C/D: Prince's "Around the World in a Day"

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of what? SPECIFIX PLEAZE SOTO

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

"America" - sounds like "Baby I'm A Star," with unspecific lyrics. With the exception of "Sign O'The Times," I'm no fan of Prince-as-Edmund-Burke ("Ronnie, Talk To Russia"), but

"Paisley Park" - I like the calliope. Sounds too much like "Magical Mystery Tour" and "Penny Lane." He did this strawberry-lemonade and tangerine trees shit better on the next album's "Christopher Tracy's Parade" and "Life Can Be So Nice."

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

"Paisley Park" is a future-funk song and has nothing to do with drugged-out Brit-hippie music-hall wank. Listen to it again and you'll see where I'm going, even if you don't agree. You might have a point about "America" but you didn't complain when he chopped and screwed "Delirious" for "Baby I'm a Star" so you cannot complain about him rocking it up for "America."

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

If I had to make a choice I'd take all of the best tracks from Parade ("Girls and Boys," "Kiss," "Mountains") and/or most of the tracks on Sign o' the Times in preference to Around.

Not that it's not a (really) good album.

Also, I don't think "America" is a turn away from "Reagan-is-great."

These lyrics, for instance:

Communism is just a word
But if the government turn over
It'll be the only word that's heard

That's basically "Keep Ronnie, he's better than those Russkies."

― ffirehorse (firehorse), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

OTM, ffirehorse

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

sucks to have taller siblings, but this album's got things the others don't. it's weirder, spacier, further out, totally personal, couldn't care less about pleasing outside the core fan base, which was important coming off the last album

all of which is true, and none of which has anything to do with whether the album is any good or not

"Paisley Park" is a future-funk song and has nothing to do with drugged-out Brit-hippie music-hall wank

like FUCK it doesn't

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Now, now, Matos; swearing will not help you make your point.

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

haha he's not saying that just to be nasty, he sincerely wants to fuck the taste out of your mouth

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

CAN U RELATE?

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

blount you're a double-drag fool

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

"Housequake" had nothing to do w/JB funk
"Do Me Baby" had nothing to do w/sex
Tony M had nothing to do w/commercial desperation
etc.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice job taking me out of context above. My original statement was in relation to Soto saying that "Paisley Park" was a retread of "Penny Lane," which it is not. There is more psychedelic music in the world than just the Beatles, who didn't invent it anyway, ho hum, la de da. Also, nice job doing the reductio ad absurdum tango to make me look like an ass, thanks a bunch.

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Tony M had nothing to do w/commercial desperation

fuck you! I had mad skillz!

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"the future" had nothing to do with guy
"delirious" had nothing to do with john candy
"venus de milo" had nothing to do with television
"take me with u" had nothing to do with sophie's choice
"money don't matter 2night" had nothing to do with eddie money
"round and round" had nothing to do with new order
"head" had nothing to do with the monkees

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

reading it in context doesn't help any, either, Matt, so if you're trying to say something more than what I quoted, you need to elaborate.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

The beats are all wrong anyway, the Beatles were on the ones and threes, "Paisley Park" is a Sly Stone shuffle thing to my ears.

The idea of "Take Me With U" as the theme song for "Sophie's Choice" is making me really nauseous

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Matt C. and Milton P. the most on-the-money on this thread (but yeah Matt you don't have to be all anti-rockist and dog the Beatles just to defend atwiad)

All the people that diss it but shot all the people that like it the most off-the-money

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

didn't he record atwiad pretty much immediately after purple rain, like before purple rain was released even? it seems like i'd heard that

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

here's a statement I'll regret making, later, but am only pretty much doing it for (minor) humor value.

Q. How are the Beatles like Jesus?
A. They're just all right, to me.

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

JB: yes, it's in that Alex Hahn book

MC: so is what you're saying that your not caring that much for the Beatles = that song doesn't ape them in any way? because that's an awful lot what it looks like

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

also, when did "drugged-out Brit-hippie music-hall wank" = the Beatles exclusively? no one else said it did.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm pretty sure this was the 2nd record (after Powerslave) I was so excited about I made my mom drive me to the record store to buy it on the day it was released. I wasn't disappointed, I thought it was awesome. The only song I didn't like at the time was "Condition of the HEart", I used to fast-forward the walkman through that one (producing that squeely high-sound, but it wasn't too harsh becuz there weren't no drums on the track) but you know, I was just a kid.

Last time I played the album I loved all of it, although "Temptation" sure does sound goofy.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

bet used to show that live clip of "america" alot

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost to Matos:

Again, I was responding to Alfred Soto talking about the Beatles.

And, again, I was only making a little joke that occured to me. ("Little" = "Microscopic") I have never heard Lennon/McCartney much in Prince's psychedelia, more like Love and Sly and Beach Boys. But hey I could be wrong, what the fuck.

