Modern Rock #1 Hits of 1999

Lit, "My Own Worst Enemy"

this has to be the worst one so far

by a mile

xp

"Every Morning" every morning.

"Re-arranged" is the least aggro Bizkit hit and is kinda dope imo

Don't think I've heard Lit.

oh hell yes I have

Third Eye Blind clones!

voting for Lit, but yeah this is pretty gross

What a horrible year. Lit.

as is the case with many latter-day RHCP songs, "Scar Tissue" would be much better received if Anthony Kiedis could actually sing

Blink, over Lit and Sugar Ray

Small list, but one I love ("All the Small Things") and one I like a lot ("Every Morning"). Big year for me music-wise. I got my first full-time teaching job the winter before, and stopped doing Radio On that summer, so this was really the year where I drifted away from new music.

as is the case with many latter-day RHCP songs, "Scar Tissue" would be much better received if Anthony Kiedis could actually sing

― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:37 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah there's a lot of nice guitar on this song but kiedis emoting makes me want to jump off a bridge

This is actually my favorite Sugar Ray song, but I had to vote Lit since that songs still gets people singing along when it comes on the radio (which is still pretty often).

god i cant believe that bush song was a #1

clem, i never realized you were the Radio On guy!

Between Woodstock 99 and Creed's "Higher" video (not to mention the underperformance of Midnite Vultures), I'd say this is the year alternative died

yep. I tend to think of radio generally between 1999-2001 as sounding exactly like this chart..

I liked "Scar Tissue" enough to buy the cassingle (one of my last) but, boy, did I burn out on that one.

these have been pure shit since the 97 poll

scar tissue actually just doesn't have a vocal melody at all, and the music and/or lyrics aren't exciting enough to carry it

this is the era when RHCP were writing lyrics that were even more off-putting than usual

how, out of curiosity, is fatboy slim's "praise you" modern rock in any form?

aside from the three i could have voted for, i like the rhcp and limp tracks fine, though they blend into medleys with similar singles in my head. everlast at least gets some tracy chapman points, and I have a strong memory of hearing "higher" for the first time and thinking "yes, this is evil but will be a huge fucking hit." The only songs here I think are truly worthless garbage are Bush and the Foos.

waht

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this was around the time i was actually listening to alt-rock radio as a kid and i remember 'otherside' getting way more play than 'scar tissue'. maybe that's in the 2000 list though?

this is the era when RHCP were writing lyrics that were even more off-putting than usual

― Snowqueen's Icedragon (crüt), Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:49 AM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark

i should push you up against the wall like a young kentucky girl in a push-up bra for saying that, you sarcastic mr. know-it-all!

this was around the time i was actually listening to alt-rock radio as a kid and i remember 'otherside' getting way more play than 'scar tissue'. maybe that's in the 2000 list though?

yes, where it was almost as huge

how, out of curiosity, is fatboy slim's "praise you" modern rock in any form?

popularized by spike jonze video, all "big in uk" aside from spice girls/boy-girl-bandery had to come in through the alt door in the 90s

I spent April 1999 on a road trip around California, which was a good time, and the Lit song reminds me of that holiday.

The two years after that I spent having my life unpleasantly rearranged by factors beyond my control, lunkheaded Bizkit/Blink tracks and their imitators clogged up the radio, and a couple of their fans wormed their way into my circle of friends and started dominating everything and pitting everyone against each other.

I don't think my opinion would be any different if I could filter out the extra-musical dimension to my vote, but there it is.

how, out of curiosity, is fatboy slim's "praise you" modern rock in any form?

Black people only allowed in via sample.

Around The World is decent uptempo RHCP but the midtempo reign of Scar Tissue/Otherside/Californication just made all those songs run together into total shit imo

that weird glossolalia in the last chorus of 'around the world' cracks me up every time

I don't even remember how "Otherside" goes

I remember snickers from friends and some rockcrits about Sugar Ray scoring an even bigger hit than their last and I thought, well, lol they defined and shaped this era -- why would they have bombed?

they just wanted to fly, man

well the thing about Sugar Ray is that "Fly" was completely unlike all their other songs up to that point, which is why the initial follow-up bombed and they were pre-emptively put in the 'one hit wonder' box. it's not surprising in retrospect that they were shrewd/depserate enough to turn that one-off into a formula but it wasn't a given at the time.

I still can't tell wtf Kiedis is singing in the chorus of "Scar Tissue"

"With bubba shed, it's the lonely view"???

Yes--Radio On's why I continue t live in the lap of luxury today.

I was late to the whole file-sharing explosion, but does that start to happen around this time too? That's the point at which...it's hard to explain, but as hard as it always was to keep up, that's the point when it became impossible for someone like me. The whole process just seemed to spiral off in a million directions. If you were young and on top of things, I'm sure you found ways to keep up. If you were older and taking a step back anyway, that made everything twice as confusing.

our newsroom didn't get Napster until Feb or March of 2000; that's when I jumped on board.

apparently it's "with the birds I'll share this lonely view" -- i always imagined it was something about bloodshed and being lonely without you

"lift up the shade, it's a lonely view" was my brain's vainglorious attempt to make something logical out of what i was hearing

RIP Bubba Shed

Bubba Shed would be a good Bowie-like alias for Kiedis's Californication-era silver bowl cut look

I thought "from what we shared it's a lonely view"

According to metrolyrics it's "sorry about One Hot Minute, here's Under The Soul To Squeeze Again"

Not voting. This list is horrid.

Bloody hell no

the only one of these songs that genuinely bums me out is "Learn To Fly," which is such a huge dropoff from the Colour And The Shape singles. the worst of the rest, especially "What It's Like," are just annoying.

I heard "All the" too much, went for "Every morn"

there are worse Creed songs but that doesn't make "Higher" something I ever want to hear

I can recall the chorus of "Higher" (with that tasty guitar lick) but when I try to think of the verse I just shift to "My Sacrifice"

These are all so bad! But the Blink song is prob the least bad.

I am so resentful that this is the music I got stuck with at age 11/12

Re: this list, yuck. No.

I am so resentful that this is the music I got stuck with at age 11/12

you could have just listened to Moby's Play on repeat like half the world did

out of the frying pan and into the starbucks

I didn't really like any of those either! I haaaated "South Side".

I mean in retrospect "Natural Blues" was/is pretty great though

My #1 in '99 was the Vengaboys' "We Like to Party!" Not modern, not rock--in fact, thoroughly ridiculous. I loved it.

I mean in retrospect "Natural Blues" was/is pretty great though

I totally ride for "Honey" and "Run On" too

I have to check but I think my #1 single was "Beautiful Stranger."

oh dude, come on

that's like me saying "my #1 single from 1997 was 'Wrong Number'"

the difference is that "Beautiful Stranger" is a good song.

lol, not in this universe

My #1 of '99 was "Deathly" by Aimee Mann. Pour me a venti latte please.

That was my #2, Alfred--would surely move up top today.

you guys are crazy IMO

Unable to hear "Beautiful Stranger" w/o seeing Austin Powers preening in that movie/video, unfortunately.

god i just looked at the 2000 one and if you think this is bad you're in for a treat

I bet. '99-2000 was a horrible nadir for rock radio.

