Sigur Ros vs. Sugar Ray

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I piss all my friends off by calling sigur ros as "sugar ross"
then the other day i checked out the sugar ray website only to realise that 'when it's over' is pure pop genius

sigur ros = bore fest, sugar ray = pop genius
or
sigur ros = high art, sugar ray = total garbage

the question is best answered after a double blind sugar ray vs. sigur ros listening test

ddd, Sunday, 29 September 2002 18:39 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

the shimmering fact-spectre of Sugar Jones owns every inch of this thread

the actual mr. jones smith (actual), Sunday, 29 September 2002 19:21 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

a friend of mine swears by "remember when days were like that" as a total summer tune (2001 ? or 2000 ?) but i never could stomach that slow shit.

ddd, Sunday, 29 September 2002 22:28 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

how about this equation:

sigur ros = crap, sugar ray = crap

Tad (llamasfur), Sunday, 29 September 2002 23:24 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"when it's over" really is great. it's funny how they started with a crap hit, and then just kept repeating the formula until it eventually became something good. maybe that phenomenon deserves a thread? (not that i'm gonna, but if anyone else wants to, please run with it)

Al (sitcom), Monday, 30 September 2002 01:47 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

the wierd thing about them is their 'betting on all the race horses' mentality. their last album had their signature beach party roc (when it's over) as well as some pop-punk, some alterna-rock and a few slow jams: a pretty crazy mix of image.

ddd, Monday, 30 September 2002 02:13 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I prefer the one with all the sleazeballs in the roller skate rink. Can't remember how it goes offhand.

gazuga (gazuga), Monday, 30 September 2002 07:51 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

their last album had their signature beach party roc (when it's over) as well as some pop-punk, some alterna-rock and a few slow jams: a pretty crazy mix of image.

that's pretty much how i feel about the sigur ros album as well.

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Monday, 30 September 2002 20:01 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I quite like Sugar Ray singles, although a halfway-decent singer would be a great help to them.

"When It's Over" -- was that the one that sounded like some sort of Trash Can Sinatras / America hybrid? (Cause that was the one I liked best.)

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 30 September 2002 20:15 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

sugar ray: damn near a cover band

Steph (Steph), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 00:06 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

sigur ros could never write anything as good as "fly."

Eisbaer, Friday, 28 March 2008 05:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

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The Reverend, Friday, 28 March 2008 06:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

this is like

J0rdan S., Friday, 28 March 2008 06:23 (eleven years ago) Permalink

one million dollars v. genital warts

J0rdan S., Friday, 28 March 2008 06:23 (eleven years ago) Permalink

they're very catchy warts tho

bernard snowy, Friday, 28 March 2008 13:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

from another thread:

sigur ros doesn't have an invisible touch in them

-- jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 28 February 2003 17:23 (5 years ago) Link

Eisbaer, Friday, 28 March 2008 14:17 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Sugar Ray vs. Sister Ray

kornrulez6969, Friday, 28 March 2008 15:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

'fly' is great but i would still vote for sigur ros.

omar little, Friday, 28 March 2008 16:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink

they're very catchy warts tho

-- bernard snowy, Friday, March 28, 2008 8:18 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

no sigur ros are the warts

J0rdan S., Friday, 28 March 2008 17:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

sigur ros could never write anything as good as "fly."

― Eisbaer, Friday, March 28, 2008 1:32 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark

i still stand behind this statement -- even more so now.

keine Macht für dich mehr! (Eisbaer), Sunday, 23 May 2010 14:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's in the Declaration of Independence iirc.

The Reverend, Sunday, 23 May 2010 14:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol @ anyone who fell for Sigur Ros. whadda crock of shit

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"YOU SAY LOOOOOOOOO"

"omg i'm crying"

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ksh, Sunday, 23 May 2010 15:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

another sugar ray plus: they don't have a "svefn-f-englar" video in 'em.

keine Macht für dich mehr! (Eisbaer), Sunday, 23 May 2010 15:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

I am thoroughly disgusted at the sugar ray defense that's been sweeping ILM as of late.

Tonight I Dine on Turtle Soup (EDB), Sunday, 23 May 2010 15:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

I assure you I've been defending Sugar Ray since 97.

