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'everything must go' is awesome.

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

go find "live at the record plant" or "live 74" and hear the countdown band tear shit up. so good.

everything must go is awesome.

― dan (dan), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

everything must go is great!

in order of necessity:
the nightfly
two against nature
kamakiriad
11 tracks of whack
alive in america

the first three are definitely worth a special order. '11 tracks of whack' is an odd one, and has a few duds, but the good songs (esp. 'junkie girl') make it worth hearing, i think.

― derrick (derrick), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

find the live on pbs show too!!! nu-dan kickin ass!

― chaki (chaki), Thursday, 10 August 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

The Caves Of Altimira - nothing can live with it.

SD can't rock out? Check the Navasota album from 72 - ft. Becker & Fagen writing, arranging and playing on a biker band type stomper.

Sterile? Home At Last, Pixeleen, Almost Gothic... check their appearence on Thomas Jefferson Kaye 'First Grade' from '74 their song - American Lovers... a beaut'.

Best band ever.

― Kirk Degiorgio (Kirk), Friday, 25 August 2006 01:06 (nineteen years ago)

Welcome to the fold, brother.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Friday, 25 August 2006 01:09 (nineteen years ago)

good to be here.. (i think)

― Kirk Degiorgio (Kirk), Friday, 25 August 2006 01:10 (nineteen years ago)

haha

― you want pastrami? (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 25 August 2006 01:18 (nineteen years ago)

hehe

― Kirk Degiorgio (Kirk), Friday, 25 August 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

heyhey

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 25 August 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

it will end in carnage no doubt

― Kirk Degiorgio (Kirk), Friday, 25 August 2006 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

I've barely heard any Steely D...but this is clearly one of the greatest threads (if not the greatest) in the entire history of ILM.

Reelin' In The Years and Blackjack are good songs, or at least they were 6 years ago when I last heard them. Place to start, anyone?

― Scourage (Haberdager), Friday, 25 August 2006 01:34 (nineteen years ago)

the greatest thread for the greatest band...

by Blackjack I presume you mean Do It Again... those 2 are from the 1st album so why not go at them chronologically.

― Kirk Degiorgio (Kirk), Friday, 25 August 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

I do mean Do It Again, stupid, stupid, stupid :(...the album I heard also had Rikki Don't Lose That Number, Hey 19 and a coupla others I forget the names of. If you were to recommend one to really grab me by the cojones, which would you choose, though?

― Scourage (Haberdager), Friday, 25 August 2006 01:42 (nineteen years ago)

that must be a greatest hits as they are from different era's...

can't single one out - get them all.

― Kirk Degiorgio (Kirk), Friday, 25 August 2006 01:48 (nineteen years ago)

get pretzel logic

― a little knowledge can go a long way (lfam2), Friday, 25 August 2006 01:54 (nineteen years ago)

Pretzel Logic is the one that grabbed me as well, as I trawled their discography on Allmusic just now.

Once upon a time I looked for length in albums; I wanted them to be as long as possible so that any ideas the band had could be exploited to the maximum. I begged for songs to exceed the 7-minute mark (still do, in many ways), and I couldn't stand needless brevity.

More recently, however, I've realised that this isn't always what makes a truly great album; in fact, the skill required in creating something under 45 minutes long that still exploits those ideas fully is a far more impressive skill than sprawling them out into 75-minute extravaganzas. This is why Rock Action is Mogwai's best album, this is why Talk Talk's last two records pack such a punch.

Hopefully, Pretzel Logic will be a bit like that.

― Scourage (Haberdager), Friday, 25 August 2006 02:06 (nineteen years ago)

What? Aja is the best place to start.

― def zep (calstars), Friday, 25 August 2006 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

What? Get Katy Lied.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Friday, 25 August 2006 02:23 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, yeah, Katy Lied is also pretty concise. I'll get whichever one HMV has in stock. ;-)

― Scourage (Haberdager), Friday, 25 August 2006 02:27 (nineteen years ago)

Black Friday + Bad Sneakers + Doctor Wu = WIN

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Friday, 25 August 2006 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

i mean, they're all good, but i think that the horace silver tune that starts rikki don't lose that number makes such a good beginning.

― a little knowledge can go a long way (lfam2), Friday, 25 August 2006 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

good enough to hear it first!