Pazz and Jop: http://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/pnj/pjres99.php

"Beautiful Stranger" is easily top 10 Madonna singles

we'll know when he finally poll her

it's easily "top ten Madonna-Orbit collabs"

I remember talking to ppl immediately after that year's P&J results came out and most of us being all like "there's a new Moby record?". (Play didn't hit it big until 2000, iirc)

"Bodyrock" got college/modern rock play but, yeah, the album didn't take off until spring '00. In the summer and fall it went massive.

xp it is quintessential bubbly euphoric William Orbit production

dude it's easily top 3 Madonna-Orbit collabs

Abhorrent, but "Every Morning" is one I'll sing along to in the car, at least, so that.

I mean there's "Ray of Light" and maybe either of the orbit remixes of "Justify My Love" or "I'll Remember" and ????

I mean... "Holiday", "Borderline", "Material Girl", "Lucky Star", "Burning Up", "Dress You Up", "Into The Groove", "Live To Tell", "Papa Don't Preach", "Open Your Heart", oh look there are ten better Madonna singles and we haven't even gotten past 1986 yet

Her vocal stops me from loving it -- she was wobbly and didn't yet figure out how to put those post-opera lesson pipes to work.

"I FELL IN LOVE WITH A BEYUTIFOOL STRANGEHRRRRRR" is ugh

Madonna's early work is great and all but p overrated IMO

gtfo

1999 was:

"What's It Gonna Be"
"Music Sounds Better With You"
"No Scrubs"
"Give It To You"

lol massive but necessary thread derail

"Holiday" is a bore and most of the rest are OK and also lol at not even including "Crazy For You"

you mean "How's It Gonna Be," Eric?

I find it hard to dispute the fact that Madonna's peak was 1990-1999

"Genie in a Bottle," "No Scrubs," "Bills Bills Bills," "You Got Me," "Show Me The Meaning of Being Lonely" in my top ten. A banner pop year.

Sorry, forgot the "?!" part.

There have been parallel pop/R&B polls for this period, right?

Stevie D, even I think you overvalue early '90s junk pop-house a little much.

kinda stunned tbh

If you'd said Madonna's undeniable peak was 1989-1993, I would've been cool with that.

I find it hard to dispute the fact that Madonna's peak was 1990-1999

even starting from that premise, the idea that you can't find ten singles she released during that time period that aren't better than "Beautiful Stranger" is laughable (which btw: "Keep It Together", "Vogue", "Justify My Love", "Rescue Me", "Erotica", "Deeper And Deeper", "Fever", "Rain", "Secret", "Take A Bow" oh look there's ten)

"What's It Gonna Be!?" is Busta Rhymes/Janet Jackson in 1999, "How's It Gonna Be" is Third Eye Blind in 1997

my captain lorax memorial fav rock/alt singles of 1999 list:

Rage Against The Machine - "Guerrilla Radio"
KoRn - "Falling Away From Me"
Incubus - "Pardon Me"
Metallica - "Whiskey In The Jar"
Train - "Meet Virginia"
Limp Bizkit - "Rearranged"
Nine Inch Nails - "We're In This Together"
System Of A Down - "Sugar"
Garbage - "When I Grow Up"
Counting Crows - "Hanginaround"
Kid Rock - "Bawitdaba"
No Doubt - "New"
Sugar Ray - "Someday"
Blink 182 - "What's My Age Again?"
Lit - "Zip-Lock"
Kid Rock - "Cowboy"
Third Eye Blind - "Anything"
Jimmie's Chicken Shack - "Do Right"
The Goo Goo Dolls - "Black Balloon"
Ben Folds Five - "Army"
Staind - "Mudshovel"
Sammy Hagar - "Mas Tequila"
Lamb - "B-Line"
Lit - "My Own Worst Enemy"
Red Hot Chili Peppers - "Around The World"
Limp Bizkit - "Nookie"
Red Hot Chili Peppers - "Scar Tissue"
Our Lady Peace - "One Man Army"
Moby - "Honey"
Sleater-Kinney - "Get Up"
Pavement - "Spit On A Stranger"
Sugar Ray - "Falls Apart"
Chris Cornell - "Can't Change Me"
Fiona Apple - "Fast As You Can"
KoRn - "Freak On A Leash"

Nine Inch Nails - "We're In This Together"

this is a fucking monster song and one of my favorite NIN tracks period

Vogue, Justify, Erotica, Deeper, Fever, and Rain are all like easily top 15, sure, but idk I really *really* like "Beautiful Stranger"

NIN - "Into the Void" would've been on my list at the time.

yeah it's a shame that "We're In This Together" kinda tanked as a radio single, sounded so huge and anthemic to me

"What's It Gonna Be!?" is Busta Rhymes/Janet Jackson in 1999, "How's It Gonna Be" is Third Eye Blind in 1997

My bad -- I confused spring '99 with spring '98.

Actually I like TEB's "Never Let You Go" more than I did then.

The Busta song is rad.

I can't abide most of the pop stuff from that year either (Ok, loved "steal my sunshine" and eventually warmed to "believe" somewhat) but really the only thing I really liked abt 1999, in retrospect, was meeting my future husband.

I bet. '99-2000 was a horrible nadir for rock radio.

For some reason, this period always conjures up Tal Bachmann and Joshua Kadison in my brain. For that reason alone, I'm inclined to agree.

oh I forgot about Garbage's "Special." Good one.

Man, some dude, it says a lot about this period that the only song I like even a little bit from the first half of your list is by Sugar Ray.

"She's So High" was great! but that was a total pop/adult contempo thing, rock radio didn't touch it

Hah, I remember the first time I heard "Believe" in Dec. '98 (?) and thinking "man, it's too bad for Cher that there's no way she's going to have as big a hit with this as she deserves." And then ruefully remembering that first impression the second, third, fourth and five-hundredth time I heard it.

'99 was pretty much the year when almost every rap metal song i like was released

But I was almost completely off the radio/MTV teat at that point, so my judgment wrt anything along those lines probably isn't to be trusted.

Kadison was way earlier, no?

(I liked "She's so high" too)

Lamb - "B-Line"

oh I didn't see this on the list on the first scan-through, FUCKING WONDERFUL

The Goo Goo Dolls - "Black Balloon"

A little underrated, as unabashedly "Iris, Part 2" as it is.

in my top twenty:

Sleater-Kinney - "Get Up"
Pavement - "Spit On A Stranger"

"black ballon" is pretty gorgeous. Didn't even know it was a single.

Sure sign this was modern rock's nadir: It was also the era I probably came closest to listening to rock music with any regularity.

All I remember liking from '99-ish is Fiona Apple, Midnite Vultures, trip-hop-esque stuff like Lamb and Beth Orton, and a buttload of Elephant 6 stuff. Way way way into Remedy, but that was the absolute tail-end of '99, iirc.

Oh, The Hot Rock was good, too. Took me a long time to properly get into that Pavement record, though.

I was way way into Midnite Vultures, more than I needed to be, maybe because Prince hadn't released a good album in three years.

the saddest late 90s lols of all

I was way way into Midnite Vultures, more than I needed to be, maybe because Prince hadn't released a good album in three years.

