Backstreet JellyPOLL: ILM Van Morrison Poll Discussion Thread

the new one (keep me singing) is good too but not sure anything that would crack a list

always bring this one out — might be my favorite Van deep cut:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_YMPV3Y8sk

i like this one off Magic Time, Van and lions are a good combo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_gPYg6ZT4Y

Tyler OTM about Contemplation Rose. Not Supposed To Break Down also highly recommended.

Would be really hard to narrow down to 30 cuts just from Van in the 70s.

BTW - Are live versions (particularly stuff from It's Too Late to Stop Now and also "Caravan" from The Last Waltz) eligible or only studio stuff?

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i mean i'll leave this up to kornruelz but i think it'd be best to fold live versions into a song's total points, while noting a certain no. of ppl voted for a specific live performance in parentheses or something)

BTW - Are live versions (particularly stuff from It's Too Late to Stop Now and also "Caravan" from The Last Waltz) eligible or only studio stuff?

Similar to how it was done on Talking Heads poll, I'll combine live and studio together. So if you vote for Caravan from Last Waltz, just specifiy it and I'll note all the live versions receiving votes during the rollout.

I'll be giving this a vote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_X5M_bWNIY

"good craic (an Irish term for conversation)"

I hate to be pedantic Brad but "craic" generally means fun times and joviality

i'll definitely forward it to my editor two years ago

iirc i took that definition from wikipedia but at some point the adjectives i employed before "conversation" ("jovial"? was potentially one of them) got deleted, idk

Oh man I am not enjoying Wavelength at all.

xpost Love me some Into the Music from the following year. What's up with Wavelength?

"Wavelength" is kinda poor. I was listening to "Common One" earlier and I think it's Top 5 quality

I agree, Wavelength is dull, but Into the Music is a real return to form, especially the first side. Apart from the odd track, the 80s were not good - plodding, repetitive, predictable. For deep '70s cuts, I would single out You're My Woman from Tupelo Honey, Snow in St Anselmo and Wild Children from Hard Nose the Highway, I've Been Working from Street Choir, the title track of St Dominic's Preview and Into the Mystic from Moondance. Veedon Fleece is just about perfect. The real high points, for me, are the transitions from Linden Arden Stole the Highlights into the falsetto of Who Was the Masked Man, and his vocal delivery on You Don't Pull No Punches. Check out the strings and flue arrangement on that track too.

flute, not flue, there are no musical chimneys

"Craic" is fake Irish of course. To be even more pedantic .

I'm going to be even more pedantic now. Van is from Ulster - Ulster Scots, if you prefer, though I don't - and 'craic' or, more properly, 'crack' would have meant conversation/chat to someone from his background, though it's possible he's using it in its more modern Irish form.

oh god now i'm reliving my research on that piece lol

Yes, ignore all that and get into the music instead, doyouseewhatididthere...

the second side of into the music where all the songs blend into each other exquisite, especially in fall

er.. is exquisite*

y'all...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMf-0OuUy9k

One of my very favorite songs of his is Wonderful Remark, from the King of Comedy film and his ubiquitous greatest hits CD from the late 80s.

There's a longer version of Wonderful Remark on the Philosopher's Stone compilation, but IMHO you can't beat the 80s one.

that was a wonderful remark kornrulez

Circa 1991, I taped (off the radio) a King Biscuit live show from the Wavelength era. It was among my very favorite tapes. An aging boombox ate it for lunch a few years later. Nowadays, when I chance to hear anything from that album, I mourn for that lost cassette. I don't know if it's available and I confess I haven't looked much. But I recall that "Wavelength," "Kingdom Hall," and "Checkin' It Out" were uberclassic in that performance.

"Wonderful Remark" is essential imo.

so is "Cleaning Windows."

Question for Van heads: in that lost live "Wavelength" he does this thing of calling out random numbers, to immense crowd satisfaction. I never knew what was going on.

One can hear this also in "Cleaning Windows." Does it refer, like, to specific horn breaks? Seats in the audience? WTF?

Okay I figgered out that I was thinking of the long interlude in "Caravan" from this Bottom Line show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApC0ZnMpWhc

Listen at 54:20 or so. There's a bunch of ad lib and some numbers and I... still don't get it. Surely this is A Thing.

