I can already see this becoming a very contentious thread.
― dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 14 September 2003 16:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Patrick South (Patrick South), Sunday, 14 September 2003 16:18 (twenty years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 14 September 2003 16:20 (twenty years ago) link
I probably haven't even heard the worst ones cuz it's not like I've dug through b-sides and stuff.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 14 September 2003 16:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 14 September 2003 16:27 (twenty years ago) link
1. Fillmore jive2. The second Malkmus record is growing on me now, I listened to it there recently (for the 1st time in ages) and I think I was overly harsh about it at first, it's pretty enjoyable....I'm just not too gone on his really proggy stuff like "Witch mountain bridge"3. Dark Wave is annoying too4. AT&T is bog-standard indie rock5. Platform blues
― Michael B, Sunday, 14 September 2003 17:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Nick Mirov (nick), Sunday, 14 September 2003 17:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Jeremy (Jeremy), Sunday, 14 September 2003 18:09 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 14 September 2003 18:51 (twenty years ago) link
I forgot that I was a big Pavement fan. Carey's right.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 14 September 2003 18:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 14 September 2003 19:00 (twenty years ago) link
I keeeeeel you!
― stevie (stevie), Sunday, 14 September 2003 19:03 (twenty years ago) link
I picked "Type Slowly" for my least favorite Brighten track because of the lyrics ("one of us is a cigar stand and one of us is a lovely blue incandescent guillotine"... uh, right, whatever, Steve). Although I freely admit that there are a number ocontenders for the lazy-songwriting crown on Brighten.
As for "Gold Soundz", "Fillmore Jive", "AT&T", and maybe "Date w/IKEA"... well, I have a feeling that I'm not going to be making any new friends in this thread.
― Nick Mirov (nick), Sunday, 14 September 2003 20:18 (twenty years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 14 September 2003 21:52 (twenty years ago) link
You hate pop, Nick Mirov. Or at least it doesn't fit in your definition of what Pavement SHOULD have been doing.
God I love those four songs. "Gold Soundz" SOLD me on the band.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 14 September 2003 22:02 (twenty years ago) link
Slanted And Enchanted: Fame ThrowaCrooked Rain, Crooked Rain: Hit The Plane DownWowee Zowee: Grave ArchitectureBrighten The Corners: We Are UnderusedTerror Twilight: hell if I can remember, probably "cream of gold" if it's the one I'm thinking of. There's one with this nagging stumbling fucked rhythm part. Hate it!
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 14 September 2003 22:34 (twenty years ago) link
Once I realized this lyric probably wasn't meant to be as nonsensical as it sounded, I grew to like it a lot.
― smoky topaz (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 14 September 2003 22:37 (twenty years ago) link
― smoky topaz (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 14 September 2003 22:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 14 September 2003 22:40 (twenty years ago) link
― David. (Cozen), Sunday, 14 September 2003 22:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 14 September 2003 22:48 (twenty years ago) link
― smoky topaz (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 14 September 2003 22:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 14 September 2003 22:50 (twenty years ago) link
― smoky topaz (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 14 September 2003 22:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 14 September 2003 22:54 (twenty years ago) link
― smoky topaz (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 14 September 2003 22:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Nick Mirov (nick), Sunday, 14 September 2003 23:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 14 September 2003 23:16 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 14 September 2003 23:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 14 September 2003 23:31 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 14 September 2003 23:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 15 September 2003 08:40 (twenty years ago) link
There are so many boring songs on Terror Twilight that I would have to sit through it again to figure out the titles and that's just too damn depressing.
― Kent Burt (lingereffect), Monday, 15 September 2003 12:32 (twenty years ago) link
Slanted+Enchanted: No really bad songs here.Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain: Either Hit the Plane Down or Fillmore JiveWowee Zowee: I can't remember the titles but there are several weak numbers on this one, mainly in the second halfBrighten the Corners: None of these are really terrible, but the singing on Passat Dream almost ruins it.Terror Twilight: Either Cream of Gold or Platform Blues.Stephen Malkmus: Probably Black Book.Pig Lib: Sheets
― o. nate (onate), Monday, 15 September 2003 13:20 (twenty years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Monday, 15 September 2003 13:25 (twenty years ago) link
(The answer is "Range Life.")
