Rockist Git Frank Turner and the horror of the live version of "I Still Believe"

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everything about this is so disgusting

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 October 2011 21:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hahah

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 October 2011 21:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

i should do a poll about the things that frank turner believes in

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 October 2011 21:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

oh god he says fuckin' "gramophone" jesus

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 October 2011 21:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

what a terrible fuckin song

wrestlingisreal420 (crüt), Thursday, 20 October 2011 21:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

that dude probably like joe strummer & the mescaleros a lot

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 October 2011 21:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

Something touched him deep inside
The day the Spin Doctors died

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 October 2011 21:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

it appears plaid shirts are key elements of this belief system

erschloraque, Thursday, 20 October 2011 22:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

shame he doesn't believe in writing good songs

owenf, Thursday, 20 October 2011 22:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

I used to know this guy slightly when he was in Million Dead or some band before that, he was outstandingly pretentious.

|III|||II|||I|I||| (Matt #2), Thursday, 20 October 2011 22:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

oh he was in a band? is he like blink-182 dude that discovered jesus springsteen?

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 October 2011 22:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Congratulations Brits. You finally have your own Daughtry.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 20 October 2011 23:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's insane how big this fucking tool is. I mean he's playing at Wembley soon. This guy. Skrillex. Ed Sheeran. Mumford And Sons. I feel like cashing my fucking chips in. It's like 1997 all over again.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Thursday, 20 October 2011 23:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hello Hooray, what a nice day, for the Eton Rifles, Eton Rifles...

Turrican, Thursday, 20 October 2011 23:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

i only managed 8 seconds of the vid so i won't be hearing the song

i hope somebody runs over his balls with a steam roller, soon

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 October 2011 23:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

a proper authentic steam roller running on sea coal, obv

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 October 2011 23:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

Turner was educated on a scholarship at Eton College, where he studied alongside Prince William, and later went on to attend the London School of Economics where he read History.[2] His father Roger Turner, is the son of Sir Mark Turner, formerly chairman of high street retailer BHS, and had himself also attended Eton before becoming a City investment banker, while his mother, Jane, the daughter of a bishop, is a primary school headmistress.[3]

^ Punk fucken' rock, people

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Thursday, 20 October 2011 23:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

well yeah, basically

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 October 2011 23:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

make that a convoy of steam rollers btw

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 October 2011 23:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

I STILL BELIEVE...in music not made by black folks or people with vaginas.

SirGreendown, Friday, 21 October 2011 05:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

Listening to this makes me dislike Bruce Springsteen

All kinds of heinous things, Friday, 21 October 2011 07:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

just gonna up the stakes for ilxors in the US

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwGbx82tMv0

and the UK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEowBvFlcvE

thank me later

We All Had Guess Papers (DJ Mencap), Friday, 21 October 2011 07:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

gonna check out prices for steam roller hire today

Two Noble Klinsmenn (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 October 2011 07:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

'who would have thought' - some etonian

bongs of a dread redeemer (Lamp), Friday, 21 October 2011 07:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

Christ what an arsehole. Doran's right - this guy + Mumford + Sheeran is just too much.

Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Friday, 21 October 2011 08:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

For the record, I don't care how posh anyone is until they start pretending to be horny handed sons of toil. So this is one of the first reasons why I'll hold him down when the steam rollers are coming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4jfwTI_0Bw

And Million Dead were OK, nothing more.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Friday, 21 October 2011 08:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

As with Sheeran there seems to be this hideous overlap between singer-songwriter cliches and bland observational comedy. He could be on the Now Show.

Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Friday, 21 October 2011 08:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

I was supposed to be reviewing Ed Sheeran for NME but they (label/PR) point blank refused to send me a copy. Which kind of shows you how much genuine affection and support for him even his own people have.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Friday, 21 October 2011 08:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

it really does feel like both ed and frank are the power brokers in the so called "music industry" saying : "will this do, cos we just don't care anymore"

fucking dreadful, and to think i stopped listening to miles davis to see what the fuss in this thread was all about.

mark e, Friday, 21 October 2011 09:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

never heard of this guy at all. Assumed at first he must be american due to the thread starter. Has this guy sold a lot of albums then?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 21 October 2011 09:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

until john said "It's insane how big this fucking tool is" i thought this was just another rebecca black styled net thing ..

never heard him ..

mark e, Friday, 21 October 2011 09:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

aah now I remember, I did see this cock on tv at a festival recently (Reading? probably). He had that FTHC backdrop onstage.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Friday, 21 October 2011 09:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

ahh .. have seen that cover in fopp, but never looked at it properly.

mark e, Friday, 21 October 2011 09:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

Haha, the logo rules but the dude is not backed.

His whole existence befuddles me. A flannel sporting posh British guy who champions Roots Rock and American Hardcore? I wasn't even aware they allowed rock music in England.

