If everything is problematic then nothing is problematic
― Evan, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:35 (eight years ago)
also lmao that the dude who draws a paycheck for rushing out clickbait like "The 50 Greatest Tom Petty Songs: The Definitive Guide" is now clowning on someone for using RYM
― frogbs, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:36 (eight years ago)
Yes, it's definitely NOT nerds who are out here writing treatises about how women shouldn't work in tech, and building Uber apps that make taxi drivers sleep in grocery store parking lots so white weekend warriors can earn some more Xbox money, and propping up/funding systems like Google and Facebook and Twitter that basically escorted a white nationalist into the white house. Yeah, better defend these people right away!
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:39 (eight years ago)
do they listen to TMBG though
― frogbs, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:40 (eight years ago)
some of the more reflexively cognisant vaporwave is sheerly brilliant and necessary. some is bad-creepy. sometimes it's hard to tell which is which at first, although I set my vaporwave standards high which tends to weed out the nefarious shit
for some reason r&m gives me the creeps where something like south park doesn't. maybe it comes down to personal aesthetic choice, maybe it's because parker and stone for all their outrageousness have an obvious moral centre*. but is it old paradigm to have morals idek any more
*if someone wants to argue r&m has morals rather than endless nihilistic anguish then be my guest
― imago, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:40 (eight years ago)
This isn't a nerd problem. This is a white people problem.
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Friday, 6 October 2017 16:42 (eight years ago)
Stop blaming your sub-tribal affiliations for your across-the-board shittiness.
because parker and stone for all their outrageousness have an obvious moral centre*
lol no they don't
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:43 (eight years ago)
*ding ding ding*
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:44 (eight years ago)
people of color and women can also be nerds, they just tend to not be these assholes but the ones whose lives are directly affected
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Friday, 6 October 2017 16:45 (eight years ago)
literally every subgroup dominated by white people manifests racist tendencies when put into positions of powerliterally every subgroup dominated by men manifests sexist tendencies when put into positions of powerliterally every subgroup dominated by heterosexuals manifests homophobic tendencies when put into positions of power
are you seeing a pattern here yet or do you want to keep pretending that getting rid of all the software engineers will bring about social utopia
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Friday, 6 October 2017 16:49 (eight years ago)
nah, you're right,
i'm just less right. http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:51 (eight years ago)
you just get "nerds" being used as part of the online army. if it was a strictly nerd issue you wouldn't have a Trump presidency that has made america a safe space for opinions and platforms and policy decisions that would have been a bit more career-ruining in times past (though maybe not as much as we'd like to imagine, tbh.)
that buzzfeed story is crucial bc you can see how calculated it all is, how it actually crosses political lines and involves purportedly liberal white dudes, all of whom are pushing back against everyone else as they feel their power slipping.
― nomar, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:52 (eight years ago)
xp: If this whole sidetrack was just a setup so you could make that joke, I'm hopping a bus so I can punch you in the arm
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Friday, 6 October 2017 16:53 (eight years ago)
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Friday, 6 October 2017 16:49 (five minutes ago) Permalink
so the problem isn't whiteness, men, or heteronormativity.. it's power?
― sleepingbag, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:56 (eight years ago)
great thread
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Friday, 6 October 2017 16:56 (eight years ago)
I've completely lost track of the debate here. Can somebody sum this all up?
― Evan, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:57 (eight years ago)
Hopefully in a video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkUxFB6jbDc
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:00 (eight years ago)
Upper Mississippi, Katherine and djp OTM, many of the rest of you not so much to are you fucking kidding me
― jjjusten, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:02 (eight years ago)
i don't wanna feed this sidetrack but what exactly is altright about rick and morty
isn't his entire thing stating outright that most people are inconvenient and it's fine to dispose of them because you are biologically superior
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:04 (eight years ago)
Won't someone please think of the man-children?
― Evan, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:07 (eight years ago)
I had to google Rick and Morty. It didn't help.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:07 (eight years ago)
lol Evan
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:08 (eight years ago)
I love how half this thread is "actually it's about ethics in music criticism in video form" gtfo of here with that nonsense, guys a fucking racist, fuck him, end of story
― jjjusten, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:10 (eight years ago)
I've never really watched Fantano's videos, is he legit alt-right or is it a Whiney-esque "he's crypto alt-right because he likes TMBG/Magic the Gathering/other nerd stuff" type thing?