― Sam J. (samjeff), Monday, 15 September 2003 13:28 (twenty years ago) link
2. Range Life3. Range Life4. Range Life5. Probably some solo Malkmus thing
― Sam J. (samjeff), Monday, 15 September 2003 13:39 (twenty years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Monday, 15 September 2003 14:02 (twenty years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Monday, 15 September 2003 15:32 (twenty years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 15 September 2003 17:32 (twenty years ago) link
Then pick any 5 from Terror Twilight. I am with the camp that can't sit through this, much less remember any songs or titles.
Oh, I was the biggest Pavement fan on the planet once.
Am I the only one who thinks Pig Lib is a massive step forward from the self-titled solo record?
― southern lights (southern lights), Monday, 15 September 2003 20:26 (twenty years ago) link
― jack cole (jackcole), Monday, 15 September 2003 20:45 (twenty years ago) link
― daria g (daria g), Monday, 15 September 2003 21:42 (twenty years ago) link
― a, Monday, 15 September 2003 22:17 (twenty years ago) link
― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 04:08 (twenty years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 06:08 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 06:09 (twenty years ago) link
― samantha downey, Wednesday, 31 December 2003 18:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 18:58 (twenty years ago) link
"Major Leagues" is the worst Pavement album track jmho
― that whore of your grandfather's (rip van wanko), Friday, 13 May 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
you're killing me!
― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 May 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
"camera" is the best/worst pavement cover
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 13 May 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
you're killing me
the song? becaus that's not a bad vote either!
― that whore of your grandfather's (rip van wanko), Friday, 13 May 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
haha it was a joke
― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 May 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
I'm kind of curious what the point of Pavement is
― da croupier, Friday, 13 May 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
Of course, I'll be happy to share with you my least 5 favorite Pavements songs. No Westing, B-sides or anything from the deluxe reissues.
Type SlowlyHit The Plane DownSpeak, See, RememberPlatform BluesWe Are Underused
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 13 May 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
what fall album or track sounds most like conduit for sale (this is an rfi not a snarky rejoinder)?
no xmas for john quays
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 13 May 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link
i think it sounds more like "new face in hell"
― Michael B, Friday, 13 May 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
Hit The Plane DownDate With IkeaPassat DreamKennel DistrictMajor Leagues
― Trill Jockey (lpz), Friday, 13 May 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
you're right, mikehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eckzjxXvcQ4i guess i was thinking more "fame throwa"
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 13 May 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
lpz just wrote my 5 except i might replace major leagues with western homes. maybe. Ugh they both suck.
― Serial Chiller (sunny successor), Friday, 13 May 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
"hopscotch willie" x 5
― Nardil the Human MAOI (get bent), Friday, 13 May 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
I just don't like Shady Lane.
― billstevejim, Friday, 13 May 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
Neptune Avenue
― Beggar On A Beach Of Shite. (PaulTMA), Saturday, 14 May 2011 02:47 (twelve years ago) link
whichever one that has the line "never looked hard at a foetus in a jar"
― cuddles (the kid), Saturday, 14 May 2011 06:21 (twelve years ago) link
Saginaw is great! Malkmus impersonating/parodying Will Oldham.― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, February 27, 2007 9:52 AM (eleven years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The "liberaaaaals" vocal in Type Slowly is clearly a Will Oldham pastiche as well.
― wmlynch, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 01:59 (five years ago) link
?
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 02:57 (five years ago) link
"Fame Throwa"? Seriously? While "Chesley's Little Wrists" is a thing that exists? High school me is terribly upset by some 2003 posters.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 06:50 (five years ago) link
2003 posters generally think everything is shit and has gone to shit
― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 10:09 (five years ago) link
Here are my least-fave Malkmus-penned Pavement songs:Range LifeMy First MineShady LaneEmbassy RowAnn Don’t Cry
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 13:35 (five years ago) link
(Im not too familiar w/solo Malk; and including Spiral songs in a “worst-of” list doesn’t seem fair 😜)
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 13:37 (five years ago) link
worst SM Pavement song is Saganaw
― alpine static, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 04:06 (five years ago) link
Pacific Trim is all pretty good IMHO. There's a whole bunch of other B-sides from the second half of Pavement's discography I can't even bring myself to check now. Most tracks that aren't named 'Harness Your Hopes', probably. Any thoroughly researched PO5 of mine would surely be dominated by that stuff.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 04:39 (five years ago) link
Yeah I dig Pacific Trim... was just thinking the other day how cool it was when it came out, as kind of a chaser to Wowee Zowee. The songs on the EP are all unique and distinctive — fully realized, yet not really like any other songs in the band’s repertoire.