All kinds of heinous things, Friday, 21 October 2011 09:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

"england keep my bones" is a weird promise/threat

chile can have mine

xp rock music was invented in england (then given away)

mark s, Friday, 21 October 2011 09:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

observed as early as the late 80s: the jam and the clash were very popular with rugby players/fans = mainly posh foax (not posher than me, but posher than you)

IT'S A POP SONG ABOUT ETON! (the only one)

mark s, Friday, 21 October 2011 09:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh shit, that Half Man Half Biscuit cover ;_;

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Friday, 21 October 2011 10:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

I would love to watch all of Electric Wizard pull Turner's rib cage out through his anus and then beat him into a coma with it.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Friday, 21 October 2011 10:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

hey HMHB and Shellac are both cool bands I wonder why more people don't cover their songs - well I'm gonna do something about that

We All Had Guess Papers (DJ Mencap), Friday, 21 October 2011 10:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

England keep his bones but make the rest of him into a ginsters pie and shoot it into the sun.

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Friday, 21 October 2011 10:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

but in a derogatory way

mark s, Friday, 21 October 2011 10:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

A ginster's pie-radise. Amirite?

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Friday, 21 October 2011 10:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

I used to know this guy slightly when he was in Million Dead or some band before that, he was outstandingly pretentious.

― |III|||II|||I|I||| (Matt #2), Thursday, 20 October 2011 22:51 (Yesterday)

I know someone who was friends with him when he was in Million Dead, but they drifted apart as FT got more popular and more dickish and indeed pretentious to go with it. All things considered, he must be at unimaginable highs of pretentiousness nowadays.

sunn :o))) (Merdeyeux), Friday, 21 October 2011 11:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

I have both the CDs that Kneejerk (his band before Million Dead) did and they are not bad as wide-eyed Britisher imitations of Refused go but the lyrics are just this witless overreaching teenage jumble of pretend Situationism

like I say, an imitation of Refused

We All Had Guess Papers (DJ Mencap), Friday, 21 October 2011 11:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

btw what's the deal w/ M@tt using the phrase "rockist git" in the title of this thread

We All Had Guess Papers (DJ Mencap), Friday, 21 October 2011 11:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

"rockist" is old-school shorthand for someone who believes a very particular tranche of music -- in this case "roots rock" -- is "real music", and that his own "realness" (despite class background) can be ensured by bad mimicry and the "correct" gestural tropes

"git" is accurately descriptive

mark s, Friday, 21 October 2011 11:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's also a subtle play on the phrase 'rocket-powered ginsters'

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Friday, 21 October 2011 12:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

Just seen that video. Oh my god. Oh my dear god.

dog latin, Friday, 21 October 2011 12:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

BTW, this guy is apparently headlining Wembley Arena next year O_O

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Friday, 21 October 2011 12:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

UK members of the Sovereign Citizen Movement: Lester Pigott, Lord Ashcroft, Jimmy Carr, Gary Barlow.

Neil S, Friday, 12 April 2013 15:05 (five years ago) Permalink

I've had to speak to some 'freeman' people. It was kinda lol but mostly sad - most of them seemed to have other mental issues going on.

oppet, Friday, 12 April 2013 17:11 (five years ago) Permalink

This fucking guy. I despair for the human race sometimes *weeps bitterly*

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 12 April 2013 17:27 (five years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Frank Turner Reviews The Singles
"It made me want to stab myself in the face..."

http://www.clashmusic.com/features/frank-turner-reviews-the-singles">=http://www.clashmusic.com/features/frank-turner-reviews-the-singles

owenf, Friday, 9 August 2013 12:22 (five years ago) Permalink

The fact that he didn't is a grave disappointment.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 August 2013 13:03 (five years ago) Permalink

Ha I recently had my hair cut by one of the guys from Arches. He was telling me about his band then, and this is the first time I've seen them mentioned elsewhere. What a load of shite! He does a good haircut though.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 9 August 2013 13:13 (five years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I soooo want to bag on this asshat on fb, but I have a friend who's an "I've tattooed his lyrics on my body!"-level fan and she'd probably unfriend me and lose my number if I did that. He's just such a rich target, though! In the grand scheme, WGAF about Frank Turner, but it pains me not to go in on this clown whenever I want.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 17:51 (three years ago) Permalink

which Frank Turner lyrics does she have tattooed on her body

soref, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 17:55 (three years ago) Permalink

"Love is about all the changes you make and not just three small words."

:/

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 18:00 (three years ago) Permalink

could be worse tbh

https://www.facebook.com/FrankTurnerTattoos/photos_stream

soref, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 18:01 (three years ago) Permalink

Does he rhyme it with "turds", "birds" or "girds"?