OTM (except four years)

It's still a good record but I make allowances for the plastic funk stuff now and prefer the likes of "Beautiful Way" and "Milk and Honey."

It's honestly probably still my favorite Beck album. And the last one I really liked.

yeah it's a pretty "and now Napoleon Dynamite dances!" album

haha

Oh now you've done it.

man people still underrate Emancipation

Give it up. At least 90 minutes of that album flat out sucks.

^^

in any event it's hilarious to say "I was starved for anything that resembled Prince in the late '90s because it had been three whole years since Emancipation"

1998 had some occasional moments of quality on rock radio but this is dreadful... by now I was firmly in my too cool for school phase listening to Belle and Sebastian, Sunny Day Real Estate, Magnetic Fields, Stereolab, and whatever caught my eye on the Spin year-end lists.

almost voted for "All the Small Things" for being very 1999 yet not inspiring rabid hate unlike many of the other tracks, but "Learn to Fly" is by far the most listenable.

My #1 in '99 was the Vengaboys' "We Like to Party!" Not modern, not rock--in fact, thoroughly ridiculous. I loved it.

― clemenza, Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:45 AM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's OK. I fucking love that song.

This is Lit by a country mile. It's a tune and it's really fun to sing on Rock Band - just FYI. The rest of these are fucking awful.

Oh all the small things isn't awful but I'm still voting Lit.

Lit was my vote too. It's been kind of tarnished by cheap, easy needledrops in bad movies, but so have the Isley Brothers.

"All The Small Things" is totally awful, come on

guys stop misspelling the titleo f "All The Small Theengs"

hahaha

idk. I have a soft spot for most Blink singles.

'My Own Worst Enemy'... although, I'd rather not hear any of these again anytime soon.

It's not awful! It's . . . catchy?

Blink seems like a band that would be fun to hang out with for controlled amounts of time but I would consider jumping into traffic if they made me listen to too much of their music

the idea that you can't find ten singles she released during that time period that aren't better than "Beautiful Stranger" is laughable

It's not, DJP--not if you think it's as incredible as I do, and it did finish fourth in P&J that year. (Being John Fogerty's birthday yesterday, it's a perfect time to mention how CCR-like "Beautiful Stranger"'s musical track is.)

i'm okay with this list -- "learn to fly" is one of the best modern rock songs either, and i loved that lit song when i was 11 and heard it this weekend for some bizarre reason and still loved it! "every morning" and "all the small things" aren't nearly my favorite singles by either sugar ray or blink, but still pretty dope -- and hey, i like "scar tissue". i was in middle school once, too

1. learn to fly
2. my own worst enemy
3. every morning
4. all the small things
5. scar tissue

either = ever*

I just can't stand the vocals on My Own Worst Enemy. he sounds like he has a good voice but he is going all out Alanis with the weird vowel pronunciations.

Some notable, nearly-there #2 hits from 1999 include Fatboy Slim's "Praise You," Smash Mouth's "All Star," and Pearl Jam's "Last Kiss."

Close call.

also this list is waaaaaaay better than 98, and maybe even with 97

This list does make me crazy nostalgic, despite not having liked the songs at all then and not having warmed up to them since.

his syllable emphasis is also atrocious - cig-a-RETTE, SLEEPing WITH my CLOTHES on, CAME in THROUGH the WINdow. And that sleazy riff.

I was arguably happiest in my whole life so far in 1999.

This list does make me crazy nostalgic, despite not having liked the songs at all then and not having warmed up to them since.

LOL

"and i loved that lit song when i was 11"

brb, ending it all now

Some notable, nearly-there #2 hits from 1999 include Fatboy Slim's "Praise You," Smash Mouth's "All Star," and Pearl Jam's "Last Kiss."

These would have been my top 3 if they were in the poll, with "Last Kiss" taking it.

The chorus of All the Small Things is pretty huge, but the verses grate.

the problem for me with these songs is that they never went away. I heard them, especially the punky stuff, all through college. Horrible

If What's My Age Again had been on here, I might've voted for that.

these are all pretty terrible but i have a soft spot for every morning b/c there was an "undeclared" episode in which this girl drove her roommate bonkers by playing it constantly

"what's my age again" is one of the best songs

"What's My Age Again" and "I Miss You" are the only Blink songs that don't make me want to jump out of a window, and "I Miss You" still has that horrible "DON'T WASTE YOUR TOIME ON MEEE HEE HAW HEE HAW" part

I don't really like What's My Age Again. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I like "Adam's Song" a lot.

these are all pretty terrible but i have a soft spot for every morning b/c there was an "undeclared" episode in which this girl drove her roommate bonkers by playing it constantly

― dell (del), Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:00 PM (3 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha wasn't that OMC's "How Bizarre"? they do have kind of similar guitar riffs, now that i think of it. "How Bizarre" >>>>>>> "Every Morning" though

his syllable emphasis is also atrocious - cig-a-RETTE, SLEEPing WITH my CLOTHES on, CAME in THROUGH the WINdow.

yeah, as someone alluded to upthread, i think it's just that stephan jenkins school of vox.

"What's My Age Again" is good, kinda weirded me out that i totally didn't recognize the "Dammit" band when it first came out, though, even though those songs had the same lead singer

oh god this is worse than I remembered

YORAL READY THE VOICE INSIDE MYEAD

some dude that is funny b/c when i first watched the episode i assumed it was how bizarre.... but then for some reason i convinced myself tha it was in fact every morning

<3 Dammit.

all this time i thought Sugar Ray was trying to blatantly rewrite "Fly" when they were actually trying to blatantly rewrite "How Bizarre"!

I thought he was trying to blatantly rewrite "Are You Jimmy Ray."

Okay, didn't recognize the Lit song until I listened to it just now. I guess it would have to take this poll by default, but calling it the best anything of 1999 just underscores what a pathetic year for music this was. I really need to crack the archives and confirm that it wasn't all so terribly meh.

(t)he(y)

I really liked "M&Ms" and owned that CD...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZs88WWGDoo&ob=av2e

Also, had no recollection of Creed emerging from the depths of heaven this early.

haha

great 1999 albums (some of which I only got into retroactively):

Underworld - Beaucoup Fish
Basement Jaxx - Remedy
The Roots - Things Fall Apart
TLC - Fanmail
Moby - Play

creed had an album/song before that one that got some radio play too! "my own prison" iirc

Swap Moby for the Chems' album that year, and you've pretty much got my playlist.

God, I'm not going to get out of this day without making a Spotify playlist, am I?

I should retry Surrender but every time I've tried to listen to it, I've really really REALLY hated it aside from "Hey Boy Hey Girl" and "Out of Control"

god i can even summon up the chorus of that one in my head still

destroy me with bombs

Yes, most of these songs never went away. You could probably turn on any alternative radio station right now and here 4 of these back-to-back without a second thought.

you know I still love Surrender ("Out of Control" made my singles list).

"Surrender" is awesomely underrated. "Dream On," "Let Forever Be," "Music: Response" are all good. "Come With Us" also gets a bad rap... I don't think the Chems started to go downhill until "Galvanize" was on Budweiser commercials.

oh Come With Us is fantastic, probably their last truly great album IMO (although they've had great tracks since, with "Galvanize" being one of them)

LOL, "Learn to Fly" was only #1 for one week. Contrast to last year, when the Foos registered a #1 roughly half the year.

