Music Criticism in Video Form

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This isn't a nerd problem. This is a white people problem.

*ding ding ding*

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:44 (eight years ago)

people of color and women can also be nerds, they just tend to not be these assholes but the ones whose lives are directly affected

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Friday, 6 October 2017 16:45 (eight years ago)

literally every subgroup dominated by white people manifests racist tendencies when put into positions of power
literally every subgroup dominated by men manifests sexist tendencies when put into positions of power
literally every subgroup dominated by heterosexuals manifests homophobic tendencies when put into positions of power

are you seeing a pattern here yet or do you want to keep pretending that getting rid of all the software engineers will bring about social utopia

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Friday, 6 October 2017 16:49 (eight years ago)

nah, you're right,

i'm just less right. http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:51 (eight years ago)

you just get "nerds" being used as part of the online army. if it was a strictly nerd issue you wouldn't have a Trump presidency that has made america a safe space for opinions and platforms and policy decisions that would have been a bit more career-ruining in times past (though maybe not as much as we'd like to imagine, tbh.)

that buzzfeed story is crucial bc you can see how calculated it all is, how it actually crosses political lines and involves purportedly liberal white dudes, all of whom are pushing back against everyone else as they feel their power slipping.

nomar, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:52 (eight years ago)

xp: If this whole sidetrack was just a setup so you could make that joke, I'm hopping a bus so I can punch you in the arm

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Friday, 6 October 2017 16:53 (eight years ago)

literally every subgroup dominated by white people manifests racist tendencies when put into positions of power
literally every subgroup dominated by men manifests sexist tendencies when put into positions of power
literally every subgroup dominated by heterosexuals manifests homophobic tendencies when put into positions of power

are you seeing a pattern here yet or do you want to keep pretending that getting rid of all the software engineers will bring about social utopia

― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Friday, 6 October 2017 16:49 (five minutes ago) Permalink

so the problem isn't whiteness, men, or heteronormativity.. it's power?

sleepingbag, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:56 (eight years ago)

great thread

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Friday, 6 October 2017 16:56 (eight years ago)

I've completely lost track of the debate here. Can somebody sum this all up?

Evan, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:57 (eight years ago)

Hopefully in a video?

Evan, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:57 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkUxFB6jbDc

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:00 (eight years ago)

Upper Mississippi, Katherine and djp OTM, many of the rest of you not so much to are you fucking kidding me

jjjusten, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:02 (eight years ago)

i don't wanna feed this sidetrack but what exactly is altright about rick and morty

isn't his entire thing stating outright that most people are inconvenient and it's fine to dispose of them because you are biologically superior

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:04 (eight years ago)

Won't someone please think of the man-children?

Evan, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:07 (eight years ago)

I had to google Rick and Morty. It didn't help.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:07 (eight years ago)

lol Evan

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:08 (eight years ago)

I love how half this thread is "actually it's about ethics in music criticism in video form" gtfo of here with that nonsense, guys a fucking racist, fuck him, end of story

jjjusten, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:10 (eight years ago)

I've never really watched Fantano's videos, is he legit alt-right or is it a Whiney-esque "he's crypto alt-right because he likes TMBG/Magic the Gathering/other nerd stuff" type thing?

soref, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:14 (eight years ago)

i recommend you read the article that kicked off this discussion http://www.thefader.com/2017/10/03/needle-drop-deleted-youtube-channel-this-is-the-plan

Erotic Wolf (crüt), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:15 (eight years ago)

i recommend you read the article that kicked off this discussion http://www.thefader.com/2017/10/03/needle-drop-deleted-youtube-channel-this-is-the-plan

― Erotic Wolf (crüt)

and then ignore everything subsequent to it unless you are interested in debating whether or not magic: the gathering is a gateway drug to fascism

can we please light this thread on fire and burn it

bob lefse (rushomancy), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:17 (eight years ago)

definitely did not mean to lead things down this path, sorry everyone (and dan i get your defense. i think i am just becoming way more prudish!)

maura, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:21 (eight years ago)

i read that article. it's gross. i did just think he was an annoying dweeb not a vile grossness.

scott seward, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:21 (eight years ago)

i think, like power, which corrupts absotively, the internet makes people gross! except for tavi. shine on, girlfriend! wait, is she alt-right yet...

scott seward, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:23 (eight years ago)

definitely did not mean to lead things down this path, sorry everyone (and dan i get your defense. i think i am just becoming way more prudish!)

― maura

for that matter i apologize for bringing up million dollar extreme, i wouldn't have mentioned it if i had any inkling that it would lead to this

bob lefse (rushomancy), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:27 (eight years ago)

It's ok. I think we'll recover from this y'all.

Treeship, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:28 (eight years ago)

“Thank you President Trump for your honesty & courage to tell the truth about #thatistheplan,” Mr. Duke said in a Twitter post.