I love this one, horn parts at the end are sublime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ln-H2HV6o0

^^^ yep

i have no idea how i'm going to do this

Every time you find yet another '90s album in your collection, take a shot.

hymns to the silence is wonderful if a little uneven. even a sense of wonder which imo is prob his least good '80s record has the really lovely title track

Another 80s tune to check out: Higher Than The World.

This is going to be a fascinating poll. Prob lots of tunes that make it onto the countdown with only a few votes.

i really love this little tribute to van's san francisco of the mind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxB2Gbkv-mo

"A Period of Transition" is unfairly maligned. This tune is so classic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riqzRE6St_8

This is going to be a fascinating poll. Prob lots of tunes that make it onto the countdown with only a few votes.

Yes. I don't think we're going to get a ton of ballots for this.

I'll just set up a few sock accounts and "want a danish" is going to run the table.

Also it's been ages since I've heard the 80's version but my recollection is that the Philosopher's Stone "Wonderful Remark" wipes the floor with the rerecording.

I can see by the look on your face.....thats you've got ring worm

It's a very common disease.

if anyone needs a guide to the '80s and early '90s van records i wrote one a few years ago http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/astral-years-a-seekers-guide-to-van-morrison-in-the-80-1700003646🕸

Excellent piece brad

Thanks, that's a fantastic blog. Van's 80s were better than he gets credit for. How about the 90s? The Healing Game is good, but I haven't heard much else.

I'll have to dig out the recording of his Glastonbury set in 86 which I saw. Some great performances: no guru, full force gale, iirc summertime in England

"Have I Told You Lately" is lazy writing but I LOVE "Why Must I Always Explain."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTN06FiglEE

sorry i thought the thread needed more high kicks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdZLTnRnHs8

Fully intend to vote in this - I'm a fairly casual fan but I'm slowly going through Brad's '80s picks and the stuff mentioned here, already discovered some great songs (some of which are not at all what I'd expect from any era of Van Morrison).

Found the 87 Glastonbury recording. Awesome.

Lots of great live Van up on YouTube. Here are a few full concerts.

Montreaux 1980
Winterland 1974
Pacific High Studio 1971
Ulster Hall with the Chieftains 1988

Hope everyone had a great weekend listening to plenty of Van.

...and/or "Moondance"--I was amazed to discover it wasn't a single since it was such a radio staple.

/kornrulez is there a time cut-off tomorrow (2nd Aug)? I'm on GMT./

Officially the cutoff 12:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, August 3. That's 6 hours behind GMT. But I'm not going to be able to check the ballots until around 9am August 3.

Great thanks i will be sending my ballot tonight.

I'm almost done!

I'm being lazy but does someone have a link to the Glastonbury set?

will send at noon PST

sent

Holy mackerel, this thing is going to be close. If you haven't voted, please do so. Your ballot will decide the winner fer sure.

Sent.

Holy mackerel, this thing is going to be close. If you haven't voted, please do so. Your ballot will decide the winner fer sure.

Coming soon. With a coat so old. In the garden. With the leaves all wet with rain.

I'm almost done!

I'm being lazy but does someone have a link to the Glastonbury set?

I don't know how ilx mail works but I could help

I VOTED! (NO FAKE NEWS)

waiting for the rollout to start is a form of suffering so fine

^dwelling on the threshold

I'm trying hard to make this whole thing blend.

Rollout begins tomorrow for sure

I'm caught one more time waiting

Kornrulez it will come through

Sent!

this is exciting

turn it up!

Kornrulez it will come through

― wtev,

Did I get your ballot, wtev? The Caravan is packing up and ready to move.

/Kornrulez it will come through

― wtev,/

Did I get your ballot, wtev? The Caravan is packing up and ready to move.

Yes you emailed me last night at 2.27 Manchester time

Sorry my earlier post was written while I was listening to summertime in England. /a man who comes through/

OK so we are done.

22 ballots.
16 albums.
154 songs.
Lots of surprises to come.

Yes!

http://i.imgur.com/fg8RYPw.jpg

Just testing that out. Apologies for the crude art direction.

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