How does his version of “Freight Train” stack up next to Elizabeth Cotten’s?
― If I were a POLL I’d be Zinging (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 June 2019 15:08 (five years ago) link
Haha
― Duke, Sunday, 23 June 2019 15:09 (five years ago) link
elizabeth cotten's freight train has this prescient and very human sensitivity in lyric and performance that is all the more heartbreaking knowing she wrote it when she was 13. the videos of her performing it as an elderly woman with the crowd joining in to sing bring me close to tears just thinking about them. batio though has a four necked guitar that he spins and he taps out bitchin licks though. tie
― global tetrahedron, Sunday, 23 June 2019 17:50 (five years ago) link
Otm
― If I were a POLL I’d be Zinging (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 June 2019 17:56 (five years ago) link
B-b-but what about their respective versions of “Shake Sugaree”?
― If I were a POLL I’d be Zinging (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 June 2019 17:57 (five years ago) link
I get it too Eddie. But part of being a total musician is embracing all music and diving down the musical rabbit holes. I’ve listened to BB King to EVH to Frank Sinatra and back. I was 17 too but I knew Ron Wood played bass with the Jeff Beck Group. https://t.co/bSD1NshzWg— Joe Bonamassa (Official) (@JBONAMASSA) December 3, 2019
― ☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:27 (four years ago) link
I bet he knew "I've Got My Own Album to Do" back-to-front at 17 too.
― 'Skills' Wallace (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:30 (four years ago) link
pls to post on this, ilx's premier dedicated joe bonamassa fan thread
OFFICAL ILX JOE BONAMASSA CELEBRATION THREAD
― A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:31 (four years ago) link
Oh thanks, I forgot that that glorious tribute existed.
― ☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link
Been listening to Plini a lot lately, who I gather is one of these guys for the 2010s. Just these epic proggy fusion shredfests with a basis in math-rock and post-rock and are really well-composed (i.e. I rarely feel like my interest is waning).
To be honest, I haven't actually listened to a lot of the guitarists listed in this thread, so maybe this is more my thing than I have previously thought. For example as a kid I know that I liked Steve Vai with David Lee Roth, but got bored pretty quickly when I listened to Passion & Warfare. I probably should go back and relisten so I can figure out if I need to buy a headless fanned-fret guitar or something pointy with a floyd rose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvN7Af40Wi4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aquJicmrjJE
― peace, man, Saturday, 9 May 2020 21:08 (four years ago) link
Steve Vai — "Teeth of the Hydra" (2022)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46qjDJ0lLdE
Didn't know where else to post, but needs to be documented because that is some ridiculous nonsense. Just, what?!
― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 01:58 (two years ago) link
:D
― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 02:26 (two years ago) link
Lol that popped up on my YouTube feed the other day. Have you seen the bad deepfake Satriani cover?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13c0WULP1Ik
― calstars, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 02:28 (two years ago) link
Disappointed in the lack of flames shooting out from behind Vai in that video.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 02:32 (two years ago) link
I feel like Tosin Abasi is one of the contemporary equivalents of these guys - monstrous guitarist, but I cannot bring myself to listen to his music
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 02:39 (two years ago) link
Is it okay for me to laugh uncontrollably at, like, all of these guys?
I mean they're obviously really good, but c'mon.
― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 02:48 (two years ago) link
Oh man, in the Vai video, 4:33 in ( when there could be silence…) he does this little sitar fill on the fretless part of the top neck… actual LoL. Wonder if he can bang out the Third Man theme on the zither part?
― bendy, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 04:04 (two years ago) link
Hard to imagine a more Steve vai video
― jammin on the dud (Spottie), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 04:17 (two years ago) link
Yeah, shred v much alive and well. Guthrie Govan is my younger cousin's fave.
Sarah Longfield is by far my favourite artist connected to the contemporary YouTube shred scene. She's a multi-instrumentalist/composer from Wisconsin who integrates two-handed 8-string tapping into pretty electro-prog songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL5q_MEg3RQ
― And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 12:52 (two years ago) link
The Vai thing is cool tbh. More like Jeff Beck than Yngwie.