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

there's all of those for sure, but the Beatles are certainly in there too. anyone who's listened to classic rock radio (specifically KQRS in Mpls, which Prince listened to as a kid when it was a progressive station) knows it favors the Beatles to Love and the Beach Boys.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

well, yeah, that's true. and I'm not saying he never heard the Beatles. what I AM saying is that I never hear the specific influence of them all that much in Prince songs.

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, it's there all right

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

well okay then, you're the expert

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

dude, read the Per Nilsen book--Wendy and Lisa and Alan Leeds talk about it very specifically

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

YEAH MATT

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I kind of can't see how there isn't a heavy Lennon influence on the song "Paisley Park"; in fact, that's one of the main things that makes it so awesome.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

i still think this album felt pretty ubiquitous when it came out, despite lack of Purple Rain-ian megahit flurry, but maybe that's just cuz I was playing it a ton. and yeah, DB otm upthread when he talks about all the other extended family things coming out at the time. like Sheila E.'s Romance 1600 came out around the same time, and it felt like an extension of this album's aesthetic; "A Love Bizarre" would have fit right in on atwiad

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I like this album, tho yeah I usually skip Condition of the Heart and find America's lyrics to be soooo silly (but what an otherwise great song!). Unjustly maligned, this one is.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

"Condition Of The Heart" is maybe in the top 25 of Prince songs.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Purple Rain : Pet Sounds :: Around the World in a Day : Smiley Smile

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

shit, matos, if I had time to read books I wouldn't be screwing around here!

and Stormy OTM about Sheila E and that's not just a reacharound

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

(That arpeggio up through a major seventh at the beginning of each verse of "COTH" = BRILLIANCE)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not as big a fan of Jamie Starr Inc. '85 as I am of '84, by a lot, but that's really a matter of degree. So is my dislike for Around the World, which isn't a terrible album by any means, but a really uneven and notably uninspired one--he's clearly reaching for what came to fruition on Parade and isn't quite there yet, whereas Parade has it ALL there.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

The only song I don't particularly like on Around The World In A Day is the title track.. but only in today's context, because it seems like a foreshadowing of Lovesexy, or the overall feel of that album, which to me symbolizes the beginning of Prince's big dip into the era of bland NPG sherbert, creatively speaking.

― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember liking the title track's melody okay

xpost

yeah it's a mess, totally thrown off, bits of it careless, not as masterful as Parade, we know we know

you are no fun at all matos. you sound like someone complaining about bad head.

― milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

though I think in the long run we're all basically in agreement, you're just being a hardass

this album came out nine months after Rain, it was like an extra, it happened so fast it didn't even feel like a followup, just a promise that he wasn't going to let the fame get to him. and the fact that it was so tossed off, personal and fans-only was a straight up relief. judging it so harshly seems like a real ROCK CRITIC thing to do, when I know you're a total hardcore fan

― milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

yep, you nailed me there (cough) (xpost)

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

parade is awful. im sayin it. ATWIAD is very inconsistent, but has some pretty great shit on it. raspberry beret, pop life, paisley park, tambourine, the ladder, condition of the heart, title track - all really great. parade is thin, flat, and the melodies are boring. nowhere near the sonic or melodic quality of SOTT, or the earlier stuff. i mean, ok. "kiss" is a good song. but i could never get into any other songs on that whole album. so ill take half-baked over a-bad-recipe-cooked-twice.

― peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

wait a second, I'm not supposed to be judgmental about musicians I like? sorry, not swallowing that one at all.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

you are no fun at all matos. you sound like someone complaining about bad head.
.....

though I think in the long run we're all basically in agreement, you're just being a hardass

Heavens, Milton! You know A LOT more about Matos than me, I guess. ;-)

― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry, not swallowing that one at all.

-- Matos-Webster Dictionary (michaelangelomato...), March 1st, 2005.

― The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll second that - Parade has its moments (Mountain, Kiss, Christopher Tracy's Parade) but it seems kinda limpid to me. I've never really been grabbed by it. ATWIAD, on the other hand, always keeps my interest, even when its being completely fucking ridiculous.

(no one likes my Beach Boys analogy = U ALL R GAY! *choke* sob)

x-post

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

parade is awful.

PUT THE CRACK-PIPE DOWN

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

oh ill put it down all right. put it down FOREVER.

― peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Stop acting like a hard luscious ass, Dan. It's someone just gave you a horrible nibbly blow job..

*ahem*

― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

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imago— Definitely check out the b-sides from this album: 'She's Always In My Hair' (which is an absolutely classic song, full stop), 'Girl', and 'Hello.' There's also the twenty minute (no, really) version of 'America.'

― he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Saturday, 19 August 2017 17:43 (eight years ago)

Oh cool!

Yeah this was awesome. Didn't even falter in Side B, although I'm not sure the opener isn't my favourite track

― imago, Saturday, 19 August 2017 18:27 (eight years ago)

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