Okay, alternative albums from '99 that I'll rep for: Beta Band's 3 EPs (which, I guess, collects pre-'99 stuff, technically), Bonnie 'Prince' Billy's I See A Darkness, Cibo Matto's Stereotype A, Folk Implosion - One Part Lullaby, Fugazi - Instrument, that Handsome Boy Modeling School album, June of 44 - Anahata, Mr. Bungle's California, Jim O'Rourke - Eureka, Sam Prekop's first solo joint, Trux - Veterans Of disorder, Solex - Pick Up, Stereolab - Cobra and Phases..., US Maple's Talker...and the albums I mentioned before (including the correctly-recalled surfeit of E6 material). And Sneakster's Pseudo-Nouveau, but that's the album my friend did with Mark Clifford, so I might be biased about that one. Very little of that is even close to the style of the mainstream modern rock of the day, though, I guess.

"Rope" >>>>>>>>>>>> "Learn To Fly"

I played the first volume of that damn Magnetic Fields album all through Thanksgiving and New Year's.

oh shit, I'd forgotten about 3 EPs, I was all over that and HBMS and Mr Bungle

I don't know if I ever heard the entirety of Stereotype A because I hated the first song on it so much; no one listened to them for boring songs, we wanted more unhinged screaming about food.

dudes, Kleenex Girl Wonder's masterpiece PONYOAK was released in 1999, making it automatically a great year for music

Have not thought about Kleenex Girl Wonder in literally a decade til now.

yeah I still hate Stereotype A

I mean, compare it to "Apple" and "Beef Jerky" and it's basically "who are you and what did you do to the awesomely weird band that put out Viva! La Woman"

Stereotype A is no match for Viva!, but it's a grower and I like it a lot. And I've probably grown more fond of it over time. Changing the formula was probably a huge misstep for their popularity, though.

I didn't listen to Ponyoak much, but Kleenex Girl Wonder's Graham Smith Is The Coolest Person Alive is one of the unsung great albums of the '90s, comparable to GBV in their prime, imo.

yeah Stereotype was a huge falloff

er Stereotype A

Have not thought about Kleenex Girl Wonder in literally a decade til now.

Do yourself a favor and listen to "Tendency Right Foot Forward" again today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzK9B29cjPU

1999, I salute you.

SHUT UP AND EEEEEEAT
TOO BAD NO BON APPETIT
SHUT UP AND EEEEEEAT
YOU KNOW MY LOVE IS SWEET

extra sugar
extra salt
extra oil and MSG

this is one of the best albums in the world

I remain convinced that, if Graham Smith had named his band literally anything other than Kleenex Girl Wonder, he could've been huge. That name is a hell of a hurdle for most people to jump.

yeah that might top The Rock*A*Teens as one of the most self-sabotaging band names of the '90s

I'mma issue a "trust me" memo, imploring everyone who loved Viva! La Woman to give Stereotype A another chance, particularly if you haven't heard it since '99. And maybe just pretend it's a different band. Because it really only suffers in comparison but it's solid when taken on its own terms. Feel free to blast me afterwards if I'm wrong.

this is my story about All The Small Things

qd

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― Planned Perrintweet (some dude), Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:03 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

surprises let me know she cares

― markers, Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:06 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

x-post - That's amazing.

markers post vmic etc.

lol what was the rose petal pic in reference to? Just curious.

the first half of the couplet "surprises let me know she cares" is "she left me roses by the stairs"

Oh, duh.

I thought he just busted that out of nowhere. Still good though.

haha oh sorry -- we were talking about the song on this thread: Now That's What I Call A Music Poll! Vol. 40 (U.S.)

I don't really like What's My Age Again. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

yeah that's the one big blink hit i don't like. "turned on the tv during a bj, then called the girl's mom to say her husband's gay, ain't i a cute lil' bastard" with nothing special in the music.

listening to Surrender now, I think my biggest problem is that after the HUUUUUUUUGE drums of Exit Planet Dust and Dig Your Own Hole, most of the rhythm tracks just sound limp and tired

also I had forgotten what Bernard Sumner sounded like on the verses of "Out Of Control", lol

xp: I never actually paid attention to the lyrics of "What's My Age Again"

Neither have I. I just don't really like the tune.

xp: I never actually paid attention to the lyrics of "What's My Age Again"

― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:07 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

someone was quoting them to me recently with no inflection and i was like 'wait... what the hell is that'. id never listened to the lyrics

I guess I could give Surrender a fresh listen too, but I mostly remember really driving rhythm tracks and deep, pulsating bass. Maybe less of the SNARE GO BANG INSIDE YOUR HEAD than the previous stuff. Acceptable trade.

that's funny to me because it always seemed so lyric-driven to me. i kind of like the way the music starts off sounding like the most wistful coming-of-age mersh emo thing ever before becoming a bunch of dick jokes, for better or worse it's Blink in a nutshell.

Why did ppl only go as far back with these are 88/89? Is that when the modern rock lists began or something?

yeah Billboard only started published a Modern Rock chart in 1988 (and iirc didn't have any rock singles charts before 1981)

Booooo.

boo what? history?

ENBB's disappointed we can't go farther back.

^^

oh ok

lol boo history!

;)

wow I'd forgotten how TERRIBLE "Let Forever Be" is

maybe if someone has back issues of CMJ they can dig up 80s college rock charts

this is the most frustrating album; I think "Hey Boy Hey Girl" is one of the best tracks they ever did but everything else on Surrender just screams "mediocre time filler" to me

LFB's an instance of the video being so rad that it made me like the song

the Mercury Rev collab is still the only thing of MR's I've ever heard -- ick.

I like "Let Forever Be" and never thought it was terrible. First time I heard it was on the radio, not while watching the video..

I associate "Higher" "The Chemicals Between Us" and "Learn To Fly" with Live's "The Dolphin's Cry" Rage "Guerilla Radio" and NIN's "We're In This Together" because I remember a long drive I had and some radio station was doing a "new music weekend" because all these singles were released within a month of each other or something.

Also I recall most of these were huge on TRL.

LFB's an instance of the video being so rad that it made me like the song

OTMFM. I never really listened to the Chemical Brothers past those first two albums (no clue why that is, seeing as how I was into them enough to also buy all of those albums' attendant singles). So "Let Forever Be" and "Star Guitar" don't really exist as entities separate from their amazing Gondry videos in my world. That said, "how does it feel like" is certainly in the pantheon of Most Intensely Brain-Damaged Gallgher Bros. Lyrics Ever.

For me, that's Kylie's "Come Into My World."

"Come Into My World" is a super awesome song too... wtf

For me, that's every song ever with a Gondry video ("Come Into My World" is awesome, though!).

I guess my equivalent of that would be "Pumping On Your Stereo" although IIRC that was Hammer & Tongs, not Gondry.

Come to think of it 1999 was a REALLY good year for videos.

Oh, I also just want to point out while I'm thinking about it that '99 is not a total lost cause in pop terms why because The Writing's On The Wall.

I guess my equivalent of that would be "Pumping On Your Stereo" although IIRC that was Hammer & Tongs, not Gondry.