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 18:02 (three years ago) Permalink

GOOD GAWD

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 18:02 (three years ago) Permalink

nightmarez

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 18:19 (three years ago) Permalink

I'm gonna pretend that all those "I Still Believe" tats are for Tim Cappello.

how's life, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 18:22 (three years ago) Permalink

"...three small words."

Fuck off cunt

The Manner of Crawly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 18:26 (three years ago) Permalink

"Nashville Tennessee"

From the heart of the Southern Downs, to the North-East London reservoirs,
From the start, the land scaped my sound, before I'd ever been to America.

And if I knew anybody who played pedal steel guitar,
I'd get them in my band and then my band would get real far,
But I was raised in middle England, and not in Nashville Tennessee,
And the only person in my band is me.

A simple scale on an old guitar, and a punk rock sense of honesty.
I cannot fail, I've got this far with no knowledge of mid-west geography.

And if I knew anywhere where I could drive in a straight line
For hours in the desert, I'd drive for hours at a time.
But I was raised in middle England, not in Nashville Tennessee,
And the only person in this car is me.

And yes I'm in four-four time, and yes I use cheap cheap rhymes,
But I try to make a sound my own.
I know I don't break new ground, many have travelled this sound,
But I try to make it sound like home.

Well I've been to Texas state, I didn't think it was that fucking great,
And Nebraska is just a bunch of songs,
Holloway and Hampshire where I belong.
And I don't know anybody who plays pedal steel guitar,
All the city roads are twisted and I do not own a car.
I was raised in middle England, not in Nashville Tennessee,
And the only thing I'm offering is me.

Richie, please.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 18:29 (three years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x72GyoWs3r8

Can't I just spend the next four years at a punk show?
I want to spend the next four years in the front row
Because if the world outside is going to shit
Then you will find me in the centre of the circle pit
I'm going to spend the next four years at a punk show

Can't I just spend the next four years getting wasted?
Maybe if I drink enough whisky shots I can face it
Because if we're welcoming in World War Three
Then I'm waving goodbye to my sobriety
I'm going to spend the next four years getting wasted

What do we do if they don't represent us?
What do we do, do, do?
I thought that we were winning the war against the homophobes and the racists
You can't be serious man, we can't be this fucked
Well I'm sorry, old friends, I guess it's time to suck it up
Don't go giving up now, here's what we do:

We can't just spend the next four years in a safe space
I'm going to spend the next four years getting outraged
So every single day let's find a brand new way
To let the motherfuckers know that we can't be swept away
I'm going to spend the next four years on the barricades

A change is going to come, and there's nothing to be done
A change is going to come, come, come:
The only thing to choose is to decide which way you're going to jump
So don't give into the hatred; don't give into the fear
Pour yourself a shot of anger to go with your beer

Let's be the sand in the gears for the next four years

soref, Thursday, 2 February 2017 04:17 (one year ago) Permalink

wait shurely he got the governments he wanted?

sheer presence, look and size (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 February 2017 07:17 (one year ago) Permalink

who could have guessed that, of all the horrors of the last couple of weeks, it would be the reminder that frank turner exists that would push me over the edge into full-on existential crisis

for sale: steve bannon waifu pillow (heavily soiled) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 February 2017 10:46 (one year ago) Permalink

everyone who wrote one of those "Trump being elected would actually be good in some ways because it will inspire some kick-ass protest music" hot takes should be forced to listen to this once a day for the next four years

soref, Thursday, 2 February 2017 12:58 (one year ago) Permalink

lmao i had no idea there was a frank turner thread on ilx

his last record was very good

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 February 2017 13:08 (one year ago) Permalink

his last record was very good

this is utterly beyond the pale

for sale: steve bannon waifu pillow (heavily soiled) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 February 2017 13:47 (one year ago) Permalink

lmao

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 February 2017 13:49 (one year ago) Permalink

that song is awful

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 2 February 2017 13:50 (one year ago) Permalink

back to the emo thread with me

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 February 2017 14:15 (one year ago) Permalink

lmao i had no idea there was a frank turner thread on ilx

Welcome to ILX's Frank Turner thread!

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 February 2017 14:23 (one year ago) Permalink

why is frank turner so bad and hated

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 February 2017 14:39 (one year ago) Permalink

i feel like this thread is a pretty good primer tbh but in brief

- privately-educated but presents as a horny-handed son of the soil
- that rarest and most ridiculous of things: a british libertarian
- his songs are fucking awful

for sale: steve bannon waifu pillow (heavily soiled) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 February 2017 14:43 (one year ago) Permalink

his last record was very good

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 February 2017 13:08 (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Closest I've ever come to FPing for something as innocuous as an opinion on music tbh

ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 2 February 2017 15:55 (one year ago) Permalink

lol i would luv 2 be banned for enjoying a few frank turner songs

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 February 2017 15:58 (one year ago) Permalink

tbh if it wasn't Brad I'd've pulled the trigger

sheer presence, look and size (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 February 2017 16:04 (one year ago) Permalink

wonderful non-git John K. Samson's only tour date here was opening for Turner and it was such a bummer.

