Huh - don't remember that one at all! Not bad at all.
The vocal effect is closer to like a Zapp synth talkbox thing, right? Seems like it was in circulation a lot in that era, most obviously with Roger Troutman coming back to sing the "California Love" hook.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 7 September 2012 03:17 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dY4KjMdMVE
― clijster flockhart (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 7 September 2012 03:53 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Obkkxng-0g
― clijster flockhart (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 7 September 2012 03:59 (thirteen years ago)
SR-71 is 2000, but not a bad song. The Marvelous 3 one never really hit home with me, okay hook but seemed kinda by-the-numbers.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 7 September 2012 04:11 (thirteen years ago)
idk they both seem pretty damn by-the-numbers!
― clijster flockhart (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 7 September 2012 04:19 (thirteen years ago)
71 and 3, to be precise
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 7 September 2012 04:21 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t0NILJQN-8
― clijster flockhart (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 7 September 2012 04:25 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0yYCqkt0VE
― clijster flockhart (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 7 September 2012 04:27 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIANBamMgas
Nine Days and "Is Anybody Home" are also 2000! Although feel-wise, they're there. Stroke 9 pretty much qualifies I think.
Once again, I plug: Defend The Indefensible: "Absolutely (Story of A Girl)" by Nine Days
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 7 September 2012 04:31 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKtUrS6QTOo
― clijster flockhart (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 7 September 2012 04:32 (thirteen years ago)
Dude EVERYONE knows the late 90's lasted til like 2002
― clijster flockhart (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 7 September 2012 04:33 (thirteen years ago)
hahaha, yeah, yeah, I know. There was a strong case made on the "song that represents the end of the 90s" thread (I think?) that there should be a "transitional period" covering like 98 or 99 to 02 as kind of its own thing, sonically and aesthetically. I pretty much buy that, it's an era without its name in both pop and rock and as I think I said before it has some weird parallels to the post-Cannibals, Positive Vibes era.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 7 September 2012 04:35 (thirteen years ago)
here is how it breaks down in my mind:
The 90's - 1988-1997The Late 90's - 1998-2002The 2000's - 2002-2010, etc.
― clijster flockhart (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 7 September 2012 04:40 (thirteen years ago)
I think I've assembled this list of threads before, recently, but it bears repeating, as I believe one of ILX's signature projects in 2012 is hashing out a new discourse of Late 90s Radio Rock Studies:
The song that represents the END of the 90s
^^^ transitional period gets put forth, discussed
Modern Rock #1 Hits of 2000Modern Rock #1 Hits of 1999
^^^ similar topics get worked over, particularly with regard to what pop-rock records sounded like in this era - it's a certain, very distinctive production aesthetic that kind of creeped in somewhere between 96 and 99 and made everything almost totally unlistenable, simultaneously polished and crunchy with lots of goofy crap going on in the background. see also the languishing:
top 100 production tricks of the 90s
btw, I totally dig "It's Saturday," but I'm a Marcy Playground stan: Marcy Playground: Classic or dud?
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 7 September 2012 04:51 (thirteen years ago)
Also why do ALL MODERN ROCK VIDEOS from this era have the band playing in a really crowded room w/ everyone else *totally rawking out*?
― clijster flockhart (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 7 September 2012 04:59 (thirteen years ago)
meanwhile, just now realizing how many damned singles Collective Soul put out between '95 and '00...pretty sure at least 2/3 of them qualify for this thread.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 7 September 2012 05:03 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLQ2TIul8pI
― clijster flockhart (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 7 September 2012 05:19 (thirteen years ago)
THEY SAY MISERY LOVES COMPANYWE CAN START A COMPANY AND MAKE MISERY
mid-98 until 2001 was def its own separate era of pop culture.. however that doesn't mean you can simply lump all of this together as "part of the 90's"
― billstevejim, Friday, 7 September 2012 07:18 (thirteen years ago)
"is anybody home" (the video and single) was 2000 but the prior single from that album "one man army" was late 1999 (although the album was '99 so technically both songs are 90s)
― billstevejim, Friday, 7 September 2012 07:20 (thirteen years ago)
confession: I owned the CD single of "Is Anybody Home?" It really is a good fit for this thread I think. Nowhere near the exposure/buzz that "Clumsy" and "Superman's Dead" had. Maybe it was a weaker song or maybe it's once again that shift in modern rock radio.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 7 September 2012 12:50 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGgTPAbsaGo
"This sounds like a Pepsi commercial" - my friend, at the time
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 7 September 2012 13:10 (thirteen years ago)
See also: "Precious Declaration" and "Tremble For My Beloved." "Heavy" and "Run" were maybe high-profile enough that they live on in the, uh, collective memory, even if I haven't heard either one in eons.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 7 September 2012 13:14 (thirteen years ago)
xxp really?? I always thought "Is Anybody Home?" was their huge hit
― clijster flockhart (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 7 September 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)
nah it's at most their 5th biggest US hit, and US radio only remembers 3 or 4 of their songs
― IN REAL LIFE (some dude), Friday, 7 September 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)
god, all i remember about Collective Soul is "Shine."
sometimes i'm glad i hid under a rock after 96 or so.