The point at which MTV started playing them less.

er, I meant to copy bilstevejim's post

xxpost

Which I got just no end of shit from rockist friends for owning and loving.

Coffee + TV & Windowlicker , rare cases where fav songs and videos of the year were the same.

My other problem with Surrender is that half the tricks on that album were done better on Dig Your Own Hole with "It Doesn't Matter"

Well, accepting there would never be another "It Doesn't Matter" was the first step toward accepting the next pair of albums.

Realizing I'd never be 18 again was the first and only step toward utterly rejecting everything after Come With Us.

In fall 1999 I won a promotion from my local alt-rock station during "new music weekend." The prize? 5 brand-new CDs...

Bush, "The Science of Things"
Foo Fighters, "
NIN, "The Fragile"
Live, "The Distance to Here"
And whatever 311 album came out in 1999

thank you for coming original

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWo-02Hsab4

man those guys are so sleazy.

It was pretty brave for Foo Fighters to name an album 'single quotation mark' that early in their career.

Now would be a good time to revisit the story about Scott Stapp wanting to fight 311.

This reminds me that I've been meaning to finally listen to The Fragile sometime. Can anyone advise as to whether this is a worthwhile endeavor to undertake for the first time in 2012?

I dug it a lot in '99.

The album was so memorable I started to write it out, went to look it up, forgot, and pressed enter.

75% of The Fragile is fantastic, particularly disc 1/disc "left"

the 3rd and 4th foo fighters albums are so memorable that i can never remember which one is called "this is nothing left to lose" but apparently it was the 3rd one from '99

"THERE is nothing left to lose" i meant...the funny thing is they initially announced the album as just "nothing left to lose" and then made a big deal of adding the first two words, similar to how the kanye album was originally just "dark twisted fantasy"

The Fragile topped SPIN's list that year.

But don't hold that against it.

fuuuck i heard come original in the car yesterday that song is not cool

(Misremembered '99 as the year they listed "your hard drive" as the album of the year. It was the next year in a move to avoid crowning Kid A, lol.)

But don't hold that against it.

Byron couldn't have said it more graciously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdVRaDJth4s

Disc one has a few worthwhile moments. I like "Just Like You Imagined," "La Mer," and "The Great Below."

fuuuck i heard come original in the car yesterday that song is not cool

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:30 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

cracking up so hard at the understatement of "that song is not cool"

ALL ENTERTAINER COME ORIGINAL

soundbwoy nick hexum will never not be funny

The Fragile topped SPIN's list that year.

But don't hold that against it.

Ha. Yeah, I remember that but I didn't know how trustworthy an accolade it was. SPIN had a total chub on for Trent back then, and I'm pretty sure I remember him making it on to two consecutive 'Artists Who Matter, Maaaan' lists during a two-year stretch during which his only piece of new music was "The Perfect Drug".

during during...oh, Droid text entry box...

to be fair few artists have ever been as popular while releasing as little music as possible as NIN circa 95-98, the members of Filter and Stabbing Westward and Fighting Gravity all got to buy houses because there was such an underserved demand for NIN

Knee-jerkiness aside, Spin's 99 list of albums was pretty shockingly close to my own that year.

I play the Everything But the Girl album more than the others that made my list tbh

Geez, there are so many modern-rock threads up top today...it's overwhelming, I just don't know where to channel all my modern-rock love.

xxpost

Is there a way to see those old lists that doesn't involve me digging through dozens of boxes and stupidly unmarked boxes?

http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/spinend.htm

Okay, I give up trying to appear at all literate while typing on a phone.

http://books.google.com/books?id=f_2Hb3bIqaQC&printsec=frontcover&rview=1&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

fuuuck i heard come original in the car yesterday that song is not cool

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:30 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol I don't know why but this cracked me up

Thanks, Dan!

One of my closest friends in HS who I sort of idolized for a while was REALLY into 311 and even I was like dude, these guys are NOT GOOD.

at the time I thought the Fragile was disappointing and a total bore - that said I was listening to all sorts of whiny rock emo so maybe my downer music tastes shifted from industrial to more traditionally rock and straightforward. but on a quick spotify listen it seems like there just aren't that many good songs...

there are probably some hooks in there but they are buried in a bunch of atmospheric stuff that I have never really had the patience to sit through.

I think the first disc is nothing but hooks tbh

I mean, "We're In This Together" is basically one long extended hook

Oh jeez, "Your Hard Drive". Forgot abt that.

Remember, also, when Time's Person of the Year was "You" and the cover was a mirror?

remember when skrillex was oh nevermind

Oh, you know what's a pretty decent and underrated '99 (somewhat alt) single? That New Radicals track.

Oh yeah, I always thought their singles lists were really good. Totally forgot about that.

I HATE THAT SONG

xxxpost Hardcore lols.

the words "New Radicals" and "underrated" do not belong in the sentence, especially on ilx

I HATE THAT GUY AND HIS ASS FACE TOO

x-post - Seriously. People love that group/song/dude iirc.

OVERRATED more like it

I haven't mentioned New Radicals cuz it's a '98 single despite breaking in '99.

That whole NR album had quite a few gems on it.

I HATE THAT GUY AND HIS ASS FACE TOO

this is poetry

OK I don't actually hate it quite that much but I never really got why people think it was so great.

nooooo new radicals

"Someday We'll Know"!

someday i'm going to get the World Party critical reevaluation jumpstarted by re-labelling one of their records as "the last New Radicals album"

er "the lost New Radicals album"

I'm probably cool with the New Radicals song because I seriously don't think I ever heard it until maybe six or seven years ago and had no idea what the dude looked like until I Googled them just now.

World Party fans are besotted with a different kind of voice and assclown hat.

There are 5 or 6 good songs on that New Radicals album. They were one of those bands that some alt-rock stations played to death, and didn't make it on the playlist for others.

I liked World Party once but since learning dude wrote "She's the One" for Robbie Williams I don't think I can ever forgive him

fun fact: Wikipedia says he was "musical director for the 1994 film, Reality Bites"

lol "i want you to really access what gordon gano was feeling when he wrote those words, ethan"

oh right -- he wrote the abysmal "Young Americans" clone.

?

he means the World Party song on the Reality Bites soundtrack, "When You Come Back To Me," which really does sound kinda like "Young Americans"

Oh, yeah it does. I'm not going to pretend for a second that I didn't have that sndtrk and memorize p much every song on it including Mr. Hawke's own particularly amazing "I'm Nuthin'". I was like 15 though so it's OK. Sort of.

And by amazing I mean amazingly bad obviously.

I'm an ultra modern version of the American ma-aan. I don't feel good but I don't feel ba-aad. Cause me, you see, I'm nuthin'.

enbb otm about new radicals

oof, this list

that too

there's nothing worth voting for here. every vote means only that someone got it wrong.

every song on the list is truly horrible.

wonder who had it worse in the mid-late 90s chartwise UK or USA?

nu metal vs dadrock. depressing

My dad's rock was better than yours.

wonder who had it worse in the mid-late 90s chartwise UK or USA?

― it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:24 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

depends if you mean purely the pop charts or any charting singles imo -- capital p Pop music was probably at its all-time worst in the US in the mid-'90s, while lots of exciting stuff was happening in rock, rap, etc. that was underrepresented on the Hot 100

xp well there's always the British take on those peppy American mall-punk/nu-metal sounds of the time (A? Feeder?)