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 05:42 (five years ago) link
(I remember a guy in a class of mine declaring that Pacific Trim was “a mini Beatles album”... like he had discovered a skeleton key. I was like, OK...)
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 05:45 (five years ago) link
Embassy Row and Range Life are among my top favourite Pavement songs, morrisp
― Gâteau Superstar (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 09:41 (five years ago) link
I like those 2, but I hate Shady Lane and loads of people love that one.
― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 09:52 (five years ago) link
Shady Lane was my intro to them I think? I have a hard time listneing to it objectively
― Gâteau Superstar (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 11:04 (five years ago) link
This thread has inspired me to do a deep dive into the Pavement catalog. I was never all that into them.
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 11:12 (five years ago) link
Embassy Row and Range Life are among my top favourite Pavement songs, morrispYou must like that album, then! I’ve always liked it... I would probably skip those songs if I played it today, though.
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 13:38 (five years ago) link
they're on different albums though?
― Gâteau Superstar (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 13:57 (five years ago) link
Embassy Row is definitely a highlight on BTC. One of the only fast ones
― Gâteau Superstar (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 13:58 (five years ago) link
agreed ^^
and Range Life is a highlight on one of the best rock albums ever
― alpine static, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link
and i agree with everyone that Pacific Trim is good (including I Love Perth) EXCEPT Saganaw, which is a DIRGE
― alpine static, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link
xxpHaha, sorry — somehow I thought you said “Shady Lane”!
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link
“Saginaw” is a dirge, but dirges aren’t necessarily bad (and uptempo tracks aren’t necessarily good)...
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 16:26 (five years ago) link
Otm Some crazy fuck above mentioned Fillmore Jive. That's a dirge but it's beautiful.
Ok. Here's my challop I've never enjoyed Cut Your Hair. I always skip it on one my favourite albums.
― kraudive, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:49 (five years ago) link
you and every indie dude in the 90s lol. I go back and forth on it and right now I like it
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link
Whenever I ask Alexa to "play Pavement," it invariably starts off with their cover of the Descendents' "It's a Hectic World" -- which may be the least Pavement-sounding Pavement recording (and probably the last one I'd ever want to hear).
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:12 (five years ago) link
Xp sure yeah. But it was such a disappointment after Watery Domestic.
I did however fully embrace and still adore Stereo, which I guess was their nearest equivalent. And a great tune.
― kraudive, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:27 (five years ago) link
I guess this isn't that thread though.
Just Scott's songs right?
― kraudive, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link
revived because i was listening to btc for the first time in ages and i heard that line and it struck me immediately as a will oldham take. that said slowly typed is one of the worst ever pavement songs.
― wmlynch, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link
Shady Lane is p good but would be p great if second half was chopped off
― Minister of the Pillow (fionnland), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link
The spacey outro? That part's good!
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link
Listening to "TT" now (Godrich track order) -- I'm gonna take "Ann Don't Cry" off my list, and sub in "Major Leagues." I know this is really important stuff!
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 19 July 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link
For a long time I would have told you that "TT" is a weaker album than "BTC," but I now hold the opposite p.o.v. (also really important for you to know)
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 19 July 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link
yeah I think that's become the more accepted view & I agree
― k3vin k., Thursday, 19 July 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link
Gotta make another revision to my list above -- I realized that "Mercy: The Laundromat" is the track I dislike most at the end of Westing (...not "My First Mine").
the foregoing has been another quality thread revive by morrisp
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 23:27 (five years ago) link
Least favorite, eh? *cracks knuckles gamely*
― We’re Up All Night To Get Lochte (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 12 February 2021 22:28 (three years ago) link