Linden Arden POLL the Highlights--ILM Van Morrison Poll Results

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Here we go...

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 15:45 (two years ago) link

22 ballots.
16 albums.
154 songs.

Albums first.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 15:46 (two years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/shqtYOI.jpg

Hard Nose the Highway
Tied for 12th place
One vote, 28 points

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 15:48 (two years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/5D0TB7C.jpg

T.B. Sheets
Tied for 12th place
One vote, 28 points

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 15:54 (two years ago) link

just a guy with a guitar in his apartment feelin mad about the music business

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 3 August 2017 15:55 (two years ago) link

Here's a surprise...

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 15:57 (two years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/zvoTE3k.jpg

Tupelo Honey
Tied for 12th place
One vote, 28 points

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 15:59 (two years ago) link

just a lady on a horse goin for a walk with a guy who's mad at the music business

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:01 (two years ago) link

Is there a worse Van lyric than this bit from Old Old Woodstock?

And my woman's waiting
By the kitchen door
I'm driving along
In my old beat up car

Ford, Van. Ford rhymes so much better with door!

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:09 (two years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/ymToaOq.jpg

Enlightenment
Tied for 11th place
One vote, 30 points

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:20 (two years ago) link

whoa!

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:22 (two years ago) link

great record

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:22 (two years ago) link

a surprise

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:26 (two years ago) link

Next one was the biggest revelation for me. I hadn't heard it until this poll, and it's fantastic.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:27 (two years ago) link

gotta be Common One

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:28 (two years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/XfjptVi.jpg

No Guru, No Method, No Teacher
Tied for 11th place
One vote, 30 points

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:29 (two years ago) link

i guess i was the only one vote for no guru. like an older, wiser, gentler veedon fleece

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:31 (two years ago) link

Yes. I'm not sure it would have cracked my top 5, but I do really love this record now.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:35 (two years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/J3Xp1PP.jpg

Avalon Sunset
Tied for 11th place
One vote, 30 points

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:36 (two years ago) link

a much better record than i remembered, really enjoyed revisiting it for the poll

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:36 (two years ago) link

"contacting my angel" is a+ drifting spiritual van

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:36 (two years ago) link

Oh man I messed that up already. That will be the first of many...

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:37 (two years ago) link

Correction

http://i.imgur.com/uMURN99.jpg

Avalon Sunset
Tied for 10th place
One vote, 33 points

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:39 (two years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/YQ67HKd.jpg

The Angry Young Them
Tied for 10th place
One vote, 33 points

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:43 (two years ago) link

That was the last of the ties, and albums with just one vote.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:48 (two years ago) link

oh i did not know them was eligible! not sure it would have changed my albums ballot tho

i think common one is gonna place way higher on ilm than it would anywhere else

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:49 (two years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/abJjJAX.jpg

Irish Heartbeat
9th place
Two votes, 71 points

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:50 (two years ago) link

unbelievably gorgeous album that i didn't vote for no. 1

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:56 (two years ago) link

I nearly voted no guru. the title track live in 1990-ish was IMMENSE for me.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:57 (two years ago) link

i think common one is gonna place way higher on ilm than it would anywhere else

not sure if true but I don't know one Van Morrison head who doesn't rank it high

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:57 (two years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/KwJ0Lnb.jpg


His Band and the Street Choir
8th place
Six votes, 191 points

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:00 (two years ago) link

whoa

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:03 (two years ago) link

When an album as strong as Street Choir is only considered your 8th best, you know you're good.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:04 (two years ago) link

going to enjoy this rollout, I'm a Van fan but i admit that i don't know much of his music beyond some early cuts and Astral Weeks/Moondance/Tupelo Honey -- the latter of which is the one i listen to the most, kinda surprised and intrigued by its low placement here.

nomar, Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:06 (two years ago) link

really love Irish Heartbeat too

nomar, Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:06 (two years ago) link

i was weirded out by the low placement of tupelo honey as well, but i didn't vote for it so lol

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:07 (two years ago) link

yeah i almost feel bad but you can only pick 5!

