Artists/bands that were once quite popular, yet nowadays are mostly ignored in canonical history books

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I have a record dealer acquaintance who made fucking bank unloading a ton of previously unwanted Jacko records on eBay right after he died. Several pieces going for $100+.

The day of, I saw copies of Thriller on eBay going for that much. Pretty fucking impressive considering it's the least rare record on the planet!!!

frogbs, Thursday, 13 August 2020 02:35 (three years ago) link

just wanna salute those Sund4r posts, delicious stuff, and I can't even decide if it's better if the textbooks are real or if it's all performance

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 13 August 2020 03:04 (three years ago) link

anyway my prediction is that the next "why the hell are they still so popular" band will be Van Halen

frogbs, Thursday, 13 August 2020 03:09 (three years ago) link

queen has 33 million monthly listeners on spotify, the beatles have 23 million, the rolling stones have 20 million, and led zeppelin has 14 million.

mozzy star (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 August 2020 04:11 (three years ago) link

How many do The Who have?

Washington Foosball Team (morrisp), Thursday, 13 August 2020 04:16 (three years ago) link

8 mil

mozzy star (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 August 2020 04:18 (three years ago) link

Omg
2xp

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Thursday, 13 August 2020 04:23 (three years ago) link

Queen’s #2 Spotify song is ‘Don’t Stop Me Now” at 885 million streams. I’m not familiar with that one.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 August 2020 10:50 (three years ago) link

really? seems like *such* a famous song. it was very memorably used in Shaun of the Dead.

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 13 August 2020 10:53 (three years ago) link

heard it in a hardware store two days ago.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 13 August 2020 11:01 (three years ago) link

It went to #86 in the US

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 August 2020 11:01 (three years ago) link

Its obviously popular now, but i dont remember it from the radio in the 80s

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 August 2020 11:03 (three years ago) link

I recall seeing it crop up a bunch on Idol/AGT/The Voice/Masked Singer type shows. It was also on SNL not long ago as, I think, a tedious Mike Pence-related parody.

Baba O'Reilly probably got a fair amount of its exposure from being a CSI opening theme.

vitreous humorist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 13 August 2020 11:15 (three years ago) link

..I think Queen's relevancy is kind of in their ubiquity, their songs appear everywhere. In terms of influence, it's not about looking to bands like The Darkness or artists like Mika so much as it is hearing how every rock musical ever written just sounds like Queen (or vice versa).

*ctrl+F meat loaf* oh that's nice, he's even ignored in the "ignored" thread what a relief

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 13 August 2020 12:12 (three years ago) link

speaking of rock musicals lol

mozzy star (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 August 2020 12:26 (three years ago) link

King Crimson have worked hard since coming back in 2013. The current lineup is probably the most adventurous thing they've ever done, and they reshape material quite radically onstage; it's not at all a "greatest hits"/"human jukebox" show (I mean, they never had any hits to begin with). They're effectively a new band with an old name. On the flip side, they've done a great job of reissuing their catalog: reasonably priced CD/DVD reissues for normal people and massive boxed sets, plus a seemingly endless archive of live recordings, for diehards. (I fall somewhere in between; I have the CD/DVD reissues of the first eight or nine albums — everything from the debut through Red — and several of the recent live releases, but none of the giant boxes.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 13 August 2020 12:30 (three years ago) link

what about jim steinman productions in general: bonnie tyler, meatloaf, sisters of mercy, celine dion - and then what? nope, no-one cares

Defund the indefensible (NickB), Thursday, 13 August 2020 12:32 (three years ago) link

total eclipse of the heart has had some legs, but everything else yeah.

i was recently floored by learning the level of success that guy had

mozzy star (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 August 2020 12:35 (three years ago) link

Queen’s #2 Spotify song is ‘Don’t Stop Me Now” at 885 million streams. I’m not familiar with that one.

― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, August 13, 2020 10:50 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

really? seems like *such* a famous song. it was very memorably used in Shaun of the Dead.

― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, August 13, 2020 10:53 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Put this down to the Transatlantic divide again. Basically Queen are now more popular than the Beatles in the UK, although, frankly, the Beatles have never been as insanely popular in the UK as they are in the US. That's even more true of Led Zeppelin.

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 August 2020 12:41 (three years ago) link

"Don't Stop Me Now" was relentlessly memed a couple years ago, it's easily the best known Queen song to my daughters' crowd.

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 13 August 2020 12:53 (three years ago) link

I just listened to it and am honestly not sure I've heard it before.

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Thursday, 13 August 2020 12:58 (three years ago) link

what about jim steinman productions in general: bonnie tyler, meatloaf, sisters of mercy, celine dion - and then what? nope, no-one cares

AIR SUPPLY

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Thursday, 13 August 2020 12:59 (three years ago) link

This Queen business didn't seem so weird when I could just put it down as another instance of the British being insane.

They're real books btw! Not hard to look up, I don't think. The thread is less interesting imo if it's just another ILM passage of time thread.

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:17 (three years ago) link

Baba O'Reilly probably got a fair amount of its exposure from being a CSI opening theme.

Surely it was the most famous Who song this side of the Atlantic even before that? I've been hearing it my whole life, although "Pinball Wizard" seemed to rival it when I was a kid and that one has dropped right off.

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:18 (three years ago) link

And actually isn't "Who Are You?" the CSI song anyway?