― for reasons of sass (the table is the table), Friday, 7 September 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)
Rusty - "Groovy Dead"
This song rocks! What happened to them?!
― Poliopolice, Friday, 7 September 2012 19:56 (thirteen years ago)
Also "Hitchhiker Joe" by the Rugburns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W88bat_dkm8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5x_ikFpqz0
― Poliopolice, Friday, 7 September 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)
Hitchhiker Joe is so goddamn catchy. Now that I hear it again, it may be singlehandedly responsible for Fountains of Wayne.
― Poliopolice, Friday, 7 September 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)
Do most Americans remember Big Wreck? They were big in Canada and I was surprised to learn that some of their songs were modest hits in the US:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuhzlSQovxc
― MarkoP, Friday, 7 September 2012 21:27 (thirteen years ago)
Ahh, it looks like they were mentioned earlier.
― MarkoP, Friday, 7 September 2012 21:28 (thirteen years ago)
Wow, Hitchhiker Joe...don't think I've ever heard that before, pretty damned catchy!
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 8 September 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)
(It's '94, though, and very much an early 90s sound IMO - compare to, e.g., "New Age Girl" by Deadeye Dick - Classic or Dud? - which I think is sorta pushing it...what's the consensus?)
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 8 September 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVg5_gCeBRQ
Sprung Monkey - Get 'Em Outta Here (1998)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjBwe6IL10o
Sneaker Pimps - Spin Spin Sugar (1998/99, followup to "6 Underground")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX5qtSzcZ0A
Luscious Jackson - Ladyfingers (1999, an album after "Naked Eye")
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 23 September 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)
weirdly, that last one sends my brain directly to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM4uwLTiDPU
Lisa Loeb - I Do (1997 - still hear this from time to time)
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 23 September 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)
"I Do" had a surprisingly long shelf life--I still hear it in grocery stores and casual dining restaurants.
― 50 Shades of Griel (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 23 September 2012 22:10 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah, it's definitely a grocery store song - - weird. Peaked at #17 on Billboard...but it got to #3 on the "Adult Top 40" chart which might be a secret gateway into grocery store heaven.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 23 September 2012 22:29 (thirteen years ago)
o wow i didn't know it was that big a hit initially, i just remember it as a 'failed followup' i actually liked, always thought she was a fox. still hear it on occasion on magic 102, it's definitely in that recurrent top 40 that's made its way onto adult contemporary where it will stay in the playlists until it's simply outdated. btw pfork gave that loeb album an 8.8 - http://web.archive.org/web/20010707042005/pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/l/loeb_lisa/firecracker.shtml
― balls, Sunday, 23 September 2012 22:37 (thirteen years ago)
I'd heard the poppy single "I Do" on the radio, but I couldn't make myself get the album. It's kind of like how Bailey can't get too close to the booze on "Party of Five," lest he relapse into his alcoholism.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 23 September 2012 22:41 (thirteen years ago)
hahahaha this has to be some clever hack of archive.org
And so I was talking to Beverly on the phone tonight. I casually mentioned that I'd gotten the new Lisa Loeb CD, and as far as I could tell, no eyebrows were raised. She doesn't know about me and Lisa, about what we used to have. I hung up the phone and turned on the TV and caught the tail end of "I Do" on VH-1... the part where she's squirming around on pink shag carpeting, not wearing any pants.Here we go again.
Here we go again.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 23 September 2012 22:42 (thirteen years ago)
woah i had totally forgotten about this one, five years before 'i'll be there for you' and technically a bigger hit (#14 vs #17). this isn't bad, second tier crowded house - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmjQVoHrXe0
― balls, Sunday, 23 September 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)
Hey guys, remember when Seven Mary Three went Country Rock?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUGXzs5E7kM
― 50 Shades of Griel (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 23 September 2012 23:54 (thirteen years ago)
No!
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 24 September 2012 00:04 (thirteen years ago)
The playlist is really giving me more time with ones that I probably checked out when they first got shoutouts in this thread but which I didn't really absorb - and man. "Hopeless" is pretty great. The R&B version of "Bohemian Rhapsody" though is... O_o
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 00:14 (thirteen years ago)
Ha, I'm sure I said this upthread, but it's the first version I ever heard! It was totally trying to capitalize on the success of the Fugees' cover of "Killing Me Softly" earlier that year and improbably got played on the r&b station here all that fall. I remember my cousin had the cassinle which in no way indicated they were white ladies. Wasn't until I tracked the video down on youtube that I even realized this.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 01:55 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6bHXjWZjtY
― gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 02:39 (thirteen years ago)
Guster in general. Added that and "Airport Song," which I had utterly and totally forgotten about until just now. At the time I thought it was pretty cool!
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 02:55 (thirteen years ago)
woah i had totally forgotten about this one, five years before 'i'll be there for you' and technically a bigger hit (#14 vs #17).
yeah "I'll Be There For You"'s US chart placing was a victim of Billboard's antiquated calculation method still in use at that time that combined radio airplay and physical sales of a single to determine popularity. IBTFY wasn't available as a single (or even their album until it was added to later pressings), and achieved the #17 placement on radio airplay alone.
(Billboard's charting algorithm still a mess today but that's a subject for another time and place).
― Lee626, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 07:47 (thirteen years ago)