― soref, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:14 (eight years ago)
i recommend you read the article that kicked off this discussion http://www.thefader.com/2017/10/03/needle-drop-deleted-youtube-channel-this-is-the-plan
― Erotic Wolf (crüt), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:15 (eight years ago)
― Erotic Wolf (crüt)
and then ignore everything subsequent to it unless you are interested in debating whether or not magic: the gathering is a gateway drug to fascism
can we please light this thread on fire and burn it
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:17 (eight years ago)
definitely did not mean to lead things down this path, sorry everyone (and dan i get your defense. i think i am just becoming way more prudish!)
― maura, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:21 (eight years ago)
i read that article. it's gross. i did just think he was an annoying dweeb not a vile grossness.
― scott seward, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:21 (eight years ago)
i think, like power, which corrupts absotively, the internet makes people gross! except for tavi. shine on, girlfriend! wait, is she alt-right yet...
― scott seward, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:23 (eight years ago)
― maura
for that matter i apologize for bringing up million dollar extreme, i wouldn't have mentioned it if i had any inkling that it would lead to this
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:27 (eight years ago)
It's ok. I think we'll recover from this y'all.
― Treeship, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:28 (eight years ago)
“Thank you President Trump for your honesty & courage to tell the truth about #thatistheplan,” Mr. Duke said in a Twitter post.
― Evan, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:32 (eight years ago)
is there a good critical thread for the whole tim & eric/adult swim/surreal/nothing matters humor thing? it is kind of an epidemic. maybe there is talk about it on an adult swim thread. i'm not trying to start anything here. or maybe a good article?
― scott seward, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:32 (eight years ago)
I'd be up for starting a thread on old episodes of Transformers and Thundercats.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:33 (eight years ago)
What about it?
xp
― Evan, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:34 (eight years ago)
it's always a good thing to take down those in power doing evil shit, fuckin idiots.
― kurt schwitterz, Friday, 6 October 2017 17:42 (eight years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftU5GfORvH8
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:46 (eight years ago)
al: Taking sides: Transformers Vs. Thundercats
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:47 (eight years ago)
Milo before one of his college appearance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umU8vKRNnRw
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 October 2017 17:52 (eight years ago)
well if you think that matters let me tell you about the fanbase of a show called My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
that said putting such a character at the center of your show is definitely what leads to having some shitty fans, nearly all of the real toxic shit that comes out this seems to come from people who identify with Rick. which is like SP fans who think Cartman is the hero. disclaimer I have actually only watched one full episode of this show. sorry to disappoint
― frogbs, Friday, 6 October 2017 18:02 (eight years ago)
idk but it's kind of interesting that some of these guys have felt the need to "come out" strongly as anti-Trump/alt-right because they would up inadvertently cultivating the wrong fanbase. Tim Heidecker doing political humor is not something I would've anticipated in 2015
― frogbs, Friday, 6 October 2017 18:03 (eight years ago)
rick & morty is good. not adventure time good, but good.
― scott seward, Friday, 6 October 2017 18:04 (eight years ago)
all these cartoons kinda remind me of each other. steven universe. uncle grandpa. i blame chowder. or flapjack. all shows i like!
― scott seward, Friday, 6 October 2017 18:05 (eight years ago)
the adult swimification of the world and the internet is something else though. chowder gone sour.
― scott seward, Friday, 6 October 2017 18:06 (eight years ago)
I can't believe nobody did a "new borad description" joke with this one
― El Tomboto, Friday, 6 October 2017 18:08 (eight years ago)
I was off-put Rick and Morty for a long time cos I don't much care for Adult Swim vibe
― pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 October 2017 18:10 (eight years ago)
is there a good critical thread for the whole tim & eric/adult swim/surreal/nothing matters humor thing? it is kind of an epidemic. maybe there is talk about it on an adult swim thread. i'm not trying to start anything here. or maybe a good article?idk but it's kind of interesting that some of these guys have felt the need to "come out" strongly as anti-Trump/alt-right because they would up inadvertently cultivating the wrong fanbase. Tim Heidecker doing political humor is not something I would've anticipated in 2015
― frogbs, Friday, October 6, 2017 11:03 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
tim heidecker has been portraying a satirical conservative fictional version of himself on on on cinema since 2012
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 6 October 2017 18:12 (eight years ago)
was watching patton oswalt hillbilly show and i thought it was kinda weird that he was doing an adult swim version of a mr. show sketch. i mean it wasn't THAT weird. but he's not a young man anymore.
― scott seward, Friday, 6 October 2017 18:13 (eight years ago)