail with me, that's life and subjective opinion.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 17:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 17:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 17:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 17:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
Heh. They never hurt. ;-) But it's interesting, I haven't really gotten thrilled by any UK scene in the past few years aside from garage, and that only to the extent I get to hear various singles. And keep in mind one of my favorite ever bands, with an aesthetic and grace of approach that never grows tired, are the Walkabouts, and neither UK accents nor radiator hums are part of their vision of things. ;-)
I have a feeling you won't like my upcoming review in the voice, that's for sure (I'm not telling whut its about...).
No need to fret, here's where I admit I don't really read the Voice or many other music publications at all these days! ;-) Most new music I've found via the joy of shared mp3s. It's odd, though, since I wouldn't mind writing for the Voice at all.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 17:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 17:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― ddd, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 18:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 18:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 18:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 18:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
DDD's point is a good one, though, about why and how elements can attract. 'Mid tempo party rock' is, well, dull to my ears. Very dull, generally speaking, comfort food that's not very thrilling. I prefer pop apocalypse over a slow grind...
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 19:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 19:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
I saw a thing on some TV programme a few weeks ago where someone said 'Sugar Gay' somewhere on the street where Mark from Sugar Ray was within earshot. I think it was outside of some award show. What followed was hysterical. "Who said that? It was you wasn't it? It was you! You fucking dipshit! You little man! You insignificant piece of shit!" etc etc, all the while Mark pointing at some teenager, almost threatening to hit him.
― JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 19:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio, Tuesday, 12 November 2002 19:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
'Pop apocalypse' = 'wow, WHAT THE FUCK?' as opposed to, 'Oh, okay.' I am a sucker for something that sounds world-stompingly huge or disjointed as opposed to easy-going good times when it comes to the charts. I'm keeping this intentionally vague because it should cover all sorts of musical bases, but admittedly something like "Party Hard" goes against this because it's certainly aiming to sound pretty damn big but I just think falls flat in general.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 19:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
(scroll down to Tom's post)
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 20:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 12 November 2002 20:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― ddd, Wednesday, 13 November 2002 03:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
wish Mark McGrath's rock n roll jeopardy appearances from the late 90s were on Youtube
― Cunga, Saturday, 29 December 2012 05:10 (eleven years ago) link
me too!! i've never seen them and i've searched several times
― teledyldonix, Saturday, 29 December 2012 07:11 (eleven years ago) link
Whoops!
http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2013/10/sugar_ray_mcgrath_lawsuit.php
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 October 2013 00:12 (ten years ago) link
ahahahahahha amazing
You gotta watch this video PLEASE pic.twitter.com/GNFf70iDwa— Vincent Bec (@slasherdaysaint) November 24, 2019
― frogbs, Monday, 25 November 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link
lmao oh my god
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link
Wonderful
― FODMAP of the reef (morrisp), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:04 (four years ago) link
honestly can't decide if this is heartless & cruel or actually kinda thoughtful
― frogbs, Monday, 25 November 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link
I wonder if that cameo was real or if mark mcgrath got pranked but either way that’s hilarious
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Monday, 25 November 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link
All the things that you used to sayAll the words that got in the wayAll the things that you used to knowGood luck on your thesis, bro
― omar little, Monday, 25 November 2019 21:11 (four years ago) link
ahahahahahahhaha
― frogbs, Monday, 25 November 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link
honestly, he is the best
― alpine static, Monday, 25 November 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link
Mark, I mean. Not Brayden.
― alpine static, Monday, 25 November 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link
Mark did a way better job with this than most people would have. But still, to Brayden, this probably came across like the South Park episode with Radiohead
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 00:32 (four years ago) link
They also can turn down those cameo requests, probably wld have been the best way to handle it.That being said I wonder what the requisite $$ amount was
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 00:44 (four years ago) link
Mark McGrath is not turning down 100 dollars, dude was in several Sharknados
― frogbs, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 00:46 (four years ago) link
off the charts but always in your hearts
― dyl, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 01:17 (four years ago) link
Also how did this get out, did Brayden send it to someone or what
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 04:35 (four years ago) link
I think all the Cameo videos go on their website??
― frogbs, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 04:43 (four years ago) link
You choose if you want it public or private at time of purchase. Anybody can see the public ones.
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 07:55 (four years ago) link
Which makes this especially nasty if that is what was done by the purchaser, in addition to this terribly insensitive message.
