what one artist do you like the most that ilm doesn't seem to rate at all

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The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 5 April 2018 10:13 (eight years ago)

A lot of Danish artists would probably fit here more through obscurity than reputation, as imago says. The two that springs to mind that I would be hard-pressed to defend, even if people began listening to them, are probably Kliché and Tiger Tunes. This meant so much to me fifteen years ago, probably hard to explain what a revelation it was in a Danish context:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpXeelIlVBs

Frederik B, Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:09 (eight years ago)

anybody here besides Stormy Davis ride for mid-late 70s Jeff Beck?

I love Blow by Blow. I might be alone in even liking some 21st century Jeff Beck, though.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:16 (eight years ago)

Kim Wilde's debut is indeed wonderful!

No energy, only great chaos (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:19 (eight years ago)

i don't know who frank turner is but i guess its good to know to keep my distance if i ever encounter him.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:31 (eight years ago)

here we go scott, enter at your peril Rockist Git Frank Turner and the horror of the live version of "I Still Believe"

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:34 (eight years ago)

Most of the names that spring to mind suffer from obscurity rather than ill-repute (basically what imago said).

In other words, a list of stuff ILM loathes would come in handy. Seriously, what are the most hated bands/musicians on this board? Are there any?

pomenitul, Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:45 (eight years ago)

depends on the era of ilx.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:48 (eight years ago)

curmudgeon is the king of this: Chitlin Circuit Double-entendre -filled Soul 2004 (and onward) Theodis Ealey's "Stand Up In It" is a song of the year

not quite as cool as seeing damo's wang but (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:49 (eight years ago)

my version of this is probably dire straits/mark knopfler

not quite as cool as seeing damo's wang but (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:51 (eight years ago)

depends on the era of ilx.

Fair point. Early ILX seemed more vocal about its dislikes, but I'm ultimately more curious about 2010s ILX.

pomenitul, Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:52 (eight years ago)

Feel like this more of a "post your guilty pleasure" response but I'm a fan of both EMF (mostly just Schubert Dip) and Ned's Atomic Dustin (at least that first record, and the last, not so much the middling middle one)

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:57 (eight years ago)

i always laugh a little when people try and tell me that EARLY emf was great and nothing like their unbelievable stuff. i don't know why i think its funny. just thought of early-EMF is funny. like there are discrete eras of emf.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:59 (eight years ago)

i mean i guess if it sounded like rough trade era scritti politti or something.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:01 (eight years ago)

The artist who gets the most hate on ILM has to be Megan Trainor surely.

I thought 'No' was pretty good, though would have been better with another singer probably.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:01 (eight years ago)

not enough people hate the smashing pumpkins here. that much i know.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:02 (eight years ago)

I don't really have an opinion on their other albums tbh. I kinda just moved onto weirder music after that, but maintained a connection to that album (which I listened to on my walkman for 18 hours straight on a trip to sweden)

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:02 (eight years ago)

This obit for the EMF bassist is def funny, esp:

Apart from his basslines, Foley was known for his party trick of putting what some claimed was a grapefruit, and others a lime, under his foreskin, and for partying. He was no stranger to drugs.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1380899/Zac-Foley.html

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:03 (eight years ago)

EMF that is

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:03 (eight years ago)

Even Dennis Potter never imagined a "character" like Zac Foley!

calzino, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:06 (eight years ago)

I haven't played my copy of Schubert Dip in 20 + years, and now I don't think I'll ever be able to put it on again and not be reduced to gales of laughter. xxp

No energy, only great chaos (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:16 (eight years ago)

Ppl here hate Megan Trainor? I wouldn’t choose to actively listen to her songs, but I’ve never heard one I didn’t like.

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:16 (eight years ago)

She is a mainstay of the worst music threads.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:21 (eight years ago)

I rate Megan Trainor over Amy Winehouse, haha (R.I.P. and all that)

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:21 (eight years ago)

now that is more like it

imago, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:23 (eight years ago)

Killing Joke, of course. KIDDING!!!!

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:24 (eight years ago)

Amy Winehouse at Bestival 2009 is absolutely one of the worst gigs I've ever been to. But obviously she was much better than that a couple of years earlier.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:24 (eight years ago)

tbh if you attend Bestival you get what you deserve

imago, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:26 (eight years ago)

true alex in nyc answer: belfegore

scott seward, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:26 (eight years ago)

xp 2009 was the year it rained and they were completely unprepared for it. Two stages sank and you had to wade to get between the other ones. We still hilariously refer to it as "Worstival"

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:27 (eight years ago)

In other words, a list of stuff ILM loathes would come in handy. Seriously, what are the most hated bands/musicians on this board? Are there any?

any public expression of art-loathing, even the most necessary and self-evident, seems to arrive on the ears of the attending boobery as an invitation to "actually" back. collective loathing, by extension, is basically a job posting: rehabilitators wanted, there's probably a book in it. given this mechanism, strenuous trumpetings of aesthetic distaste become a kind of sisyphean make-work, suited only to incurable windbags (shush) and desperate masochists (granted).

happily, the ILM of the late 2010s seems to understand that studied indifference pays better long-term dividends.

not quite as cool as seeing damo's wang but (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:35 (eight years ago)

i think "studied indifference" might actually be "i am so tired of talking about this shit on the internet" in some cases.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:39 (eight years ago)

Great stuff in that Foley obit

Their raucous blend of pop, rap, rock and dance was brash, exciting and unpredictable. They had a knack for writing songs that lodged like catchphrases, as in the chorus: The things, you say/Your purple prose just gives you away/ The things you say/You're unbur-lee-vable.