'99 was a pretty good year for me musically, but not on the evidence of any charts on either side of the Atlantic

god there are a lot of posts itt

this is the start of me getting crazy nostalgic, i'm totally biased in favor of 99-01 modern rock because adolescence

'scar tissue' one of my favorite songs when i was 12, def remember writing it on the crumbled piece of looseleaf paper where i wrote my favorite songs

lol

Blink over Sugar Ray and Foos.

(A? Feeder?)

ugh why did you have to remind me of their britrock kerrang friendly existence!

now i hope you cant get symposium and reef out of your head tonight!

depends if you mean purely the pop charts or any charting singles imo -- capital p Pop music was probably at its all-time worst in the US in the mid-'90s, while lots of exciting stuff was happening in rock, rap, etc. that was underrepresented on the Hot 100

― some dude, Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:28 PM Bookmark

chart r&b during that era >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

yessss

None of these songs are "good" but the best ones are "ok," although it seems like I may be alone in thinking "Learn To Fly" is "ok." I have vivid good-times memories attached with pretty much all of them, except maybe "The Chemicals Between Us" which is clearly the worst song listed here and I've never met anyone who liked it.

Everyone was like "zomg Freak On A Leash video soooo good he says 'GO' and the bullet changes direction and almost hits a fat kid jumping into a pool" and it was actually the lamest video ever.

yeah I can't remember what Bush's audience WAS in 1999.

my sister was a massive fan of its predecessors (and remix album) and bought this one but to my knowledge she never played it more than twice.

This answers my own question.

xpost

40-year-old dudes with frosted tips, iirc.

looooool

BT was a fan?

oh god, the frosted tips plague was something i'd managed to completely forget about

voted for Creed, the most important band of their generation

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

That Lit song is so much fun to karaoke.

please tell me why

x-post - It is! See my earlier Rock Band comment. It's really fun.

These polls have made me remember strongly why I thought I was growing up in the worst decade, as a teen in the late '90s.

"Please tell me whyyyyyyyyyyy-eyyyyyyy!"

I feel the pain of alla y'all who were apparently born just a handful of years after me. You definitely got the shitty end of the modern rock stick.

Luckily, almost every other type of music was steering well clear of nadir territory right about then.

because the only modern rock songs that existed in the 90s were the songs that hit #1

I was 18 at the time and into about half of this stuff, although right around the corner is my discovery of indie rock and virulent rejection of the singles I had once embraced. The fact that rock radio went whole hog for nu-metal was just the seal on the coffin. This actually isn't the most objectionable list of songs...I think much shittier stuff was getting a lot of airplay this year, with a general drift into down-tuned dreary drags and distortion a la Staind, or even things like the Chris Cornell single

I have low hopes for the 2000 list though.

Everlast, "What It's Like" - easily the worst thing here, and inescapable too. IIRC the followup single was the same moronic Life Lessons wheezed over acoustic crap
Sugar Ray, "Every Morning" - pretty good. Not as good as "Fly" or "When It's Over" - chorus a little too sing-songy but still well-done.
Lit, "My Own Worst Enemy" - I like this - a little too glossy maybe but beats the nu-metal wave. Catchy! I like singing along with his weird intonations and I think I've praised the guitar sound on ILX somewhere before.
Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Scar Tissue" - very pretty. I bought the CD single. A friend of mine thought he was singing something about the Burgess Shale, which still cracks me up.
Creed, "Higher" - horrible, maybe almost as bad as Everlast, and not even as earwormy as "My Own Prison."
Bush, "The Chemicals Between Us" - dumb, but not terrible. I really don't remember this getting the same kind of airplay as these others.
Foo Fighters, "Learn to Fly" - not a patch on the previous batch of singles and in hindsight, perfectly foresages their plunge into being a latter-day meat n potatoes rock band. At the time I liked this a lot though and gave the album a lot of spins.
Limp Bizkit, "Re-Arranged" - boring, dreary, I will take their uptempo shithead workouts over this kind of thing any day
Blink 182, "All the Small Things" - great single - killer chorus, singalong, lyrics are memorable though largely not worth it.

Voting Blink just over Lit and RHCP. Favorite things mentioned upthread: She's So High, What's It Gonna Be?!, Beautiful Stranger, Hanginaround, You Get What You Give, What's My Age Again, Fast As You Can, Army, Into the Void, Whiskey in the Jar, and yeah, Cowboy.

God, Meet Virginia was awful though!

Oh, and I also feel "The Dolphin's Cry" deserves a shoutout for tuneless, inflated badness.

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^^ ILX's #1 Train fan irrc.

hey, soul sister

lol

Can you imagine no love, pride, deep-fried chicken
Your some dude, always stickin'... up for you?

I am currently listening to Train's cover of "Umbrella" and it is surprisingly, shockingly good

are you suggesting that Rihanna cover "Hey Soul Sister"

I am now!

Everlast, "What It's Like" - i'm sorry y'all but this was a great song
Sugar Ray, "Every Morning" - this is ok but my choice sugar ray song is "someday" by a mile
Lit, "My Own Worst Enemy" - really great. voted this.
Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Scar Tissue" - liked this too. actually i rather liked all three of the big singles from this album, though the album itself was too dull for me to get through
Creed, "Higher" - um. well. sometimes i like to be all contrarian and defend "with arms wide open" but i don't think i can do that for this song
Bush, "The Chemicals Between Us" - had to youtube to even remember this one
Foo Fighters, "Learn to Fly" - this is good
Limp Bizkit, "Re-Arranged" - i like this. and actually basically all the singles from this album.
Blink 182, "All the Small Things" - also lovely

after reading thru this whole thread i am actually beginning to think 1999 may have been an unusually good year for mainstream music in general... or maybe i just feel that way b/c it was 'a happy time 4 me'

i always forget about goo goo dolls' "black balloon". great song, really beautiful.

I do love me some "Break Stuff."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

it's just one of those days

I only had the Limp Bizkit album. I must have bought it right before discovering Radiohead, elitism.

meh I'm done with 'Break Stuff' or 'Nookie', but 'Re-Arranged' and 'N 2 Together Now' ain't bad

but I voted 'Scar Tissue'--I like the first two singles from Californication (though the title track is awful imo). Also thought 'Learn to Fly' was the next to last good Foo single (before 'Times Like These' which reminds me a little of QOTSA)

I fuck with upbeat Limp Bizkit jams. If nothing else, they were a good party band.

"Californication" really is the worst, the rhyme scheme is like Cajun Man: The Song

rev otm

"Break Stuff" had the most swearing I had heard in a song up to that point (maybe after Offspring's "Bad Habit").

