Silver Jews: Classic or dud

awwwww. :(

i hate my father
i hate my father
hate my father
On disowning my father

not to get all grand proclamation but this is a loss to song in general - his are/were great, and if he's really not going to write any more of them, the craft is diminished somewhat. the available supply of awesome drops.

I am bummed out. I look up to this guy, he sets a standard of writing one can aspire to.

yeah def a top 5 alive lyricist for me

:(

Yeah, this is sad, if true ... Not a whole bunch of songwriters his age or younger out there who so obviously put a lot of care into their lyrics (J0hn D. being a notable exception). Might be a lofty thing to say, but he's up there in the tradition of Dylan, Cohen, etc. Didn't think his last couple albums were his best work, but I had the feeling he still had a classic or two left in him.

Berman's dad is the guy behind all those front groups you see represented as the voice of reason on Penn and Teller's show Bullshit!

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Penn_and_Teller:_Bullshit!

"In 1984 I was hospitalized for approaching perfection/Slowly screwing my way across Europe they had to make a correction" has to be one of my favorite opening couplets ever. Shucks.

^ seriously.

"Boy wants a car from his Dad
Dad says, first you gotta cut that hair.
Boy says, "hey Dad Jesus had long hair"
and Dad says
that's right son, Jesus walked everywhere."

from "the frontier index" (I think) was the first Silver Jews track I heard and that's still one of my favouritest lyrics.

this rainy weekend seems like a perfect time for the natural bridge.

Had a feeling this was coming. I'm glad you've made a decision you're happy with DCB. Hope you get to punch your dad in the face some day.

When I saw his note I wanted to say - the joy that his music and writing have brought me outweighs any harm his father may have caused me. Because it's true, though I suppose in the scheme of things I'm probably a special case. I haven't had a minimum wage job since before 1997. All you can hope for is that he finds some peace and happiness in whatever he does next I guess.

his father harmed you?

maybe try reading the post?

uh

or just the thread in general?

i think im coming off as a dick here so i apologize, but i must have missed something

no, you're not coming off as a dick, but it's just that there are links here to things about Berman's dad being a douche lobbyist behind fronts that oppose union rights, minimum wage laws, obesity awareness etc. so dude is saying that David has had more of a positive impact than his douchey dad's possible impact. There's not much more to get there?

more of a positive impact to him.

doink. thx

dcb should join the family business.. and then destroy it from the inside.

(glib revenge fantasies aside, i wish him the best)

So, do any of y'all have tickets to this thing in McMinnville, TN?

My friend Rachel's going. I expect she'll be taking pictures.

This really makes me hate myself for not going to see him when he was in the area.

I was trying to fenagle an extra ticket for a friend and it's like...tickets just don't exist.

I mean it makes sense, why would someone sell one?

silver jews in a cave last show make an offer

!

http://i44.tinypic.com/25yujph.jpg

Chandelier in a cave? whoa.

ummmm?

that looks cool, fuck

yeah that looks intense. that's the way all concerts should look.

did malkmus show up for "wild kindness" or anything?

Dude from American Songwriter magazine (who posted the pic) said this on twitter: "Just saw Silver Jews' final show in a deep cave. in crowd: Dan Deacon and Animal Collective fellows, Bradford Cox, S. Malkmus, B. Bare Jr."

"uh huh, i was at the final show. the audience was amazing"

Yeah, that is weird now that I think about it. : /

i bet it was super, but they're kind of a weird band to see live i think. what you get from the records isn't at all present from hearing it live. they have that great velvetsy guitar player but it sounds kinda heavy and thick. the dynamics should be like a james brown strings song or something, with his voice big and booming.

i mean whatever about the crowd. i was just wondering if malkmus jammed with berman one last time. some of both their finest moments are on american water

berman's, definitely

Tanglewood Numbers is actually my favorite Joos record, but I'm way in the minority there.

sleep on your back
and ash in your shoe

http://www.knoxkoupons.com/ktown_photos/photo_gallery/images/RockCity-1.jpg

tanglewood demos > tanglewood. less pounding and intense, more a guitar sound.

tanglewood demos

Are these easy for anyone to find?

first google result yields links

lol indeed it does, thanks