Pavement:Classic or Dud

I will not tolerate Major Leagues or Newark Wilder hate ITT. What is wrong with you people

PO5: Worst Pavement and Malkmus tracks

I've warmed to Gold Soundz a bit.

contentious list indeed.

i'd agree w black book though. woof.

Stephen Malkmus >>> TT

^ deffo

question for the old heads: were "My First Mine" & "My Radio" on Westing originally from Drag City comps?

"My Radio" came out on this comp, but it wasn't a Drag City one

"My First Mine", iirc, was from some British magazine flexi

ah nice. thanks!

xp note: "My Radio" was put out on former ILXor Mike McGonigal's excellent Zine Chemical Imbalance.

"My First Mine" came out on this flexi:
https://www.discogs.com/Fluff-3-Pavement-Us-My-First-Mine/release/1558792

I have that flexi, found it in a charity shop years ago

Thanks for filling in the rest of the info, I was impressed enough with myself remembering the Chemical Imbalance comp! Had no idea an ILXor was involved.

Newark wilder is the best song on crcr

Definitely a highlight

On some days I concur with brimstead on this

Never realized - until now - the debt that the "Half a Canyon" outro owes to Swell Maps' "Full Moon in My Pocket"... particularly the "Full Moon (Reprise)." That is all.

shit baby

Why do these guys tour/play Europe (only)? Are there really more Pavement fans there than the US?

I'm hoping a US tour will follow. To be fair, they haven't toured anywhere since 2010, have they?

Not toured, but I think they've played (or at least scheduled) a few Euro fests. Hopefully a US tour is TBA, yeah.

They toured all over 10 years ago and haven't done any shows since.

My guess is they will do some US dates either next summer or maybe spring/summer 2023.

Remember, those NYC shows 10 years ago were announced first (4 nights I believe) and a bunch of people bought tickets

A few weeks later *then* the US tour was announced

Primavera has been on the books since a little before pre COVID

If I recall correctly, they said when they originally announced Primavera 18+ months ago that further touring was coming in 2021. No question they'll tour America in 2022. This is just a normal first leg announcement.

With that said, I'm tempted to fly over for a London vaca around that four-night stand. Wish I could feel assured of a different set of songs every night, but that seems unlikely given the circumstances. Four nights of 15 of the same songs plus switching in and out another 7 or whatever is less appealing.

£50! is that normal these days & i'm just old? oh well, plumped for the last night of the london shows.

They added another Dublin date such was the demand. Got a ticket for their second show -60 euro

Songkick.com lists a few SF dates in 2022 (Sept. 12, 13, and 14, at the Masonic); but they’re not on the official tour page, and a Mon.–Wed. hometown run sounds unlikely. Maybe a weird glitch?

Interestingly, Primavera Sound Los Angeles (2022) is Fri, 9/16 – Sun, 9/18 (a friend has a “theory” they’ll play that fest). The dates do line up…

That'd be great if Pavement's at PS LA. Makes sense given their first shows back will be at Primavera Sound in Barcelona.

The dates are up: https://pavementband.com/#tour

https://pitchfork.com/news/pavement-announce-slanted-and-enchanted-30th-anniversary-reissue/

Anyone ever hear the two non-LP songs on the cassette – “Pain Smiles” and “Pillowjack”?

(I mean, anyone here)

Maybe they should just wait until the 100th anniversary and include everything. Please and thank you.

Never heard or heard of 'em. Getting time-vertigo considering that twice as much time has elapsed between this and Luxe & Reduxe (which is what introduced me to the band!), than between L&R and the original album.

As with Pixies, I never got these guys. I think I was just a little too old to catch the moment.

xpost, email from Matador's publicist says this:

"This is an early version of the finished album with a different running order and a handful of alternate track titles."

i take that to mean that there are no new songs on the cassette.

Is there a way to hear this podcast without Spotify? (I assume it’ll be everywhere in a week)

i just realized that this year has now brought us the 25th ann'y of Brighten, the TT reissue and the 30th ann'y of Slanted

I assume Pillowjack is Sue Me Jack

Pain Smiles is. . . . ?

Is there a way to hear this podcast without Spotify? (I assume it’ll be everywhere in a week)

There isn't but the podcast is totally great

What podcast?

Never mind, found it on the TT thread

slightly offtopic, but morrisp - do you still have that david's gone file from the burned cd? wondering if i could do something to decode/convert it somehow - no promises though

Sorry, I don’t!

ah well, was worth asking... have been on the hunt for that track and have gotten close to finding it a million times, no luck yet unfortunately

another copy of the tape just sold on ebay today though, so who knows

$399 for a TDK D60? Holy moley…

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We’re seeing them on Monday the 23rd, at the Fonda

How much were your tix?

I think around $120 each (incl. fees)

That’s a lot of greenlander

Wave your credit cards in the air, right?

(we’re also seeing them in September, more than once…)