"Next in line to get fucked up -- Your best bet is to stay away motherfucker!"

ugh my old roommate and his brofriends would scream along to my own worst enemy while doing shots before the club

i'm seriously reduced to deciding between Higher and Scar Tissue

wait no i'm not i thought Higher was something else

she's so hiiiiiiiiiiiigher, higher above me, she's so lovely

is what it should be

i think i used to get angry whenever everlast came on

and then i had to sit through him at an hfsmas holiday nutcracker, those minutes took their damn time ticking by

Creed is "Higher," Tal Bachman is "She's So High"

or maybe you realized that, i'm confused. but yes, Everlast is the fucking worst.

everclear was alright tho

yeah they had some decent tunes

...and Blur is the infinitely better "She's So High."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W05cPXpUHGI

god this just brings me back to my middle school days. God i miss being young when all the music was so great. i feel sorry for my little brother and sister who has to grow up listening to lady gaga and shit like that on the radio
downthefaith 1 year ago 137

my middles schools days werent so bad there was pop but it was pop you could stand like lil john and stuff that had some talent and green day and the used and my chemical romance reggie and the full effect and when kanye wasnt a gay fish
robozombisaur in reply to downthefaith 1 year ago

Really? your really saying this shit? im glad you think lil john, greenday, Kanye and my chemical romance has talent but if you didnt grow up in the 90's you just wouldnt and couldnt understand the power of growing up with, Everclear, everlast, outkast, pealjam, alice in chains, stone temple pilots, oasis, crash test dummies, live ect... i can go on for DAYSSSS. Having said that i DO NOT!!! retract my statement i feel sorry for kids now a days and their musical backgrounds.
downthefaith in reply to robozombisaur 1 year ago 3

greenday was good wtf man? they basicly invented punk rock man they where one of the best band of the 90s my favs are 1 everclear 2 sublime 3 nirvana 4 stone sour 5 godsmack 6 creed 7 incubus 8 staind 9 rage against the machine 10 smashing pumpkins i know you posted this a year ago but what the hell just telling ya my opinon :)
peanutbutterjelly920 in reply to downthefaith 2 weeks ago

Yeah, you're funny....and pathetic.
Mohniie in reply to peanutbutterjelly920 1 week ago

coming from a girl who looks like shes been exposed to high levels of radiation
jeezus gtfo and get a taste in music
peanutbutterjelly920 in reply to Mohniie 1 week ago

this is coming from someone who likes stone sour, godsmack, creed, and staind i think you need a taste in music or better yet stop listening to it
Untamed7o2 in reply to peanutbutterjelly920 6 days ago

love youtube

"She's So High" IMO is badness on par with "Hey Leonardo (She Likes Me For Me)" and Shawn Mullins "Lullabye" .. and not too far from Offspring "Why Don't You Get A Job."

Still can't quite grasp that Tal Bachmann's ticket to showbiz was being Randy Bachmann's kid, and like to imagine that going for squeaky-clean, sensitive power-pop was his form of teenage rebellion. THIS'LL SHOW YOU, DAD!

hah i had no idea about that

"She's So High" is wayyyyy better than "Hey Leonardo," although I do associate the two. Also in the mix somewhere is Defend The Indefensible: "Absolutely (Story of A Girl)" by Nine Days (#6 on the hot 100, though some fan has edited Wiki to suggest they made #1)

Bachman is the son of Canadian rocker Randy Bachman, of The Guess Who and Bachman–Turner Overdrive, and Lorayne Stevenson. He is also the nephew of Robbie, Gary and Tim Bachman.

He is a former member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and went on an unpaid two year mission to Argentina. While a member of the church, he served in various positions, including Elder's Quorum president, Adult Sunday School teacher, and counselor in a bishopric. After two years of research into the church's origins, Bachman concluded that the church's founder Joseph Smith had invented his stories, and severed his ties to the church. Commenting on contradictions in the church's doctrines and problems with its history, he has since stated that "the only way Mormonism makes any kind of sense is when it is assumed to be a very man-made fraud."[2]

As the holder of a bachelor's degree in political science, Bachman has moonlighted as a political commentator. These efforts include appearing as a special guest on Toronto's Bill Carroll radio show the day after the 2004 U.S. presidential election to discuss George W. Bush's victory, as well as serving with political publisher Ezra Levant as a guest panelist for Global TV's live coverage of the 2006 Canadian federal election. He has also contributed as an editorialist for the Canadian newspaper The National Post. and has recently begun to write articles for various magazines, including The Equestrian News.[3]

Bachman is an avid rugby player, and currently plays right-wing and outside-centre for the Victoria, BC rugby club "The Castaway Wanderers". [4]

Other appearances include on the CBC television show Mary Walsh: Open Book to discuss the autobiography of Gabriel Garcia Marquez with Canadian novelists Jane Urquhart and M. G. Vassanji, his appearance on the Pamela Wallin show to discuss growing up with a famous father, and a guest appearance on the television show Melrose Place.

^^^ only one of these things is something i actually would have expected about Tal Bachman just based on the song

i always thought tal bachmann was the name of the band

bachman

seriously loving the idea of a TV producer trying to fill out the couch for a talk show about Gabriel Garcia Marquez, and somehow going - "hey! Wait! I have Tal Bachman's number - problem solved!"

Tal Bachman Or Astro-Bachman

Marquez & Garcia: Bach-Man Fever

Switched-On Bachman

I kinda love Blur's "She's So High" which someone mentioned like 20 posts ago.

If Offspring had changed the lyrics to "Why Don't You Kill Yourself" and kept everything else exactly the same I might like it better.

otm

same goes for "ob-la-di" actually

why don't you kill yourself, life goes on, brah!

Add to the cheeserock list: Dog's Eye View's "Everything Falls Apart," Uncle Kracker's "Follow Me" and Citizen King's "Better Days."

I'm pretty sure 1999 is the year I permanently dialed in the car radio to NPR. Now I know why. Thank god the iPod was only two years away.

Let's see, what else can we piss on...

I was never actually sure if Bloodhound Gang's "The Bad Touch" was making fun of Depeche Mode or not. It does kinda sound like a sped-up "Enjoy The Silence."

"Everything Falls Apart" was way earlier, like '96

incidentally my main association with Dog's Eye View is iirc a report in Rolling Stone about how MTV was losing its tastemaker status, supported by the factoid that Dog's Eye View was the only then-recent buzz clip that wasn't a radio hit well before the video was spotlighted, or something like that.

Dog's Eye View sounds like Counting Crows to me.. and not "produced-sounding" enough to be a hit circa-1999, which is probably why Vertical Horizon did so well with their 2 hits.

"The Bad Touch" is pretty great as far as Pastiche Mode goes - the jokes are dumb but it's really fun to dance to etc. Love the synths.

Dumb but kinda funny :)

i am curious about the evolution of studio technology, like exactly when Pro Tools really took over on major label rock records and everything became pretty rigidly click tracked and quantized. there were still a lot of relatively loose, live-sounding big alt-rock records in the mid-'90s but by 2000 things had begun sounding more streamlined across the board.

btw, Rev's top 100 production tricks of the 90s needs some level - - wish I could better articulate the "produced-sounding"ness of Veritcal Horizon although I TOTALLY know what billstevejim means.

Also: Stroke-9 "Little Black Backpack" (not very good) and Bicycle, "Electrolux" (still love this, cf: The band: Bicycle. The album: Bicycle.)

"The Bad Touch," "One Week," "A Change Will Do You Good" -- any other '90s songs with "X-Files" references??

I f'ing love Little Black Backpack. lol

also ugh, Angie Aparo's "Spaceship"

how does your x-files list not have "Mulder & Scully"!?