McGrath's delivery is next level ridiculous. Like if it wasn't three am I'd be screaming with laughter.
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 07:59 (four years ago) link
Just $100?? Do you think the dude from Smash Mouth would read my resignation letter aloud to my boss
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 08:44 (four years ago) link
it's come out that it was a joke request and he was aware it was a joke
anyway did you know there was a new sugar ray album this year titled little yachty "The album title is a reference to both rapper Lil Yachty and the fact that McGrath views Sugar Ray as a "yacht rock" band.[24][25]"
― ufo, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 09:39 (four years ago) link
Sugar Ray is Lake Havasu houseboat rock
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:06 (four years ago) link
I'm certain that there is at least one small midwestern college town where people still gather at a local watering hole on a Friday night to see the local Sugar Ray cover band (who also occasionaly perform a sprinkling of Matchbox 20 and Cake tunes to mix things up), almost as if the last twenty years never happened at all.
― War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:13 (four years ago) link
But now those kids are listening to their parents music.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link
I stopped going to a bar because they always had a cover band that did the Sugar Ray/Cake/M20/etc. '90s set but all in the style of Sublime.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:17 (four years ago) link
Wow, I can't believe I was so spot-on with the half-joking fictional scenario I painted. And yet I'm still disappointed at myself for leaving Sublime out of the mix.
― War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link
90s cover bands in the Sugar Ray/Cake/M20 nexus are very easy to find on a Friday night in my small american city
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link
(I think I was basing this upon my own experience wherein the last act I saw in my own midwestern college town before leaving in '07 was a RHCP cover band.)
― War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, November 26, 2019 8:15 AM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Yes, one of the more important implicit points here is that Sugar Ray came into existence a quarter century ago. Please, let's all meditate upon that fact.
― War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link
not enough new jamminess on the radio, what can you expect really
― maffew12, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link
one thing I remember growing up is that 60s & 70s nostalgia was very popular, during summer vacation I'd watch old Hanna-Barbara cartoons, Gilligan's Island, and game shows like The Price is Right that were rooted in a bygone era. obviously it was very clear that this stuff was supposed to appeal to your parents but it was pretty much all that was on outside of infomercials and soap operas.
nowadays when I go work out there's always a station playing Friends, which is as old today as Happy Days was when I was growing up, and I wonder if there's a whole generation of kids watching this and chuckling whenever they see like, a landline phone or something.
recently I hosted a poker game & made a playlist of tunes that I figured the other guys would appreciate, when playing it back it kinda struck me that a lot of the stuff I picked was either from the 90s or had a lot of the same hallmarks as that music. and yeah one of the songs I picked was "Someday" which I figured was a bit corny but that was the one that made people sit up and go, "holy shit, Sugar Ray! I used to love this song!" and yeah that's when I realized a huge chunk of your personality is forever gonna be attached to whatever was popular when you were 12
― frogbs, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 15:19 (four years ago) link
One of my strongest teenage memories is the beach trip my friends and I took post-high school graduation, where I must have heard "Someday" like 6+ times over those few days. It perfectly captured the mix of joy and melancholy I was feeling as I spent the last couple months with my closest friends before we all went different ways. I couldn't come up with a bigger cliche. so frogbs otm
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link
Question adjacent to the threads of discussion currently ongoing: did Mark McGrath come out of the womb looking like that, and is it safe to assume that he will still look like that when he is technically if not visibly elderly?
― War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link
At first I thought that was a young Mark McGrath imitator or something, and it was part of the joke. Not a 50 year old. The hair! I want to see it in 4k.
― file of unknown origin (bendy), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link
yeah he's got the waxy Ray Liotta/Papa John look going now
― frogbs, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link
But not even, really! He's just always looked like he was in his mid-to-late 30s imo.
― War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link
Lmao this is gonna be his new career
A message to backup QB Mason Rudolph from Mark McGrath of Sugar Ray (🗣SOUND UP🗣) pic.twitter.com/oBGJUwggzH— Pardon My Take (@PardonMyTake) November 26, 2019
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 00:48 (four years ago) link
Did he get his nostrils waxed
― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 00:54 (four years ago) link
Getting a bit of Michael Jackson nose there
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 03:19 (four years ago) link
"There is no 'me' in 'team'. There's no 'I' either. There might be a 'me'"
This felt very Trumpian
― Vinnie, Thursday, 28 November 2019 02:27 (four years ago) link