Austin is correct. You can kinda admire the craft but there is no fuckin way I will like sit down and LISTEN to this as if it were music.
Any more than I would, like, watch Olympic pole vaulting. Yes, you're skilled. Good for you.
But no, I don't care about this activity, so I won't spend my limited leisure time consuming recordings of it.
Would 100% prefer to hear the Eagles or Billy Joel or Phil Collins or whatever, for the thousandth time, than check out an allegedly "amazing" guitar player who is very skilled but who has yet to elicit emotions from someone other than guitar nerds, thxbye
― So's your imam (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 15:50 (two years ago) link
I mean, call me back if Steve Vai puts on a cute little pair of shorts and starts flying through the air.
― peace, man, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 15:56 (two years ago) link
Oh cool Sund4r, I haven't watched any of her stuff but I think she lives in my town and is friends with some friends.
Re: Vai, he's not even triggering the drum parts with his feet, lame.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 16:11 (two years ago) link
I feel like Tosin Abasi is one of the contemporary equivalents of these guys - monstrous guitarist, but I cannot bring myself to listen to his music― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, April 5, 2022 9:39 PM (two days ago)
A few years ago, I went to see Buke & Gase at a venue in Minneapolis called the Skyway, and one of the opening acts was Animals As Leaders (who I got really into after seeing live). After the show, my first thought was “This was a show totally curated for this very thread! Too bad we no longer have the music media landscape of the 90s.”
I’m imagining Guitar World giving us a 2-page photo essay featuring the Aron(e)’s titular buke and gase, with Wolf Marshall explaining how he had to invent the nomenclature to describe the transcription of the 'gase' part for “No Land”; then after a brief article by whomever would function as today's version of John Petrucci (I dont know, maybe HH Hendrix from Liturgy?), we’d find a double-interview feature where Deafheaven's Kerry McCoy and H.E.R. get all anarchic with Animals as Leaders’ string-savants* Tosin and Javier Reyes. *Actual term used in a review of a Dream Theater album!
― Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Friday, 8 April 2022 00:14 (two years ago) link
https://www.guitarworld.com/tag/tosin-abasi
https://www.guitarworld.com/author/tosin-abasi
― And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Friday, 8 April 2022 00:32 (two years ago) link
The way you know a wanky shredder has made it these days is that they have their own NeuralDSP guitar modeling plugin
https://neuraldsp.com/plugins/archetype-abasihttps://neuraldsp.com/plugins/archetype-plini
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 8 April 2022 00:35 (two years ago) link
https://www.guitarworld.com/tag/tosin-abasihttps://www.guitarworld.com/author/tosin-abasi― And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Thursday, April 7, 2022 7:32 PM (one hour ago)
― And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Thursday, April 7, 2022 7:32 PM (one hour ago)
HOLY APEIROPHOBIA!
― Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Friday, 8 April 2022 01:44 (two years ago) link
― And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Wednesday, April 6, 2022 1:52 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
i legit enjoyed the vai video haha, it is pretty cool! i know nothing about guitarists or shred but i mean it's just so baroque in its dweebiness, and vai is 61 years old!!!! what's not to love lol.
― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Friday, 8 April 2022 02:17 (two years ago) link
i guess that guitar must miraculously not be that heavy because otherwise i'm not sure how his back could handle it
― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Friday, 8 April 2022 02:19 (two years ago) link
and vai is 61 years old!!!! what's not to love lol.― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, April 7, 2022 7:17 PM
― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, April 7, 2022 7:17 PM
HE DOES JAZZ HANDS MULTIPLE TIMES
― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Friday, 8 April 2022 02:28 (two years ago) link
Yeah if these guys are gonna do this stuff they might as well lean into the ridiculousness and make it fun, not that's it's gonna, y'know, sound any better
Occasionally if I go down a bit of a gearhead wormhole on youtube I start getting recommendations for this Ichika Nito/Tim Henson type shit which is I guess the millennial evolution of this stuff, lots of clever harmonics and insanely skilful jumping around the fretboard, but also completely joyless and pedantic
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 8 April 2022 17:15 (two years ago) link
lean into the ridiculousness and make it fun
Unfortunately, for many technically-skilled musicians this translates as "ape Zappa".