Catatonia's "Mulder And Scully" was obviously more of a UK hit but iirc it was on 120 Minutes a couple times

ha xpost

Listening to Stroke 9 is, in turn, reminding me of that "I'm going out for a while / so I can get high with my friends" song.

Eve 6 is an x-files reference.

...although, actually listening to that song ("High" by Feeder) it's wayyy closer to a Pumpkins kind of vibe, cross-bred with a more raspy, Cobain-y kind of vocalist. It's a lot more "live" sounding than these other tracks - and, unsurprisingly, it's actually from back in 1997, so clearly my memory is failing me.

xp Also I remember some lame country song "David Duchovny, why dont you love me"

"High" was spring '98, and yes on the Pumpkins-vibe.. the "I will" part I'm pretty sure is note-for-note and lyrically identical to the "I will" part in "Mayonaise."

high + closing time always go together for me for some reason

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wijp4-3giNw

The Natalie Merchant impressions are out there.

ha Bree Sharp's "David Duchovny" would make a great flipside to Local H's "Eddie Vedder"

Love that one -

Okay, I understand
But I don't wanna be your friend
I don't need another friend
Got too many friends.

Half of these songs I associate with the atmosphere of MTV's "spring break on Cancun" concerts ,E's "Wild On," The American Pie films. It seemed like party songs dominated that year because of Y2K and people wanting to show Clinton a good time before he left office. Or it could've been the fact i was still in middle school.

Punching my ballot for Mark McGrath and the boys.

Goddamn it, where can I find some Wild On episodes?

can your computer handle kazaa lite?

brooke burke is hosting dancing with the stars i think

literally the only thing i remember about that show

By 2000-2001 mook/frat culture had gotten into some dark stuff. Sort of feel like that first Linkin Park album was like the Altamont of the mook culture.. Signaled the end of a dream.

So little vintage E! programming on YouTube. :(

Sort of feel like that first Linkin Park album was like the Altamont of the mook culture.. Signaled the end of a dream.

Isn't this what Woodstock '99 was supposed to have done though? Let's get our mythology straight!

ha yeah i was gonna say

it would be pretty fuckin wimpy if Chester Bennington singing "In The End" in front of a green screen was the gen y Altamont

and yet, pretty fuckin appropriate

I forgot about Woodstock '99. This year was pretty raped-at-a-party-focused now that we look back.

"this year"

Toad the Wed Sprocket's "Hold Her Down" has a lot to answer for.

The best thing Mark McGrath ever did was hosting that vh1 "100 Most Shocking Moments in Rock and Roll" series. He's normally a chill/fun dude but I loved how solemn he was in describing the time David Bowie dabbled in fascism. That kind of show gives "rockism" and the pop music canon a good name.

"dabbled"

Listening to "Black Balloon" for the first time since it was a hit - - it's sounding pretty good! I will say that when it hits the chorus though, it sounds like the generic Vertical Horizon sound that we were talking about a minute ago. Dunno if those bands or their labels were really swinging for an "Iris" but I wonder. It compares interestingly with the whole "positive vibes" genre from a decade earlier, although I like that stuff a lot more.

BTW - - who decides what ends up on "Modern Rock"? Or is it just based on what stations report they're playing? I ask because of things like "Smooth," a team-up between a classic rock guitarist and the vocalist from a band with 2-3 HUGE Modern Rock chart hits on their last album (including one #1) and it apparently it didn't make it, according to Wiki? I mean, it was a GIGANTIC song in '99, but I can't remember now whether I heard it on the modern rock station or not.

I heard Black Balloon for the first time ever at a Shell station the other day. It was on the in-store play and I was like "what is this soft rock heroin ballad?"

also speaking of rob thomas i suspect matchbox 20 are the real architects of Vertical Horizon-ism, nevermind

It speaks to what the definition of "modern rock" had deteriorated to by 1999 that something totally middle-of-the-road AOR like Creed would be considered for contention.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

xp

or I guess just what the parameters of it had changed to encompass, b/c there is plenty of 'middle-of-the-road AOR' I would gladly take (by FAR) over anything listed listed here.

It speaks to what the definition of "modern rock" had deteriorated to by 1999 that something totally middle-of-the-road AOR like Creed would be considered for contention.

plenty of MOR in 1989-1991 charts though

lol

why did any of these songs get a vote?

Bush, "The Chemicals Between Us" 0

^^^ presumably only due to absence of Cranberries

I voted for the chili peppers because I vaguely remember being very, very wasted and singing along even though I don't know the words. I believe during the chorus I sang, "When birds go shit it's a lonely poo," or something along those lines. Ah, the 90s.

BTW - - who decides what ends up on "Modern Rock"? Or is it just based on what stations report they're playing? I ask because of things like "Smooth," a team-up between a classic rock guitarist and the vocalist from a band with 2-3 HUGE Modern Rock chart hits on their last album (including one #1) and it apparently it didn't make it, according to Wiki? I mean, it was a GIGANTIC song in '99, but I can't remember now whether I heard it on the modern rock station or not.

― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:25 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

yeah, it's based on what is played by stations that self-identify as being in the alternative/modern rock format. a LOT of stuff in the late '90s/early '00s from the softer end of alt rock radio would cross over to pop radio and then gradually became a total adult contemporary thing and rock radio would abandon them...Matchbox 20, Lifehouse, All-American Rejects. "Hanging By A Moment" and "Push" were #1 modern rock songs but those stations rarely if ever play those songs now. same goes for Alanis songs besides "You Oughta Know."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIOFdIPL7DU

Right now that's way funnier than it should be to me. omg.

it's a wolfpupy video

oh wait it says that at the beginning

*favorited*

\(^o^)/

okay lol

I assume you guys played the jingle catsesque "Crawling In My Skin"

wolfpupy made one of those for "last resort"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDWVDX98p5I

http://bit.ly/L0WVGb

phew, so glad i am not the only one who likes the everlast song (unless those 5 ppl were joking which seems possible)

We went to a small local county fair last year and the musical entertainment was Everlast. Just in case, you know, anyone was wondering what he's up to these days.

You could say his career is... permanent.

On-going, if you will.

it is my most fervent hope that he is ending his sets these days with a thoughtful acoustic guitar version of "Jump Around"

i'm sure he distances that from his, like, art, man

iirc he always did "Jump Around" the usual way in his concerts even when "What It's Like" was his big hit

I want to add Tonic to the list of bands orphaned by shifts in radio format. "If You Could Only See" still does fine (it got to #11 on the Hot 100) but their other Mainstream Rock hits ("Open Up Your Eyes," #2, "You Wanted More," #3) are completely MIA. Also regrettable that "Mean To Me" didn't chart at all and sank like a stone - but by 2000 maybe there wasn't a station programmed to give that a decent push? It's not a lost classic or anything but it's pretty good, nice riff.

xp Wouldn't it make more sense marketing-wise for Everlast to bill himself as House Of Pain and just get some DJ's and play 3 or 4 Everlast songs throughout his set? this makes way more sense to me than the opposite

IMO way more party people would be interested in seeing House Of Pain than Everlast

iirc he's been performing with house of pain in recent years?

if you're wondering why this thread's quieted down it's because we're all trying to track down those Wild On! torrents