Young, lively, fashionable and good-looking, EMF seemed almost too perfect, and when they first appeared, unfounded rumours spread that they had been manufactured by a sharp-eyed Svengali as a rebellious version of New Kids on the Block.

omar little, Thursday, 5 April 2018 15:54 (eight years ago)

Wow there are only two James-related threads, both half-grown, I'm shocked

nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:17 (eight years ago)

Ha, I started a poll comparing versions of "Laid" once.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:20 (eight years ago)

Inspired by Jordan’s revive - Melody’s echo
Chamber

Eris (Ross), Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:39 (eight years ago)

Frank Zappa, though the needle swings drunkenly between like and dislike here.

WilliamC, Thursday, 5 April 2018 16:52 (eight years ago)

I still consider myself a Zappa fan, although there are many caveats attached.

I'm going to suggest Southern Culture on the Skids, whose ilm thread hasn't been bumped since 2005. I listen to them regularly, and I'm even roadtripping to see them next month for my birthday.

No energy, only great chaos (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 17:29 (eight years ago)

Zappa seems like a real "love him or hate him" artist? (and maybe the same person will oscillate btw. those poles at different times.)

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Thursday, 5 April 2018 17:37 (eight years ago)

Re: Deke Dickersen, Southern Culture on the Skids

I haven't bumped this stuff much since 2005 myself, but it's still beloved. Garage rock motoriks along, with nary a development from the rockabilly side of the sound. I expect it will come eventually, but I miss it. Dex Romweber from Flat Duo Jets continues to do his thing, sometimes with great results. Flat Duo Jets and Rev Horton Heat's 90s records remain all time favorites for me.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Thursday, 5 April 2018 18:14 (eight years ago)

yeah anything garage rock-related that comes from the more revival era as opposed to the original era is not really heavily discussed or beloved around here. i think probably the most liked is stuff that's Oblivians related, or White Stripes and that sort of thing (though they definitely got away from being a strict garage band pretty early.)

omar little, Thursday, 5 April 2018 18:22 (eight years ago)

Emily Wells

... (Eazy), Thursday, 5 April 2018 19:37 (eight years ago)

there are probably tons of blues people who don't have threads or who have threads with 10 or less posts.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 April 2018 20:00 (eight years ago)

been offline for a few days, so here is a catch up :

I still rate the first Gay Dad album pretty highly. I doubt they have many other fans on here.

umm hello.
pretty sure i have been vocal re my love.
i even have the second album.
both are bloody brilliant glam/pop albums.

U2, obviously!

not obviously.

danny wilson

only have their debut on cassette so not heard it in over 20 years, but at the time, i thought it was just wonderful.
their gig i saw with The Christians was rather special.


but one artist I really do like that no one here really cares about is Datarock

only ever got their debut due to label/band inaction, but damn, its a cracking album.
fills the need for a second CLOR album basically.

...doves ...
all albums by this band still make my heart swell.
after years of not getting them, i saw them live and all became clear.

my all too obvious entry into this club : BRMC.
no matter how generic/mono-groove they are, they still hit the spot for me and me alone.

mark e, Thursday, 5 April 2018 20:16 (eight years ago)

Lonely Obsessions, Lost Causes... stuff you like and no one else does.

sleeve, Thursday, 5 April 2018 20:19 (eight years ago)

indeed.

and still stand alone re grand mal.

mark e, Thursday, 5 April 2018 20:23 (eight years ago)

"and i still .. "

mark e, Thursday, 5 April 2018 20:24 (eight years ago)

there probably isn't a single soul that rates The Mirror on ILM. i'm pretty sure its my favorite Spooky Tooth album. Mike Patto's last stab at greatness. Way better than the Boxer albums he went on to make. Mick Jones sounding awesome before making the young girls cry with Foreigner. And Gary Wright on fire with all the goodness of his solo albums on display but with a big booming band behind him. I mean The Dream Weaver was only a year later.

call me crazy...

scott seward, Thursday, 5 April 2018 20:33 (eight years ago)

ok, i have dug around and realised the all too obvious answer from me : louis xiv
both albums were absolutely hated by the world/ILM hivemind,
yet i quietly listened to them both far too many times that was good for me, and still do.

mark e, Thursday, 5 April 2018 20:45 (eight years ago)

don't think there's anything on ILM about Francisco Aubele

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 5 April 2018 20:50 (eight years ago)


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