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:27 (three years ago) link

Feel like most or all of Who's Next got played on my classic rock stations back in the 70s and 80s in particular "Baba O'Reilly" and "Won't Get Fooled Again" but also "Behind Blue Eyes," which was a single as well. "I Can See For MIles" was their biggest hit single in the US so you would here that on all kinds of stations. You would also hear some of the early singles, but more often on kind of a college/alternative station with say a New Wave/British Invasion show or format. At least that's what my memory says, although I did look up the US chart position of "I Can See for Miles"."

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:29 (three years ago) link

when they used to do "greatest song of all time" countdowns on classic rock radio (maybe this is still a thing?) I recall "Baba O'Reilly" as the perennial challenger to "Stairway To Heaven"

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:33 (three years ago) link

Ugh, why did I copy the misspelling from the thread, It is "Baba O'Riley"

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link

and I'm blaming you!

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link

Heh, I was going to blame Sund4r, but he cut and pasted it as a quote from someone else.

My recollection is that "Won't Get Fooled Again" was always the highest Who song on those countdowns.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link

It was always "Stairway" on our station in the 80s and early to mid 90s. Then it started getting mixed up with "Hotel California", "Comfortably Numb", and "Baba".

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link

Ha, I noticed the spelling mistake but was going to be nice about it.

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:37 (three years ago) link

That's exactly what I figured ;)

I guess my recollection is faulty:
The 1987 WNEW-FM Top 1027 Songs of All Time Listener's Poll

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:38 (three years ago) link

Not by much though.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:38 (three years ago) link

It used to drive a young James Redd crazy as they got near the top ten, having to sit through all those epics. I knew I was in for a long night once they hit "Jungleland." I could dial down from WNEW-FM to WCBS-FM, listen to a couple of songs on Don K. Reed's Doo Wop shop, dial back up and the same song would still be playing!

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link

think i'm right in saying the who are mostly known for 'my generation' in the uk now, had never heard 'baba o'reilly' in my life until i bought the album a few years back

Defund the indefensible (NickB), Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link

Would have suggested ‘Won’t Get Fooled Again’ as the Who song most in the public consciousness , at least in the UK.

Dan Worsley, Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link

"Baba O'Reilly" enjoying a huge resurgence right now thanks to Joe Pera

frogbs, Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:52 (three years ago) link

Nah it's My Generation. Lots of their other songs are very well known in the UK but that one is basically in folk memory now.

Matt DC, Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:53 (three years ago) link

Forgot how much you would hear "Magic Bus." And don't recall ever hearing "How Many Friends."

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link

Interesting that "Comfortably Numb" is the third-highest Pink Floyd song on that list at 51. My sense has been for a long time that that song is for some reason bigger in Canada than anywhere else.

Looks like the last "top songs" list I can find for the local station is from 2015, when the top 3 were Baba O'Riley-Stairway-Comfortably Numb.

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Thursday, 13 August 2020 14:01 (three years ago) link

And actually isn't "Who Are You?" the CSI song anyway?

― magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:27 (forty-three minutes ago) link

was gonna respond and say that 'baba' is the theme song to csi: miami, but no, that's actually 'won't get fooled again.' 'baba' is the theme to csi ny, tho.

"Baba O'Reilly" enjoying a huge resurgence right now thanks to Joe Pera

― frogbs, Thursday, August 13, 2020 8:52 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

idk if there are enough pera-heads to cause a resurgence on their own, but that episode certainly did revive my love affair with that song

mozzy star (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 August 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link

I'm now looking at the playlist for Absolute Classic Rock and they now play Florence & The Machine and Keane. This is unacceptable.

Matt DC, Thursday, 13 August 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link

Interestingly, I can't find any "greatest songs" lists on the websites of the Ottawa or Toronto CR stations. They used to always feature them prominently. Maybe budo jeru is right that canonization itself is fading wrt rock; maybe a consequence of Bon Jovi and Stone Temple Pilots becoming heavy rotation on these?

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Thursday, 13 August 2020 14:20 (three years ago) link

Joe Pera is popular on ILX and right now this is kind of the only world i have

frogbs, Thursday, 13 August 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link

baba o'malley, imo

mozzy star (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 August 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link

Interestingly, I can't find any "greatest songs" lists on the websites of the Ottawa or Toronto CR stations. They used to always feature them prominently. Maybe budo jeru is right that canonization itself is fading wrt rock; maybe a consequence of Bon Jovi and Stone Temple Pilots becoming heavy rotation on these?

This is a good question. I tried to follow a link to such a list clemenza posted on the other thread but it is broken now.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 August 2020 14:39 (three years ago) link

I too have never heard "Don't Stop Me Now" until right now

So is pretty much every popular Queen song about, you know, winning and slaying and proving the haters wrong?

Little wonder this song is popular right now with the youngs, many of whom in my experience have a habit of likening every minor accomplishment to being a "rock star." Like life occurs during some endless Rocky training montage

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 13 August 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link

Teenage Jungleland

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 August 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link

Little wonder this song is popular right now with the youngs, many of whom in my experience have a habit of likening every minor accomplishment to being a "rock star." Like life occurs during some endless Rocky training montage

This way, good sir:

steve hoffman forums, C or D?

pomenitul, Thursday, 13 August 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link


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