― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Thursday, 7 September 2006 01:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― My Little Ruud Book (Ken L), Thursday, 7 September 2006 01:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― ryan (ryan), Thursday, 7 September 2006 01:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― mts (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 7 September 2006 02:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 7 September 2006 02:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 7 September 2006 02:29 (seventeen years ago) link
I will say, though, that I have a tendency to love things for what I think are purely ironic reasons. Like, I love Meatloaf. I'm not sure if it's because I love "Paradise by the Dashboard Lights" because it's a fucking incredible song, or because it's so cheesy and bombastic that I love it for how bad it is. I honestly don't know - I guess it's probably both. I don't know if that makes me less of a genuine music fan, to like something for how "bad" it is. "My Humps" gives me lots of joy, and I'm pretty sure I only like it because it's so fucking retarded. I'm gonna go with dancing like an idiot in the club over not having fun because I'm not actually "enjoying" the song, though.
― Emily B (Emily B), Thursday, 7 September 2006 02:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Emily B (Emily B), Thursday, 7 September 2006 02:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 7 September 2006 02:36 (seventeen years ago) link
in theory I'm a reasonable man. I believe there's no fundamental, objective difference in quality between, say, paris hilton and stravinsky - it all depends on the criteria you use to assess a piece of work.
but beneath the surface I'm a complete snob and I hate pop music. I find grown men obsessing over teeny music such as kelly clarkson or timberlake highly disturbing. I have an instinctively averse reaction to jauntiness. I am disgusted by synchronised dancing. I don't see catchiness as a virtue; quite the opposite. deep down, I suspect that the current vogue among adults for children's music designed by marketing departmetns is a passing hipster fad. please forgive me.
but at the same time I'm a hypocrite. I like a fair amount of adolescent metal. like I said, please forgive me.
I'm bored by repetitive beats and value complexity. therefore dance music and hip hop are closed worlds to me. I have tried, but I have found nothing of worth there. I fear this is an omission, but it's not one I care about. this makes me feel guilty.
I love jazz, noise, heavy prog, hardcore punk, japanese oddities, various 'world' musics and far-out experimental weirdness. I consider pushing the envelope to be a virtue in and of itself. forgive, etc.
I hate so many canonical 'icons' that I wonder whether I hate them simply because they're icons and I'm a contrary git...bowie, dylan, neil young, the stones, the pistols, the clash, madonna, pink floyd, etc, etc. then I wonder if I'm a boring old fart because I like the beatles, the doors and tim buckley. hypocrite. confused hypocrite.
I care far too much about music and nowhere near enough about anything else.
― guanoman (mister the guanoman), Thursday, 7 September 2006 07:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 7 September 2006 09:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― zeus (zeus), Thursday, 7 September 2006 09:58 (seventeen years ago) link
YEh, that sums me up pretty much.
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Thursday, 7 September 2006 10:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 7 September 2006 10:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― 20th century boy (lovebug starski), Thursday, 7 September 2006 10:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 7 September 2006 10:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― ledge (ledge), Thursday, 7 September 2006 10:27 (seventeen years ago) link
online, from the states, but just abt politics mostly
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Thursday, 7 September 2006 10:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 7 September 2006 10:31 (seventeen years ago) link
After 30 years of being into music (on and off), you start to see how inbred rock's family tree is; I've liked Thee Hydrogen Terrors, Tight Bros, Magik Markers, Deerhoof, and assorted freakyfolky stuff in recent years, but it's always with a "been there, heard that" attitude that precludes me from searching further or being long-term excited about it.
As a long-time lurker here, I've been most often amused by threads about music I don't particularly like, e.g. the one-namedprefab divas (they're all Little Eva With Attitude, aren't they?) with designer beats and industrial-strength marketing. They all sound much the same to me. While the practices of Phil Spector and Berry Gordy could have been called "assembly line" long ago, they seem more like outsider art compared to today's music-industry Henry Fords. You can have your Model T in any color you like, as long as it's a hue of Timbaland or Storch.
(I do, however, like Justin, in small doses.)
I'm also tickled at how music marketed to teens and tweens, who don't have rivers of pop history running through their heads (i.e. the ideal consumer), is inexplicablyoveranalysed by middle-aged individuals who can't seem to let go of the shiny-shiny products of the entertainment-industrial complex — for fear of not being "with it", perhaps. Is it a "life gives you lemons" thing for xhuxk and Kogan? Here's a clue folks: Paul Anka is better in 2006 than he was in 1957. Which isn't saying much, actually.
NP: a whole bunch of Herbie Nichols, on WKCR.
― mark 0 (mark 0), Thursday, 7 September 2006 10:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 7 September 2006 10:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 7 September 2006 10:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 7 September 2006 11:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 7 September 2006 11:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― mark 0 (mark 0), Thursday, 7 September 2006 11:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― stop moving. (cis), Thursday, 7 September 2006 12:15 (seventeen years ago) link
I have little interest in classical or opera or lots of other things.
I tried Beefheart once and frankly could not be arsed.
For all my talk of "listening properly" I still don't find enough time between other things to do enough of that to not feel guilty, and so do rely on the iPod and the commute. Although I still have better headphones than most.
I could carry on for ages.
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 7 September 2006 12:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 7 September 2006 12:41 (seventeen years ago) link
The thought of the new Beyonce or Justin album fills me with instant ennui (and dig my CoM cheerleading for both back in the 2003 day).
Whereas I'm looking forward to the new M Ward, the new Bonnie Prince Billy, and *whisper it* the new Junior Boys.
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 7 September 2006 12:52 (seventeen years ago) link
but so is the new justin!
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― just say no to individuality (fandango), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:06 (seventeen years ago) link
"I get much more out of Lambchop or Wilco than..."
jesus, you guys really have given up. should we take you out behind the barn and shoot you?
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:09 (seventeen years ago) link
You stupid fucking idiot.
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:12 (seventeen years ago) link
xpost
― mark 0 (mark 0), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:17 (seventeen years ago) link
My tastes appear to be going in exactly the opposite direction from yours, Sick Mouthy!
― except she got a little more ass (cis), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:21 (seventeen years ago) link
Speaking of jesus, here's my confession: To a much greater extent than I would like to admit, my tastes are influenced by the "praise and worship" music I heard at my parents' church between the ages of 8 and 16.
I wish there were a better reason why I prefer the beautiful/epic over the gritty/urban, but I suspect that most of the reasons I've come up with are largely a cover-up...
― jackl (jackl), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:30 (seventeen years ago) link