Evan, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:32 (eight years ago)

is there a good critical thread for the whole tim & eric/adult swim/surreal/nothing matters humor thing? it is kind of an epidemic. maybe there is talk about it on an adult swim thread. i'm not trying to start anything here. or maybe a good article?

scott seward, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:32 (eight years ago)

I'd be up for starting a thread on old episodes of Transformers and Thundercats.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:33 (eight years ago)

What about it?

xp

Evan, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:34 (eight years ago)

it's always a good thing to take down those in power doing evil shit, fuckin idiots.

kurt schwitterz, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:42 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftU5GfORvH8

bob lefse (rushomancy), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:46 (eight years ago)

al: Taking sides: Transformers Vs. Thundercats

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:47 (eight years ago)

Milo before one of his college appearance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umU8vKRNnRw

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:52 (eight years ago)

isn't his entire thing stating outright that most people are inconvenient and it's fine to dispose of them because you are biologically superior

well if you think that matters let me tell you about the fanbase of a show called My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

that said putting such a character at the center of your show is definitely what leads to having some shitty fans, nearly all of the real toxic shit that comes out this seems to come from people who identify with Rick. which is like SP fans who think Cartman is the hero. disclaimer I have actually only watched one full episode of this show. sorry to disappoint

frogbs, Friday, 6 October 2017 18:02 (eight years ago)

is there a good critical thread for the whole tim & eric/adult swim/surreal/nothing matters humor thing? it is kind of an epidemic. maybe there is talk about it on an adult swim thread. i'm not trying to start anything here. or maybe a good article?

idk but it's kind of interesting that some of these guys have felt the need to "come out" strongly as anti-Trump/alt-right because they would up inadvertently cultivating the wrong fanbase. Tim Heidecker doing political humor is not something I would've anticipated in 2015

frogbs, Friday, 6 October 2017 18:03 (eight years ago)

rick & morty is good. not adventure time good, but good.

scott seward, Friday, 6 October 2017 18:04 (eight years ago)

all these cartoons kinda remind me of each other. steven universe. uncle grandpa. i blame chowder. or flapjack. all shows i like!

scott seward, Friday, 6 October 2017 18:05 (eight years ago)

the adult swimification of the world and the internet is something else though. chowder gone sour.

scott seward, Friday, 6 October 2017 18:06 (eight years ago)

Stop blaming your sub-tribal affiliations for your across-the-board shittiness.

I can't believe nobody did a "new borad description" joke with this one

El Tomboto, Friday, 6 October 2017 18:08 (eight years ago)

I was off-put Rick and Morty for a long time cos I don't much care for Adult Swim vibe

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 October 2017 18:10 (eight years ago)

is there a good critical thread for the whole tim & eric/adult swim/surreal/nothing matters humor thing? it is kind of an epidemic. maybe there is talk about it on an adult swim thread. i'm not trying to start anything here. or maybe a good article?
idk but it's kind of interesting that some of these guys have felt the need to "come out" strongly as anti-Trump/alt-right because they would up inadvertently cultivating the wrong fanbase. Tim Heidecker doing political humor is not something I would've anticipated in 2015

― frogbs, Friday, October 6, 2017 11:03 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tim heidecker has been portraying a satirical conservative fictional version of himself on on on cinema since 2012

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 6 October 2017 18:12 (eight years ago)

was watching patton oswalt hillbilly show and i thought it was kinda weird that he was doing an adult swim version of a mr. show sketch. i mean it wasn't THAT weird. but he's not a young man anymore.

scott seward, Friday, 6 October 2017 18:13 (eight years ago)

heidecker made an entire album's worth of dumb songs about herman cain in 2012 fyi

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 6 October 2017 18:22 (eight years ago)

it really does seem like every ILX conversation about racism eventually turns into a ranking of each poster's favorite Adult Swim shows

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Friday, 6 October 2017 18:22 (eight years ago)

i've narrowed down the birth of adult swim humor to this 1 minute and 45 seconds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA-rIhvpNGQ

scott seward, Friday, 6 October 2017 18:24 (eight years ago)

"it really does seem like every ILX conversation about racism eventually turns into a ranking of each poster's favorite Adult Swim shows"

lol, is this true? it probably is knowing this place. so what is your favorite adult swim show?

scott seward, Friday, 6 October 2017 18:25 (eight years ago)

parker and stone having a moral center unlike dan harmon is jut incomprehensible to me. R&M, like community before it, is about narcissists coming to terms with their love for other people. it's way healthier than any other show about a genius in the last 15 years. south park is just nihilism. yeah, burn this thread I guess.

gospodin simmel, Friday, 6 October 2017 18:26 (eight years ago)

Hah that whole Cainthology thing was so bizarre any political content in it seemed almost secondary

frogbs, Friday, 6 October 2017 18:31 (eight years ago)

to you

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 6 October 2017 18:36 (eight years ago)

it really does seem like every ILX conversation about racism eventually turns into a ranking of each poster's favorite Adult Swim shows

i find this depressing and sad and yah ilx white people need to listen better.

kurt schwitterz, Friday, 6 October 2017 18:38 (eight years ago)


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