― a little knowledge can go a long way (lfam2), Friday, 25 August 2006 04:01 (nineteen years ago)

basically any of their first four records will be a good place to start, and if you like it, you should immediately go out and get the other three.

then get the rest of em.

― the eunuchs, Cassim and Mustafa, who guarded Abdur Ali's harem (orion), Friday, 25 August 2006 04:04 (nineteen years ago)

countdown to ecstasy
pretzel logic
katy lied
aja
gaucho
the royal scam
can't buy a thrill

get those first

― gear (gear), Friday, 25 August 2006 05:17 (nineteen years ago)

Another fine SD thread:
Why do people rag on Steely Dan's "Gaucho" so much?

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 25 August 2006 05:27 (nineteen years ago)

As much as I love Pretzel Logic and think that "Barrytown" (lyrics, music, everything) is phenomenal, I swear that "I can see by what you carry that you come from Barrytown" could have been even better if Fagen had written carry ROUND. The description way upthread about how the lyrics match the music, etc. is perfect, which is why I think my suggestion would make "Barrytown" just a little bit better. Or maybe I'm an asshole. To avoid any wrath, I do think SD are one of the best bands, ever. And I didn't go see them in Hartford tonight. Grrr. Funny that Michael McDonald is now opening for them, no?

― Adam Harrison-Friday (AdamFriday), Friday, 25 August 2006 05:34 (nineteen years ago)

Gaucho was one of the two first albums I bought with my own money. The other one was Spyro Gyra Catching the Sun. I must have been about 12, and I was taking recomendations from my uncle, Mr. Smooth.

― always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Friday, 25 August 2006 05:51 (nineteen years ago)

Black Friday + Bad Sneakers + Doctor Wu = WIN
-- Marmot (marmotwolo...), August 25th, 2006.

OTM (and "Any World That I'm Welcome To" is a great one too)

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Friday, 25 August 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

In the new issue of WWE magazine, heavyweight champion King Booker admits to being a fan of the "Dan".

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 25 August 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

I swear that "I can see by what you carry that you come from Barrytown" could have been even better if Fagen had written carry ROUND.

that would totally fuck up the phrasing and how the words flow against the chord change, IMO....plus that's almost too much of a rapper-type rhyme, like Eminem would or something.

― M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 25 August 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a big "Charley Freak" fan! it's almost gothic.

― M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 25 August 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

In the new issue of WWE magazine, heavyweight champion King Booker admits to being a fan of the "Dan".

[Insert "The Royal Scam" joke here]

― nate p. (natepatrin), Friday, 25 August 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

NO PLAN BUT THE DAN

― trees (treesessplode), Friday, 25 August 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

countdown to ecstasy

is the best one

― o. nate (onate), Friday, 25 August 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

ps they are all good

― a little knowledge can go a long way (lfam2), Friday, 25 August 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

revive

― gear (gear), Saturday, 2 September 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

please dont.

― chaki (chaki), Saturday, 2 September 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

I really like "Fire In the Hole."

― Sundar (sundar), Saturday, 2 September 2006 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

We must know which Dan album Louis Jagger bought.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Saturday, 2 September 2006 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

NO WE MUST NOT

― chaki (chaki), Saturday, 2 September 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

WE MUST

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Saturday, 2 September 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.mymusic.com/covers/170p/100250/100252754.jpg

― gear (gear), Saturday, 2 September 2006 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

Jeez. I think this thread is like a bastion of sanity sometimes.

― nate p. (natepatrin), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha!! oh man.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

I've often wondered if Danielle Steel's friends ever call her "Dan Steely"

I've also often wondered why EVERYONE IN MY GENERATION IS AN IDIOT JESUS FUCK PEOPLE GET ONE (1) SENSE OF HUMOR

(directed at the AV Club commmenters, obv)

― bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

We must know which Dan album Louis Jagger bought.

-- Marmot (marmotwolo...), September 2nd, 2006.

TO ANSWER UR QUESTION, I JUST BOUGHT 'PRETZEL LOGIC'

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Thursday, 26 October 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

now go out and buy the rest!

― gear (gear), Thursday, 26 October 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

turn off your computer, take a leisurely stroll to the record store, spend a day listening to them with no distractions. no computer, no phone, nothing. just music.

― gear (gear), Thursday, 26 October 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

record store is closed, funds are limited, and dinner-time is nigh. Shall bear your advice in mind, however.

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Thursday, 26 October 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

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