fits, Thursday, 2 February 2017 19:33 (one year ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

Classic thread made doubly classic by Brad's late entry into it.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Monday, 18 September 2017 09:53 (one year ago) Permalink

every time i've only just forgotten about the existence of rockist git frank turner this thread gets bumped ;_;

Mr. Eulon Mask, urging the UN to ban the "homicide robot" (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 September 2017 10:46 (one year ago) Permalink

this thread reminds me how good Billy Bragg is.

piscesx, Monday, 18 September 2017 14:21 (one year ago) Permalink

saw Jason Isbell in Oakland on Friday night...opening act none other than Frank :/

the crowd was super into his nonsense but i could not stand him. it was like if a shitty magician became a singer in a Kiss coverband, it was veering deeply into Paul Stanley parody territory
(I NEED A VOLUNTEER FROM THE AUDIENCE TO PLAY HARMONICA)
(EVERYBODY CLAP YOUR HANDS) (
EVERYBODY SING LIKE THIS: OOOOOOHHH)
(THE CROWD IN MONTANA SANG WAY LOUDER THAN YOU GUYS, I THOUGHT OAKLAND COULD DO BETTER)
All this endless interactive nonsense, it was maddening
Just fuckin sing your shit and if we like it then maybe we'll fuckin clap how about that

and i have always found it super annoying when the opening act comes out & plays like they're the headliner.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 September 2017 16:26 (one year ago) Permalink

doesn't sound very libertarian

be the cringe you want to see in the world (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 September 2017 16:32 (one year ago) Permalink

he's moved on to the nuremburg rally phase of his career

plp will eat itself (NickB), Monday, 18 September 2017 16:34 (one year ago) Permalink

The Quietus posed the questions to Albini w/r/t to FT

Are you aware of Frank Turner's version?

SA: I don't know who Frank Turner is.

He's a sort of libertarian Billy Bragg figure from Hampshire with a fashionable beard.

SA: That sounds horrible. I like the actual socialist Billy Bragg. What's his name? I'm going to Google this fucker after we're done. However bad it is, whatever cringing I have to do when this is over, it's on you.

He introduces his version by saying how much the song chimed with his own "situation in life" which makes you wonder if he's one of those dudes who's maybe not getting it.


SA: Everything you've said to me makes me think I want this guy to jump in well but I haven't actually heard his music and I'm not familiar with him so I'm going to maintain the indifference of ignorance for now.

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 18 September 2017 16:34 (one year ago) Permalink

i take some small measure of solace in imagining frank being crushed by albini's pre-emptive dismissal

Mr. Eulon Mask, urging the UN to ban the "homicide robot" (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 September 2017 16:51 (one year ago) Permalink

iirc some punter got mad at me for using the word git in this thread title

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 September 2017 16:57 (one year ago) Permalink

lol waht

Mr. Eulon Mask, urging the UN to ban the "homicide robot" (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 September 2017 17:01 (one year ago) Permalink

iirc some punter got mad at me for using the word git in this thread title

― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, September 18, 2017 11:57 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Oi mate that's our word you best be keppin outcha gob right? As you were."

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 18 September 2017 17:06 (one year ago) Permalink

Classic thread made doubly classic by Brad's late entry into it.

― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Monday, September 18, 2017 2:53 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you're welcome

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 18 September 2017 17:25 (one year ago) Permalink

found this in the billy bragg guardian article linked upthread

[quote]Frank Turner reminds me very much of my first boyfriend Henry. We met at a student party; everyone else was getting drunk and dancing but he was simply sitting on the stairs strumming an acoustic guitar looking into the middle distance like some very lost soul. He was gently singing a song called What the thunder said which he told me was inspired by The Wasteland and when he sang it was like time stopped. I think what Henry and Frank both have in common is an ability to give a voice to the unspoken and to speak for a generation. Both are literate and understand the likes of Chaucer, Kyd and Marvell but both can also relate to the man in the street; after a date with myself Henry once spent nearly 10 minutes talking to a homeless man on Coldharbour Lane. Give praise that people like Frank, Mumford and Sons and Emmy the Great even exist today and bless us with their music.[/quote]

cheeseburger, Monday, 18 September 2017 20:48 (one year ago) Permalink

ysi?

Mr. Eulon Mask, urging the UN to ban the "homicide robot" (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 September 2017 20:51 (one year ago) Permalink

five months pass...

just remembered, quite unprompted, that this guy existed and frankly it's ruined my weeked

I’m 16 and a member of UKIP’s youth wing, young independence (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 March 2018 15:15 (nine months ago) Permalink

Dead? No.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Friday, 9 March 2018 15:18 (nine months ago) Permalink


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