The Reverend, Sunday, 23 May 2010 15:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

a statue has never crumbled 4 me :-(

ksh, Sunday, 23 May 2010 15:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

you have not been ALLLL ARRROOOOUUUUND THE WOOOOORRRRLLLD, obv

The Reverend, Sunday, 23 May 2010 15:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

O_O u r rite

ksh, Sunday, 23 May 2010 15:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

it's not so much defending Sugar Ray (i really like only a few of their songs -- otherwise, i don't really have much of an opinion about 'em one way or another, they were really just a generic late 90s kinda-OK sorta-alternative group) as it is that if someone had a gun to my head and forced me to choose b/w them and Sigur Ros, then "fly" would win out every time over "svefn-g-englar" or whatever.

keine Macht für dich mehr! (Eisbaer), Sunday, 23 May 2010 16:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

the old "the simple pleasures of a simple pop song" vs. "the refined pleasures of a massive epic" debate all over again, in other words.

keine Macht für dich mehr! (Eisbaer), Sunday, 23 May 2010 16:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

I jammed "floored" pretty regularly growing up :/

Face Book (dyao), Sunday, 23 May 2010 16:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

love hearing "fly", "every morning" while at the hardware store or whatever. the video for "fly" kind of warms my heart for some reason.
sugar ray's stuff with metal guitars is really bad, though.

i like the dark frosty stuff on the "alien fetus" sigur ros album. not at all into the whole heavy orchestra syrupy Sound of Music thing.

so i pick sugar ray, because i rarely hear a bad song of theirs in public. sigur ros's whole rep now is due to their andrew lloyd weber style that i abhor so greatly.

hobbes, Sunday, 23 May 2010 23:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

replace "andrew lloyd weber" with "orchestras and emotive cooing" there

hobbes, Sunday, 23 May 2010 23:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

Sugar Ray singles (never heard anything else tbh) were all really good by the standards of the era. Sigur Ros has bored me.

Cunga, Sunday, 23 May 2010 23:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

In 2000, Sugar Ray did a cover version of John Cale and Brian Eno's "Spinning Away" for the soundtrack to "The Beach".

Wait -- what?

Cunga, Sunday, 23 May 2010 23:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

not a bad looking soundtrack there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beach_%28film%29#Track_listing

hobbes, Sunday, 23 May 2010 23:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

it's a pretty decent cover but can't compare w/ original

iatee, Monday, 24 May 2010 00:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

"When It's Over": the soundtrack to American innocence in the days before 9-11. After that the world was too cynical and world-weary for a man like Mark McGrath to flourish in it.

Cunga, Monday, 24 May 2010 00:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

it's a pretty decent cover but can't compare w/ original

It's surprisingly terrific, actually. McGrath nails the vocal.

And, yeah, The Beach soundtrack was essential for me in the pre-Napster days when all I wanted was the new New Order song, Orbital, and UNKLE.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 May 2010 00:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

McGrath is flourishing as a host for Extra or Entertainment Tonight these days, isn't he?

hobbes, Monday, 24 May 2010 00:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

i doubt that Jonsi would be a good TV show host, at least not after Sigur Ros's infamous NPR interview.

keine Macht für dich mehr! (Eisbaer), Monday, 24 May 2010 00:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

iirc Mr. McGrath did not do poorly the time I watched his performance on "Celebrity Jeopardy."

frozen cookie (Abbott), Monday, 24 May 2010 01:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

you mean "rock n roll jeopardy?" i think it saw that one.. he was wayyy schooled, iirc, like he killed the competition.

hobbes, Monday, 24 May 2010 01:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

Some fake Jeopardy for good-looking, well-known people, yeah.

frozen cookie (Abbott), Monday, 24 May 2010 01:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

I need to get on that one then.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 May 2010 01:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

mcgrath has def spent his career - I dunno if 'playing dumb' is the right way to put it, but...

iatee, Monday, 24 May 2010 02:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

sugar ray probably could never make a credible appearance on "game of thrones."

빨간 럼 ఎరుపు రమ్ רום אדום (Eisbaer), Monday, 11 April 2016 20:09 (three years ago) Permalink

If that sack of turds that call themselves Coldplay could, anyone can.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 08:20 (three years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

This is actually a hard question.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 10 February 2019 05:38 (two months ago) Permalink

"All around the world statues crumble for me" is a great opening line

brimstead, Sunday, 10 February 2019 05:50 (two months ago) Permalink

Sugar Ray and it’s not close.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 10 February 2019 14:33 (two months ago) Permalink

i don't recall sigur ros releasing work as essential as "someday" and "when it's over"?

dyl, Sunday, 10 February 2019 16:56 (two months ago) Permalink

what the hell pic.twitter.com/hJ4qk0QlyP

— stefan heck (@boring_as_heck) August 30, 2018

dyl, Sunday, 10 February 2019 16:56 (two months ago) Permalink


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