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:11 (two years ago) link

Yes. If it was a top ten albums, I think Tupelo would have fared better. It's safe to say that domesticated Woodstock lover man Van is not ILM's favorite.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:12 (two years ago) link

Mild shocker ahead...

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:13 (two years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/EZ6lLEI.jpg

Into the Music
7th place
7 votes, 200 points

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:14 (two years ago) link

big vote jump with the last two

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:18 (two years ago) link

into the music is perfect from start to finish

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:19 (two years ago) link

Yes. I included every album that got votes.

I figured Into The Music would be higher.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:21 (two years ago) link

yeah, figured top 5 for sure

Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:22 (two years ago) link

Without giving too much away, Into The Music is probably not weird enough for ILM Van voters.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:26 (two years ago) link

idk man those last two tracks are p weird

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:27 (two years ago) link

i almost voted "steppin' out queen" as my no. 1 track bc it's just a perfectly-arranged, everything-in-its-right-place van song

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:28 (two years ago) link

yeah "you know" is v weird

Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:28 (two years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/iZXgDPh.jpg

It's Too Late To Stop Now
6th place
8 votes, one #1
277 points

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:29 (two years ago) link

way too low, best live album i've ever heard

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:29 (two years ago) link

an odd thing I noticed a while back is how "St Dominic's Preview" kinda borrows the tune of "The Wind Cries Mary," and "Bulbs" swipes the line about the streetlights turning blue.

JoeStork, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 04:47 (two years ago) link

That was brilliant, thank you.

Spotify playlist is all up to date: https://open.spotify.com/user/thepoacher/playlist/5DPeJd4pUzQMIQMBvzvU9M

My ballot:

Albums

Astral Weeks
Too Late to Stop Now
Veedon Fleece
St Dominic's Preview
Moondance

Tracks

Madam George
Ballerina
Into the Mystic
Summertime in England
St Dominic's Preview
Cyprus Avenue
And it Stoned Me
Redwood Tree
Listen to the Lion
Sweet Thing
The Way Young Lovers Do
Glad Tidings
Tir Na Nog
Astral Weeks
TB Sheets
Contemplation Rose
Fair Play
Wavelength
Almost Independence Day
Gloria
Brown-Eyed Girl
Take Me Back
Caravan
Steppin Out Queen
And the Healing Has Begun

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 08:42 (two years ago) link

yeah thanks for running this, it's been a spiritual journey

niels, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 09:55 (two years ago) link

(slightly O/T but just to reiterate w/thanks: as a former van sceptic of many puzzled years' standing, brad's essay on 80s VM has totally and i assume permanently swung me into the mancamp) (currently loving the weird buzzy instruments on COMMON ONE, which i choose to believe are druidic vuvuzelas)

(obviously POLLS are still bad and you should all feel bad)

mark s, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 10:23 (two years ago) link

"druidic vuvuzelas" is excellent; thank you mark s for providing me with my next band name

bergoglio imbroglio (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 13:24 (two years ago) link

I'm so glad everyone enjoyed this. Like the best ILM polls, I discovered a ton of great new music here, like the No Guru album and the absolutely fantastic song Goin Down To Monte Carlo (Thanks Joan Crawford Loves Chachi)

I can't believe I'm the only one who voted for Satisfied. It sticks out on Common One, but it's really incredible.

My ballot:

Saint Dominic’s Preview
Astral Weeks
Almost Independence Day
And It Stoned Me
Sweet Thing
Wild Night
Domino
Wonderful Remark
Cyprus Avenue
And the Healing Has Begun
Gloria
Into the Mystic
Slim Slow Slider
Ballerina
Listen to the Lion
Linden Arden Stole the Highlights
Real Real Gone
TB Sheets
Celtic Ray
Moonshine Whiskey
Brown-Eyed Girl
Caravan
I’ve Been Working
Streets of Arklow
Full Force Gale
Jackie Wilson Said
Satisfied
Goin Down To Monte Carlo
You Know What They’re Writing About
Moondance


Albums:
Dominic
Astral
Moondance
Into the Music
Band Street Choir

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 13:48 (two years ago) link

the poll results spotify thread is a really enjoyable listen

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:21 (two years ago) link

I want to think this thread for getting me to listen to Van again. Im high af right now and Astral Weeks is kicking my ass. Years since Ive heard it as a teen and I did not get it then at all. It took intervening years of listening to jazz, now it makes sense. Some of the songs have an almost symphonic structure as well. Veedon Fleece also rules. You ppl rule. Thanks for this thread.