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 8 April 2022 17:32 (two years ago) link
Animals as Leaders is totally Dream Theater for the youtube generation, I hate it
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 8 April 2022 17:42 (two years ago) link
its unlistenable
― jammin on the dud (Spottie), Friday, 8 April 2022 17:45 (two years ago) link
Anyone else think Vai looks kinda like Corey Feldman in that clip?
― peace, man, Friday, 8 April 2022 17:50 (two years ago) link
I tried listening to a bunch of these albums. Honestly I would like a lot of them if the drums sounded better. I really wanted this one to be good:https://i.discogs.com/u_oRG-VzAZvbBDLLAtnJaWbLazRtojbrG6odVYroUQ4/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTE3MjEy/ODYtMTQ2NzEyMzIw/My05MzQxLmpwZWc.jpeg
― brimstead, Friday, 8 April 2022 18:03 (two years ago) link
I remember that one, damn
― calstars, Friday, 8 April 2022 18:46 (two years ago) link
They would have way more strings now
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 8 April 2022 18:49 (two years ago) link
Yeah, my friend's family's record store stocked that one when I was in high school.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 8 April 2022 20:18 (two years ago) link
Their second one sounds marginally better. I loved that all that Shrapnel records stuff in the nineties when I was fifteen and a young aspiring metal guitar player. Anyone remember Greg Howe? He went the fusion way and is still pretty active. His album Tilt, which he made with Ritchie Kotzen who by then was also trying to get away from just shredding, features some insane soloing if you're into the ten thousand notes per second thing - which I kind of still am.
One lesser talked about but also very revered in shred guitar circles is the album Truth in Shredding by Frank Gambale, Brett Garsed and Shawn Lane (the most shreddy of all shredders).
I know way too much about this stuff.
― Marty8501 (Marty Innerlogic), Saturday, 9 April 2022 15:03 (two years ago) link
The "lean into it and make it fun" schtick can descend into bacon territory pretty quickly, although I have a soft spot for Batio.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 9 April 2022 16:02 (two years ago) link
Speaking of Kotzen, I was just checking out The Winery Dogs, which is his trio with Billy Sheehan and Mike Portnoy. The downsides are the godawful band name, the trips into blues-rock territory. Kotzen's vocals - which waver between budget Chris Cornell and Sammy Hagar - could be better sometimes, could be worse. But I think their hard rock numbers are pretty fun, and use their combined virtuosities to complement the songs. Serviceable hard rock with pyrotechnics for flavor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SoTgZjokLU
― peace, man, Saturday, 9 April 2022 16:03 (two years ago) link
lol at the slow mo shred shot at 1:37.
honestly i enjoy that song more than anything on the last mastodon album lol
― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Saturday, 9 April 2022 21:49 (two years ago) link
dat bass face @ 1:21
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 9 April 2022 22:36 (two years ago) link
haha wow, you're not kidding re: cornell aping.
that is like, recognizable as a song though. it has parts and a melody and generally makes sense.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 April 2022 00:30 (two years ago) link
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51CdjpPYIFL._UXNaN_FMjpg_QL85_.jpg
― brimstead, Monday, 15 April 2024 18:09 (five months ago) link
Next level
― calstars, Monday, 15 April 2024 19:20 (five months ago) link
"Can you show me on the doll where rock touched you?"
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 12:03 (five months ago) link
kinda love this yngwie fender videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj5FDmQ1Qfwlove that he has a collection of m/l the exact same guitar
― I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 23:28 (three months ago) link
I thing Ygngwie's passion for his whole deal is sometimes misread as condescension when he's just geeked. he's also legendarily hard to deal with but I love to hear him talk shop and yes "here's my strat collection. you have to be a fiend to tell them apart" is amazing and when he talks about his sound at the end...that rules
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 23:52 (three months ago) link