I Confess : What sucks most about your musical tastes and attitudes ?

- a fear of/fascination with my own adolescence and unresolved issues therein which leads me to my current (3 yrs and counting) backlash against 'indie'

- deadly low attention span

Still it just strikes me that the intentions behind IDM records are so suspect. I mean what are these guys trying to do? Do they have any aim? Maybe that's the point I'm missing. I really don't know and frankly I don't want to know.

Also I am fiercely cranky about people's prejudices against dancefloor dance music which I feel will never really be critically recognised, yadda yadda yadda. Also I'm developing a complex over Orbital, Chemical Bros, Underworld/any other popular dance act and it's fans not being 4 real enough to like the club derivatives of these acts.

What else? Jesus now I start I could go on all day......

I'm more talking about the fact that the actual club scene at which Orbital might DJ is mainly centred on singles. And the vast majority of people never hear these singles. They generally have their own appeal independent of the albumdance bands I named. I think it's odd because alot of the singles surface months later, and the ones which don't are still quite catchy. That is to say I'm not talking about some underground thing here, I just think there's genuine potential for more people to hear this music.

I suppose it's a singles versus albums thing.

Me? I guess I'm just not ready to accept poptimism outright. I realise this is frowned upon in IL-circles, but for whatever it's worth I can't understand the appeal behind so-called manufactured pop bands. And yes, I've heard all the reasons why I shouldn't NOT like them ("All bands are commercial", "You enjoy it on its sonic merits" etc) but really I feel most pop (as in Britney or whoever's the top of the charts these days) is aimed at an entirely different demographic from mine. Then again I've come round to the fact ABBA were an incredible band, a band who spawned the girl and boy groups of today and yet no-one has hit quite those emotions since AFAIK.

I'm also quite rubbish when it comes to Garage and Grime - it's not fast or slow enough for this white ass to do anything other than wiggle a bit and then sit back down confused.

I will say, though, that I have a tendency to love things for what I think are purely ironic reasons. Like, I love Meatloaf. I'm not sure if it's because I love "Paradise by the Dashboard Lights" because it's a fucking incredible song, or because it's so cheesy and bombastic that I love it for how bad it is. I honestly don't know - I guess it's probably both. I don't know if that makes me less of a genuine music fan, to like something for how "bad" it is. "My Humps" gives me lots of joy, and I'm pretty sure I only like it because it's so fucking retarded. I'm gonna go with dancing like an idiot in the club over not having fun because I'm not actually "enjoying" the song, though.

in theory I'm a reasonable man. I believe there's no fundamental, objective difference in quality between, say, paris hilton and stravinsky - it all depends on the criteria you use to assess a piece of work.

but beneath the surface I'm a complete snob and I hate pop music. I find grown men obsessing over teeny music such as kelly clarkson or timberlake highly disturbing. I have an instinctively averse reaction to jauntiness. I am disgusted by synchronised dancing. I don't see catchiness as a virtue; quite the opposite. deep down, I suspect that the current vogue among adults for children's music designed by marketing departmetns is a passing hipster fad. please forgive me.

but at the same time I'm a hypocrite. I like a fair amount of adolescent metal. like I said, please forgive me.

I'm bored by repetitive beats and value complexity. therefore dance music and hip hop are closed worlds to me. I have tried, but I have found nothing of worth there. I fear this is an omission, but it's not one I care about. this makes me feel guilty.

I love jazz, noise, heavy prog, hardcore punk, japanese oddities, various 'world' musics and far-out experimental weirdness. I consider pushing the envelope to be a virtue in and of itself. forgive, etc.

I hate so many canonical 'icons' that I wonder whether I hate them simply because they're icons and I'm a contrary git...bowie, dylan, neil young, the stones, the pistols, the clash, madonna, pink floyd, etc, etc. then I wonder if I'm a boring old fart because I like the beatles, the doors and tim buckley. hypocrite. confused hypocrite.

I care far too much about music and nowhere near enough about anything else.

but at the same time I'm a hypocrite. I like a fair amount of adolescent metal. like I said, please forgive me.

YEh, that sums me up pretty much.

online, from the states, but just abt politics mostly

After 30 years of being into music (on and off), you start to see how inbred rock's family tree is; I've liked Thee Hydrogen Terrors, Tight Bros, Magik Markers, Deerhoof, and assorted freakyfolky stuff in recent years, but it's always with a "been there, heard that" attitude that precludes me from searching further or being long-term excited about it.

As a long-time lurker here, I've been most often amused by threads about music I don't particularly like, e.g. the one-named
prefab divas (they're all Little Eva With Attitude, aren't they?) with designer beats and industrial-strength marketing. They all sound much the same to me. While the practices of Phil Spector and Berry Gordy could have been called "assembly line" long ago, they seem more like outsider art compared to today's music-industry Henry Fords. You can have your Model T in any color you like, as long as it's a hue of Timbaland or Storch.

(I do, however, like Justin, in small doses.)

I'm also tickled at how music marketed to teens and tweens, who don't have rivers of pop history running through their heads (i.e. the ideal consumer), is inexplicably
overanalysed by middle-aged individuals who can't seem to let go of the shiny-shiny products of the entertainment-industrial complex — for fear of not being "with it", perhaps. Is it a "life gives you lemons" thing for xhuxk and Kogan? Here's a clue folks: Paul Anka is better in 2006 than he was in 1957. Which isn't saying much, actually.

NP: a whole bunch of Herbie Nichols, on WKCR.

I have little interest in classical or opera or lots of other things.

I tried Beefheart once and frankly could not be arsed.

For all my talk of "listening properly" I still don't find enough time between other things to do enough of that to not feel guilty, and so do rely on the iPod and the commute. Although I still have better headphones than most.

I could carry on for ages.

The thought of the new Beyonce or Justin album fills me with instant ennui (and dig my CoM cheerleading for both back in the 2003 day).

Whereas I'm looking forward to the new M Ward, the new Bonnie Prince Billy, and *whisper it* the new Junior Boys.

but so is the new justin!

"I get much more out of Lambchop or Wilco than..."

jesus, you guys really have given up. should we take you out behind the barn and shoot you?

You stupid fucking idiot.

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My tastes appear to be going in exactly the opposite direction from yours, Sick Mouthy!