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 21:44 (two years ago) link

I hadn't listened to Astral Weeks in many years either and... yeah, it is overwhelming.

jmm, Thursday, 10 August 2017 00:18 (two years ago) link

Got my hands on the Glastonbury set. Holy shit what a band. I've mostly avoided boots, and now I'm wondering at my stupidity. Are there any other obvious Van ones I should get?

Is there a 'best boots of evah!' thread somewhere?

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, 12 August 2017 16:05 (two years ago) link

this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y-CsUw_-AY

Number None, Saturday, 12 August 2017 16:08 (two years ago) link

(hat tip to tylerw)

Number None, Saturday, 12 August 2017 16:08 (two years ago) link

Definitely get the Pacific High Studio set. And if you haven't gotten volumes 2, 3 and 4 from It's Too Late, by all means, pick that up as well.

that's not my post, Saturday, 12 August 2017 19:49 (two years ago) link

xps to Chinaski

Your favourite bootleg -as in 'Unofficial Live Recording-

sleeve, Sunday, 13 August 2017 01:49 (two years ago) link

Watching this 74 Van Morrison show and he covers Dylan's "Just Like A Woman" and after "please don't let on that you knew me when" instead of "I was hungry and it was your world" he mutters "I was weird.... everybody was....." Van the Man #1

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 03:12 (two years ago) link

In the '71 Pacific High Studio version of "Just Like A Woman" (which, after a slow first 3 minutes, really gets intense) on the second time the "please don't..." line comes up he says "I was weird... and you were weird, too." Van must have liked that spin.

that's not my post, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 04:35 (two years ago) link

an odd thing I noticed a while back is how "St Dominic's Preview" kinda borrows the tune of "The Wind Cries Mary," and "Bulbs" swipes the line about the streetlights turning blue.

― JoeStork, Monday, August 7, 2017 9:47 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

will never unhear this now

Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 04:42 (two years ago) link

lol yeah the verse chords are the same in wind cries mary and st. dominic.

I can't be the only person who thinks of Wish You Were Here when listening to Almost Independence Day (of course in this case, van's version came first)

rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 11:59 (two years ago) link

In the '71 Pacific High Studio version of "Just Like A Woman" (which, after a slow first 3 minutes, really gets intense) on the second time the "please don't..." line comes up he says "I was weird... and you were weird, too." Van must have liked that spin.

― that's not my post, Monday, August 14, 2017 11:35 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha that's funny, it seemed so off the cuff

there's really a great amount of well shot full Van concerts on YouTube

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 14:18 (two years ago) link

yeah, it's nice -- for a while there his people were super vigilant about scrubbing any/all vids ...

tylerw, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 14:24 (two years ago) link

Man, just listened to Into the Music properly for the first ever, probably. Dexys entire career for a start, but more.
I saw Van maybe 20 times, work related, between 1988-2000ish. I know most of those 80s records from seeing him live, must pick up No Guru, Poetic Champs etc.

