Kate/Kae Tempest

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Hi there. This is a sincere suggestion, but if you have... questions, concerns, comments, genuine requests for discussion or a desire for explanation / learning moments (rather than you are ~having a bunch of feelings about trans and nonbinary people~ and their pesky pronouns, name changes etc. - not to mention projecting into their "supposed" beliefs?) there's a whole thread for that right here:

Trans Politics, Trans Activism, also 'rolling is this transphobic?' thread

Perhaps use that space to work through your feelings and come to a better understanding, rather than spaffing up threads for trans and nonbinary artists, with stuff that sounds and feels uncomfortably like dogwhistle transphobia to a lot of the people here?

mysterious nonbinary sea creature (Branwell with an N), Saturday, 20 February 2021 12:45 (three years ago) link

otm

The Scampo Fell to Earth (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 February 2021 12:46 (three years ago) link

Should we get an admin to change the thread name? Could call it Kate/Kae Tempest since the thread starts in the Kate years.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra)

Yes. As always, I think it'll stay as the original for bookmarks, but will change for everything else. I'll change it to your suggestion for search purposes, but if anyone has any strong feelings about getting rid of the old name entirely then let us know.

mod, Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link

I'm assuming (alex in mainhattan) is not from the US (or UK) and therefore the advances in this culturally over the past several years may have passed him by. I'm not sure how other countries are addressing this evolution.

akm, Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:43 (three years ago) link

German, I think?

I'm Going to Bring a Watermelon to Mark Grout Tonight (Tom D.), Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:47 (three years ago) link

The visibility of the issue is definitely maximal in the anglosphere and, I suppose, areas that have always been on the LGBTQ forefront like Scandinavia (see "hen"). Language creativity and flexibility aside, there's bound to be slower and different uptake given levels of conservatism / liberality in politics and culture. For example, there's still heavy resistance to the use of inclusive language in gendered French, so there's a long way to go to accept pronouns such as iel in, say, the work sphere. Not that acceptability of the pronoun is a measure for the rest.

To Branwell: I won't dignify "dogwhistle transphobia" but sorry if my comment seemed insensitive and thank you for your offer.

Nabozo, Sunday, 21 February 2021 14:30 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Anyone listened to this new album? It's good! Wider range of beats and guests than prior, to good effect.


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