Fine Toothcomb (sonofstan), Monday, 21 August 2017 22:01 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

born to sing: no plan b is just the loveliest record. the horns are so wonderful

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 22 September 2017 15:25 (two years ago) link

but does no plan b refer to born, sing, or both

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 22 September 2017 18:24 (two years ago) link

who knows, at least a third of the record is a critique of capitalism so

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 22 September 2017 18:25 (two years ago) link

because of this poll back on top and the healing game are now two of my absolute favorite van records

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 22 September 2017 23:07 (two years ago) link

you check out magic time?
that was one that grew on me when I was listening to them all on Spotify

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 September 2017 23:12 (two years ago) link

yeah magic time is great, especially "just like greta" which is overwhelming

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 September 2017 14:26 (two years ago) link

less a definitive ranking than maybe a potentially useful order for people trying to get into van's '90s records:

the healing game
enlightenment
back on top
hymns to the silence
days like this
too long in exile

the first five are basically all variously great, days like this ends with two of van's best songs ever. too long in exile is a real mess though, maybe my least favorite van record ever, and yet the title track is still so awesome

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 September 2017 16:25 (two years ago) link

i always feel like i underrate keep me singing when i'm listening to it bc the first five tracks are all so gorgeous

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 25 September 2017 04:53 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Excellent. But I will always remember this poll for introducing me to No Guru...my god what an album.

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 14 October 2018 03:00 (one year ago) link

you inspire me to check the wavelength album more closely (i am sold on the song).

for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 14 October 2018 03:03 (one year ago) link

Not a great album, but with Morrison it's especially hard to distinguish mediocre from good or good from great

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 October 2018 11:19 (one year ago) link

wavelength has a great title track

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 14 October 2018 13:21 (one year ago) link

oh which has been covered, lol

alfred have you heard all of common one

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 14 October 2018 13:23 (one year ago) link

shhh I'm about to exercise while listening to "Got to Go Back."

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 October 2018 13:24 (one year ago) link

Yes! Good work with ranking Saint Dominic number one. That's my favorite.

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 14 October 2018 14:27 (one year ago) link

I need to hear Veedon Fleece. I like the rest of the top 4. Probably would have ranked Tupelo higher.

o. nate, Monday, 15 October 2018 02:07 (one year ago) link

Maybe you've addressed this elsewhere but no Moondance?

Engles in the Outfield (cryptosicko), Monday, 15 October 2018 02:23 (one year ago) link

I thought, stupidly, he released it in 1969, but it worked out because I prefer every album on my list.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 October 2018 02:24 (one year ago) link

preferring wavelength to moondance is absolute nonsense

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 15 October 2018 10:32 (one year ago) link

Alfred preferring synthy outlier to canonized classic shocker

:P

niels, Monday, 15 October 2018 12:32 (one year ago) link

Veedon Fleece is so good, one of my faves by Van.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 11:43 (one year ago) link

^agree about Veedon Fleece. Anyway, here's a great version of Bulbs from a German TV show in the mid 70s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFc7uVEYAsw

that's not my post, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 16:59 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

Jesus, I just got cut nearly in half by Tir Na Nog. I've been reading Peter Matthiesen's The Snow Leopard, which is partly a travelogue of a trek in the Himalaya to study bharal, partly a discourse on the origins of Buddhism, and partly a gentle prayer of devotion for his wife who had died the year before, and it's an incredibly moving book, full of the white light of understanding and humility. The song dovetails so neatly with those themes of finding solace in eternity (albeit from a different mythological viewpoint) and the possibilities inherent in the idea of reincarnation - let alone Van's open, enveloping deliver - it reduced me to tears. Ach.

Regard as one, this life, the next life, and the life between - Milarepa.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Friday, 5 July 2019 13:32 (four months ago) link

^Beautiful post. I read The Snow Leopard many years ago - this is making me want to revisit it. One of the great things about ILM.

that's not my post, Friday, 5 July 2019 22:45 (four months ago) link

I would like to thank this poll for turning me on to Veedon Fleece, what an album

sleeve, Friday, 5 July 2019 22:50 (four months ago) link

^^^ what sleeve said, this thread made me discover veedon fleece which by now i prefer to astral weeks.

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 6 July 2019 06:24 (four months ago) link

^^^ what sleeve said, this thread made me discover veedon fleece which by now i prefer to astral weeks.

^^^Though I would say a lot of it may be that Veedon Fleece is fresher, whereas I’ve had 20+ years with Astral Weeks.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Saturday, 6 July 2019 13:04 (four months ago) link


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